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Post by Value Buy on Mar 12, 2019 9:38:18 GMT -5
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 12, 2019 9:48:35 GMT -5
and the fact there is nothing there and it was a conspiracy by Democrats and the Justice department to bring Trump down. I want to start the thread today before Mueller actually releases the findings, they become public, and everyone here crys FRAUD! .... You meant "... start (another) thread ...", right?
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 12, 2019 9:53:02 GMT -5
and the fact there is nothing there and it was a conspiracy by Democrats and the Justice department to bring Trump down. I want to start the thread today before Mueller actually releases the findings, they become public, and everyone here crys FRAUD! .... You meant "... start (another) thread ...", right? The writing is on the wall about collusion. Everyone but the far far left politicians are backing off collusion because the word has leaked there is none. As another poster here says, Do not doubt me ever, it is happening soon.
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 12, 2019 9:56:51 GMT -5
and the fact there is nothing there and it was a conspiracy by Democrats and the Justice department to bring Trump down. I want to start the thread today before Mueller actually releases the findings, they become public, and everyone here crys FRAUD! .... You meant "... start (another) thread ...", right? No Bills, The left was so sure it would take down Trump,,
When it comes out, If there is nothing there the Left will be screaming "Fraud" So this thread is different from all the others that were going to take Trump down!!
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 12, 2019 9:57:29 GMT -5
You meant "... start (another) thread ...", right? The writing is on the wall about collusion. Everyone but the far far left politicians are backing off collusion because the word has leaked there is none. As another poster here says, Do not doubt me ever, it is happening soon. So there is then the possibility of collunsion with Russia because that boast, "Don't doubt me. EVER", failed in the 2012 election and the ridiculous Red Tsunami predictions.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 12, 2019 9:58:56 GMT -5
The writing is on the wall about collusion. Everyone but the far far left politicians are backing off collusion because the word has leaked there is none. As another poster here says, Do not doubt me ever, it is happening soon. So there is then the possibility of collunsion with Russia because that boast, "Don't doubt me. EVER", failed in the 2012 election and the ridiculous Red Tsunami predictions. Not by me No possibility
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 13, 2019 7:27:21 GMT -5
Really the Mueller investigation almost doesn't matter anymore.
Initially, it appeared to be the Big Thing that might bring Trump down. However, with all the subsequent investigations opening in state and federal courts concerning Trump's illegal business practices (fraudulently overstating his net worth to obtain loans), the Trump Charity (fraudulently using charity bucks to pay off fines and buy shit for himself), the Inauguration Committee (fraudulently self dealing to siphon off the donated money by overcharging for use of Trump Inc properties into Trump Inc pockets), and the Trump Campaign (illegally paying off ex GF's without including that as campaign contribution) it appears that it won't be a Big Thing that brings Trump down, but a thousand shitty, grifty, oily illegal things that will.
Last month Fox announced they were downsizing Fox by selling off the entertainment parts to Disney. The 'news' part will be run by Murdoch's son Lachlan, who wants to push Fox back to the center, politically. The 'pro-Trump' talking heads - Hannity and Ingraham - have lost advertising money in the last few months, as Trump lost popularity during the long shut down. If Murdoch Jr succeeds in shutting down Trump's state propaganda machine, Trump is finished for sure. www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/06/rupert-murdoch-son-lachlan-moves-to-consolidate-power
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 13, 2019 7:32:17 GMT -5
Southern District of New York for the win.
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 13, 2019 8:06:15 GMT -5
Southern District of New York for the win.
Annd if that does not work , what is next,,, Oh that's right investigate the Kids,, Like they are doing now!
If that does not work,,, Hmmmmm, wait I got it !!, let's investigate the Grand kids,, There has to be something there!!
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 13, 2019 8:58:54 GMT -5
Demi, something is not doing well, how do you know?,, notice the farther this goes the quieter it gets. If there was something there, the chorus would be rising,, it is not! Which leads me to believe there is little there, otherwise the insiders would shouting from the highest hills.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 13, 2019 9:09:59 GMT -5
Interesting title, given that the report has not been released. Even if the report shows collusion though, that is not a slam dunk to get Trump. As HH points out above though, that is not even where the relevant action is right now. And as Nancy Pelosi points out ("He's not worth it"), Trump is becoming irrelevant anyway. Just keep his finger off the nuclear button. Just wanted you to be able to hear it here first, in print, so there is one thread out of about 35 other threads denouncing Mueller as being a "Trump planted agent" by the posters
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 13, 2019 9:20:11 GMT -5
Demi, something is not doing well, how do you know?,, notice the farther this goes the quieter it gets. If there was something there, the chorus would be rising,, it is not! Which leads me to believe there is little there, otherwise the insiders would shouting from the highest hills.
Coyote there have been zero 'insiders' in the Mueller investigation. Nadda. Zip.
In fact, it's been amazing how very little information has leaked out of Mr Muellers' investigation. He runs a very tight ship.
Consequently, despite various people claiming certainty about what the outcome of the Mueller investigation will be, no one really knows, except Mueller, and he's not talking.
My prediction is, regardless of what Mueller states, both sides will claim victory. But it almost doesn't matter, the really important things are happening at the SDNY.
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Post by laterbloomer on Mar 13, 2019 10:24:59 GMT -5
Cause you arn't confident you're going to like the results
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Post by laterbloomer on Mar 13, 2019 10:26:33 GMT -5
Well duh!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 10:38:25 GMT -5
Demi, something is not doing well, how do you know?,, notice the farther this goes the quieter it gets. If there was something there, the chorus would be rising,, it is not! Which leads me to believe there is little there, otherwise the insiders would shouting from the highest hills.
Coyote there have been zero 'insiders' in the Mueller investigation. Nadda. Zip.
In fact, it's been amazing how very little information has leaked out of Mr Muellers' investigation. He runs a very tight ship.
Consequently, despite various people claiming certainty about what the outcome of the Mueller investigation will be, no one really knows, except Mueller, and he's not talking.
My prediction is, regardless of what Mueller states, both sides will claim victory. But it almost doesn't matter, the really important things are happening at the SDNY.
I thought the real important things were happening with Cohen ? Or was it Manafort, or, or,....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 10:40:47 GMT -5
Demi, something is not doing well, how do you know?,, notice the farther this goes the quieter it gets. If there was something there, the chorus would be rising,, it is not! Which leads me to believe there is little there, otherwise the insiders would shouting from the highest hills.
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Post by dezii on Mar 13, 2019 11:19:31 GMT -5
As far as claiming there is nothing there...who knows except Mueller and his people....we'll shortly..[according to rumors, seem the investigation is coming to a close] know...Have to ask, why are u so bent on there not having such a investigation...seems a lot f bad boys found out so far...seems one of the biggest bad boys being sentenced as I post here right now... As far as Dems and impeachment is concerned...as long as Pelosi is not hot for it and the pubs control the Senate and will want to stay with the Donald, of course the Dems won't impeach the man... Seems all u are interested in in your thread is what u love doing when u post new threads.... fits u very well.
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Post by dezii on Mar 13, 2019 11:26:40 GMT -5
Really the Mueller investigation almost doesn't matter anymore.
Initially, it appeared to be the Big Thing that might bring Trump down. However, with all the subsequent investigations opening in state and federal courts concerning Trump's illegal business practices (fraudulently overstating his net worth to obtain loans), the Trump Charity (fraudulently using charity bucks to pay off fines and buy shit for himself), the Inauguration Committee (fraudulently self dealing to siphon off the donated money by overcharging for use of Trump Inc properties into Trump Inc pockets), and the Trump Campaign (illegally paying off ex GF's without including that as campaign contribution) it appears that it won't be a Big Thing that brings Trump down, but a thousand shitty, grifty, oily illegal things that will.
Last month Fox announced they were downsizing Fox by selling off the entertainment parts to Disney. The 'news' part will be run by Murdoch's son Lachlan, who wants to push Fox back to the center, politically. The 'pro-Trump' talking heads - Hannity and Ingraham - have lost advertising money in the last few months, as Trump lost popularity during the long shut down. If Murdoch Jr succeeds in shutting down Trump's state propaganda machine, Trump is finished for sure. www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/06/rupert-murdoch-son-lachlan-moves-to-consolidate-power
I question if "Fox" will change it's direction politically...they have played that stance to the highest ratings of any media sources...while saome advertising may have dropped off...I am suggesting there is still lots of profitability involved here.. I personally never ever watch "Fox" so my thoughts are just a guess...
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 13, 2019 12:30:48 GMT -5
none of us need that, for two reasons:
1) impeachment would do nothing for Democrats. Clinton was impeached, and he is now one of the most popular presidents of the last generation. 2) none of us expected him to be impeached. it won't even get HEARD in the Senate, let alone have the votes required to do anything helpful (like throwing his sorry ass out of office).
why are you wasting our time with this and obsessing over it?
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Post by swamp on Mar 13, 2019 13:17:53 GMT -5
impeaching him will just make him a martyr to the MAGA crowd. Just let it run its course.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 13, 2019 13:30:47 GMT -5
I was going to post this article earlier and I thought, why bother. Did you read towards the end of the article where NPR reported really older never Trump democrats who are near death are trying to hang in there so they can die happy with collusion being acknowldeged? Boy, are they going to die unhappy. In regards to no leaks, what the heck was the last year and a half where all we read or heard on media was "a source who remains anominous, WAS reporting collusion collusion collusion three times a day from the Mueller team? Must have been ah, what, FAKE NEWS.
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 13, 2019 13:35:13 GMT -5
impeaching him will just make him a martyr to the MAGA crowd. Just let it run its course. Also might inspire some white supremists and other marginally unhinged people to start shooting, like that guy who killed all those people at the synagogue. Between Trump and Fox they keep chumming the water to try to keep their devotees right on the edge of rioting.
However voting him out of office = the people have spoken.
Granted, the SS might have to bodily lift him up and remove him from the Oval Office, but we're still a democracy, and if we vote in someone new, Trump will have to go.
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 13, 2019 13:38:19 GMT -5
I was going to post this article earlier and I thought, why bother. Did you read towards the end of the article where NPR reported really older never Trump democrats who are near death are trying to hang in there so they can die happy with collusion being acknowldeged? Boy, are they going to die unhappy. In regards to no leaks, what the heck was the last year and a half where all we read or heard on media was "a source who remains anominous, WAS reporting collusion collusion collusion three times a day from the Mueller team? Must have been ah, what, FAKE NEWS. I don't recall a single source WITHIN the Mueller team who alleged collusion.
Thousands of other people have. Dems in the House, Dems in the Senate, Dems on special committees, previous DOJ members, previous military members, previous State Department members, lots of never Trump GOPers, I think Kelly Anne Conway's husband commented on it - but never anyone claiming to have gotten any news directly from a member of the Mueller team.
If you can find one, please post it.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 13, 2019 15:33:43 GMT -5
impeaching him will just make him a martyr to the MAGA crowd. Just let it run its course. same attitude I have toward terrorism.
don't give them what they want the most: martyrdom. let them fight it out in the court system and die anonymously in some shitty American private prison.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 13, 2019 15:35:14 GMT -5
I was going to post this article earlier and I thought, why bother. Did you read towards the end of the article where NPR reported really older never Trump democrats who are near death are trying to hang in there so they can die happy with collusion being acknowldeged? Boy, are they going to die unhappy. so, let me get this straight:
you don't think there was any coordination between the Trump campaign and the Russians to tip the 2016 election in favor of Trump?
please tell me you are not serious. because from where I sit, you could drown in the evidence presented THUSFAR.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 13, 2019 15:37:47 GMT -5
Southern District of New York for the win.
Annd if that does not work , !
name me one Mueller (or Mueller derived) case that has "not worked", so far.
failing to find one, perhaps you should stop asking this question. it is like asking:
"what if the sun doesn't come up tomorrow"
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 13, 2019 15:39:02 GMT -5
Demi, something is not doing well, how do you know?,, notice the farther this goes the quieter it gets. it is quieter because all of the salient points have already been made.
we don't like repeating ourselves.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 13, 2019 15:53:23 GMT -5
The low hanging fruit have been dealt with; indictments issued, trials held, plea deals given (where appropriate), sentences issued.
No one knows but the Mueller investigative team what is to come next. No one.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 13, 2019 16:18:09 GMT -5
I was going to post this article earlier and I thought, why bother. Did you read towards the end of the article where NPR reported really older never Trump democrats who are near death are trying to hang in there so they can die happy with collusion being acknowldeged? Boy, are they going to die unhappy. In regards to no leaks, what the heck was the last year and a half where all we read or heard on media was "a source who remains anominous, WAS reporting collusion collusion collusion three times a day from the Mueller team? Must have been ah, what, FAKE NEWS. Wishing an unhappy death are you?
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