Market on life support?

[usaone]

Jun 24, 2013 16:52:29 GMT -5 sunrnr said:

Jun 19, 2013 11:55:23 GMT -5 clubv said:

Oh a board tainted by greed. When will they ever learn?

Nice drive by... And just what is it to be learned?

Well, when you've been wrong every step of the way, what else can you say?

[jarrett1]

SAY HEY...youz gotz stinking thinking

[dothedd]

Greetings BAT Man ....

When I get out of the NVAX zone ... I get into trouble!   

Glad you found your way back.  I have not been able to log into FW?  So don't have a clue what has been going on over there.

Later,

d

[jarrett1]

Please PM brucie or Aham...and they will get you in!!!...good to see you as well!

[bimetalaupt]

Jun 26, 2013 22:28:48 GMT -5 dothedd said:

Greetings BAT Man ....

When I get out of the NVAX zone ... I get into trouble!   

Glad you found your way back.  I have not been able to log into FW?  So don't have a clue what has been going on over there.

Later,

d

DD,
 Your address for e-mails did not work.

Bruce

[jarrett1]

See we are all over this stuff...thanx Brucie...how are you feeling today?

[damnotagain]

Market on fed support. 

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Charles Brady, senior editor of the FOX Business Network, has put together a remarkable chart that clearly shows the Federal Reserve’s monetary easing policies are not going into the U.S. economy, but instead into the stock market.

Read more: www.foxbusiness.com/economy/2013/03/04/proof-fed-is-juicing-markets/#ixzz2dQ2aRHdf

[damnotagain]

It only took 6 trillion to get it here.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Aug 29, 2013 22:21:11 GMT -5 damnotagain said:

Market on fed support. 

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Charles Brady, senior editor of the FOX Business Network, has put together a remarkable chart that clearly shows the Federal Reserve’s monetary easing policies are not going into the U.S. economy, but instead into the stock market.

Read more: www.foxbusiness.com/economy/2013/03/04/proof-fed-is-juicing-markets/#ixzz2dQ2aRHdf

  What a croc....  I guess if we overlap 09-12 on this chart below with the monetary expansion it shows that all the money that the FED printed has gone into buying autos, eh? 

[frankq]

Nice vehicle numbers today, particularly truck sales

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

I thought it was interesting that the price of cars sold hit a new high because people we willing to pay for the extras.

[damnotagain]

Compare the following graph above post # 156 to your Market and fed stimulus .
To the M2v and labor participation. Some recovery

[damnotagain]

Yes it's been fun! We are all capitalist but the thread should be titled "market on fed support." Now that is the reality 

[bimetalaupt]

Sept 10, 2013 11:33:09 GMT -5 @wxyz said:

Really dont care what or why things happen or dont happen in general.  I will take what the markets give me in the specific businesses that I invest in.

There is always some theoretical economic reason why things should or should not be happening.  I will stick with the REALITY of what is actually happening rather than what people THINK should be happening based on their individual perception of the world.

Wxyz,
WithOut bond , do you think safe side more REIT or DUK....edit make that very low beta  
YOUR THOUGHTS ON PFE OR JNJ?...MRK FOR +++++ten years 

[damnotagain]

Sept 10, 2013 11:33:09 GMT -5 @wxyz said:

Really dont care what ?

There-in lies the difference. 

[damnotagain]

Yes I can see that! That was a good laugh . Thank you 

[damnotagain]

Since I go for surgery tomorrow ill be around for a few weeks here. So grab the pack and let's have some fun.

I care Z and would do anything in the world for you and your family.

[frankq]

Really dont care what or why things happen or dont happen in general. I will take what the markets give me in the specific businesses that I invest in.

There is always some theoretical economic reason why things should or should not be happening. I will stick with the REALITY of what is actually happening rather than what people THINK should be happening based on their individual perception of the world.

We've had this discussion countless times wxyz, he just doesn't get the concept of playing the cards we're dealt for a given situation...


Bruce,

I would go with MRK long. JNJ is a rock. Just my opinion. I own MRK. In addition, I will always like T. People will give up food before they give up their phones....

[frankq]

Since I go for surgery tomorrow ill be around for a few weeks here. So grab the pack and let's have some fun.

Well, in 13 days I'll be retired......Maybe I'll pop in to slap you around here and there......I mean, how much golf can a guy play?

[damnotagain]

Look forward to it q. Just knock on the door. Not far from bay hill.

We can do some gator hunting. You'll love it . Bring a flashlight

[frankq]

I could do gator hunting......

[sunrnr]

Sept 10, 2013 14:33:16 GMT -5 @wxyz said:

Yes, I dont care.....

Actually besides myself and my family who or what am I supposed to care about?  The government?  The poor?  The general public?  Other investors?  Society?

None of them care one whit about me or mine.  I dont have the power to make a difference to anyone or anything else.  So, I focus on my little bit of the world which is myself and family.  If everyone focused on taking care of themselves and their own family the world would be just fine.

Yes there are a lot of things I would change or correct if I ran the country, but I dont, so I am not going to spend all my time worrying about things I have no control over.

[sunrnr]

Sept 10, 2013 16:17:18 GMT -5 damnotagain said:

Since I go for surgery tomorrow ill be around for a few weeks here. So grab the pack and let's have some fun.

I care Z and would do anything in the world for you and your family.

Good luck, damn. Hope all goes well.

[mmhmm]

Good luck with the surgery, damnot.  Hope everything goes smoothly and you heal quickly.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Sept 10, 2013 11:15:44 GMT -5 damnotagain said:

Compare the following graph above post # 156 to your Market and fed stimulus .
To the M2v and labor participation. Some recovery

I have to had it to ya dam, when you think you're onto something, you're tenacious, I respect that.  I agree that job growth is slow, and they aren't all the exact jobs that people want to see, however, read the article below it sums it up nicely.  

Three reasons the U.S. labor force keeps shrinking

Demographics have always played a big role in the rise and fall of the labor force. Between 1960 and 2000, the labor force in the United States surged from 59 percent to a peak of 67.3 percent. That was largely due to the fact that more women were entering the labor force while improvements in health and information technology allowed Americans to work more years.

But since 2000, the labor force rate has been steadily declining as the baby-boom generation has been retiring. Because of this, the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago expects the labor force participation rate to be lower in 2020 than it is today, regardless of how well the economy does.

Here is some reality for you, since you like graphs so much. The market right now is on leveraged support,  I know.



Without the leverage the market is at 12800-13500 right now. It is what it is and just like wxyz said, I'll take it all the way to the bank.

[damnotagain]

I do like charts! 

The graph shows how analysts, a ridiculously optimistic bunch, have tempered their enthusiasm for earnings growth. Further downward revisions are likely. Earnings stagnation would be next. 

www.testosteronepit.com/home/2013/9/16/the-mother-of-all-delusions-us-stocks-blind-to-crashing-earn.html 

Absent any miracles over the next three months, Q4 earnings forecasts are going to get kicked down brutally to bring them in line with some sort of achievable reality. Meanwhile, earnings forecasts for next year, though they have come down as well, are still showing growth of 11.3% as of September 13. Delusions in lala-land – unless the desperately hoped-for series of miracles transpires.

And how has the stock market reacted to the revenue and earnings debacle unfolding under its very nose? Since October 1, 2012, the S&P 500 has jumped 16.8% and the NASDAQ 19.6%.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

I have been talking about a slowdown in earnings all year damn...  I would say Ben B and the bunch did a great job of cooling off the housing market just by talking.  Interest rates can hover here for a while, but 3.5% on a 30 yr is probably gone for good.  Keep that slow growth going now with the continued recovery of the US housing market.

Another chart for you damn.  Income equality is an issue for sure, but from the 1800's to about 1945 the US poverty rate was between 30-50%... 



Joe is better off now than at any point in US history.  Just think about how much of a well oiled, prosperity producing machine, the US will be as it shakes off the shackles of welfare slavery. 

[Ombud]

Market down 1st 3 trading days of 2014. What % of times does it continue dn rest of year?

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Not sure Ombud, I had a chance to talk to the guy who would have that stat over the holidays, he was saying the same thing bimetals math model says 18k next year.

Not sure what the black swan factor is on bimetals math model, but I would assume Fallujah falling to terrorists would fall under that catigorgy? ?

Buy on any dip or correction.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Jan 6, 2014 16:33:32 GMT -5 Ombud said:

Market down 1st 3 trading days of 2014. What % of times does it continue dn rest of year?

I read this article the other day that has some interesting facts on this subject...

iStock market's slow start may bode ill for 2014

The Stock Trader's Almanac says that if the S&P 500 rises during the first five days, the index has an 85 percent chance of ending the year higher, based on 40 years of data.

The last time the index fell over that stretch was in 2008 - when the S&P 500 slipped 5.3 percent - as the stock market reeled in the aftermath of the financial crisis. The index ended the year 38.5 percent lower as the Great Recession took hold.

By that analysis, the stock market's performance for all of January signals how the stock market will perform for the year. The January barometer has been right for 62 or the last 85 years, or 72.9 percent of the time, according to Howard Silverblatt, a senior index analyst at S&P Dow Jones Indices.

As I mentioned in the Asian crisis thread, echoes of 2007-2008? Stay