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Post by smackdown on Aug 4, 2011 11:48:55 GMT -5
This is a great day to find out where you rate in the scheme of this scam. MSN Stock Locator is down. In fact, MSN Money has dropped out several times. It's only noon-ish.
While the frantic and paranoid are buying metals at ridiculous prices, there are alternatives like: DXD. It's already up a lot today and more as we decay. No muss no fuss, just a return as we ride this rail down without a bail.
What's in your wallet? Have you checked lately?
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Post by Small Biz Owner on Aug 4, 2011 11:50:41 GMT -5
I have some IOU's from California.
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Post by smackdown on Aug 4, 2011 11:54:58 GMT -5
Business as usual day for me.
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Post by Small Biz Owner on Aug 4, 2011 12:02:42 GMT -5
Notice the computer generated uptick in buys at the 11,600 point? Looks like that short reversal might be fizzling out about now.....
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Post by maui1 on Aug 4, 2011 12:08:58 GMT -5
11,607.21
-289.23 (-2.43%)
Real-time: 1:06PM EDT
INDEXDJX real-time data - Disclaimer Range 11,523.92 - 11,893.94 52 week 9,936.62 - 12,876.00 Open 11,893.86 Vol. 123.54M
yep .........the 'might' seems very important in your last post
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Post by decoy409 on Aug 4, 2011 12:28:01 GMT -5
You should ask fti about the answer to this thread title,as 2011 debt profits at the casino have been wiped for the year as reported (mintues back).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2011 12:29:04 GMT -5
I am my broker. And no, I am not taking anyone's call.
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Post by usaone on Aug 4, 2011 12:43:57 GMT -5
Good day to buy.  |
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Post by maui1 on Aug 4, 2011 13:10:29 GMT -5
Good day to buy.
i heard this on cnbc this morning..........
two market guys............one says every market in the world is weak and now would not be the time to buy until it plays out and we see direction. the other guys says "Good day to buy".
everyone one on the set just rolled their eyes.........and later in the day (now), the market drops 350 points.....i hope he was not managing anyone's money and bought this morning.
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Post by usaone on Aug 4, 2011 13:12:32 GMT -5
I guess you werent buying at Dow 6K either?
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Post by maui1 on Aug 4, 2011 13:18:59 GMT -5
i didn't.......because i wasn't buying at 14000 either.
i don't like the market, i don't like how it works (doesn't), i don't like how 'dividends' are paid out of the stock price and not out of the companies cash reserves, i don't like how stock and stock options are given to the top managers.....diluting the stock outstanding, i don't like high frequency and dark room trading, i don't like how commissions are paid on every transaction and built into the purchase price for all individual buyers.........must i go on?
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Post by usaone on Aug 4, 2011 14:33:03 GMT -5
Then why are you on a stock market forum every day?
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Post by smackdown on Aug 4, 2011 14:59:20 GMT -5
"Then why are you on a stock market forum every day?"
The forum's name is: MARKET TALK not stock market talk. There are many markets. The stock market is fascinating right now because it's as crooked as money grubbing venues come. Many markets are discussed regularly. Go ahead and buy. We're not recovering anytime soon or ever until there is a huge uptick in hiring, family-sustaining wages, retirement of crisis-thwarting debt and arrests for manipulators.
Here's something for you... National City Bank was a major derivatives investor. Into 2007 it boasted being the 8th largest lender in the world with at least $165 BILLION in assets. When the FDIC force-sold them to PNC in early 2008, the net asset value was a NEGATIVE $5.7 BILLION. That's just one bank in one liquidation scenario involving the stated fantasy-value of assets majorly participating in derivative speculation, as opposed to what's really left after the participant promises and pledges. I would like to point out that Chase, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs have TRILLIONS in derivatives moored to BILLIONS in deposit/investment accounts. They are "insured", of course. the carrier is an investor in those SAME derivatives.
As I said... we won't be bouncing back. I will. I'm not tied to anything tied to any derivative. My commodities are street popular so they are as good as any currency. Stocks are toast. They were, years ago. All the fiat money printing is done.
Why are you on a Tangible Market forum talking up fiat stocks?
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Post by maui1 on Aug 4, 2011 15:02:45 GMT -5
Then why are you on a stock market forum every day?
i am here to help you and yours, from yourselves.
naaaa.......i just like the discussion........i like learning and f--king with you guys. it gives me some insight into what others think, that don't think like i do.
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Post by smackdown on Aug 4, 2011 15:13:00 GMT -5
At this point... TRUE commodity hedging involves buying and storing some quality spaghetti sauce. The tomato crops have taken a beating. If you like spaghetti, you hedge some sauce (not a lot- goes bad). Hedging anything else that isn't something important to you or something you regularly use is not smart right now. Lots of people will make investment mistakes now and listen to brokers out to cover their own losses. Be smart, invest in yourself and your living. It will pay well in the long run.
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Post by frankq on Aug 4, 2011 17:45:51 GMT -5
i didn't.......because i wasn't buying at 14000 either. i don't like the market, i don't like how it works (doesn't), i don't like how 'dividends' are paid out of the stock price and not out of the companies cash reservers, i don't like how stock and stock options are given to the top managers.....diluting the stock outstanding, i don't like high frequency and dark room trading, i don't like how commissions are paid on every transaction and built into the purchase price for all individual buyers.........must i go on? Huh? What? Oh.....Please do. I wasn't sleeping....just resting my eyes. |
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Post by frankq on Aug 4, 2011 17:46:18 GMT -5
Use a broker? How quaint.
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Post by usaone on Aug 4, 2011 18:03:21 GMT -5
Use a broker? How quaint. Ha Ha!!! Days like today separate the mice from the men!! Much lower oil cotton ect Exploding M2 Capitulation Correction in a bull market.  |
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Post by maui1 on Aug 5, 2011 7:38:33 GMT -5
usa- i hope you are right but i don't think you are. do you have stops in your 'investments'? seems that you don't, and that puts you in even more risk, if you are wrong.
the best manager (and money needs to be managed) is one that can admit he is wrong, learn from the mistake, make adjustments, and be able to move on.
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Post by Driftr on Aug 5, 2011 7:43:03 GMT -5
Use a broker? How quaint. :-) My thoughts exactly. |
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Post by smackdown on Aug 5, 2011 9:41:48 GMT -5
"Correction in a bull market."
You'd have to have cash to take advantage of it. The banks don't want hoarding so you'd have to stash it elsewhere. Every "elsewhere" is tanking so the next "Bull" market is just plain "bull". It all goes back into the economy to recover it, whether voluntary or in.
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Post by maui1 on Aug 5, 2011 10:22:38 GMT -5
and brokers give you free trades........come on.....lets not lie to each other......i f--k with you guys but i don't lie to you.........at least not intensionally.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Aug 5, 2011 10:59:10 GMT -5
Use a broker? How quaint. Ha Ha!!! Days like today separate the mice from the men!! Much lower oil cotton ect Exploding M2 Capitulation Correction in a bull market. You mean the fading of a false bull market right? The only reason we are in a bull market is because of all of the trillions of money the fed reserve and treasury has been pumping in to our country and others. When the Feds decide to do another QE or some other program that basically does the same thing, you will see the markets rise. |
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Post by maui1 on Aug 5, 2011 11:03:31 GMT -5
You mean the fading of a false bull market right? The only reason we are in a bull market is because of all of the trillions of money the fed reserve and treasury has been pumping in to our country and others. When the Feds decide to do another QE or some other program that basically does the same thing, you will see the markets rise.
i agree.....but some are happy with standing on a tight rope, hoping to make a little money (if any), before they fall off, making what little money they made, worthless.
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Post by smackdown on Aug 5, 2011 14:47:14 GMT -5
The joke of the day is-- there's a kind-a sort-a maybe proposal to bail Italy and Spain in the works. Obama wants to pay Big Business to hire veterans and train them. One vet remarking on the "job" market said-- "I used to protect convoys with assault weapons to protect my life. Now I can't get businesses to respond to my resumes and I'm hungry. It was easier to defend those convoys, go back to the base and have a good meal."
Chin up soldier, 100 million families are starving right next to you, but a bunch of bed-ridden octogenarians are making a FORTUNE in the markets! Thank you for your service! (The unemployment rate for veterans is 26% today).
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Post by smackdown on Aug 6, 2011 7:46:04 GMT -5
Yesterday's finish was brought to us by a HUGE infux of dark money. Consider how much it takes to swing us all around a 400+ point field and end up on the plus side. If you had BRAINS... you wouldn't have ANY marbles in this lame game of stock play.
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Post by rovo on Aug 6, 2011 12:47:17 GMT -5
Chin up soldier, 100 million families are starving right next to you, but a bunch of bed-ridden octogenarians are making a FORTUNE in the markets! Thank you for your service! (The unemployment rate for veterans is 26% today). Some posters are very loose with the "facts" or else just make them up without knowing much of anything. Let's see .... 100 million families are starving. U.S. population (2010) of about 309 million. Roughly 2.6 people per household / family from 2005-2009 data. 112 million households / families for the same period. So about 119 million households / families as of 2010. The 100 million starving families comment is then shown as a ridiculous statement with about 3 minutes of fact checking. |
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Post by bubblyandblue on Aug 6, 2011 14:00:44 GMT -5
100 million starving families in America is not far off when looking at the USA history and accumilating the starving - anyway its a sad commentary for the richest country on earth.
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Post by smackdown on Aug 6, 2011 21:04:21 GMT -5
"U.S. population (2010) of about 309 million. Roughly 2.6 people per household / family from 2005-2009 data. 112 million households / families for the same period. So about 119 million households / families as of 2010. The 100 million starving families comment is then shown as a ridiculous statement with about 3 minutes of fact checking."
I assume you assume you are right because your family is part of the lucky 19 million? The prevalent working person is single. Can you refute it?
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Post by rovo on Aug 6, 2011 22:25:28 GMT -5
Can I refute your stated fact of 100 million families out of 119 million families in the USA are starving? Sure. I could but only a fool believes something along those lines and there is no convincing a fool.
Maybe you ought to go back to posting on Duff's board if they accept that kind of nonsense as fact.
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