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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 23, 2020 13:36:17 GMT -5
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Post by busymom on Oct 23, 2020 13:39:03 GMT -5
It's amazing to me that while so many states don't want to legalize assisted suicide, they'll allow their citizens to kill themselves with this virus, and also take down others they come into contact with. Just. Plain. Stupid.
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Post by moon/Laura on Oct 23, 2020 13:46:09 GMT -5
Because there are far too many people who can't be bothered to think of anyone but themselves and how inconvenienced they are by having to wear a mask and distance themselves.
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Post by Tiny on Oct 23, 2020 13:46:53 GMT -5
From the article:
This is what I'm starting to hear from people... even people who will probably wind up in the hospital and possibly die if they get COVID19. The, someone else will die not me (or hopefully I'll live through it) OR it doesn't exist.
I think some of the issue is that they don't know anyone who's died from it OR been hospitalized OR who's been sick. It's like it doesn't exist - because they have no first hand experience with it. It's like they are skeptical of Covid19 but not skeptical at all about any conspiracy theory, paranormal, or religious dogma. Which just blows my mind.
I think it's also just the constant bombardment of "news" that's only about COVID19 coupled with the Election coupled with what appears to be no clear plan or any sort of unity in messages. All we've got is chaos.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 23, 2020 13:51:55 GMT -5
And it’s 1918 all over again. Haven’t learned a thing in 100 years
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Post by kadee79 on Oct 23, 2020 13:53:32 GMT -5
If you don't wear a mask, don't proclaim to be "pro-life"!
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 23, 2020 13:56:28 GMT -5
I think some of the issue is that they don't know anyone who's died from it OR been hospitalized OR who's been sick. It's like it doesn't exist - because they have no first hand experience with it. It's like they are skeptical of Covid19 but not skeptical at all about any conspiracy theory, paranormal, or religious dogma. Which just blows my mind.
But this is what I don’t get. I have never had shingles. I know no one IRL who has had shingles. As I had chicken pox as a child, I know I am susceptible to shingles. However, I KNOW I don’t want shingles. So I got vaccinated to avoid getting shingles. That is doing everything in my power to avoid a debilitating, painful condition that is likely not going to kill me, just make me miserable.
You don’t have to know something is bad first hand to want to avoid it. How is Covid different?
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 23, 2020 13:57:30 GMT -5
I think some of the issue is that they don't know anyone who's died from it OR been hospitalized OR who's been sick. It's like it doesn't exist - because they have no first hand experience with it. It's like they are skeptical of Covid19 but not skeptical at all about any conspiracy theory, paranormal, or religious dogma. Which just blows my mind.But this is what I don’t get. I have never had shingles. I know no one IRL who has had shingles. As I had chicken pox as a child, I know I am susceptible to shingles. However, I KNOW I don’t want shingles. So I got vaccinated to avoid getting shingles. That is doing everything in my power to avoid a debilitating, painful condition that is likely not going to kill me, just make me miserable. You don’t have to know something is bad first hand to want to avoid it. How is Covid different? Because, reasons
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 23, 2020 14:00:53 GMT -5
I think some of the issue is that they don't know anyone who's died from it OR been hospitalized OR who's been sick. It's like it doesn't exist - because they have no first hand experience with it. It's like they are skeptical of Covid19 but not skeptical at all about any conspiracy theory, paranormal, or religious dogma. Which just blows my mind.But this is what I don’t get. I have never had shingles. I know no one IRL who has had shingles. As I had chicken pox as a child, I know I am susceptible to shingles. However, I KNOW I don’t want shingles. So I got vaccinated to avoid getting shingles. That is doing everything in my power to avoid a debilitating, painful condition that is likely not going to kill me, just make me miserable. You don’t have to know something is bad first hand to want to avoid it. How is Covid different? Covid is different because Trump turned it into a political tool. Even last night he was continuing to insist it was going away, even when data shows the opposite. His fans don’t want to wear masks because that would be aligning with the weak, hysterical dems. If we had approached this strictly as a public health issue, like polio, we’d be in a much better spot now.
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Post by Tiny on Oct 23, 2020 14:02:37 GMT -5
I think some of the issue is that they don't know anyone who's died from it OR been hospitalized OR who's been sick. It's like it doesn't exist - because they have no first hand experience with it. It's like they are skeptical of Covid19 but not skeptical at all about any conspiracy theory, paranormal, or religious dogma. Which just blows my mind.But this is what I don’t get. I have never had shingles. I know no one IRL who has had shingles. As I had chicken pox as a child, I know I am susceptible to shingles. However, I KNOW I don’t want shingles. So I got vaccinated to avoid getting shingles. That is doing everything in my power to avoid a debilitating, painful condition that is likely not going to kill me, just make me miserable. You don’t have to know something is bad first hand to want to avoid it. How is Covid different? I'm right there with you. I have no idea why people are as "it's not a big deal" as they are. I had to use the "Why do you stop at Stop Signs? Why do you bother wearing shirts and shoes when you go to a store? Do you get upset when the Cashier cards the person in front of you because they aren't obviously Old and they are buying liquor? Why? because it makes life NICER for everyone involved. Wear a damn mask! "
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Post by Tiny on Oct 23, 2020 14:05:37 GMT -5
I think some of the issue is that they don't know anyone who's died from it OR been hospitalized OR who's been sick. It's like it doesn't exist - because they have no first hand experience with it. It's like they are skeptical of Covid19 but not skeptical at all about any conspiracy theory, paranormal, or religious dogma. Which just blows my mind.But this is what I don’t get. I have never had shingles. I know no one IRL who has had shingles. As I had chicken pox as a child, I know I am susceptible to shingles. However, I KNOW I don’t want shingles. So I got vaccinated to avoid getting shingles. That is doing everything in my power to avoid a debilitating, painful condition that is likely not going to kill me, just make me miserable. You don’t have to know something is bad first hand to want to avoid it. How is Covid different? Covid is different because Trump turned it into a political tool. Even last night he was continuing to insist it was going away, even when data shows the opposite. His fans don’t want to wear masks because that would be aligning with the weak, hysterical dems. If we had approached this strictly as a public health issue, like polio, we’d be in a much better spot now. And I think we can thank trump for turning it into a political tool. It's gonna be ugly for everyone if gets re-elected. And I don't necessarily mean from Covid19 - he (and his administration) will really change the way America looks/feels/and works.
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Post by NastyWoman on Oct 23, 2020 14:06:06 GMT -5
I feel you. We've had patients transported to our hospitals from a few of the very red "you can't make me wear a mask" areas here as well. They won't enforce the mask mandate our state has yet their hospital systems can't/couldn't handle the patient load. I am not sure that is still going on as it pissed ne off so much I had to stop tracking it. I felt like I was keeping all precautions just so others could keep on partying occupying beds that should be available to the stroke victim, the person with the heart attack, cancer, etc., etc.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 23, 2020 14:12:22 GMT -5
I still have not reconciled that the people were telling DH to force me to quit my job at UNMC over Ebola (sexist anyone?) when I didn't even work in the hospital let alone the biohazard ward are the exact same people who insist COVID is just like the flu so no need to do anything about it. The lack of understanding about disease works is mindboggling. With Ebola I have to be in direct contact with body fluids. Pretty sure I am not going to be getting intimate with my coworker's bodily fluids. If they have Ebola by the time they start shedding virus they aren't coming to work anyhow. COVID my coworker can sneeze in the office at his desk and I get it sitting at my desk. You should be much more scared of the one that has your co-worker working right next to you with a sniffle or no signs at all. They can spend two weeks infecting you before you are the wiser.
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Post by swamp on Oct 23, 2020 14:14:30 GMT -5
"Another member, Allen Banks, denied COVID-19 exists.
"Something's making these people sick, and I'm pretty sure that it's not coronavirus, so the question that you should be asking is, 'What's making them sick?'" he told the medical professionals who testified."
Gee, I wonder what it is that is making people sick.
The stupidity of some people is astounding.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 23, 2020 14:17:05 GMT -5
"Another member, Allen Banks, denied COVID-19 exists. "Something's making these people sick, and I'm pretty sure that it's not coronavirus, so the question that you should be asking is, 'What's making them sick?'" he told the medical professionals who testified." Gee, I wonder what it is that is making people sick. The stupidity of some people is astounding. I want to know how he knows that it’s not coronavirus? What little nugget in his pea sized brain does not get that there is a test, and a set of symptoms that define Covid? Even scarier is this yahoo controls the financial strings to the hospital that is overflowing patients!
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Post by swamp on Oct 23, 2020 14:18:52 GMT -5
"Another member, Allen Banks, denied COVID-19 exists. "Something's making these people sick, and I'm pretty sure that it's not coronavirus, so the question that you should be asking is, 'What's making them sick?'" he told the medical professionals who testified." Gee, I wonder what it is that is making people sick. The stupidity of some people is astounding. I want to know how he knows that it’s not coronavirus? What little nugget in his pea sized brain does not get that there is a test, and a set of symptoms that define Covid? Who knows? I did see a gem on FB the other day: The common cold is also a coronavirus, so the COVID test can only determine if you have a coronavirus, not specifically COVID-19. All these people who are testing positive actually have a cold, not COVID.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 23, 2020 14:24:26 GMT -5
I want to know how he knows that it’s not coronavirus? What little nugget in his pea sized brain does not get that there is a test, and a set of symptoms that define Covid? Who knows? I did see a gem on FB the other day: The common cold is also a coronavirus, so the COVID test can only determine if you have a coronavirus, not specifically COVID-19. All these people who are testing positive actually have a cold, not COVID. LOL! I never felt like I had an elephant sitting on my chest with a cold! Clearly, these people do not understand science and how this test works. They don’t get that different strains can kill you. Herpes can cause a cold sore in adults. Another herpes virus that causes cold sores in monkeys can kill a human. Same class of virus, different strain.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 15:40:15 GMT -5
Well. Yesterday's count in GA was 1811 new cases. Today? 2269. Seems to be a little bump there. We started out the week with 800+ new cases.
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Post by saveinla on Oct 23, 2020 16:30:25 GMT -5
I think people who don't wear masks and deny that the virus exists - should own it and not get tested or go to the hospital, even if they are infected and suffering or even dying. If you are so sure of it, why use up resources? Let this be a teaching moment for everyone around you. OMG - I have become a monster and will surely go to hell, but I have good company
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Post by dondub on Oct 23, 2020 16:44:39 GMT -5
Well here I sit all these months after the initial virus assault and the answer to the op is patently obvious isn’t it. Our so called POTUS has had the largest failure of any single prez in the history of our country. The list of his incredible statements about it is damn near endless, his desire to not “panic” the American people distilled bullshit. It was always and only about his getting re-elected and a quality lockdown was going to damage that in his mind as all he really has to run on is the economy.
I personally believe he could have avoided the blame he has now so justly earned by taking a firm leadership position of what it was going to take to stop C-19, instead he did the opposite and now pretends he did “the greatest job ever”. Oh please Don. You have blown it completely.
So the correct answer is YOUR failure. It’s on YOU. Blood on YOUR hands. Now do us all a solid and get lost.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 23, 2020 16:52:47 GMT -5
I feel you. We've had patients transported to our hospitals from a few of the very red "you can't make me wear a mask" areas here as well. They won't enforce the mask mandate our state has yet their hospital systems can't/couldn't handle the patient load. I am not sure that is still going on as it pissed ne off so much I had to stop tracking it. I felt like I was keeping all precautions just so others could keep on partying occupying beds that should be available to the stroke victim, the person with the heart attack, cancer, etc., etc. .......and if they can't wear masks, could they at least wear their white hoods?
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Post by flan327 on Oct 24, 2020 6:38:59 GMT -5
Another day...another record-setting DEATH TOLL
WELCOME TO 'MURICA
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Post by tbop77 on Oct 24, 2020 6:42:05 GMT -5
When the President signed the first bailout in March with one hand and tweeted "LIBERATE" with the other, it didn't take a genius to figure out how this pandemic was going to turn out for the US. That money was pissed away, but at least he got his name on the check.
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 24, 2020 8:03:20 GMT -5
I feel you. We've had patients transported to our hospitals from a few of the very red "you can't make me wear a mask" areas here as well. They won't enforce the mask mandate our state has yet their hospital systems can't/couldn't handle the patient load. I am not sure that is still going on as it pissed ne off so much I had to stop tracking it. I felt like I was keeping all precautions just so others could keep on partying occupying beds that should be available to the stroke victim, the person with the heart attack, cancer, etc., etc. .......and if they can't wear masks, could they at least wear their white hoods? Well, then they’d be falling over things. Which reminds me of the klan scene in Django.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 24, 2020 8:06:43 GMT -5
I am all for suicide as a personal choice. but I am not for homicide as a personal choice.
wear your fucking mask.
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 24, 2020 8:37:55 GMT -5
Personally scary. People from this area travel west and I travel south to the same big city to shop. Of course, my area has a similar attitude anyway so not sure it matters that much.
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Post by oped on Oct 24, 2020 8:47:39 GMT -5
I remember the first time my kids saw a 9-11 movie. They, only cognizant beings post event, were like, WTF? You let them just get on planes with no screening? Were you morons?
Can you imagine the future? You mean all you had to do was wear a mask and maintain distance and half a million people wouldn’t have died? WTF? Were you morons?
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 24, 2020 8:49:23 GMT -5
if this is not the path of deep regret, we are doomed as a nation.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 24, 2020 9:03:17 GMT -5
So, a red state is asking a blue state to bail it out and will not do anything to prevent the problem. I thought conservatives were all for personal responsibility. Fix your own damn problem. Unless they mean personal responsibility is only for poor black people.
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 24, 2020 9:23:55 GMT -5
Well. Yesterday's count in GA was 1811 new cases. Today? 2269. Seems to be a little bump there. We started out the week with 800+ new cases. I'm not confident in GA"s numbers, because of Kemp. King of manipulating. If you look the total death rates and remove the COVID cases, there's a lot more people dying this year, on average, compared to the previous few years. If you didn't get a COVID test and died, even if you had all the symptoms of COVID, they are counting that as some other cause of death. I think Florida is doing the same. Not a coincidence both have idiot governors who are trying to pretend COVId is not a big deal.
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