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Post by roygrip on Feb 24, 2012 16:13:48 GMT -5
Good morning all (and Hi Naggie!) <<<waves>>> I texted DD yesterday and it bounced back. It appears she's blocked me for the time being. I'm trying not to take it personally or worry about it (yeah right, like that's going to work).... [Sigh] Kids these days.... Ain't thata a fact ( ;D) My daughter (32) told me "Don't send me any flowers for Valetines day dad" "The new boyfriend feels like your competing!" (so instead of saying that's his problem, I complied) (Been sending flowers for the last 3 yrs since she broke up with the last longterm relationship.) Sooooooo! She complained to mom that I didn't love her cause I didn't send her roses this year! YIKES!  |
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Post by suek1958 on Feb 25, 2012 8:28:27 GMT -5
LMAO!!!  Roy, yer damned if ya do and damned if ya don't! ;D I can see why men say they'll never figure women out LOL!! Daphne, I've been trying to call my son for over 2 weeks and all I get is voice-mail!  His dad said Ya, I know, I told him several times, he needs to charge his phone! I wanted to take DS out for breakfast, but he was sleeping, so I guess he's back on his night-owl schedule.  Jake, how's your weekend going? and how did it go with the recruiter? |
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Post by Jake 48 on Feb 25, 2012 8:51:45 GMT -5
Good morning Suek, DSD is still doing release forms for NG to obtain information, based on ASVAB scores she is fitting in with the " intelligence community posistions" So what I find funny is "DSD and intelligence used in the same sentence" . DSD does not see the humor, it is the little things in life that amuse me. Daphne and Suek, kids will come around and when they do lay some guilt on them  |
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Post by roygrip on Feb 25, 2012 9:56:20 GMT -5
LMAO!!! Roy, yer damned if ya do and damned if ya don't! ;D I can see why men say they'll never figure women out LOL!! Daphne, I've been trying to call my son for over 2 weeks and all I get is voice-mail! His dad said Ya, I know, I told him several times, he needs to charge his phone! I wanted to take DS out for breakfast, but he was sleeping, so I guess he's back on his night-owl schedule. Jake, how's your weekend going? and how did it go with the recruiter? I've been married for 32 yrs, half the time I say "How did she put up with me?" The other half I scratch my head and just look up at the sky and say "Why Lord! Why me! What have I done to deserve this!" LOL!  |
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Post by roygrip on Feb 25, 2012 9:57:43 GMT -5
Good morning Suek, DSD is still doing release forms for NG to obtain information, based on ASVAB scores she is fitting in with the " intelligence community posistions" So what I find funny is "DSD and intelligence used in the same sentence" . DSD does not see the humor, it is the little things in life that amuse me. Daphne and Suek, kids will come around and when they do lay some guilt on them Oh I so relate! Live long enough to be a pain in da azz to your kids! |
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Post by Jake 48 on Feb 25, 2012 10:23:50 GMT -5
"I've been married for 32 yrs, half the time I say "How did she put up with me?" The other half I scratch my head and just look up at the sky and say "Why Lord! Why me! What have I done to deserve this!" LOL! [/quote]" I'm convinced in another life I did something really bad, I was the guy who pounded the nails into Jesus and that my life now is payback  |
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Post by roygrip on Feb 25, 2012 21:25:31 GMT -5
We need more Drs like this! Good job!
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Post by roygrip on Feb 25, 2012 21:26:35 GMT -5
"I've been married for 32 yrs, half the time I say "How did she put up with me?" The other half I scratch my head and just look up at the sky and say "Why Lord! Why me! What have I done to deserve this!" LOL! " I'm convinced in another life I did something really bad, I was the guy who pounded the nails into Jesus and that my life now is payback [/quote] Therefore I musta been holdin' them nails for ya ;D |
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Post by roygrip on Feb 25, 2012 21:35:49 GMT -5
"The Creator was responsible for the existence of everything, a part of the Creator's spirit exists in everything and thus all things are connected."
--Larry P. Aitken, CHIPPEWA
The Creator designed nature, people, and all things as an interconnected system. Everything is connected to each other. This connection exists in the Unseen World. The same way our body parts are all port of the body - the parts are separate but also connected. If a part of our body is in pain, the rest of the body recognizes this pain as its own. In other words, the pain of one is the pain of all. This is also true of every interconnected system. Because we are connected, we should respect and take care of our Earth and each other.
Great Spirit, let me treat everyone, today, as if they were You
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Post by roygrip on Feb 26, 2012 8:57:42 GMT -5
My sponsor's sponsor (my grand sponsor) on his 35 year clean sober: i have wrestled with these nightmares for a long time,and its only been through this program and a loving God that has helped me find some redemption in the last 35 years,reaching out to other addicts just like me,my altar-ego's in the jail that i understand so well,and reach out,telling them they dont have to live like this anymore,theres a better way of living...... ......... ......... ..... I always pray that in my lifetime that i reach just 1 addict so that he can find his way home and reclaim his life,the way it should have been,to be the person that they always wanted to be.......... ......... ........ it is so vital that this message of hope reaches those that need to hear it,to be able to tell the families and wives and husbands,children, grandparents, they"re prayers have been answered and there is now a way and a dream fulfilled,so that the tears are those of joy,not sorrow,the path of healing and reunification have begun,and the joy of living and loving will bring them back together again....... ......... the dream comes true for all of us.......... This is what recovery is all about! |
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Post by roygrip on Feb 29, 2012 6:55:42 GMT -5
Good job Daphne! Mine gets longer |
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Post by suek1958 on Feb 29, 2012 17:40:21 GMT -5
Good afternoon everyone! Nothing new here, except we got 4-5 inches of really wet snow last night a big branch came down in my yard and all area schools cancelled. And my boss said I didn't have to come in I was glad- it was only a 4 hr day anyway, and I couldn't have dug out my driveway in time. Roy, I heard Gabor Mate on Public radio a couple years ago, I was fascinated! I looked him up online when I got home. Thanks for reminding me!  |
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Post by roygrip on Feb 29, 2012 21:56:32 GMT -5
Suek, he is a very well educated man on the suject of addictions. Glad I reminded you |
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Post by roygrip on Mar 2, 2012 8:20:57 GMT -5
Roy, listening to Dr. Mate, it makes me wonder... what childhood trauma happened to my son? Our divorce when he was 6.5 yrs old? His dad was violent sometimes... was there something I didn't know about??  Of course it's only speculation, but most certainly the divorce for a 6.5 yr old was traumatic. My wifes parents divorced at 10. We can directly relate her "acting out" to starting right about then, which followed into drugs at 15, etc etc. It is a factor in addiction stories. Mind you not all, and each case has to be looked at singularly, but if you look at statistics, some factors across the board are low self esteem, then acting out. So how did the addict aquire the low self esteem? My wifes case (she's in recovery too) was the divorce triggered her thinking it was her fault (this came out in therapy. In my case low self esteem triggered my acting out, in therapy we figured it started from the fact I was adopted. (even though I was loved by my parents) I had abandonment issues early on. Now the violence could be a whole different thing? These are all possible, you'll know when he goes thru therapy (if he does) It's not a prerequisite to his figuring it out. |
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Post by roygrip on Mar 2, 2012 22:10:20 GMT -5
Enjoy Daphne!
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Post by Jake 48 on Mar 3, 2012 18:34:15 GMT -5
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Post by roygrip on Mar 3, 2012 20:11:11 GMT -5
Wow, Daphne! 12 inches of snow! I feel lucky we only got 4! One good thing tho- the snow melts pretty fast this time of year It was nice to see you last night Thanks, Roy, for your post. I do remember one thing... before we actually separated, we were 'planning' it. At the supper table one evening, I decided to gently start letting DS know what was going on. He was 6 yrs old, and he was a gentle little boy, not a tough kid, kwim? He still liked me to rock him before bed sometimes, and he slept with about 40 stuffed animals surrounding him. I was a stay at home mom, but had recently taken a PT job. Anyway, we told him that we might be getting divorced, and asked him if he knew what that meant. He said, 'Yes, it means you live in a house, and Daddy lives in a different house.' Then he started crying  We asked why he was crying and he asked, "Do I have to live here, all by myself??" I was heartbroken! To think how confused and scared he was  poor lil guy... omg, now I'm starting to feel guilty for ruining his life You didn't ruin his life! Obviously there are reasons you and your ex are not together. Imagine what would of happened if you were still together. Life moves on, each of us are defined by those experiences and how we cope and learn. I could say I wish this happen or that happened. But my experiences both good and bad made me who I am today. No I wouldn't change them. You CANNOT blame your self. Life shows up and happens. We each hopefully do the best we can for our kids, that's it! |
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Post by roygrip on Mar 3, 2012 20:11:44 GMT -5
Hi Jake!
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Post by suek1958 on Mar 3, 2012 23:23:57 GMT -5
Thank you, Roy. I will keep in mind what you said HI Jake! How goes it? I've just been thinking and venting......   |
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Post by roygrip on Mar 4, 2012 11:05:55 GMT -5
Thank you, Roy. I will keep in mind what you said HI Jake! How goes it? I've just been thinking and venting...... And please continue to do so. We do not know all the answers are selves, but collectively we have a better idea by sounding off others. I was not the person posting here 20 yrs ago, even 15 yrs ago. I was wound up in a delusional world of alcohol and drugs. I've learned by asking questions and being open to the ideas of others. If I think it's cool, but five other people tell me "no it's not" Maybe there's something wrong with my thinking. |
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Post by Jake 48 on Mar 4, 2012 12:21:52 GMT -5
[quote I didn't make a meeting this weekend and I feel a bit guilty about it. But I'm in a pretty good place so I'm not going to beat myself up. [/quote] Daphne, I have this problem w/ DSD, she beats herself up over not getting to a meeting. My advice to her has been " meetings are important however, meetings are not your life but part of your life" IMO it is not practical/possible to attend meetings 7 days a week. you have to balance family, work etc.. and apply the principles of sobriety in your everyday life and your interactions with others |
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Post by roygrip on Mar 4, 2012 22:39:21 GMT -5
[quote I didn't make a meeting this weekend and I feel a bit guilty about it. But I'm in a pretty good place so I'm not going to beat myself up. Daphne, I have this problem w/ DSD, she beats herself up over not getting to a meeting. My advice to her has been " meetings are important however, meetings are not your life but part of your life" IMO it is not practical/possible to attend meetings 7 days a week. you have to balance family, work etc.. and apply the principles of sobriety in your everyday life and your interactions with others [/quote]   |
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Post by kent on Mar 7, 2012 11:46:33 GMT -5
Not meaning to "jar" anyone's thought process relative to alcohol consumption and attendant "denial" issues but......last night I was watching a show on TV and and the comment was made that, like the tobacco user never knows which cigarette triggers cancer, the alcohol user doesn't know which drink will trigger chirrosis of the liver. This is meant to be positive reinforcement, not criticism. Just something to think about should you be going through a bit of a "tough" spot on your road to recovery. |
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Post by roygrip on Mar 8, 2012 7:31:49 GMT -5
Not meaning to "jar" anyone's thought process relative to alcohol consumption and attendant "denial" issues but......last night I was watching a show on TV and and the comment was made that, like the tobacco user never knows which cigarette triggers cancer, the alcohol user doesn't know which drink will trigger chirrosis of the liver. This is meant to be positive reinforcement, not criticism. Just something to think about should you be going through a bit of a "tough" spot on your road to recovery. ;D |
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Post by Jake 48 on Mar 9, 2012 9:39:25 GMT -5
Daphne, trucks are cool, car payments suck, good luck with your new ride!!  what did you buy? |
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Post by Jake 48 on Mar 9, 2012 9:41:45 GMT -5
Suek, it seems to be taking a long time w/ the NG, they have contacted her references, she went and saw the recruiter again yesterday, have not had a chance to ask her on the progress |
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Post by kimber45 on Mar 9, 2012 12:00:10 GMT -5
The sunny and warmer days and snow melting are helping get me out of my winter blahs
I'm hoping for some of that this weekend, we are supposed to get into the 40's with near 60 next week
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Post by roygrip on Mar 10, 2012 9:10:12 GMT -5
So Daphne you got a GREEN truck I take it? Suek, just WORK, WORK, WORK. It's nearing the end of the season for my two shows so we ramp it up! Jake, sometimes no news is good news! Kimber, sunny southern Ca was 78 degrees yesterday! |
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Post by Jake 48 on Mar 10, 2012 9:11:49 GMT -5
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His dad said Ya, I know, I told him several times, he needs to charge his phone! I wanted to take DS out for breakfast, but he was sleeping, so I guess he's back on his night-owl schedule. 
We asked why he was crying and he asked, "Do I have to live here, all by myself??" 
