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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2012 10:13:59 GMT -5
However, it is no more a bigger waste of time than me sitting here giving my opinion. And, i do think girls and women are more into Facebook as well. JUST MY OPINION. YMMV.
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Post by shanendoah on Jun 15, 2012 10:17:03 GMT -5
Drama: I have bad hand/eye coordination and terrible spacial awareness. If there's not a map in an upper corner telling me what direction I need to go, I get utterly turned around and lost in video games. Just the other night, DH handed me the PS3 controller for Flower- this is supposed to be a fun, relaxing game where you turn the controller for direction (instead of pressing an arrow button) nad then press another button to move fast. It is supposed to be a very zen game (according to all the video game reviewers). It was terribly frustrating to me becuase I had a hard time getting the thing to turn where I wanted it to, and I kept getting lost and couldn't figure out where I still needed to go...
*smacks self* This is NOT a video game thread. Video games do not make a spouse useless around the house. They do not make children useless around the house. They are a hobby, just like any other hobby. The only kids not doing chores because of video games are kids whose parents wouldn't make them do chores regardless.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2012 10:24:46 GMT -5
I like video games but haven't had the mental energy to invest in them anymore. Between work, my growing pumpkin, and the new house, I'm POOPED!
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Post by sheilaincali on Jun 15, 2012 10:45:08 GMT -5
I have a 14 year old boy and he will pull the "Gunner's mom doesn't make him do xyz" card whenever he thinks he can get away with it. He tends to forget that I know Gunner's mom and I have her phone number and we do compare notes . We have it worked out between the Moms that he and his two best friends have nearly identical chore lists and the boys can't pull the "he doesn't have to xyz" trick. Being a mom is all about the sneaky ;D
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Post by resolution on Jun 15, 2012 11:05:25 GMT -5
Back in the '70s my neighbors raised their boy to be useless, long before video games were available. He actually turned out better than he should have, given his upbringing. His little sister had to do the dishes, clean and pull weeds because she was a girl and he had to do nothing because he was a boy. I used to come over and help her so she could go outside and play with me. He would help with the weeds when his parents weren't looking but no way to help inside the house because they were always there.
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Post by Firebird on Jun 15, 2012 11:20:28 GMT -5
My opinion is my opinion. And, i believe boys are more drawn to gaming and are much fascinated with it than are girls. That is my opinion.
Do you have girls to compare with, or only boys?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2012 11:25:47 GMT -5
Let's just say that her opinion that boys and girls should be treated differently goes beyond video games.
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Post by tloonya on Jun 15, 2012 13:17:12 GMT -5
I would think she could unload the dishwasher at some point during the dayMy lazy ass brother put in two dishwashers in his house so he would never have to put away dishes. Takes dishes out of the clean one to use and puts them in the dirty one. When the dirty one is full he runs it and starts all over again. The two dishwashers is just the height of his laziness. Was so bad his wife did leave him and file for divorce. Leaving this guy was a big mistake of her life! She had not deserved him...He is probably going to invent something soon and become a millioner! There she is going to cry!
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Post by sheilaincali on Jun 15, 2012 13:54:17 GMT -5
Loony- you don't know my brother. A big day for him is to haul himself over to my parents house and sit on their couch and watch tv. He isn't inventing anything except a new method for putting ass dents in a couch.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 15, 2012 13:56:52 GMT -5
While I am horrible at playing htem I am into some of DH's games as much as he is. I am just as eager as he is to see where Assassin's Creed goes from here. I am also hoping for a God of War IV.
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Post by shanendoah on Jun 15, 2012 14:03:59 GMT -5
Drama: I want a sequel to LA Story, and I love watching DH play Fable. Sometimes I tell him what choices to make, and he knows he doesn't have any choice but to do what I say.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 15, 2012 14:06:47 GMT -5
I freaked DH when he was playing Hitman and he couldn't figure out how to get past the guards. I told him to kill the guard in the back with the wire, hide the body behind the dumpster, take his uniform and then walk past the two gaurds into the door he needed to enter. It worked. He scooted farther down the couch away from me. He said that should not have come to me that easily.
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Post by Apple on Jun 15, 2012 14:27:16 GMT -5
Sheila--your brother does sound lazy, but damn, the two dishwasher thing is genius!! (note: I don't have a dishwasher)
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Post by tloonya on Jun 15, 2012 15:36:26 GMT -5
Loony- you don't know my brother. A big day for him is to haul himself over to my parents house and sit on their couch and watch tv. He isn't inventing anything except a new method for putting ass dents in a couch. I am always wondering HOW are these people getting it going for them? If I wanted to sit on a couch and do nothing - I would die from starvation or I will lost the couch because I will lose the house or all together! I think the blame is on those who LET them bums to be bums! There is no way this bum will sit on the couch if no one will feed his face...is there?
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Jun 15, 2012 17:00:19 GMT -5
...:::"To me, caring about me means doing your share of chores and working together to make our home nice and working together to get all the "stuff of life" done. And, doing so in a helpful, self starting way so as not to turn us into "nags" or make us just give up thinking it won't get done anyway.":::...
To me, that is only HALF the issue. Based on what you said, if DW has an unreasonable "yesterday is already too late" timeline, then of course she is goign to think that she has to nag and that nothing is going to get done anyway. Maybe I already WAS working to get the "stuff of life" done, and she just has an unreasonable idea of how long something takes, and what pace I am willing to work at.
I think the better reply was that both parts have to give. Otherwise, I could just keep working harder and harder and harder, and still never measure up.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Jun 15, 2012 17:09:19 GMT -5
...:::"...some 40something Man was talking about how he beat so many levels of certain games and on and on. And, i thought, what a waste of time and how pathetic and glad i am not married to him!":::...
Maybe he got so sick of never measuring up to someone's unreasonable expectations, that he said "heck with it" and started enjoying himself?
...:::"He has certain ideals on what the house should look like (Better Homes and Gardens would be a good example) but we actually LIVE in it so it is not going to look like a photo shoot even on it's best day!":::...
I'm so glad you "get" this. My DW seems not to realize that its impractical to expect "magazine clean" when we live there. Of course her attitude is that I should just spend more time cleaning after every thing I do.
...:::"I have a 14 year old boy and he will pull the "Gunner's mom doesn't make him do xyz" card whenever he thinks he can get away with it.":::...
Hahahaha, DW tried the "so and so gets this" once and only once. All I had to do was point out what so and so GIVES. Cleared things RIGHT up.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jun 15, 2012 23:29:19 GMT -5
Milee--Your post hit really close to home!
I have no idea why I allowed our relationship to get off to such uneven footing when it came to housework, (my parents certainly didn't model anything like that). By the time I realized how bad things were dh was in school and working part-time, and eventually doing both full time. Even though I worked the same amount of house as he was putting in between 1-3 jobs, I just felt like I had to keep up on the housework since he couldn't be expected to do more than he already was.
Honestly if he hadn't brought home so many damn animals it probably wouldn't have been an issue. Every new one came with promises of scooped litter boxes, and vacuuming, but it never lasted more than a day or so and I just picked up more. He knows how serious I am when I say that there will never be another pet in this house, and he is finally starting to understand why after 12 years of that crap I have a hard time enjoying our animals at all anymore.
I will say that he stepped up his household help 100% when we had ds, and he did it on his own. He wanted to make sure that our kids never saw man's work or woman's work. But again because of the animals, him stepping up 100%, when workload also went up 150% wasn't enough. We had to do counseling, and things are improving... but slowly. I know we'll never be 100% on the same page, but if we could just both be reading the same book we might get somewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2012 2:39:06 GMT -5
When doing laundry, I've always started the water, added detergent and then put the clothes in... Apparently that's the right way. Putting in the clothes, then adding detergent, then turning on the water causes baby kittens to die. What does it say about me that sometimes I add the detergent before....and sometimes I add it after? It really depends on the machine. My normal machine (that I won't see for 3 years) I put it in a dispenser, add the clothes, close it, turn it on...and then it dispenses the water and detergent. I seriously have never thought about the right way to add detergent....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2012 6:56:33 GMT -5
Let's just say that her opinion that boys and girls should be treated differently goes beyond video games. That has nothing to do with anything and an unneccessary comment and also inaccurate as well. But, nonetheless, i do have a daughter and her and her friends couldn't care less about video games. They play the Wii on occassion. The Wii does not seem to elicit the same passion as does Xbox. My sons and their friends absolutely LOVE Xbox. That is a difference that i observe. That isn't "good or bad", it just is what it is.
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Post by milee on Jun 16, 2012 7:19:29 GMT -5
Raeoflyte - sending you some good vibes and a Karma for hanging in there and making it work.
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Post by qofcc on Jun 16, 2012 7:49:48 GMT -5
I seriously have never thought about the right way to add detergent....
My washer is a front loader. Detergent goes in the cup and the machine dilutes it and inserts it as the water fills. There's only one way it CAN be done. It never occured to me that people argue about adding detergerget.
DH has a "right" way (HIS way) to do most everything. It used to drive me insane when he would tell me how I'm supposed to be washing the dishes or cleaning the bathroom or vacuuming or whatever because I was trying very hard to please him because I was grateful he married me but I hate constant criticisim and it really makes me want to run away not stay and fight about it. My dad was like that. I remember him making me cry when I was 5 and helping my mom clip coupons having great fun folding and tearing the paper and dad insided I had to find the perferated lines and unperferate them. These days I just tell both of them if I'm doing it, this is how it's getting done and if they don't like it, they can do it themselves.
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Post by zibazinski on Jun 16, 2012 9:22:43 GMT -5
The right way via mom and grandma was to run the water, put in the soap, and then add the clothes. It made sense because the laundry soap could get on your clothes and mess with them. Like leave blue junk. But I wasn't always sure how much clothes could go in so I put the clothes in, ran the water and then added stuff while it was in the water and shut the lid quick. Now I buy clear stuff and have a front loader so it doesn't matter. But my next set, which I have picked out, are top loaders again but I bet they do the soap for you as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2012 9:43:13 GMT -5
As long as the laundry is getting done in one form or another, i won't complain either way!
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Jun 16, 2012 10:08:43 GMT -5
I've had both top-loader and front-loader machines. (My current one is a front-loader). I use only clear liquid laundry soap in it, and I use less than I would with a top-loader - because the machine uses less water, and the liquid detergent is more concentrated. Plus, the front-load machines don't have an agitator, like a top-load - so the machines gently tumble the clothes as they wash instead of churning them around. If you use too much detergent, it won't rinse out of the garments as well.
[The front-load machines are also more energy-efficient due to less water consumption].
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Post by tloonya on Jun 16, 2012 11:39:37 GMT -5
I am soooooooo surprised at all of you about loading a washer! Clothes goes first and you run water on them so it getting soaked itself instead of floating on top of the water etc... Then you take a cup of the detergent and hold it under running water so it gets dilited and distributed evenly on your wet clothes. I do not understand HOW do you drown your clothes if your washer is full of water?
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Post by tloonya on Jun 16, 2012 11:55:36 GMT -5
[quote author=qofcc board=offtopic thread=23759 post=1096106 time=1339850988 I was grateful he married me [/quote]
This is our answer to all of the question!!!!!!!!! Woman is greatfull to a man for marrying her!!! He is her...owner. She is his thing...and as long as woman will feel this way - she will do all the work and he will be a bum! OR he was born with 2 left hands and it is dangerous for the family to let him do the work!
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Post by quotequeen on Jun 16, 2012 13:35:28 GMT -5
But, as a form of fun, i see nothing wrong with it and i like to play with them too as well. But you know that the 40 year old man in the store wasn't just doing it as a form of fun and is instead a pathetic waste of space.... how?
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Post by qofcc on Jun 17, 2012 8:41:10 GMT -5
This is our answer to all of the question!!!!!!!!! Woman is greatfull to a man for marrying her!!! He is her...owner. She is his thing...and as long as woman will feel this way - she will do all the work and he will be a bum!
Didn't say he was a bum, didn't say he's useless and I certainly don't do all of the physical labor around the house. I do all the girl stuff (cleaning, most of the cooking, shopping, landscaping, decorating) and take care of the finances. He does all the guy stuff (auto and home maintenance, cutting the grass, shoveling snow and taking out the garbage). I have no issues with the division of household chores, I just don't want to be told how to do my share and he's gotten better at not telling me how to do things since I've started yelling at him instead when he does it instead of trying to hold all of the anger inside.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2012 8:45:29 GMT -5
But, as a form of fun, i see nothing wrong with it and i like to play with them too as well. But you know that the 40 year old man in the store wasn't just doing it as a form of fun and is instead a pathetic waste of space.... how? The same way anyone else on this board "knows" things and makes their numerous judgements including seeming to "know" what i think about "boys versus girls" and everything else!!
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