Market on life support?

[bga4444]

What will happen to the market when the government and "the Fed" has to pull out that 2-3 trillion to pay off the Chinese...just asking?
BTW Hello to all I hope everyone is well!

[decoy409]

Well bga4444, as we wediscussed a short time back,that it would all catch up to itself eventually. Take a look at this egg,

So here we are looking to,

US debt: how big is it and who owns it?

www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jul/15/us-debt-how-big-who-owns

and we should keep in mind as a few others are,


"The U.S. fiscal gap, calculated (by us) using the Congressional Budget Office’s realistic long-term budget forecast -- the Alternative Fiscal Scenario -- is now $222 trillion. Last year, it was $211 trillion. The $11 trillion difference -- this year’s true federal deficit -- is 10 times larger than the official deficit and roughly as large as the entire stock of official debt in public hands. This fantastic and dangerous growth in the fiscal gap is not new. In 2003 and 2004, the economists Alan Auerbach and William Gale extended the CBO’s short-term forecast and measured fiscal gaps of $60 trillion and $86 trillion, respectively. In 2007, the first year the CBO produced the Alternative Fiscal Scenario, the gap, by our reckoning, stood at $175 trillion. By 2009, when the CBO began reporting the AFS annually, the gap was $184 trillion. In 2010, it was $202 trillion, followed by $211 trillion in 2011 and $222 trillion in 2012. Part of the fiscal gap’s growth reflects changes in policy, such as the Bush and Obama tax cuts, the introduction of Medicare Part D, and the expansion of defense spending. Part reflects natural growth of existing programs, including growth in Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement rates. And part reflects the demographic time bomb U.S. politicians are blithely ignoring."

www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-08/blink-u-s-debt-just-grew-by-11-trillion.htm

It's a race to debase!

[decoy409]

So whatcha think bg444? Why maybe you can bring a few others here to your topic. ;D

[Deleted]

Oct 6, 2012 13:43:29 GMT -5 decoy409 said:

So whatcha think bg444? Why maybe you can bring a few others here to your topic. ;D

I am new on this thread. What have you been doing lately?
I have been mostly hang around "Money" section.

;D

[decoy409]

That's a whole lot of money in just a few entries to this thread.

[decoy409]

bga4444,watch this action today as it started late last night. Why the 'Daily Double' got going real early before open.

[decoy409]

Message deleted by mmhmm. That's enough with the baiting, Decoy.

[decoy409]

Well still no takersa bga4444.

[Driftr]

Oct 3, 2012 15:49:22 GMT -5 bga4444 said:

What will happen to the market when the government and "the Fed" has to pull out that 2-3 trillion to pay off the Chinese...just asking?
BTW Hello to all I hope everyone is well!

Hi BGA! Long time no see.

China holdings of US debt is down to 1.15T as of July'12. That's actually down 165 billion (or 13%) from July'11. Market seems to be hanging in there so far even with that partial pay off of the Chinese.

[decoy409]

bga4444,hard to believe how far some stoop to protect PONZI.

[decoy409]

Well bga4444,pefect timing for your thread!

[frankq]

Oct 3, 2012 15:49:22 GMT -5 bga4444 said:

What will happen to the market when the government and "the Fed" has to pull out that 2-3 trillion to pay off the Chinese...just asking?
BTW Hello to all I hope everyone is well!

What makes you think that we're really going to pay off the Chinese? Keep betting that the market will collapse and you'll never make any money. Just saying......Investments in any stock should be based on current profits and future prospects, nothing else. Business will continue in any environment because that's how the world runs. Even Communist China figured out that Capitalism works. Mao must be spinning in his grave. Anyone who actually wants to cheer a market collapse is a fool. Anyone who believes that the stock market is a "ponzi" is not far behind.

[frankq]

Well, the patient is looking ok so far...

[frankq]

Market projections -- 50% possibility of 15,000+ at year's end.

[texasredneck]

Market projections -- 50% possibility of less than 9,500 at years end.

[Deleted]

could we have a correction....sure

10-15% would be my guess...so maybe down to 12200

9500?

not happening....and i am willing to put my money where my mouth is

are you?

[texasredneck]

Yes! Because there is a 100% possibility that the market will be between ZERO and 36,000. and I am placing my money on that.

[decoy409]

texas, willing to put it all on the line hey. That's too darn funny!

Why don't they address the TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS of propping that has been done,is being done,and continues without remorse being done?

I will answer that. Becouse if they did,then they would have to state that this farce of the ongoing could have never been made possible by the GRAND ILLUSION in which it is and has been.

[Deleted]

Mar 18, 2013 13:28:58 GMT -5 texasredneck said:

Yes! Because there is a 100% possibility that the market will be between ZERO and 36,000. and I am placing my money on that.

wow


really sticking your neck out there.....


0     9500      36000


not much of a prognostication there.....

[texasredneck]

gdgyva

You misunderstood my post, I just told you I left the market when QEinfinity was announced.

[texasredneck]

I feel confident that in my life time I will be 100% correct about the market.

I got out with a small amount of money.

The rest of you best hope and pray for that good of an outcome.

[Deleted]

so you believe that the world markets will implode....and all companies will be worthless

that is the gist of what you are saying.....

mcdonalds will not sell any more burgers
ge will not sell any more lightbulbs
proctor & gamble will not sell any more paper products
boeing wont sell any more airplanes

because if they are selling products...they are worth something

we can argue about how they are valued, and whether or not their balance sheet is accurate

but any company selling products...earning a profit is worth more than zero....can we agree on that?

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

I guess it's a common thing with a certain crowd around here eh G?  From what I can see it goes, make outrageous claims, then when called out on them just ignore and act like you're still right.... 

[Deleted]

seems to be their way....

its a fairly easy question i asked....

apparently not so for them

[frankq]

Yes! Because there is a 100% possibility that the market will be between ZERO and 36,000. and I am placing my money on that.

You are placing your money on nothing, because, as you stated, you left the market years ago.......and lost your ass in doing so. That's your choice and it's ok.

I will answer that. Becouse if they did,then they would have to state that this farce of the ongoing could have never been made possible by the GRAND ILLUSION in which it is and has been.

You've answered nothing.....

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Exactly, no answers, that's all I'm askin for.

Mar 22, 2013 7:54:56 GMT -5 @gdgyva said:

seems to be their way....

its a fairly easy question i asked....

apparently not so for them

Their way indeed, mouths writing checks that their butts can't cash comes to mind. I guess though, an answer to what you're asking G means that some kind of rational explanation has to follow..

[frankq]

No you're asking the impossible....

[frankq]

If gold and silver don't make a major move next week they never will!

Hey, somebody in the gold camp is actually making a call. Good for him.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

It seems like the right one as well.... 

Mar 23, 2013 7:49:57 GMT -5 frankq said:

No you're asking the impossible....

 No doubt, I see instead of standing up for what you believe in like a man, all there is, is more underhanded remarks in the form of a new thread.. 

[frankq]

Opening looks fairly good today.....for stocks anyway....Looks like the Cyprus thing is running it's course.