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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 30, 2019 18:31:10 GMT -5
Fixed. And you'll note the only explanation anyone could give was that Mr. Khashoggi was a symbol and an icon, and that man has an irrational fixation with symbols and icons. It was a good thread. It didn't inspire you to any kind of introspection, but some others...
Got it. We post about the wrong things, according to Your Highness. Weren't you just bitching about Trump, Trump, Trump, 100% of the time? That wasn't about Trump, but it was not good enough for you. No, we had to post about starving people in Yemen, and Khashoggi be damned! You (the board) weren't directly upset about Mr. Khashoggi's murder. You were loudly condemning Pres. Trump for refusing to sever ties with Saudi Arabia over the murder, calling him inhuman, etc. Much of the thread was my pointing out that US-Saudi relations have endured through a dozen US administrations and crimes literally tens of thousands of times greater than the murder of a single journalist, even during recent administrations. I also pointed out that the US maintains ties with other nations with equally deplorable records, such as China.
So yes, the fixation with Mr. Khashoggi was "about Trump", and that thread was just one more appeal for reason and perspective.
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 30, 2019 22:23:35 GMT -5
Southern District of New York for the win.
Annd if that does not work , !
name me one Mueller (or Mueller derived) case that has "not worked", so far.
failing to find one, perhaps you should stop asking this question. it is like asking:
"what if the sun doesn't come up tomorrow"
How about that one about collusion??
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 30, 2019 22:30:40 GMT -5
from that bastion of "liberal fake news": "Judge Andrew Napolitano said there positively "some" proof of Trump-Russia conspiracy and obstruction of justice in the 700 page report.
“In the 700 page summary of the 2 million pages of raw evidence there is undoubtedly some evidence of a conspiracy and some evidence of obstruction of justice,” he told FOX Business’ Neil Cavuto. “Just not enough evidence.”
Judge Napolitano said that prosecutors ethically are not able to bring charges unless they can prove it without a reasonable doubt. But Attorney General William Barr never indicated it...."
finance.yahoo.com/news/mueller-report-apos-undoubtedly-apos-175356272.html
I hear they really have Trump on some serious charges,,
Apparently they found solid evidence that Trump, ripped off a mattress tag in 1987!!! It specifically State,, Do Not Remove This Tag Under Penalty Of The Law!!! Trump is screwed!
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Post by countrygirl2 on Mar 31, 2019 0:20:20 GMT -5
You know, I see nothing funny about this. You obviously do not see the danger presented by this so called president. He is now calling for news stations to not interview certain people. He is trying to defame anyone and anything he can. He has surrounded himself with felons. Noone he wants to work for him seems to be clean. No country really wants to deal with him because they don't know if his whim today will be the same whim he has tomorrow. He is a sad caricature of a man and an embarrassment as president.
He is trying to be a dictator whether you want to see it or not. Many of us can. Sadly he has some ill informed and yes stupid followers. I will say that you are just one of the ill informed and biased. I would not want to place myself in his core of followers. Our country and democracy is in serious times, we are watching the decline of a great democracy. I hope it doesn't go so far that even you finally see it.
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Post by dezii on Mar 31, 2019 8:38:46 GMT -5
You know, I see nothing funny about this. You obviously do not see the danger presented by this so called president. He is now calling for news stations to not interview certain people. He is trying to defame anyone and anything he can. He has surrounded himself with felons. Noone he wants to work for him seems to be clean. No country really wants to deal with him because they don't know if his whim today will be the same whim he has tomorrow. He is a sad caricature of a man and an embarrassment as president. He is trying to be a dictator whether you want to see it or not. Many of us can. Sadly he has some ill informed and yes stupid followers. I will say that you are just one of the ill informed and biased. I would not want to place myself in his core of followers. Our country and democracy is in serious times, we are watching the decline of a great democracy. I hope it doesn't go so far that even you finally see it. Very well said...…. ….kudos....
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 31, 2019 8:42:57 GMT -5
Perhaps people are tired of your long-winded screeds, complaints about only 4 sentences instead of a novel, your theoreticals and hypotheticals, your stalking behaviour, bitching about what we choose to post about, etc. Don't let the door hit you on your way out. Thanks for the fond farewell, Weltz. I'll miss you guys too. I will most definitely miss your posts, Virgil!
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 31, 2019 8:45:38 GMT -5
You know, I see nothing funny about this. You obviously do not see the danger presented by this so called president. He is now calling for news stations to not interview certain people. He is trying to defame anyone and anything he can. He has surrounded himself with felons. Noone he wants to work for him seems to be clean. No country really wants to deal with him because they don't know if his whim today will be the same whim he has tomorrow. He is a sad caricature of a man and an embarrassment as president. He is trying to be a dictator whether you want to see it or not. Many of us can. Sadly he has some ill informed and yes stupid followers. I will say that you are just one of the ill informed and biased. I would not want to place myself in his core of followers. Our country and democracy is in serious times, we are watching the decline of a great democracy. I hope it doesn't go so far that even you finally see it. Annnnnd,,, What has the Liberal media and Liberal Politicians tried to do to him??
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Post by oped on Mar 31, 2019 9:00:10 GMT -5
Yeah, if you can’t tell the difference between pointing out legitimate, evidenced issues... and calling someone a pencil neck and ly8ng out your ass about everything from dying children to your golf game... well.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 31, 2019 13:00:01 GMT -5
This just in! The contagious Trump Derangement Syndrom has evolved into Trump Collusion Delusion Syndrom!
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Post by dondub on Mar 31, 2019 13:19:36 GMT -5
Of shit! Who lies about their golf game? That is a travesty.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 31, 2019 14:38:16 GMT -5
Of shit! Who lies about their golf game? That is a travesty. Who lies about the Great Lakes? Record deepness? What the hell is that? It makes no sense. None. Are they deeper than ever because he's the POTUS? Are they the deepest on earth? Deepest in the USA? None of the above. He just likes to lie. “You ready? Can you handle it?” he asked, according to The Plain-Dealer. “I don’t think you can handle it. I support the Great Lakes. Always have. They are beautiful. They are big, very deep, record deepness, right? And I am going to get, in honor of my friends, full funding of $300 million for the Great Lakes Restoration Initiative, which you have been trying to get for over 30 years. So, we will get it done.” www.penncapital-star.com/blog/they-are-big-very-deep-record-deepness-trump-will-fund-great-lakes-cleanup-after-all/Furthermore, he's the bloated dumbfuck who wanted to eliminate ALL funding for the Great Lakes.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 31, 2019 14:52:56 GMT -5
Mr. President, please request of Congress full funding if you think this is a good use of our money. BTW, it is not your money for you to use to "honor (your) friends".
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 31, 2019 23:32:51 GMT -5
name me one Mueller (or Mueller derived) case that has "not worked", so far.
failing to find one, perhaps you should stop asking this question. it is like asking:
"what if the sun doesn't come up tomorrow"
How about that one about collusion?? you seem to have missed the word CASE.
I stand by my comment.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Apr 1, 2019 1:32:41 GMT -5
I would love to say on my facebook how stupid his followers are. But I need to live around these people. I am so disappointed to see people I thought were good Christians and stood for the good in this world follow this anti Christ. I will never look at any of them the same.
The things that come out of his mouth are so stupid how could anyone believe this man. Other countries will not even consider his ideas till they see if he has the same one 2 times in a row. Oh sure Israel is kissing his ass, he is helping kill millions of Palestinians they have trapped in a corner, depriving them of anything and everything, cutting off aid, hope the arab leaders are stepping up to help them, they should. I wonder if they realize they are doing to them what the Nazis did to them in places like the ghettos where they tried starving them out. trumps solution over there is going to cause a war or blowup. Of course that gives the Israelis the excuse to wipe out the Palestinians. These are the people they threw off their land and took it over, amazing they just haven't gotten over that little set back. Yeah I know its all in the bible, well what should have been done is not this.
And here closing the border and cutting funds to help these people in their homelands is sure going to stop immigrants from flocking here. Everything he does is causing chaos and despair. OH and now I'm reading that his new health care plan is grants to states, basically making them fight among themselves to try and get money for insurance for their people. I'm sure he will see states like oh, California, and New York get nothing, the vindictive little bas****. I sure as hell hope he is voted out, but with his lying and people believe it, I don't know. He is destroying every department in the government and everything he can. If he is not a putin plant then he is doing a good job of acting like one. I just never thought this democracy was so vulnerable that it would have a despot for leader.
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 1, 2019 7:11:13 GMT -5
Of shit! Who lies about their golf game? That is a travesty. Who lies about the Great Lakes? Record deepness? What the hell is that? It makes no sense. None. Are they deeper than ever because he's the POTUS? Are they the deepest on earth? Deepest in the USA? None of the above. He just likes to lie. “You ready? Can you handle it?” he asked, according to The Plain-Dealer. “I don’t think you can handle it. I support the Great Lakes. Always have. They are beautiful. They are big, very deep, record deepness, right? And I am going to get, in honor of my friends, full funding of $300 million for the Great Lakes Restoration Initiative, which you have been trying to get for over 30 years. So, we will get it done.” www.penncapital-star.com/blog/they-are-big-very-deep-record-deepness-trump-will-fund-great-lakes-cleanup-after-all/Furthermore, he's the bloated dumbfuck who wanted to eliminate ALL funding for the Great Lakes. They've only been trying to fund that program for 10 years, not 30, and Trump has consistently stripped it of 90% of the funding they requested, and will probably turn around and do the same thing this year, despite what he said when he visited their city.
Other than that, Trump's statement was 100% true...
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 1, 2019 8:47:57 GMT -5
I would love to say on my facebook how stupid his followers are. But I need to live around these people. I am so disappointed to see people I thought were good Christians and stood for the good in this world follow this anti Christ. I will never look at any of them the same. The things that come out of his mouth are so stupid how could anyone believe this man. Other countries will not even consider his ideas till they see if he has the same one 2 times in a row. Oh sure Israel is kissing his ass, he is helping kill millions of Palestinians they have trapped in a corner, depriving them of anything and everything, cutting off aid, hope the arab leaders are stepping up to help them, they should. I wonder if they realize they are doing to them what the Nazis did to them in places like the ghettos where they tried starving them out. trumps solution over there is going to cause a war or blowup. Of course that gives the Israelis the excuse to wipe out the Palestinians. These are the people they threw off their land and took it over, amazing they just haven't gotten over that little set back. Yeah I know its all in the bible, well what should have been done is not this. And here closing the border and cutting funds to help these people in their homelands is sure going to stop immigrants from flocking here. Everything he does is causing chaos and despair. OH and now I'm reading that his new health care plan is grants to states, basically making them fight among themselves to try and get money for insurance for their people. I'm sure he will see states like oh, California, and New York get nothing, the vindictive little bas****. I sure as hell hope he is voted out, but with his lying and people believe it, I don't know. He is destroying every department in the government and everything he can. If he is not a putin plant then he is doing a good job of acting like one. I just never thought this democracy was so vulnerable that it would have a despot for leader. Since you are not a church goer, that is pretty much a lame attempt for you to label them on what you think they are or what they should be. Show me a damn link where Israel is killing millions of Palestinians.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Apr 1, 2019 9:08:50 GMT -5
Wow, Fox News making the watergate comparison? Interesting!
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Post by tallguy on Apr 1, 2019 9:48:29 GMT -5
Wow, Fox News making the watergate comparison? Interesting! To be fair, that is a Democratic contributor at FOX News, not one of their regular toadies. It would be more interesting if were otherwise.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 1, 2019 11:04:38 GMT -5
I would love to say on my facebook how stupid his followers are. But I need to live around these people. I am so disappointed to see people I thought were good Christians and stood for the good in this world follow this anti Christ. I will never look at any of them the same. The things that come out of his mouth are so stupid how could anyone believe this man. Other countries will not even consider his ideas till they see if he has the same one 2 times in a row. Oh sure Israel is kissing his ass, he is helping kill millions of Palestinians they have trapped in a corner, depriving them of anything and everything, cutting off aid, hope the arab leaders are stepping up to help them, they should. I wonder if they realize they are doing to them what the Nazis did to them in places like the ghettos where they tried starving them out. trumps solution over there is going to cause a war or blowup. Of course that gives the Israelis the excuse to wipe out the Palestinians. These are the people they threw off their land and took it over, amazing they just haven't gotten over that little set back. Yeah I know its all in the bible, well what should have been done is not this. And here closing the border and cutting funds to help these people in their homelands is sure going to stop immigrants from flocking here. Everything he does is causing chaos and despair. OH and now I'm reading that his new health care plan is grants to states, basically making them fight among themselves to try and get money for insurance for their people. I'm sure he will see states like oh, California, and New York get nothing, the vindictive little bas****. I sure as hell hope he is voted out, but with his lying and people believe it, I don't know. He is destroying every department in the government and everything he can. If he is not a putin plant then he is doing a good job of acting like one. I just never thought this democracy was so vulnerable that it would have a despot for leader. Since you are not a church goer, that is pretty much a lame attempt for you to label them on what you think they are or what they should be. Show me a damn link where Israel is killing millions of Palestinians. The Heresy of Christian Nationalism by Reverend John Pavlovitz
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Post by countrygirl2 on Apr 1, 2019 17:43:59 GMT -5
Oh it gets better, looks like Scott, who defrauded medicare of millions and millions is going to be over the new trump healthcare initiative. Well, isn't that grand! He has the best words and ideas too. Anyone else would still be in prison for that one. Sickening.
trump is just waiting for the courts to overturn Obamacare ACA to present it to all of us, the other repubs didn't know anything about it however, kind of dictatorship kind of stuff. Let's hope that doesn't happen.
Hey I have an idea, lets have Mexico build a wall on their south border. I looked it up only 691 miles. We could even pay for it and cost less then we are doing now. Of course they will fly over it, swim around it, and tunnel under it. No matter there will be a wall to the south, yeha!! I thought I had an original idea, then I found someone else wrote such an article last year. Darn. Most of the immigrants now are coming from those countries anyway.
They could name it the " Most Beautiful Trump Wall in the World" And put a statue up there with trump scowling and pointing south, maybe make him a little uniform so he could look like a general that he knows more then. It would be grand and wonderful and beautiful and the bestest and the greatest!!
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 1, 2019 18:08:50 GMT -5
...or we could SEAL the border, and lose BILLIONS in trade.
grand idea.
I guess I should order some forgings from Mexico before he does it, or I will have to discontinue one of my products.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Apr 1, 2019 19:16:37 GMT -5
I would love to say on my facebook how stupid his followers are. But I need to live around these people. I am so disappointed to see people I thought were good Christians and stood for the good in this world follow this anti Christ. I will never look at any of them the same. The things that come out of his mouth are so stupid how could anyone believe this man. Other countries will not even consider his ideas till they see if he has the same one 2 times in a row. Oh sure Israel is kissing his ass, he is helping kill millions of Palestinians they have trapped in a corner, depriving them of anything and everything, cutting off aid, hope the arab leaders are stepping up to help them, they should. I wonder if they realize they are doing to them what the Nazis did to them in places like the ghettos where they tried starving them out. trumps solution over there is going to cause a war or blowup. Of course that gives the Israelis the excuse to wipe out the Palestinians. These are the people they threw off their land and took it over, amazing they just haven't gotten over that little set back. Yeah I know its all in the bible, well what should have been done is not this. And here closing the border and cutting funds to help these people in their homelands is sure going to stop immigrants from flocking here. Everything he does is causing chaos and despair. OH and now I'm reading that his new health care plan is grants to states, basically making them fight among themselves to try and get money for insurance for their people. I'm sure he will see states like oh, California, and New York get nothing, the vindictive little bas****. I sure as hell hope he is voted out, but with his lying and people believe it, I don't know. He is destroying every department in the government and everything he can. If he is not a putin plant then he is doing a good job of acting like one. I just never thought this democracy was so vulnerable that it would have a despot for leader. Since you are not a church goer, that is pretty much a lame attempt for you to label them on what you think they are or what they should be. Show me a damn link where Israel is killing millions of Palestinians. I'm a churchgoer, and I agree with everything she said.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Apr 1, 2019 19:35:49 GMT -5
You better be getting them, the fool will likely do it. I would suggest anything anyone needs to order that's parts or something get them. He will do it I would almost bet. He learned nothing from the shutdown he did. Here is a man that thinks he is even in a higher authority then he is. Don't get me wrong of course he has a lofty position for sure. But he has the idea that he can do anything, there is no consequences so he just does it and so far that appears to be true, beyond me. I can only hope something not only clips his wings but takes them off completely. He is dangerous.
I did not know until today that the manufacturing index had been at a 2 year low, I thought it was going gangbusters, I guess not as they were saying it came up. Also they are saying retail sales are way down but people are just saving instead of spending, for real? If he does this its going to hit us hard. So I think he will. I have read some of his followers say we are making all this money off tariffs, I had to correct them. They didn't even realize THEY and all of us are paying it. Just no clue, so yes, I think he will do it.
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Post by tbop77 on Apr 2, 2019 6:40:18 GMT -5
This just in! The contagious Trump Derangement Syndrom has evolved into Trump Collusion Delusion Syndrom! Yeah, I agree. I believe the Trump Derangement Syndrome was caused by conservatives going through 8 years with a DEM president, a Black Dem president no less. They were so deranged, they elected Donald Trump. The collusion factor is that they see no problem with meeting with Russians to get dirt on your opponent and lying about it. Currently, I am seeing no cure for conservatives at this time. Symptoms include defending liars and stamping on the constitution.
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 15, 2019 7:17:10 GMT -5
Remember a couple weeks ago when Barr came out with his memo and Trump seized on it, claiming he had been fully vindicated, doing victory laps around the country, and praising Mueller as a very honorable public service?
Trump's done one of his 180s again, reverting back to bashing the '13 Trump Haters and Angry Democrats' he claims make up the Mueller team (only now, it's apparently grown to 18 Angry Democrats). www.apnews.com/1c8675363911488fba7f25d7e9783c3c
I'm curious to see just how much Barr will allow to become public (I have a feeling the initial release will be mostly redacted - we'll have to wait years, probably, to get to see the whole report) but Barr must be allowing at least some damning evidence to come out, or Trump wouldn't be on a tweeter rampage against Mueller again.
Supposedly, the redacted version will be out in 1 to 2 days. Let's see if Barr still remains Trump's best buddy once it does. Trump has a habit of eating his own.
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 18, 2019 9:17:46 GMT -5
Is it too early to say, again, We told you so!?
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 18, 2019 9:19:40 GMT -5
Is it too early to say, again, We told you so!? Yes.
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