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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 4, 2012 19:24:34 GMT -5
My world seems to be limited in the way of exposure to pop culture. My sister called to talk about the book, 'Fifty Shades of Gray". I'd never heard of it. She commented about seeing the play, "Book of Mormon". I said, "What's that?"
She told me I need to get out more... Is she right?
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Post by Loopdilou on Sept 4, 2012 19:29:16 GMT -5
LOL, yes, GG! But avoid 50 Shades of Grey.. it's shite.
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Post by Waffle on Sept 4, 2012 19:50:24 GMT -5
Optimist - I've actually known about people who chose to live homeless for as long as I can remember. When I was a child, there was a man who lived in an old rusted out car in a vacant lot near a business. He had family nearby, but didn't want to live with them. I've since known a few other examples.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 4, 2012 19:50:50 GMT -5
You all need to live where I do. I'm the minority here! We have Indian, Chinese, Korean, Hatian, Columbian, Porta Rican, New Yorkian... ;D My father was Puerto Rican - I do not these Porta Ricans of whom you speak. BTW - My mom is black - according to one of Zib's earlier posts, I shouldn't exist! LOL! So Waffle-was this thread everything you hoped and dreamed it would be?
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Post by Malarky on Sept 4, 2012 19:52:42 GMT -5
I just did a closing at an Amish home this afternoon. Don't wear open toed sandals in an Amish barnyard. Are Birkenstocks appropriate footwear for closings?
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Post by Waffle on Sept 4, 2012 19:53:03 GMT -5
Honestly, Tenn. it's gone into directions I hadn't expected, but it's certainly been interesting.
Swamp, I wouldn't think that you would want to wear sandals in any barnyard.
I've known a couple of Mormons, one man who calls himself "half Amish" (his mother left home and married an "english" man) and I see a lot of Amish and Mennonites around town - but I can't say I really know any of them.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 4, 2012 19:53:56 GMT -5
Honestly, Tenn. it's gone into directions I hadn't expected, but it's certainly been interesting. Of that I am sure.
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Post by swamp on Sept 4, 2012 19:55:06 GMT -5
I just did a closing at an Amish home this afternoon. Don't wear open toed sandals in an Amish barnyard. Are Birkenstocks appropriate footwear for closings? I wouldn't ruin my Birks by wearing them there.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 4, 2012 20:04:40 GMT -5
Oh, good, waffle, please show me where I posted you shouldn't exist.
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Post by Waffle on Sept 4, 2012 20:12:06 GMT -5
Oh, good, waffle, please show me where I posted you shouldn't exist. Zib, I was referring to the post in which you said "HUGE tension between blacks and Hispanics. That is very true." But, mine was a tongue in cheek comment - just extrapolating to an extreme.
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Post by midjd on Sept 4, 2012 20:16:40 GMT -5
There's no place for that in YM!
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Sept 4, 2012 20:23:09 GMT -5
Oh, good, waffle, please show me where I posted you shouldn't exist. Zib, I was referring to the post in which you said "HUGE tension between blacks and Hispanics. That is very true." But, mine was a tongue in cheek comment - just extrapolating to an extreme. LOL! I was just looking to see where she said that. I was going to offer to smack her for you when I see her. But she didn't. ;D
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Post by Opti on Sept 4, 2012 20:40:43 GMT -5
There's no place for that in YM! Exactly. I thought that was standard operating procedure. Or is that P&M?
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Post by Opti on Sept 4, 2012 20:43:58 GMT -5
"Your turn" Fair enough. I wouldn't call it small minded. But I think being exposed to different cultures can enrich your life with different forms of music, food, ideas and the like. I like having my ideas on the world challenged. Why do I feel I should save this post so I can point to the last line some thread in the future?
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Post by kittensaver on Sept 4, 2012 20:51:38 GMT -5
LOL, yes, GG! But avoid 50 Shades of Grey.. it's shite. [[Note to GG: I agreed that 50 Shades is the S word. But if you'd like to indulge in some well written/literary erotica, check out Delta of Venus by Anais Nin. But shhhh, don't tell anyone I said so lol ]]
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Post by Phoenix84 on Sept 4, 2012 21:02:17 GMT -5
I think Loop may have misread your post (I did, too) - that you were saying that you could understand why some people would find it preferable to live in a homogenized community. I now see that you were saying the opposite. yes, sounds like I didn't represent what I was trying to say very well. I meant to say I can understand why people want to live in a diverse environment.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Sept 4, 2012 21:03:23 GMT -5
There are cities up there? That's news to me Come on Dark, next thing you'll tell me they have electricity, running water, and deoderant. ;D
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Post by Phoenix84 on Sept 4, 2012 21:06:46 GMT -5
"That's what I hated about where we used to live. I don't think homogeny does my kids any favors." *shrugs* I don't think homogeny is necessarily bad or limits you as a person. Though I can understand why some find it preferable. I was working off this, did I misread? Apologies if I did. No, you didn't misread, I did mistype (spoke?). I did say I found homogeny preferable. But that wasn't what I was thinking. I should have said *shrugs* I don't think homogeny is necessarily bad or limits you as a person, though I can understand why some find diversity preferable. I forgot to put all them words in there That's why I got confused over your line of questioning. Totally my fault. If you want I'll do my best to flog myself for my poor command of the english language today. I was totally mentally burned out from doing fluid mechanics problems. "Why do I feel I should save this post so I can point to the last line some thread in the future?" Sure if you want. I'm not sure what you mean. I come to this forum to have my ideas challenged. Doesn't mean I'll always change them.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Sept 4, 2012 21:08:53 GMT -5
I grew up in a lily white portion of Des Moines, IA. That meant I didn't know any black people until I went to high school. We attended the "black" high school. It was very eye opening, especially in the late 60's with lots of racial tensions in the US and Des Moines. My senior year of high school, we had a race riot in the student center that made US News and World Reports. People I considered friends were on both sides of the fight. My undergrad school was also lily white. Grad school was an eye opener. There were a lot of foreign students there and I ended up dating a Japanese student until he returned home to Tokyo. I found out what it felt to be the outcast. He would take me to parties where I was the only person who wasn't Japanese and who did not speak Japanese. Total eye-opener and great learning experience for me. My half-sister had married a Mexican. Before you jump on me, that is how he referred to himself. He was born of Mexican parents and said he was Mexican. My dad said at the time his daughters were opening his eyes. I don't think he liked it. Our uncles teased us terribly about going to school with black kids. I handled it better than my sister because I had made friends with several of my classmates. When I entered the work world, it was pretty diverse in the Denver area. Lots of different nationalities as co-workers. I'm glad I had co-workers from all over. I've traveled a lot in Western Europe. Would like to travel in Eastern Europe. I know only one rich family. Visiting there was such an eye opener. I truly found out how the other half lived. They had an elevator in their house! Where I live now, I am in the minority because I am not Catholic. This area is heavily Catholic--probably 90%. Several people have told me that living here for many years will turn you against the Catholic Church. My sister is afraid to go to the downtown area of our largest community because black people live there. I go there with no fear. I was in far worse areas in Denver on a regular basis. I knew a lot of Mormons in CO. Can't say I know any here. I was so excited when I saw an Amish buggy on the road, but I don't know any Amish. I lived with a Mormon family when I first moved to CO. I admired that Monday night was their family night and nothing got in the way. Beyond that, I was not exposed to the religion. They told me I could participate in their family night if I wanted to and I usually did. I have no issues with homosexuality. I did when I was younger. I have met so many homosexuals over the years that I know are no different than me in what they want out of life. I wish happiness and acceptance for everybody.
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Post by Apple on Sept 4, 2012 23:23:57 GMT -5
Fluid mechanics? Ugh, you have my sympathies, I hate fluid mechanics.
I was not exposed to people who weren't "from here" or Mexico until my son was born and we spent a few weeks in Portland (at the Ronald McDonald house). At home we had a lot of kids who came to school knowing very little english, just spanish, but no other languages/cultures. There was a russian guy with his daughter at the RMD house, they were "discovering" all our foods and would put hot chocolate powder on ice cream. When they ran out, he was looking all over for some, a girl from the college was there and was trying to tell him they were out. I asked what he was looking for, when I found out, I went to my cupboard--my parents had just brought me several packets of the "fancy" stuff. I offered it to him but he wouldn't take it, the college girl was trying to explain to him that I wanted to give him my cocoa. He looked at me and said "I believe this is a joke". I told him "no joke" and opened it and showed him. Really made me wonder what he had been through that he wouldn't believe someone would give him their hot cocoa. Anyway, when we left to go home, I took all the packets I had left and gave them to him, he happily took it and said "thank you".
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 5, 2012 6:42:23 GMT -5
Oh, now I "get it." honestly, the only reason I said it was because someone my mom knew who was black said that blacks resented Hispanics so it's total hearsay anyway but I could understand it. It made sense to me. But there are exceptions to everything and I certainly think you are an exception! . I wish my DS had not been exposed to the kinds of minorities he was exposed to until middle school or higher when he could have made more informed and intelligent decisions. Plus, he would have been exposed to ALL kinds not just bad kinds. Colors his world still today. DD went to the same school but it was later and didn't have the same issues because where the kids were bussed from was razed and a church was built on there instead so the kids she met were just all kinds. She has a much better view of the world as a whole and is much better at letting people prove themselves and their worth first. I was raised in a town which is now heavily minority but wasn't when I was there. I never saw a black person until hi school and never encountered being prejudiced against until I had a black teacher. All students were required to take black history and he taught it. He was the football coach and had to, of course, teach something other than football. He hated white people and teaching and made no bones about either. Too bad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2012 7:08:58 GMT -5
So, basically unless you know a lot of people who are "minorities", then your world must be limited? That seems to be the gist of all the previous pages. So, you have to be able to say "Some of my best friends are minorities" and that puts you head and shoulders above "less cultured and less sophisticated" people. Um, ok.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 5, 2012 8:13:12 GMT -5
It seems that way, doesn't it?
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Post by Formerly SK on Sept 5, 2012 9:05:28 GMT -5
My world is limited by my sense of work ethic. If we get some free time, I immediately think of a house project that should get done. DH immediately thinks of hauling the kids to the river (or somewhere else that is fun). In many many cases I can see where organizing the bathroom closet or weeding the backyard is not as important as spending an afternoon exploring our city. Yet I can't seem to help myself. Finances also limit us. I would LOVE to travel more or do more things locally, but we have to watch every penny. Sure it would be great to go to an Ethiopian or Peruvian restaurant, but since we're watching our money we basically don't eat out unless circumstances somewhat force it to happen - and that ends up being Chipotle or something. I have some friends who are pretty much the opposite of us - they do fun stuff every day and their house/cars are always a disaster. They eat at restaurants 5x/wk and every weekend they are off doing something. They buy their DD everything she wants. They travel internationally 1-2x/yr. I admit I wonder if their way is better than mine. Certainly their DD is much more worldly than my kids.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2012 9:07:24 GMT -5
I think the whole thing is in what way has our exposure been limited... exposure to minority cultures and challenges is only one area in which people have mentioned having limited experiences...
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Post by Phoenix84 on Sept 5, 2012 9:22:30 GMT -5
So, basically unless you know a lot of people who are "minorities", then your world must be limited? That seems to be the gist of all the previous pages. So, you have to be able to say "Some of my best friends are minorities" and that puts you head and shoulders above "less cultured and less sophisticated" people. Um, ok. That's (sort of) the point I was inadequately trying to make yesterday. Seems like some people feel how many minorities they know somehow makes them better people. Hence why I was saying I don't try and seek out diversity just to prove how cultured and better I am.
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Post by midjd on Sept 5, 2012 9:29:04 GMT -5
In the literal sense, yes, your world is limited if you don't have exposure to different types of people. I don't think anyone was making a value judgment or saying this exposure makes them better people. And the immediate leap that those who aren't regularly exposed to minorities are "less cultured and less sophisticated people" is a bit of projection on Shooby's part, I think... unless someone said "people who aren't exposed to minorities are losers" and I missed it. Entirely possible.
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Post by Waffle on Sept 5, 2012 9:39:55 GMT -5
I think the whole thing is in what way has our exposure been limited... exposure to minority cultures and challenges is only one area in which people have mentioned having limited experiences... This is the kind of thought I had in mind when I started the thread. I almost put "exposed" in the thread title - but couldn't think of a way of succinctly putting it that didn't come off sounding X-rated. LOL Several other things have been mentioned - I really expected there would be more money related items mentioned, but in any case, it just seems the racial issues just sort of took off with a life of their own.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 5, 2012 9:49:21 GMT -5
If you look at the world and everything in it as a traveller and not as a tourist you will be doing just fine.
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Post by movingforward on Sept 5, 2012 9:50:55 GMT -5
If you look at the world and everything in it as a traveller and not as a tourist you will be doing just fine.
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