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Post by billisonboard on Jan 17, 2011 9:53:40 GMT -5
So it looks like we all agree.... We all want Lakhota on.... Keep his posts at the top of the message board.... It helps people understand the thought process and the hypocrisy of the liberal left. rockon, Unfortunately I think you are too correct here. The only thing I would add is "the thought process and the hypocrisy of (too many) of the liberal left." |
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Post by rockon on Jan 17, 2011 10:02:07 GMT -5
Well I could add that there is plenty of hypocrisy from many on the right as well. I wish we could have good objective debate on this forum with out being tagged as "Left" or "Right" because I consider myself neither. Primarily interested in fixing some our countries problems so my children can grow up in a country that was as great as the one I grew up in.
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Post by bga4444 on Jan 17, 2011 10:14:41 GMT -5
Sean Hannity is a entertainer, a talk show host..... Period!
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 17, 2011 11:10:10 GMT -5
There is a cancer beginning to grow on the Poltics and the Markets MSN Money Board refugees message board that could very well ruin it by turning off many of the members with so much left wing hate speech here...that they will just leave... That's exactly what we liberals thought about the old P&M board. And now look at it-it's dead. Funny that. |
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Post by privateinvestor on Jan 17, 2011 11:13:35 GMT -5
There is a cancer beginning to grow on the Poltics and the Markets MSN Money Board refugees message board that could very well ruin it by turning off many of the members with so much left wing hate speech here...that they will just leave... That's exactly what we liberals thought about the old P&M board. And now look at it-it's dead. Funny that. Yea because you ruined it and are now overjoyed with your hollow victory |
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Post by marjar on Jan 17, 2011 11:18:40 GMT -5
If some of you want a board that is strictly conservative, start a closed board. For all the complaints about this board and the liberal presence, I don't see any of the conservatives making the effort to establish their own closed community. Instead, I see a great deal of complaining about the perceived direction the board appears to lean.
Oh, the irony!
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Post by privateinvestor on Jan 17, 2011 11:22:09 GMT -5
Oh, the irony!
I don't think there is any complaining but rather just questioning why is Lakhota starting so many divisive threads that are just more of the same tired old left wing media hit pieces and cut and paste from mainly the Huffington Post and ThinkProgress... ??
We should have better/ higher and more substantive discussions i.e health care reform, tax system overhaul instead of just a thread that lambastes Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh or Sarah Palin.....that to me is just a waste of space and btw I am NOT a conservative nor a Republican...cannot afford that way of life much too expensive.
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Post by marjar on Jan 17, 2011 11:25:16 GMT -5
If some of you want a board that is strictly conservative, start a closed board. For all the complaints about this board and the liberal presence, I don't see any of the conservatives making the effort to establish their own closed community. Instead, I see a great deal of complaining about the perceived direction the board appears to lean. Oh, the irony! I don't think there is any complaining but rather just questioning why is Lakhota starting so many divisive threads that are just more of the same tired old left wing media hit pieces and cut and paste from mainly the Huffington Post ?? Maybe he is trying to facilitate dialogue, pique interest, and generate conversation. Controversy is usually good for all of the above. |
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Post by rockon on Jan 17, 2011 11:25:26 GMT -5
No...No...No... Keep this board and it's posters, it should do nothing but encourage more people to become independent of the current two party system. Reading the posts from the extreme right and left only help make it clear how we got into the mess we are in.
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Post by rockon on Jan 17, 2011 11:28:17 GMT -5
One should note that disagreeing or pointing out hypocrisies is not complaining about ones right to post.
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Post by marjar on Jan 17, 2011 11:31:48 GMT -5
I am going to disagree. I've seen a great deal of complaining on the board, about the board, and most of it is petty nonsense.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jan 17, 2011 11:32:29 GMT -5
I always thought that one starts a thread here to have meaningfull discussions about Politics or the Markets which will expand our moral imagination by the most challenging topics that confront us today...not left wing fluff with taunting, heckling, and harassing by those who do that sort of thing as a second job..
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Post by privateinvestor on Jan 17, 2011 11:33:35 GMT -5
P.I.- you don't need to read them.
I usually don't but we are getting saturated with them now @ 12 of @20 threads started by Lakhota recently were just cut and paste liberal media attack articles....mostly a lot of misinformation aimed to discredit anyone on the right of that warped thinking.
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Post by marjar on Jan 17, 2011 11:34:37 GMT -5
I always thought that one starts a thread here to have meaningfull discussions about Politics or the Markets which will expand our moral imagination by the most challenging topics that confront us today...not left wing fluff with taunting, heckling, and harassing by those who do that sort of thing as a second job.. I'm not going to enter a contest over this. It is about perception and folks obviously differ in their perceptions. Fair enough. If you don't like the posts, don't read them. Easy enough! |
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Post by privateinvestor on Jan 17, 2011 11:37:39 GMT -5
Ok but fair warning to the Mods where are you going to let Lakhota control all of the discourse and be a conduit for the Huffington Post and Think Progress??? I am just trying to point out what can happen here now that the MSN P&M Message Board is defunct.. Or do Mods like Tennesseer and Deminmaine actually enjoy seeing all of the Huffington Post and Think Progress articles reposted on this board?? If that is your thing?  Then what other choice do we have but to warn others that this board could go down the toilet if it is saturated with that nonsense.. |
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Post by marjar on Jan 17, 2011 11:41:13 GMT -5
Maybe some sort of agreement can be reached limiting the number of new threads, per day, of this nature and by an individual poster. Also, instead of cutting a pasting an entire article, an excerpt can be posted with a link to the article. Keeping in mind this would apply to both sides of the fence.
Just some suggestions to try and keep everybody happy.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jan 17, 2011 11:42:19 GMT -5
Maybe some sort of agreement can be reached limiting the number of new threads, per day, of this nature and by an individual poster. Also, instead of cutting a pasting an entire article, an except can be posted with a link to the article. Keeping in mind this would apply to both sides of the fence. Just some suggestions to try and keep everybody happy. If you try to limit Lakhota again he will just exceed the limits place on him out of spite and vendictiveness...as he did before and those of us who think his stuff is garbage have our comments deleted or are banned...which is beginning to happen here already |
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 17, 2011 11:46:48 GMT -5
P.I.-what is stopping you from initiating your own threads?
You want discussion other than what Lakhota is posting? Start your own thread.
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Post by marjar on Jan 17, 2011 11:48:17 GMT -5
Maybe some sort of agreement can be reached limiting the number of new threads, per day, of this nature and by an individual poster. Also, instead of cutting a pasting an entire article, an except can be posted with a link to the article. Keeping in mind this would apply to both sides of the fence. Just some suggestions to try and keep everybody happy. If you try to limit Lakhota again he will just exceed the limits place on him out of spite and vendictiveness...as he did before and those of us who think his stuff is garbage have our comments deleted or are banned...which is beginning to happen here already Perception. I don't think Lak is being vindictive. I'd rather try and be part of the solution, than part of the problem. Have a good day! |
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Post by privateinvestor on Jan 17, 2011 11:49:44 GMT -5
[quote author=tennesseer board=politics thread=1733 post=65260 time=1295282808]P.I.-what is stopping you from initiating your own threads?
You want discussion other than what Lakhota is posting? Start your own thread.[/quote][/b]
You are missing the point of this discussion which is what is the purpose Lakhota 's threads other than just arouse a lot of acrimony and disinformation ad nauseum.
And with two liberal or progressive poltical Mods here. I think that those who don't agree with Lakhota are being subjected to taunting or told to just go away by you Liberal Mods who really want to control this message board which is becoming apparent to me and other who have voiced out opinions on this issue to Moonbeam after our comments were deleted and we were banned for speaking out on this issue.
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Post by marjar on Jan 17, 2011 11:51:15 GMT -5
[ quote author=tennesseer board=politics thread=1733 post=65260 time=1295282808]P.I.-what is stopping you from initiating your own threads?
You want discussion other than what Lakhota is posting? Start your own thread.[/b] You are missing the point of this discussion which is what is the purpose Lakhota 's threads? [/quote] Disseminating information, putting forth ideas for discussion, generating interest in the board, etc. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 17, 2011 11:51:52 GMT -5
Don't bother reading Lakhota's threads P.I. Skip over them.
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Post by rockon on Jan 17, 2011 11:52:07 GMT -5
I can see the point being made by P.I. but at the same time seeing and reading these posts only make it so obvious how misdirected the thinking is from some of these people who write these articles. I prefer to read and hear both sides of the argument and have hope that some conversions will take place when the subject is debated and it becomes clear that many of their arguments have been tried and are still being tried in Europe and other places with out success and that we were the most successful country in modern history when we fought for freedom from oppressive government. Where else can you refute an article from the Huff in public forum? Just don't want to hear them complaining about FOX news or Rush or anyone else who choices to voice an opinion.
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Post by marjar on Jan 17, 2011 11:54:09 GMT -5
Many years ago, I was a paid mod on a very controversial board. Yeppers, they actually paid me to do that stuff.
Part of the job was to generate interest, provide information, promote discussion, and generally keep people awake and motivated to post.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jan 17, 2011 11:59:00 GMT -5
Don't bother reading Lakhota's threads P.I. Skip over them. I never read any of his garbage but can't help but notice all the thread he starts with the same or similar themes...left wing attack pieces ad nauseum...and I am not the only one trying to point this out but seem to be getting nowhere because of your biases and your new found love of the ban key I also think banning a member here for objections to some left wing nonsense and for no good reason crossed the line of common decency and respect...something that is lacking here big time and can ruin a board which has happened before. BTW...here's just six of many sick and twisted threads, and are examples of just pure garbage and trashing this message board: 1. Is Sean Hannity Insane 2... Modern Class Warfare 3....Alaskan Speak 4.... Can Sarah Palin be Sued 5... Limbaugh says Laughner Has Full Support of the Dem Party 6. .. Let's Get This Straight |
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Post by burnsattornincan on Jan 17, 2011 12:19:43 GMT -5
Mr. P.I., you are still on retainer in my books. Please let me know if you need any further guidance.
< Rules, regulations and expectations have complicated our lives. You can suppress two of those. Give your gorgeous co-worker a ride, home, after that rip'n office party before sliding into bed with your wife. You know who to call. >
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Post by traelin0 on Jan 17, 2011 12:21:08 GMT -5
Ok but fair warning to the Mods where are you going to let Lakhota control all of the discourse and be a conduit for the Huffington Post and Think Progress???
I am just trying to point out what can happen here now that the MSN P&M Message Board is defunct..
Or do Mods like Tennesseer and Deminmaine actually enjoy seeing all of the Huffington Post and Think Progress articles reposted on this board??
If that is your thing? Then what other choice do we have but to warn others that this board could go down the toilet if it is saturated with that nonsense.. PI, if I may interject really quick. I vehemently disagree with Lakhota on just about everything. I also think some of the threads are borderline baits and contain unsubstantive personal attacks from the *authors* of the articles. With that being said, I just ignore most of what he posts, and post my own stuff. Lakhota is the left's version of Marshabar, without the images. Marsha is free to do the same thing here as Lakhota as far as I'm concerned. I am not into stifling one's ability to vent, and so long as the CoC is obeyed, that's all that matters IMHO. |
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Post by privateinvestor on Jan 17, 2011 12:23:43 GMT -5
I just ignore most of what he posts, and post my own stuff.
I try also to do the exact same thing but Lakhota's threads will dominate this message board now that he doesn't have the MSN Message Board and I am merely pointing out this message board will be ruined by so much trash talking media hit pieces that will lead to nowhere fast...
His threads have become a harbinger for taunting, heckling and personal insults if you scan through the six I listed above in reply #59
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Post by sesfw on Jan 17, 2011 12:32:27 GMT -5
If you don't like listening to Hannity, find another station.
If you don't like listening to a rant, walk away.
If a liberal gets in your face, confuse them with facts and common sense.
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Post by traelin0 on Jan 17, 2011 12:34:10 GMT -5
I try also to do the exact same thing but Lakhota's threads will dominate this message board now that he doesn't have the MSN Message Board and I am merely pointing out this message board will be ruined by so much trash talking media hit pieces that will lead to nowhere fast... PI, if I may present an alternative view of things. I remember Howard Stern's ratings at WNBC were driven by those who wanted to see what he'd say next -- from both the lovers AND detractors of his message. Sex sells. With that being said, I find most of the articles to be vitriolic personal attack ads, but on PUBLIC figures, that are devoid of reasoning. Just look at the titles of the articles from those websites. HOWEVER: Note that almost all of Lakhota's posts do NOT involve him attacking people personally; rather, it's the other posters attacking each other. THAT is where the problems lay, IMHO. If I may also present another idea...get Marsha to post over here, and so long as she doesn't attack anyone personally, you may like the results. |
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Then what other choice do we have but to warn others that this board could go down the toilet if it is saturated with that nonsense..
