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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 28, 2019 23:37:44 GMT -5
Why oh why do liberals hate success so much? Why the self hatred of your successes with this Administration? why do conservatives hate the truth so much?
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 28, 2019 23:53:58 GMT -5
Why oh why do liberals hate success so much? Why the self hatred of your successes with this Administration? why do conservatives hate the truth so much? Why do conservatives accept trump's daily lies to the U.S. and say nothing.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 29, 2019 8:39:26 GMT -5
why do conservatives hate the truth so much? Why do conservatives accept trump's daily lies to the U.S. and say nothing. Perhaps they are saying something and you simply can't hear it because you won't shut up about Pres. Trump for a solid tenth of a second. You (Pres. Trump's detractors) march into discussions that have nothing to do with Trump and make them about Trump. If we (the unconverted) aren't criticizing Trump, or we're giving him the benefit of the doubt, you lay bare your anti-Trump case with fanatical zeal. If you're rebuffed, out come the accusations of racism, sexism, xenophobia, blindness, hatred, and the whole gamut. If we're lightly criticizing Pres. Trump, your only desire is that we criticize him more fiercely. If we're fiercely criticizing Pres. Trump, your reproachful voices demand to know why we weren't also criticizing him in the "Venezuela melting down" thread, or for that matter the "Funny! Drunk beavers!" thread.
You're obsessed with the man. Are there any P/CE threads left that haven't been infected by your monomania in this era of all-Trump-all-the-time? I criticize Pres. Trump plenty. If it's not good enough for you, beans on you. I have my religion and obsessing over Pres. Trump isn't it.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 29, 2019 8:46:07 GMT -5
Why do conservatives accept trump's daily lies to the U.S. and say nothing. Perhaps they are saying something and you simply can't hear it because you won't shut up about Pres. Trump for a solid tenth of a second. You (Pres. Trump's detractors) march into discussions that have nothing to do with Trump and make them about Trump. If we (the unconverted) aren't criticizing Trump, or we're giving him the benefit of the doubt, you lay bare your anti-Trump case with fanatical zeal. If you're rebuffed, out come the accusations of racism, sexism, xenophobia, blindness, hatred, and the whole gamut. If we're lightly criticizing Pres. Trump, your only desire is that we criticize him more fiercely. If we're fiercely criticizing Pres. Trump, your reproachful voices demand to know why we weren't also criticizing him in the "Venezuela melting down" thread, or for that matter the "Funny! Drunk beavers!" thread.
You're obsessed with the man. Are there any P/CE threads left that haven't been infected by your monomania in this era of all-Trump-all-the-time? I criticize Pres. Trump plenty. If it's not good enough for you, beans on you. I have my religion and obsessing over Pres. Trump isn't it.
We hear and read what trump says very well. The washington Post politely calls trump's lies "false". Call them what they are: lies.
President Trump has made 9,014 false or misleading claims over 773 daysUpdate, March 17: As of 787 days in office, the tally is 9,179 claimsPowered by his two-hour stemwinder at the Conservative Political Action Conference on March 2 — which featured more than 100 false or misleading claims — President Trump is on pace to exceed his daily quota set during his first two years in office. The president averaged nearly 5.9 false or misleading claims a day in his first year in office. He hit nearly 16.5 a day in his second year. So far in 2019, he’s averaging nearly 22 claims a day. As of the end of March 3, the 773rd day of his term in office, Trump accumulated 9,014 fishy claims, according to The Fact Checker’s database that analyzes, categorizes and tracks every suspect statement uttered by the president. Trump’s performance at CPAC is emblematic of his version of the truth during his presidency — a potent mix of exaggerated numbers, unwarranted boasting and outright falsehoods. His speech helped push March 2 to his fourth-biggest day for false or misleading claims, totaling 104. Complete article here: President Trump has made 9,014 false or misleading claims over 773 days
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 29, 2019 9:19:31 GMT -5
9,014 sounds right around the number of anti-Trump threads we've seen in the past 773 days, so I can believe it. I notice the article mentions a database, but it's behind a paywall. Is there a searchable database on these "false or misleading claims"? Perhaps indexed by severity, frequency, etc.?
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 29, 2019 9:25:00 GMT -5
9,014 sounds right around the number of anti-Trump threads we've seen in the past 773 days, so I can believe it. I notice the article mentions a database, but it's behind a paywall. Is there a searchable database on these "false or misleading claims"? Perhaps indexed by severity, frequency, etc.? I gave you a start. Use Google. In your neck of the woods, check the Toronto Star. They were keeping a dstabase at one point. "Severity"? A lie is a lie. The guy doesn't lie to spare others' feelings like a white lie/little fib would. He lies to make himself look good.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 29, 2019 10:23:21 GMT -5
Correct technically but a fact that he paid $160, 000 as a payoff for a sexual act to be not exposed...one can imagine pressure being brought on a prostitute [a law violator...influential folks and the Donald definitely is one, can exert tremendous pressure and in the case of the young lady...it seems, according to her, the Donald did threated her and dire consequences against her family if she ever revealed the attack... There are many other threads regarding this and other incidents available...if needed, though this one is pretty complete.....Naturally his base and supporters don't care about these incidents...In their minds just the Donald being Donald... I do wonder if the same incidents were done against family members if they would be so blaze about the same thing being done to their people. ------------------------------------- splinternews.com/here-are-all-the-times-donald-trump-has-been-accused-of-1793860459What's the matter dezii, the collusion and obstruction thing not working out for you ,, so you clear back to this thing. here is something to cheer you up!! Woooo Hooooo, Trump is Making America Great Again!!!
here is a second example of you "yahooing" when you were not the subject of the discussion.
convinced that this is a habit for you, yet?
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 29, 2019 10:38:22 GMT -5
What's the matter dezii, the collusion and obstruction thing not working out for you ,, so you clear back to this thing. here is something to cheer you up!! Woooo Hooooo, Trump is Making America Great Again!!!
here is a second example of you "yahooing" when you were not the subject of the discussion.
convinced that this is a habit for you, yet?
I was only trying to cheer him up.......
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 29, 2019 10:42:35 GMT -5
here is a second example of you "yahooing" when you were not the subject of the discussion.
convinced that this is a habit for you, yet?
I was only trying to cheer him up....... before I criticize the attempt, let's find out if it worked.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Mar 29, 2019 10:57:51 GMT -5
politifact.com does some of the work Virgil's asking about.
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Post by dezii on Mar 29, 2019 10:59:03 GMT -5
Correct technically but a fact that he paid $160, 000 as a payoff for a sexual act to be not exposed...one can imagine pressure being brought on a prostitute [a law violator...influential folks and the Donald definitely is one, can exert tremendous pressure and in the case of the young lady...it seems, according to her, the Donald did threated her and dire consequences against her family if she ever revealed the attack... There are many other threads regarding this and other incidents available...if needed, though this one is pretty complete.....Naturally his base and supporters don't care about these incidents...In their minds just the Donald being Donald... I do wonder if the same incidents were done against family members if they would be so blaze about the same thing being done to their people. ------------------------------------- splinternews.com/here-are-all-the-times-donald-trump-has-been-accused-of-1793860459What's the matter dezii, the collusion and obstruction thing not working out for you ,, so you clear back to this thing. here is something to cheer you up!! Woooo Hooooo, Trump is Making America Great Again!!!
Please show me, my fellow posters and readers here, where I made a big deal about collusion and obstruction charges...even mentioned them...I never did and u mentioning that I did is just another lie that u have no problem doing … How about you condoning his, the Donalds, sexual attacks on woman...his words of abuse...Are u ok with his beliefs and actions because that is how u too feel about this gender...even participating in same type of actions...how u really feel about woman..your mother, daughter wife...thus never a word of criticism against your idol...[sad, shame on u... ] ------------------------------ "so you clear back to this thing." it may be old and go way back but that does not excuse his behavior...except for those who are his supporters....that they, u in particular , have no problem with such actions as depicted in this posted thread isc a shame....bet u didn't even read the article I posted because u condone his action that is depicted...attacks on woman, physically , by words too and rape of woman and debasing them is just fine by u...sad u feel this about woman...so sad.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 29, 2019 12:10:42 GMT -5
9,014 sounds right around the number of anti-Trump threads we've seen in the past 773 days, so I can believe it. I notice the article mentions a database, but it's behind a paywall. Is there a searchable database on these "false or misleading claims"? Perhaps indexed by severity, frequency, etc.? I gave you a start. Use Google. In your neck of the woods, check the Toronto Star. They were keeping a dstabase at one point. "Severity"? A lie is a lie. The guy doesn't lie to spare others' feelings like a white lie/little fib would. He lies to make himself look good. I want to know how many lies are of the "US trade deficits have never been smaller" 'undeniably false' variety versus the "MSNBC is conspiring with Robert Mueller in a witch hunt" 'depends on how you look at it' variety. Also, how many are of the "We're pulling our troops out of Syria" 'will impact people's lives' variety versus the "I'm the most popular president ever" 'whatever; nobody but you cares' variety. Finally, what about redundancy and subjectivity? Suppose Pres. Trump says in a speech (and this is indicative of the way he speaks): "So the Democrats... the Democrats are out to get me. They hate me. They can't stand that I'm here and that Crooked Hillary Lost. They hate democracy, folks. They just hate it. Anyway, Mueller and all the angry, unfair people the Democrats sent to get me, what have they found yet? What? Nothing. They've found nothing. Zero. No collusion. No... let me tell you folks, no collusion, nothing. They can't stand it. They're on TV every night, on Fake News CNN, saying 'Oh yeah, well we haven't found anything, but we're going to.' They're losers. They're not going to find anything. They're just losers on their low-rated cable networks. I don't think their ratings have ever been lower. ..." Depending on the way you ran the true/false accounting on this, you could count as few as zero lies, or as many as 24. Hence the raw 9,014 number doesn't really mean much unless we know the specifics of their accounting process. I'm not going out hunting for this pap.
I thought you might have it as your browser homepage or something.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 29, 2019 12:20:03 GMT -5
I gave you a start. Use Google. In your neck of the woods, check the Toronto Star. They were keeping a dstabase at one point. "Severity"? A lie is a lie. The guy doesn't lie to spare others' feelings like a white lie/little fib would. He lies to make himself look good. I want to know how many lies are of the "US trade deficits have never been smaller" 'undeniably false' variety versus the "MSNBC is conspiring with Robert Mueller in a witch hunt" 'depends on how you look at it' variety. Also, how many are of the "We're pulling our troops out of Syria" 'will impact people's lives' variety versus the "I'm the most popular president ever" 'whatever; nobody but you cares' variety. Finally, what about redundancy and subjectivity? Suppose Pres. Trump says in a speech (and this is indicative of the way he speaks): "So the Democrats... the Democrats are out to get me. They hate me. They can't stand that I'm here and that Crooked Hillary Lost. They hate democracy, folks. They just hate it. Anyway, Mueller and all the angry, unfair people the Democrats sent to get me, what have they found yet? What? Nothing. They've found nothing. Zero. No collusion. No... let me tell you folks, no collusion, nothing. They can't stand it. They're on TV every night, on Fake News CNN, saying 'Oh yeah, well we haven't found anything, but we're going to.' They're losers. They're not going to find anything. They're just losers on their low-rated cable networks. I don't think their ratings have ever been lower. ..." Depending on the way you ran the true/false accounting on this, you could count as few as zero lies, or as many as 24. Hence the raw 9,014 number doesn't really mean much unless we know the specifics of their accounting process. I'm not going out hunting for this pap.
I thought you might have it as your browser homepage or something. What can I tell you. Subscribe to the Washington Post like I do and you can scan that database. Over and Out.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 29, 2019 12:23:30 GMT -5
Perhaps they are saying something and you simply can't hear it because you won't shut up about Pres. Trump for a solid tenth of a second. You (Pres. Trump's detractors) march into discussions that have nothing to do with Trump and make them about Trump. If we (the unconverted) aren't criticizing Trump, or we're giving him the benefit of the doubt, you lay bare your anti-Trump case with fanatical zeal. If you're rebuffed, out come the accusations of racism, sexism, xenophobia, blindness, hatred, and the whole gamut. If we're lightly criticizing Pres. Trump, your only desire is that we criticize him more fiercely. If we're fiercely criticizing Pres. Trump, your reproachful voices demand to know why we weren't also criticizing him in the "Venezuela melting down" thread, or for that matter the "Funny! Drunk beavers!" thread.
You're obsessed with the man. Are there any P/CE threads left that haven't been infected by your monomania in this era of all-Trump-all-the-time? I criticize Pres. Trump plenty. If it's not good enough for you, beans on you. I have my religion and obsessing over Pres. Trump isn't it.
First of all, let me agree with you on something. You do criticize trump, yes, and from what I can see you have kept a rather level head regarding the many shortfalls of the man. Regarding the incessant drum beat of all things trump- I would suggest that the man does that to himself, and he does it very purposefully. Not a day goes by (sometimes not an hour) without the latest incendiary trump tweet of press bomb, designed specifically to grab headlines, usually in a shocking and insulting manner. Can there be any other reaction from a message board whose purpose is politics? Of course people react to this, and it becomes an all trump show, all the time. Very, very unfortunately so. Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo.... Livin' in the USA...… Somebody buy me a CHEESEBURGER! you ever heard Cheeseburger by Gang of Four? hilarious.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 29, 2019 12:52:09 GMT -5
Regarding the incessant drum beat of all things trump- I would suggest that the man does that to himself, and he does it very purposefully. Not a day goes by (sometimes not an hour) without the latest incendiary trump tweet of press bomb, designed specifically to grab headlines, usually in a shocking and insulting manner. Can there be any other reaction from a message board whose purpose is politics? Of course people react to this, and it becomes an all trump show, all the time. Very, very unfortunately so. It's not so much the drum beat I mind as it is the fact that it monopolizes everyone's time and there's nowhere to escape it. I can remember those great debates I had back in 2011: Fukushima, anti-intellectualism, social security, militias and the Sovereign Citizens movement, ...
2016: and here comes | Trump Trump Tru-tru-tru-Trump | Trump Trump Trump-Trump-Trump | and Trump Trump ... Those thought-provoking scrums with DJ and Billis in 2012, 2013: torture memos, Wikileaks, Snowden, thorium, Common Core, Obamacare... 2017: ... | Trump Trump Tru-tru-tru-Trump | Trump Trump Trumpity-Trump | and Trump Trump Tru-tru-tru-Trump | ... And who could forget 2014: Stand Your Ground, pot legalization, capital punishment, Benghazi and the CIA rat line, ...
2018: ... Tru-tru-tru-Trump | Trump-Ditty-ump-ump Trump-Trump-Trump | here's Trump Trump Tru-tru-tru-Trump | ... Oh, we had lively debates in 2015: Religious freedom, the Ashley Madison hack, Ferguson, Google, ISIS, literacy, campus censorship, Chemical warfare, the Vault 7 leaks, ... 2019: ...ump Trump More-of-Trump | Trump-a-lay-dee Trump-a-lay-dee T. R. Ump | Trump Trump Tru-tru-tru-Trump | Trump Trump... I lament that online political discussion--at least here--is less than a shadow of what it once was. Pres. Trump is partly to blame, but only a small part. This was voluntary.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 29, 2019 13:08:18 GMT -5
Regarding the incessant drum beat of all things trump- I would suggest that the man does that to himself, and he does it very purposefully. Not a day goes by (sometimes not an hour) without the latest incendiary trump tweet of press bomb, designed specifically to grab headlines, usually in a shocking and insulting manner. Can there be any other reaction from a message board whose purpose is politics? Of course people react to this, and it becomes an all trump show, all the time. Very, very unfortunately so. It's not so much the drum beat I mind as it is the fact that it monopolizes everyone's time and there's nowhere to escape it. I can remember those great debates I had back in 2011: Fukushima, anti-intellectualism, social security, militias and the Sovereign Citizens movement, ...
2016: and here comes | Trump Trump Tru-tru-tru-Trump | Trump Trump Trump-Trump-Trump | and Trump Trump ... Those thought-provoking scrums with DJ and Billis in 2012, 2013: torture memos, Wikileaks, Snowden, thorium, Common Core, Obamacare... 2017: ... | Trump Trump Tru-tru-tru-Trump | Trump Trump Trumpity-Trump | and Trump Trump Tru-tru-tru-Trump | ... And who could forget 2014: Stand Your Ground, pot legalization, capital punishment, Benghazi and the CIA rat line, ...
2018: ... Tru-tru-tru-Trump | Trump-Ditty-ump-ump Trump-Trump-Trump | here's Trump Trump Tru-tru-tru-Trump | ... Oh, we had lively debates in 2015: Religious freedom, the Ashley Madison hack, Ferguson, Google, ISIS, literacy, campus censorship, Chemical warfare, the Vault 7 leaks, ... 2019: ...ump Trump More-of-Trump | Trump-a-lay-dee Trump-a-lay-dee T. R. Ump | Trump Trump Tru-tru-tru-Trump | Trump Trump... I lament that online political discussion--at least here--is less than a shadow of what it once was. Pres. Trump is partly to blame, but only a small part. This was voluntary.
Do what the other mods and Moon tell us: just skip past those threads.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 29, 2019 13:17:37 GMT -5
Some of us do consider him a clear and present danger to the Republic. So there is that Virgil Showlion There are a lot of clear and present dangers to your Republic. You're actually one of the least afflicted. I've seen you contribute to discussions like AS's thread on police violence, billis' thread on feds and campus censorship, gun control debates, and some of my recent failed attempts to stimulate discussion (Syria, Internet Censorhip, Sergei Skripal, etc.). Often just brief comments, but at least you care about something other than Pres. Trump.
Hence thank you for that, sincerely. Do what the other mods and Moon tell us: just skip past those threads. Skip past to what? There's nothing else here. That's what I'm lamenting.
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Post by NastyWoman on Mar 29, 2019 14:25:09 GMT -5
from that bastion of "liberal fake news": "Judge Andrew Napolitano said there positively "some" proof of Trump-Russia conspiracy and obstruction of justice in the 700 page report.
“In the 700 page summary of the 2 million pages of raw evidence there is undoubtedly some evidence of a conspiracy and some evidence of obstruction of justice,” he told FOX Business’ Neil Cavuto. “Just not enough evidence.”
Judge Napolitano said that prosecutors ethically are not able to bring charges unless they can prove it without a reasonable doubt. But Attorney General William Barr never indicated it...."
finance.yahoo.com/news/mueller-report-apos-undoubtedly-apos-175356272.html
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 29, 2019 15:55:35 GMT -5
Some of us do consider him a clear and present danger to the Republic. So there is that Virgil Showlion There are a lot of clear and present dangers to your Republic. You're actually one of the least afflicted. I've seen you contribute to discussions like AS's thread on police violence, billis' thread on feds and campus censorship, gun control debates, and some of my recent failed attempts to stimulate discussion (Syria, Internet Censorhip, Sergei Skripal, etc.). Often just brief comments, but at least you care about something other than Pres. Trump.
Hence thank you for that, sincerely. Do what the other mods and Moon tell us: just skip past those threads. Skip past to what? There's nothing else here. That's what I'm lamenting. Maybe the Recipe or Knitting threads? You won't find a lot of anti-trump posts on those boards which will drive you nuts. There other message boards on the internet. This is not the only one. Other posters have left here and gone to these boards. Which boards they are I cannot tell you.
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 29, 2019 21:01:48 GMT -5
Some of us do consider him a clear and present danger to the Republic. So there is that Virgil Showlion There are a lot of clear and present dangers to your Republic. You're actually one of the least afflicted. I've seen you contribute to discussions like AS's thread on police violence, billis' thread on feds and campus censorship, gun control debates, and some of my recent failed attempts to stimulate discussion (Syria, Internet Censorhip, Sergei Skripal, etc.). Often just brief comments, but at least you care about something other than Pres. Trump.
Hence thank you for that, sincerely. Do what the other mods and Moon tell us: just skip past those threads. Skip past to what? There's nothing else here. That's what I'm lamenting.
That's because Trump is the center of the black hole that is sucking democracy into oblivion.
Almost every international event, natural disaster or domestic crime gets eclipsed by the clown bus that is his administration.
I'm sorry you're bored by the quality of the political board right now, because of our Trumpian national fever dream. Maybe stick to one of the more cheerful boards and check back here post 2020, when, with any luck, we'll have a non-crazy president again, and we can actually discuss more worthwhile subjects.
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Post by dondub on Mar 30, 2019 12:04:45 GMT -5
You're actually one of the least afflicted. I've seen you contribute to discussions like AS's thread on police violence, billis' thread on feds and campus censorship, gun control debates, and some of my recent failed attempts to stimulate discussion (Syria, Internet Censorhip, Sergei Skripal, etc.). Often just brief comments, but at least you care about something other than Pres. Trump. Try as I might, I just don't really care all that much about Syria.
I'm opposed to internet censorship.
Sergei Skripal was murdered by the Russkies. I wish the current administration wasn't so cozy with them.
Next!
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 30, 2019 13:17:53 GMT -5
You're actually one of the least afflicted. I've seen you contribute to discussions like AS's thread on police violence, billis' thread on feds and campus censorship, gun control debates, and some of my recent failed attempts to stimulate discussion (Syria, Internet Censorhip, Sergei Skripal, etc.). Often just brief comments, but at least you care about something other than Pres. Trump. Try as I might, I just don't really care all that much about Syria.
I'm opposed to internet censorship.
Sergei Skripal was murdered by the Russkies. I wish the current administration wasn't so cozy with them.
Next!
Thanks for your... four sentences. Technically just three, since the last one ("I wish...") is the segue back to Trump bashing. All-Trump-all-the-time would be tolerable if there was some kind of discussion about ideas, values, theories, hypotheticals... anything besides the mind-numbing dead-end critiques that only ever yield insipid echo chambers or (equally insipid) partisan bickering over which party/politician is worse. But such is not to be. Happy and Tenn are right. The spirit of online political discourse has changed, and I haven't changed with it. It may be time to hunt for another watering hole. Or, in the likely event I don't find anything more agreeable, give up on this social media adventure completely. It does take up a lot of my free time. I will miss those discussions of old, though.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 30, 2019 13:33:49 GMT -5
You're actually one of the least afflicted. I've seen you contribute to discussions like AS's thread on police violence, billis' thread on feds and campus censorship, gun control debates, and some of my recent failed attempts to stimulate discussion (Syria, Internet Censorhip, Sergei Skripal, etc.). Often just brief comments, but at least you care about something other than Pres. Trump. Try as I might, I just don't really care all that much about Syria.
I'm opposed to internet censorship.
Sergei Skripal was murdered by the Russkies. I wish the current administration wasn't so cozy with them.
Next!
Thanks for your... four sentences. Technically just three, since the last one ("I wish...") is the segue back to Trump bashing. All-Trump-all-the-time would be tolerable if there was some kind of discussion about ideas, values, theories, hypotheticals... anything besides the mind-numbing dead-end critiques that only ever yield insipid echo chambers or (equally insipid) partisan bickering over which party/politician is worse. But such is not to be. Happy and Tenn are right. The spirit of online political discourse has changed, and I haven't changed with it. It may be time to hunt for another watering hole. Or, in the likely event I don't find anything more agreeable, give up on this social media adventure completely. It does take up a lot of my free time. I will miss those discussions of old, though.
Buh bye!
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 30, 2019 13:38:37 GMT -5
Perhaps people are tired of your long-winded screeds, complaints about only 4 sentences instead of a novel, your theoreticals and hypotheticals, your stalking behaviour, bitching about what we choose to post about, etc.
Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 30, 2019 13:40:28 GMT -5
not this again!
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Virgil Showlion
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 30, 2019 17:25:37 GMT -5
Perhaps people are tired of your long-winded screeds, complaints about only 4 sentences instead of a novel, your theoreticals and hypotheticals, your stalking behaviour, bitching about what we choose to post about, etc. Don't let the door hit you on your way out. Thanks for the fond farewell, Weltz. I'll miss you guys too.
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Post by dondub on Mar 30, 2019 17:48:47 GMT -5
You're actually one of the least afflicted. I've seen you contribute to discussions like AS's thread on police violence, billis' thread on feds and campus censorship, gun control debates, and some of my recent failed attempts to stimulate discussion (Syria, Internet Censorhip, Sergei Skripal, etc.). Often just brief comments, but at least you care about something other than Pres. Trump. Try as I might, I just don't really care all that much about Syria.
I'm opposed to internet censorship.
Sergei Skripal was murdered by the Russkies. I wish the current administration wasn't so cozy with them.
Next!
Thanks for your... four sentences. Technically just three, since the last one ("I wish...") is the segue back to Trump bashing. All-Trump-all-the-time would be tolerable if there was some kind of discussion about ideas, values, theories, hypotheticals... anything besides the mind-numbing dead-end critiques that only ever yield insipid echo chambers or (equally insipid) partisan bickering over which party/politician is worse. But such is not to be. Happy and Tenn are right. The spirit of online political discourse has changed, and I haven't changed with it. It may be time to hunt for another watering hole. Or, in the likely event I don't find anything more agreeable, give up on this social media adventure completely. It does take up a lot of my free time. I will miss those discussions of old, though.
Sorry I couldn't get more sentences together for you, but on those topics brevity served me just fine. As for the 4th sentence na segue...call it that if you like but it is just my opinion that our current admin shouldn't be so cozy with a murderous dictator. If you want to call that Trump bashing be my guest.
Now, do you have any other topics you would like to discuss?
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 30, 2019 17:58:10 GMT -5
Thanks for your... four sentences. Technically just three, since the last one ("I wish...") is the segue back to Trump bashing. All-Trump-all-the-time would be tolerable if there was some kind of discussion about ideas, values, theories, hypotheticals... anything besides the mind-numbing dead-end critiques that only ever yield insipid echo chambers or (equally insipid) partisan bickering over which party/politician is worse. But such is not to be. Happy and Tenn are right. The spirit of online political discourse has changed, and I haven't changed with it. It may be time to hunt for another watering hole. Or, in the likely event I don't find anything more agreeable, give up on this social media adventure completely. It does take up a lot of my free time. I will miss those discussions of old, though.
Sorry I couldn't get more sentences together for you, but on those topics brevity served me just fine. As for the 4th sentence na segue...call it that if you like but it is just my opinion that our current admin shouldn't be so cozy with a murderous dictator. If you want to call that Trump bashing be my guest.
Now, do you have any other topics you would like to discuss?
All topics have to be approved by Virgil. Remember his hissy fit on the Khashoggi thread? "Why do you post on this one guy when people are dying in Yemen??" Be sure to get his permission before you post.
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Virgil Showlion
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 30, 2019 18:06:40 GMT -5
"Why do you post exclusively on this one guy when countless more people like him are dying in Yemen , murdered by the same regime??" Fixed. And you'll note the only explanation anyone could give was that Mr. Khashoggi was a symbol and an icon, and that man has an irrational fixation with symbols and icons. It was a good thread. It didn't inspire you to any kind of introspection, but some others...
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 30, 2019 18:11:38 GMT -5
"Why do you post exclusively on this one guy when countless more people like him are dying in Yemen , murdered by the same regime??" Fixed. And you'll note the only explanation anyone could give was that Mr. Khashoggi was a symbol and an icon, and that man has an irrational fixation with symbols and icons. It was a good thread. It didn't inspire you to any kind of introspection, but some others...
Got it. We post about the wrong things, according to Your Highness. Weren't you just bitching about Trump, Trump, Trump, 100% of the time? That wasn't about Trump, but it was not good enough for you. No, we had to post about starving people in Yemen, and Khashoggi be damned!
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