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Post by debtheaven on Jun 26, 2011 15:36:18 GMT -5
Me too Zib! LOL!
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Post by pig on Jun 27, 2011 8:38:17 GMT -5
Well girls, I'm heading to the Caribbean this summer and I'm always looking for a few good women to accompany me.  |
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Post by swamp on Jun 27, 2011 8:43:12 GMT -5
Update: I discussed this with DH again this weekend. He is still adamant DS not go and admitted he does not have a solid articulable reason. I asked DH why he gets the veto power. He told me that I have equivalent veto power, but I have chosen not to exercise it because I'm not neurotic like he is.  I'm not going to fight with him about this, so DS stays home. |
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Post by pig on Jun 27, 2011 8:52:08 GMT -5
You made the right choice.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2011 8:55:55 GMT -5
He told me that I have equivalent veto power, but I have chosen not to exercise it because I'm not neurotic like he is.
umm... what?
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jun 27, 2011 9:00:19 GMT -5
At least he admits he's neurotic? That's good, right? He understands he's in the wrong (or something), right?
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Post by swamp on Jun 27, 2011 9:13:10 GMT -5
Maybe you guys can plan something fun/special as a family. We are going on vacation as a family, and there will be plenty of playing on the river, trips to the park, yadda yadda yadda. |
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Post by swamp on Jun 27, 2011 9:13:53 GMT -5
At least he admits he's neurotic? That's good, right? He understands he's in the wrong (or something), right? Yes, he fully admits he is neurotic when it comes to the kids. The first step in overcoming a problem is admitting it's a problem. |
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Post by pig on Jun 27, 2011 9:17:14 GMT -5
You honestly think a man not letting his child go away for overnights without a parent is being neurotic?
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Post by Taxman10 on Jun 27, 2011 9:17:38 GMT -5
Update: I discussed this with DH again this weekend. He is still adamant DS not go and admitted he does not have a solid articulable reason. I asked DH why he gets the veto power. He told me that I have equivalent veto power, but I have chosen not to exercise it because I'm not neurotic like he is. I'm not going to fight with him about this, so DS stays home. I'm glad you're able to see the error of your ways and finally submit to his ultimate authority and respect his wishes. :-) |
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jun 27, 2011 9:19:32 GMT -5
You honestly think a man not letting his child go away for overnights without a parent is being neurotic? Dr Pig, He could not articulate a rationale for the refusal. That is wierd, if not neurotic. |
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Post by swamp on Jun 27, 2011 9:21:25 GMT -5
You honestly think a man not letting his child go away for overnights without a parent is being neurotic? He said he was neurotic, not me! Good god, read man! |
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Post by pig on Jun 27, 2011 9:21:56 GMT -5
He could not articulate a rationale for the refusal. That is wierd, if not neurotic
You've never heard of a "gut feeling"? If your spouse has a gut feeling then they are neurotic huh? You say this despite the fact that he already vocalized the fear of the child wandering off. That does not make someone neurotic.
I do not believe that Swamp. I read very well thank you. It does not matter who said it, does that matter? Perhaps you jumping to conclusions and misreading is the issue?
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Post by swamp on Jun 27, 2011 9:28:34 GMT -5
He could not articulate a rationale for the refusal. That is wierd, if not neurotic You've never heard of a "gut feeling"? If your spouse has a gut feeling then they are neurotic huh? You say this despite the fact that he already vocalized the fear of the child wandering off. That does not make someone neurotic. I do not believe that Swamp. I read very well thank you. It does not matter who said it, does that matter? Perhaps you jumping to conclusions and misreading is the issue? He said to me "you're not neurotic like I am when it comes to the kids." No jumping to conclusions, I'm just telling you what he said. And it does matter. People are calling him neurotic, which he admitted to. |
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Post by swamp on Jun 27, 2011 9:29:37 GMT -5
He could not articulate a rationale for the refusal. That is wierd, if not neurotic. I thought he said that he wanted to spend his free time with his kid? Childhood goes by way too fast. Nothing wrong with wanting to enjoy that special time with your child. He does, but it's a 2 and a half days. And we have another child he can spend quality time with when DS isn't there. Frankly, DD could use some quality one on one time with daddy so she's not so fixated on mommy. |
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Post by pig on Jun 27, 2011 9:38:51 GMT -5
No jumping to conclusions
You jumped to the conclusion that I said "you" called him that. I never said "you" called him that. I said that does not make him neurotic and that you shouldn't believe that. I've no doubt he said that to just shut you up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2011 9:39:17 GMT -5
...but Mommy's so freakin' cool! |
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jun 27, 2011 9:54:24 GMT -5
...but Mommy's so freakin' cool!  Karma for jenny when I can. lol. |
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Post by swamp on Jun 27, 2011 9:55:20 GMT -5
No jumping to conclusions You jumped to the conclusion that I said "you" called him that. I never said "you" called him that. I said that does not make him neurotic and that you shouldn't believe that. I've no doubt he said that to just shut you up. LOL! You know, there was a fly on the wall when DH and I were talking about this. I asked once, he gave me an answer. Discussion over. Nothing to make me shut up because I really didn't say much. |
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Post by pig on Jun 27, 2011 9:56:46 GMT -5
Then his plan worked to perfection. He said something that you couldn't really reply to. That's what he wanted. You don't understand men very well. |
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Post by swamp on Jun 27, 2011 10:06:20 GMT -5
Then his plan worked to perfection. He said something that you couldn't really reply to. That's what he wanted. You don't understand men very well. I certainly could respond to it, but it wouldn't have been a very nice thing to say. |
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Post by pig on Jun 27, 2011 10:07:31 GMT -5
What could you have said? Whatever it would be it would be followed by him saying "yes dear".
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Post by swamp on Jun 27, 2011 10:09:45 GMT -5
What could you have said? You admit you are neurotic, therefore, you are not fit to make decisions regarding our children. Which would come back to bite me in the ass big time later. |
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Post by pig on Jun 27, 2011 10:12:21 GMT -5
See? You don't really believe that he's neurotic because you obviously feel he is capable of making decisions regarding the children.
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Post by zibazinski on Jun 27, 2011 10:13:56 GMT -5
Well, good. Then you make VERY SURE he spends the whole weekend doing "quality" and fun things with his kids and gives you a break. I'm sure his idea is you babysitting while he does "whatever." I'm sorry you caved, sets a bad precedence that his feelings are more important than yours. If he had said the woman's a flake or a drunk, I get it, but it is selfishness, pure and simple. He either wasn't allowed to have fun as a kid or just doesn't want his own kid to have fun. Sad.
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Post by hoops902 on Jun 27, 2011 10:18:47 GMT -5
"I'm sure his idea is you babysitting while he does "whatever." "
And why exactly are you sure?
"I'm sorry you caved, sets a bad precedence that his feelings are more important than yours."
Actually I think it sets a rather good precedent that when the parents disagree about what is best or safest for the children, the more conservative opinion wins out.
" I get it, but it is selfishness, pure and simple."
Yes, anytime a parent wants to spend time with their child rather than send them away it's clearly horrible. Having children in itself is a selfish act, you have them because you think they will benefit you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2011 10:19:42 GMT -5
I think he was being neurotic, but Swamp was right to let him have his way...this time. No matter how remote the chance, had ANYTHING happened to that kid while he was gone, he would have blamed her. When that kid hits 6 or 7 though I'd put my foot down and let him go on overnights unless there was a damn good reason for saying no.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2011 10:26:15 GMT -5
Yes, anytime a parent wants to spend time with their child rather than send them away it's clearly horrible. Having children in itself is a selfish act, you have them because you think they will benefit you.My husband is being a selfish baby. I have two vacations planned this year taking the kids without him and he thinks I should leave them home with him, so he can "spend time with them" and will "miss them too much". WTF. He works 10 hours a day and is too exhausted when he gets home to help out around the house. Yeah, I'm sure the kids would rather get up at 4:30am, be at daycare during the day and spend a couple hours with him trying to get barn chores done in the evening than hang out at a resort.
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Post by zibazinski on Jun 27, 2011 10:27:14 GMT -5
Whatever. Too many women cave all the time for no good reason. Because he's the MAN? Horsepucky.
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Post by swamp on Jun 27, 2011 10:41:14 GMT -5
Well, good. Then you make VERY SURE he spends the whole weekend doing "quality" and fun things with his kids and gives you a break. I'm sure his idea is you babysitting while he does "whatever." I'm sorry you caved, sets a bad precedence that his feelings are more important than yours. If he had said the woman's a flake or a drunk, I get it, but it is selfishness, pure and simple. He either wasn't allowed to have fun as a kid or just doesn't want his own kid to have fun. Sad. His "whatever" usually consists of yard work or home repairs. Frankly, if someone in my relationship is going to be going out golfing, drinking with friends, going to some event without the family, it's more likely to be me, not him. We had a disagreement on what our kid should do, I'm usually more lax when it comes to what they can do. It's really not a big deal to me. |
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