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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Nov 20, 2012 20:51:43 GMT -5
I do, but I'm not society. I'm just one dude.
You yourself said in the thread on P&M yesterday that you would only vote for a female president if she was attractive. You got indignant when people said that was shallow and defended your right to base your vote on looks. Now, you're in here saying that looks don't matter in our society. Pick a side lady.
That's true. It's still a little sad to see so few fans for the sport our high school is by far the best at. There is no state championship for a lot of sports in California, softball being one. We're a huge state though so sectionals are very competitive. Winning sectionals in those sports is the closest equivalent to a state title. The girls softball team does it and there's a little blurb on the local sports section of the newspaper. If one of the male teams, any team, had 7 straight sectional titles they'd get a friggin parade down main street.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 20:56:59 GMT -5
I do, but I'm not society. I'm just one dude. You yourself said in the thread on P&M yesterday that you would only vote for a female president if she was attractive. You got indignant when people said that was shallow and defended your right to base your vote on looks. Now, you're in here saying that looks don't matter in our society. Pick a side lady.
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Post by midjd on Nov 20, 2012 21:05:22 GMT -5
So what did "Elena Kagan, uh, no thanks, LOL!" mean?
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Nov 20, 2012 21:17:15 GMT -5
You're really going to make me go dig up the posts? Have it your way. Megan Kelly on Fox is gorgeous and brilliant. I nominate her! Megan Kelly on Fox is gorgeous and brilliant. I nominate her! --------------- What does gorgeous have to do with anything? Megan Kelly on Fox is gorgeous and brilliant. I nominate her! --------------- What does gorgeous have to do with anything? Ain't nobody voting for Fugly. Sorry. Ain't nobody voting for Fugly. Sorry. Right. Golda Meir and Margaret Thatcher were beauty queens. Just how shallow are you? If "gorgeous" is part of my litmus test for electability, then that is my choice. Dems are the ones who judge by labels. They want everyone to look differently but think exactly alike. That is "diversity". And, you guys tossed Hillary to the curb. Didn't bother me a bit. Good riddance. She hasn't aged well anyway.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Nov 20, 2012 21:18:52 GMT -5
I stopped at the top of page 4 of that thread, but I can keep going through it if you want.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 20, 2012 22:03:15 GMT -5
I do, but I'm not society. I'm just one dude. You yourself said in the thread on P&M yesterday that you would only vote for a female president if she was attractive. You got indignant when people said that was shallow and defended your right to base your vote on looks. Now, you're in here saying that looks don't matter in our society. Pick a side lady. Does "...to (sic) old and haggard" come to mind?
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Post by Sammy on Nov 20, 2012 22:40:30 GMT -5
Sam 's Tenn That being said I can remember thinking how can a man who borders on handsome be a serial killer. Check out some of California's serial killers and you will know what I mean. Never judge a book by it's cover.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 7:00:56 GMT -5
You guys CAN"T read or have a serious lack of the ability to interpret my brilliance. I said that looks DO matter to society at large. I said the Oldest women is usually the FIRST person kicked off the island no matter how skilled, smart, capable, talented or whatever. Law of the Jungle if you will. Not my rules but just the way the world plays it. Not saying it is right or wrong but simply IS. Thus, if one wants to put forth a viable candidate, their physicality IS going to come into play. Didn't people question McCain because of his AGE? The same thing. Attractive people are generally viewed as healthier, brighter, stronger, and on and on. I didn't say that was right or wrong, i just said it IS the way it is. Third, I SAID that as a VOTER, i can CHOOSE to vote for any candidate based on any criteria I so choose, be it their bra size, shoe size or whether they put ketchup on their fries at one of their lunch stops or my opinion on how they would handle foreign policy. Nobody gets to decide for me and i don't get to decide for you what criteria you use to vote. I DID NOT say that was MY criteria.
Forth, we then digressed into physical attractiveness in general, especially of females and i said there was also nothing wrong with celebrating the attractiveness of woman.
DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR? Sheesh. I put forth very clear opinions, but yet you can only view my postings through whatever the notion of 'right wing conservative' is and presume to know what i think and what my opinions are despite my telling you exactly what i think and why.
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Post by tloonya on Nov 21, 2012 14:32:02 GMT -5
Women who wearing clothes that showing their rolls are used to be fat cheerleaders! All I am saying - do not make that girl who can't fit into S-L size uniform make the team!!! Young women should know - there are places where you can't 'make it' with your looks. They have o go on diet or go to wrestling or sumo! I would never in my youth life wear tight clothes in public. It is not attractive! It is not healthy to teach them that they can be seen in public with their fat falling out of the clothes!
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Post by tloonya on Nov 21, 2012 14:40:33 GMT -5
Shooby! One question. Would Lady Gaga be a huge of your interest if she wore all of her extravagant outfits on unopropriately not fit for it? I doubt it.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Nov 21, 2012 15:21:17 GMT -5
Age and beauty aren't the same thing. If a 50 year old McCain that looked like a troll was running I wouldn't question his age. If a 50 year old McCain who looked like an underwear model was running I wouldn't question his age. When a 72 year old two time cancer survivor with lingering physical problems from spending a few years being tortured is running I'm going to question his age and health whether he's one of the beautiful people or looks like Quasimodo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 20:06:32 GMT -5
Women who wearing clothes that showing their rolls are used to be fat cheerleaders! All I am saying - do not make that girl who can't fit into S-L size uniform make the team!!! Young women should know - there are places where you can't 'make it' with your looks. They have o go on diet or go to wrestling or sumo! I would never in my youth life wear tight clothes in public. It is not attractive! It is not healthy to teach them that they can be seen in public with their fat falling out of the clothes! Why? Are you ashamed of your body? And, everyone isn't a size 0 so why should they go into hiding? Flaunt it!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 20:08:11 GMT -5
Age and beauty aren't the same thing. If a 50 year old McCain that looked like a troll was running I wouldn't question his age. If a 50 year old McCain who looked like an underwear model was running I wouldn't question his age. When a 72 year old two time cancer survivor with lingering physical problems from spending a few years being tortured is running I'm going to question his age and health whether he's one of the beautiful people or looks like Quasimodo. What is your point? Serious Fugliness can be as much of an impediment as age. You talk out of both sides of your mouth. And, voters respond to certain kinds of leaders better than others. That is just reality.
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Post by Opti on Nov 21, 2012 20:38:46 GMT -5
You guys CAN"T read or have a serious lack of the ability to interpret my brilliance. I said that looks DO matter to society at large. I said the Oldest women is usually the FIRST person kicked off the island no matter how skilled, smart, capable, talented or whatever. Law of the Jungle if you will. Not my rules but just the way the world plays it. Not saying it is right or wrong but simply IS. Thus, if one wants to put forth a viable candidate, their physicality IS going to come into play. Didn't people question McCain because of his AGE? The same thing. Attractive people are generally viewed as healthier, brighter, stronger, and on and on. I didn't say that was right or wrong, i just said it IS the way it is. Third, I SAID that as a VOTER, i can CHOOSE to vote for any candidate based on any criteria I so choose, be it their bra size, shoe size or whether they put ketchup on their fries at one of their lunch stops or my opinion on how they would handle foreign policy. Nobody gets to decide for me and i don't get to decide for you what criteria you use to vote. I DID NOT say that was MY criteria. Forth, we then digressed into physical attractiveness in general, especially of females and i said there was also nothing wrong with celebrating the attractiveness of woman. DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR? Sheesh. I put forth very clear opinions, but yet you can only view my postings through whatever the notion of 'right wing conservative' is and presume to know what i think and what my opinions are despite my telling you exactly what i think and why. Shooby, did you explictly say you would only vote for an attractive female President? No. I think we probably can all agree on that. Speaking for myself, I'm not looking at what you have said on political females based on some weird average right wing conservative whoever that might be. I like Dark am looking at your posts. And while it isn't explicit, the implications are pretty clear. It appears you wouldn't elect any female to office that wasn't attractive. Per your posts you are harsher on female politicians looks than you are on male politicians. Everything you have posted to date would lead anyone who paid attention to believe attractiveness would be a huge qualifier for you to vote for a woman politician. I don't think it would be the only reason but it given what you have posted it would be a huge influence.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Nov 21, 2012 20:56:03 GMT -5
I'm saying that age and beauty are not the same thing. People questioned McCain's age because he was old and has a history of health problems. It had nothing to do with whether or not he was attractive. If he'd been 50, but looked exactly the same, nobody would have questioned his age.
Totally agree. She never explicitly said she would only vote for an attractive woman. She implied the hell out of it though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 21:23:04 GMT -5
You guys CAN"T read or have a serious lack of the ability to interpret my brilliance. I said that looks DO matter to society at large. I said the Oldest women is usually the FIRST person kicked off the island no matter how skilled, smart, capable, talented or whatever. Law of the Jungle if you will. Not my rules but just the way the world plays it. Not saying it is right or wrong but simply IS. Thus, if one wants to put forth a viable candidate, their physicality IS going to come into play. Didn't people question McCain because of his AGE? The same thing. Attractive people are generally viewed as healthier, brighter, stronger, and on and on. I didn't say that was right or wrong, i just said it IS the way it is. Third, I SAID that as a VOTER, i can CHOOSE to vote for any candidate based on any criteria I so choose, be it their bra size, shoe size or whether they put ketchup on their fries at one of their lunch stops or my opinion on how they would handle foreign policy. Nobody gets to decide for me and i don't get to decide for you what criteria you use to vote. I DID NOT say that was MY criteria. Forth, we then digressed into physical attractiveness in general, especially of females and i said there was also nothing wrong with celebrating the attractiveness of woman. DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR? Sheesh. I put forth very clear opinions, but yet you can only view my postings through whatever the notion of 'right wing conservative' is and presume to know what i think and what my opinions are despite my telling you exactly what i think and why. Shooby, did you explictly say you would only vote for an attractive female President? No. I think we probably can all agree on that. Speaking for myself, I'm not looking at what you have said on political females based on some weird average right wing conservative whoever that might be. I like Dark am looking at your posts. And while it isn't explicit, the implications are pretty clear. It appears you wouldn't elect any female to office that wasn't attractive. Per your posts you are harsher on female politicians looks than you are on male politicians. Everything you have posted to date would lead anyone who paid attention to believe attractiveness would be a huge qualifier for you to vote for a woman politician. I don't think it would be the only reason but it given what you have posted it would be a huge influence. Read whatever "implications" you choose or actually read what i post, your choice. I have explained this ad nauseaum, three times. Have at it at back posts or just formulate an opinion that isn't based on what i actually said.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 21:25:16 GMT -5
I'm saying that age and beauty are not the same thing. People questioned McCain's age because he was old and has a history of health problems. It had nothing to do with whether or not he was attractive. If he'd been 50, but looked exactly the same, nobody would have questioned his age. Totally agree. She never explicitly said she would only vote for an attractive woman. She implied the hell out of it though. For the 300th umpteenth time, i said SOCIETY is going to prefer a more attractive candidate. Helllooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 21, 2012 23:06:01 GMT -5
I'm saying that age and beauty are not the same thing. People questioned McCain's age because he was old and has a history of health problems. It had nothing to do with whether or not he was attractive. If he'd been 50, but looked exactly the same, nobody would have questioned his age. Totally agree. She never explicitly said she would only vote for an attractive woman. She implied the hell out of it though. For the 300th umpteenth time, i said SOCIETY is going to prefer a more attractive candidate. Helllooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Right or wrong, studies have shown that beautiful people get jobs ahead of their fugly or plain counterparts...I don't think it is only shooby who think that looks matter.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2012 2:37:09 GMT -5
OMG, thank you for making clear the point i was trying to make for 5 pages!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2012 4:00:22 GMT -5
I stopped at the top of page 4 of that thread, but I can keep going through it if you want. Dark have I mentioned lately that I love you?
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Post by tloonya on Nov 24, 2012 15:41:55 GMT -5
Shooby! You somehow forgot to answer to me about Gaga. If she was fat and her rolls were spilled over her sexy clothes - would you choose her to be your avatar? And remember...you arew under the oath!!!
So....I am not ashamed of my body only because I keep my body covered enough so no one would have to talk about my 'rolls' or 'ass' (well...they do anyway) or tighs...I keep it cool-ly clothed... And I want those fatsos to keep their rolls INSIDE of their clothes and not make me gag while seeing it or Laugh OUT Loud!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by tloonya on Nov 24, 2012 16:08:39 GMT -5
Right or wrong, studies have shown that beautiful people get jobs ahead of their fugly or plain counterparts...I don't think it is only shooby who think that looks matter.
I think that Shooby showed us all that she likes pretty people (look at avatar) better. However Shooby also wants to let us know hat she thinks fat people have rights to demonstrate their 'assets' to the society...which kind of contrary to what Shooby was trying to tell us previously. So to my understanding Shooby's participation in such a loooooong thread changed somehow Shooby's outlook on fugly and now she is confused but keeping posting...
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Nov 24, 2012 17:08:47 GMT -5
Nancy TLoony.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 24, 2012 18:24:34 GMT -5
You somehow forgot to answer to me about Gaga. If she was fat and her rolls were spilled over her sexy clothes ------------- If? IF?? Lol!
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Nov 24, 2012 19:18:44 GMT -5
Thankis, Welts. I just ate and did not need to see that.
Now pardon me while I go get the eye pick and brain bleach. I wonder if Loony carries those in her store?
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 24, 2012 19:34:45 GMT -5
Sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2012 20:32:36 GMT -5
Shooby! You somehow forgot to answer to me about Gaga. If she was fat and her rolls were spilled over her sexy clothes - would you choose her to be your avatar? And remember...you arew under the oath!!! So....I am not ashamed of my body only because I keep my body covered enough so no one would have to talk about my 'rolls' or 'ass' (well...they do anyway) or tighs...I keep it cool-ly clothed... And I want those fatsos to keep their rolls INSIDE of their clothes and not make me gag while seeing it or Laugh OUT Loud!!!!!!!!!!!! Um, you are free go to Littlemonsters.com and view pics of Gaga. (btw, I DID NOT BRING her up before any gets on my case). So, yeah, women's bodies do change over the course of their lives up and down. Who hasn't. But, those photos are not necessarily real. If you wish to compare to fan shots on the site, you can decide for yourself. She did take a break from a grueling schedule of recording, touring, TV, interviews and on and on. Her fans are her fans.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Nov 24, 2012 20:33:04 GMT -5
S'OK. I'm blind now. No need to worry. ;D
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