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Post by Reckless Roselia on Sept 16, 2012 10:15:14 GMT -5
I'm still waiting on info of God's mistresses.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 10:16:18 GMT -5
ISA, you are explaining this much better than I am. I believe we were once one with the God energy, an energy that was so full of love it couldn't contain itself. So it exploded, much as a seed pod does here on earth, dispersing its seeds into the wind. Then as if babies being born, our souls were blasted into the universe to learn about it,, learn to love, grown, become perfect and rejoin again with the God energy. Well, you seem to be doing a pretty good job yourself, Lone. That's a lovely way to describe it. Perhaps we differ on a few of the finer points but the general scheme is agreeable to me; the endeavour to return to a harmonious oneness. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 10:22:41 GMT -5
Not at all Roselia. I can discuss theology all day long.  I was once like yourself. I'd let it rip with anyone who disagreed, questioned or insulted my beliefs and faith. Just like Xena, the warrior princess, I found myself to be. Anyway, enjoy this discussion. It's nice seeing you fire up like this.  I am not "letting it rip". I am explaining my thought processes and rationale in a reasoned, rational discussion.  You should try it sometime as well.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 10:23:32 GMT -5
I'm still waiting on info of God's mistresses. What is it you want to know? I suggest you go read the Book of John and or/Matthew if you wish to have better understanding of my point of view. |
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Post by femmefatale on Sept 16, 2012 10:25:43 GMT -5
I was once like yourself. I'd let it rip with anyone who disagreed, questioned or insulted my beliefs and faith. Just like Xena, the warrior princess, I found myself to be. Anyway, enjoy this discussion. It's nice seeing you fire up like this. I am not "letting it rip". I am explaining my thought processes and rationale in a reasoned, rational discussion. You should try it sometime as well. You are doing a fine job, Shoobz. I am understanding your every point and agree with you on this subject, of course. |
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Post by Reckless Roselia on Sept 16, 2012 10:29:02 GMT -5
I was once like yourself. I'd let it rip with anyone who disagreed, questioned or insulted my beliefs and faith. Just like Xena, the warrior princess, I found myself to be. Anyway, enjoy this discussion. It's nice seeing you fire up like this. I am not "letting it rip". I am explaining my thought processes and rationale in a reasoned, rational discussion. You should try it sometime as well. Coming from someone that told me to 'watch & learn' from herself as to how to kick arse.  I'm still waiting on info of God's mistresses. What is it you want to know? I suggest you go read the Book of John and or/Matthew if you wish to have better understanding of my point of view. Cannot think outside the sandbox? I am asking of God's wives. The God you believe in has had a wife, Asherah. But you knew, right. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 10:29:11 GMT -5
Not at all Roselia. I can discuss theology all day long. I was once like yourself. I'd let it rip with anyone who disagreed, questioned or insulted my beliefs and faith. Just like Xena, the warrior princess, I found myself to be. Anyway, enjoy this discussion. It's nice seeing you fire up like this. And, not sure of the reference to "Xena Warrior Princess". God is quite capable of defending himself. I am not at all threatened by anyone's beliefs. I am quite comfortable in what i believe and why i believe what i do. And, i am also quite certain that my understand of God is as if i am "seeing through the mirror darkly" where is have SOME understanding but incomplete knowledge and some wrong assumptions as well. I believe we can know "something" of God. We cannot know or understand everything about God. There are some who want to say that because we don't know EVERYTHING that this therefore means we cannot know ANYTHING about God. I can know things about my spouse or children. I can have a relationship with them. But, i cannot and will never know everything about them. We can come to know God in a personal sense but we cannot possibly even scratch the surface of His Being. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 10:30:45 GMT -5
I am not "letting it rip". I am explaining my thought processes and rationale in a reasoned, rational discussion. You should try it sometime as well. Coming from someone that told me to learn from them as to how to kick arse. What is it you want to know? I suggest you go read the Book of John and or/Matthew if you wish to have better understanding of my point of view. Cannot think outside the sandbox? I am asking of God's wives. The God you believe in has had a wife, Asherah. But you knew, right. [/quote] Um, no that is not my belief at all. I am perfectly capable of explaining my beliefs and have done so. As for "kicking arse", um you are the one who brought this on to the thread, not me.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 10:32:19 GMT -5
Anyway, i have to log off for a while. Gotta get my day going. Have fun peeps! |
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Post by Reckless Roselia on Sept 16, 2012 10:32:25 GMT -5
I was once like yourself. I'd let it rip with anyone who disagreed, questioned or insulted my beliefs and faith. Just like Xena, the warrior princess, I found myself to be. Anyway, enjoy this discussion. It's nice seeing you fire up like this. And, not sure of the reference to "Xena Warrior Princess". God is quite capable of defending himself. I am not at all threatened by anyone's beliefs. I am quite comfortable in what i believe and why i believe what i do. And, i am also quite certain that my understand of God is as if i am "seeing through the mirror darkly" where is have SOME understanding but incomplete knowledge and some wrong assumptions as well. I believe we can know "something" of God. We cannot know or understand everything about God. There are some who want to say that because we don't know EVERYTHING that this therefore means we cannot know ANYTHING about God. I can know things about my spouse or children. I can have a relationship with them. But, i cannot and will never know everything about them. We can come to know God in a personal sense but we cannot possibly even scratch the surface of His Being. You are defending the indefensible most of the time in your theology discussions. I was doing that too until I realised what was going on. Hence the warrior princess image. |
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Post by femmefatale on Sept 16, 2012 10:34:19 GMT -5
Anyway, i have to log off for a while. Gotta get my day going. Have fun peeps! You have a great day, Shoobz. ;D  |
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Post by Reckless Roselia on Sept 16, 2012 10:35:54 GMT -5
ROSE said: But God can be anything right? Do we know how He looks like or how he feels or talk? He may just be light energy. Everything in nature was created by God. (Give Him any name you wish) So yes, I would agree that all good things represent Him. He is the master scientist in my opinion. But, I posted somewhere that my son visited God outside the gates of heaven and DS described God to us. He was - at 4 years old - perplexed about God's blue dress. In this world men do not wear dresses. He was a bit taken back. So, I'm thinking (not an absolute) if we were created in His image, then we do know what he looks like. This is not to say He can't take on any image that a person can relate to. Just to let you know DS said he has white hair and a long beard. Maybe He's Jewish?  ? As an aside, I'm thinking He feels anything we are able to feel - because this is part of being made in His image. But His patience is so much greater than ours could ever be. I don't share the belief that I am created in God's image, Idin. Again this sounds metaphorical to my ears. Does God share similar organs to me? I don't think He does. Does God have sex? (excuse the rudeness of the comment). I don't think He does. Hence why I believe that I'm not created in His image. Does the creation necessarily take form of the creator? Is it a must? About your DS, he was young when he had his religious experience and saw a vision of God's clothes. Can it not be another form of God's creation of which he saw? Can it not be Jesus instead in a long robe or the sort? I too had a religious experience and I felt God's voice. It was powerful but I suppose it cannot be God. He shouldn't be playing favourites right? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 10:36:13 GMT -5
And, not sure of the reference to "Xena Warrior Princess". God is quite capable of defending himself. I am not at all threatened by anyone's beliefs. I am quite comfortable in what i believe and why i believe what i do. And, i am also quite certain that my understand of God is as if i am "seeing through the mirror darkly" where is have SOME understanding but incomplete knowledge and some wrong assumptions as well. I believe we can know "something" of God. We cannot know or understand everything about God. There are some who want to say that because we don't know EVERYTHING that this therefore means we cannot know ANYTHING about God. I can know things about my spouse or children. I can have a relationship with them. But, i cannot and will never know everything about them. We can come to know God in a personal sense but we cannot possibly even scratch the surface of His Being. You are defending the indefensible most of the time in your theology discussions. I was doing that too until I realised what was going on. Hence the warrior princess image. Um, please explain how i am "defending the indefensible"? I have no idea what you mean. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 10:36:30 GMT -5
And, not sure of the reference to "Xena Warrior Princess". Lmao! Anyway, i have to log off for a while. Gotta get my day going. Have fun peeps! Take it ez, Shooby Doowop!  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 10:37:07 GMT -5
ROSE said: But God can be anything right? Do we know how He looks like or how he feels or talk? He may just be light energy. Everything in nature was created by God. (Give Him any name you wish) So yes, I would agree that all good things represent Him. He is the master scientist in my opinion. But, I posted somewhere that my son visited God outside the gates of heaven and DS described God to us. He was - at 4 years old - perplexed about God's blue dress. In this world men do not wear dresses. He was a bit taken back. So, I'm thinking (not an absolute) if we were created in His image, then we do know what he looks like. This is not to say He can't take on any image that a person can relate to. Just to let you know DS said he has white hair and a long beard. Maybe He's Jewish? ? As an aside, I'm thinking He feels anything we are able to feel - because this is part of being made in His image. But His patience is so much greater than ours could ever be. I don't share the belief that I am created in God's image, Idin. Again this sounds metaphorical to my ears. Does God share similar organs to me? I don't think He does. Does God have sex? (excuse the rudeness of the comment). I don't think He does. Hence why I believe that I'm not created in His image. Does the creation necessarily take form of the creator? Is it a must? About your DS, he was young when he had his religious experience and saw a vision of God's clothes. Can it not be another form of God's creation of which he saw? Can it not be Jesus instead in a long robe or the sort? I too had a religious experience and I felt God's voice. It was powerful but I suppose it cannot be God. He shouldn't be playing favourites right? Did I ask you to share my beliefs? Um, no. I am explaining what i believe and why which is the point of the thread. |
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Post by mrsdutt on Sept 16, 2012 10:37:59 GMT -5
The clay is not the Potter. We are the clay, he is the Potter. A creation of His hands but we are NOT God. You're foot is not you, a part of you? LONE: You wouldn't be baiting SHHO, would you?  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 10:38:47 GMT -5
Who is SHHO?
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Post by Reckless Roselia on Sept 16, 2012 10:39:53 GMT -5
I don't share the belief that I am created in God's image, Idin. Again this sounds metaphorical to my ears. Does God share similar organs to me? I don't think He does. Does God have sex? (excuse the rudeness of the comment). I don't think He does. Hence why I believe that I'm not created in His image. Does the creation necessarily take form of the creator? Is it a must? About your DS, he was young when he had his religious experience and saw a vision of God's clothes. Can it not be another form of God's creation of which he saw? Can it not be Jesus instead in a long robe or the sort? I too had a religious experience and I felt God's voice. It was powerful but I suppose it cannot be God. He shouldn't be playing favourites right? Did I ask you to share my beliefs? Um, no. I am explaining what i believe and why which is the point of the thread. Tut tut Shooby, My post is to Idin and not you. You're slipping fast. I thought you were gone but you are still here. |
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Post by mrsdutt on Sept 16, 2012 10:40:45 GMT -5
ROSE said: I don't share the belief that I am created in God's image, Idin. Again this sounds metaphorical to my ears. Does God share similar organs to me? I don't think He does. Does God have sex? (excuse the rudeness of the comment). I don't think He does. Hence why I believe that I'm not created in His image.
I'm alright with that. No problem.
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Post by dom on Sept 16, 2012 10:41:05 GMT -5
I somehow can never see that happening. The only harmony you can or could create is with yourself and your close friends and family.
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Post by mrsdutt on Sept 16, 2012 10:41:39 GMT -5
Why it's you. i used the Italian spelling. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 10:41:54 GMT -5
No, i was referring to the point you are making that you don't "share the belief of being created in God's image". I don't think anyone is asking you. As for "slipping" or whatever, I am perfectly capable of understanding what i am responding to and why. Much better to worry about your own slippage than someone else's. But thanks for thinking of me. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 10:43:15 GMT -5
Anyway, I really gotta run! Have fun Roselia and friends! |
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Sept 16, 2012 10:44:09 GMT -5
Believing in Heaven, Hell & Purgatory - and believing in a God is called FAITH. If you have faith in your mind/heart that it is so, then in your world it is. Whether or not it is true, is up to the person to decide for themselves.
I know people who are strong believers in a God, as well as those who are Agnostics, or Athiests. The believer is no better (or worse) a human being than the agnostic or athiest. Each of us has faults - and how we decide to live our own lives and treat others is what develops our spirit and character- not a God - in the way you're decribing him (or her) as a living entity or power over us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 10:46:24 GMT -5
I somehow can never see that happening. The only harmony you can or could create is with yourself and your close friends and family. Dom, hello, welcome. It is fair enough if you can't see it but I feel it worth pointing out that harmony need not be created, only restored. |
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Sept 16, 2012 10:49:28 GMT -5
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Post by Reckless Roselia on Sept 16, 2012 10:50:55 GMT -5
Believing in Heaven, Hell & Purgatory - and believing in a God is called FAITH. If you have faith in your mind/heart that it is so, then in your world it is. Whether or not it is true, is up to the person to decide for themselves. I know people who are strong believers in a God, as well as those who are Agnostics, or Athiests. The believer is no better (or worse) a human being than the agnostic or athiest. Each of us has faults - and how we decide to live our own lives and treat others is what develops our spirit and character- not a God - in the way you're decribing him (or her) as a living entity or power over us.  |
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Post by mrsdutt on Sept 16, 2012 11:02:04 GMT -5
Religious discussions can become "emotional", for lack of better words. Please debate the subject - not each other for their views. SL ~ Mod Don't hold one small glitch against us. But your view is what I had in mind when I started this thread. |
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Post by femmefatale on Sept 16, 2012 11:05:14 GMT -5
How can you debate a subject, without debating each other's views?  |
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Post by morrisr2d2 on Sept 16, 2012 11:07:25 GMT -5
I do believe in a God, but am not religious. I think religion is just human expression of what they feel in their heart for God. Actually science strengthens my belief in a God too. The more I understand the more in awe I am of his / her creation.
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