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Post by dezailoooooo on Dec 22, 2016 10:58:12 GMT -5
His supporters defend the indefensible. They refuse to see reality. They are so busy gloating that they cannot/will not accept the smallest criticism, no matter how valid. The media is normalizing the abnormal. And some posters are being told (er "suggested") not to post so many threads. On a freakin forum where people are free to ignore whatever they want. Frankly, if it annoys the Trumpeteers to be reminded of what a corrupt, unqualified, dickhead they voted for, and are still supporting, so much the better The headline spam is helping to "normalize the abnormal", and annoying the Trumpeteers is making them more determined to ignore anything abnormal he does. Do you get that? You can be loud and indiscriminate in your criticism, or you can be taken seriously. You can't have both. I should think you'd want to be selective in your criticism and be taken seriously. I agree there might be a thread or two that is silly and loud so to speak but in looking over them, I find the vast majority of them are seriouse in their content and criticism....personally , I believe that no rationale speak and argument would sway the Donalds supporters from doing anything but publickly slavishly pile on the adoration, as in his mob..oops ..rallys.. raise their fists in salute as they mouth his favorite cry.."lock her up, lock her up"..still semi encouraged by him. Country is so split , most likely permanently...case in point..in that little film on Obama I posted...if u notice when he is addressing both houses of Congress...there is absolutly no reaction from the leader of the house..granted opposition leader..but come on already..not one word he could find favor with...and this is a important country leader..as said...the country .IMHO..is permanently split.unless it was attacked say another 9/11...even then, there would quickly arise the arguments between the two sides as to who's fault it was... The Donald is calling for healing, coming together...what is he doing to bring that about beyond asking for it ..demanding it ..but for himself in speech and actions..nada..still with his Nurenberg style victory tours...with all the fan fair, pomp and ceremony..only thing really missing is the jack boots.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 22, 2016 11:12:37 GMT -5
At the very least we have a moral obligation to: 1. Remind everyone of what was unacceptable about the loutish commentary Trump spouted throughout the campaign. 2. To hold him to account, and to expose wrongheadedness and wrongdoing when he and his retinue commit either. This is about structuring it in the right way for a message board, and not doing more harm than good. Think of it this way: Would you want me starting up a thread every time I see something morally objectionable? Would you want me commenting in every thread that concerns a moral issue? I could easily chip in moral indignation in twenty discussions per week rather than my usual one or two, claiming it was my moral obligation to protest with that frequency, but could you stand it? Even the mods would be putting me on ignore. This isn't unlike that. If it hasn't burned people out already, it's going to. Structure, selectivity, and potential for discussion are important.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 22, 2016 11:13:35 GMT -5
The headline spam is helping to "normalize the abnormal", and annoying the Trumpeteers is making them more determined to ignore anything abnormal he does. Do you get that? You can be loud and indiscriminate in your criticism, or you can be taken seriously. You can't have both. I should think you'd want to be selective in your criticism and be taken seriously. I agree there might be a thread or two that is silly and loud so to speak but in looking over them, I find the vast majority of them are seriouse in their content and criticism....personally , I believe that no rationale speak and argument would sway the Donalds supporters from doing anything but publickly slavishly pile on the adoration, as in his mob..oops ..rallys.. raise their fists in salute as they mouth his favorite cry.."lock her up, lock her up"..still semi encouraged by him. Country is so split , most likely permanently...case in point..in that little film on Obama I posted...if u notice when he is addressing both houses of Congress...there is absolutly no reaction from the leader of the house..granted opposition leader..but come on already..not one word he could find favor with...and this is a important country leader..as said...the country .IMHO..is permanently split.unless it was attacked say another 9/11...even then, there would quickly arise the arguments between the two sides as to who's fault it was... The Donald is calling for healing, coming together...what is he doing to bring that about beyond asking for it ..demanding it ..but for himself in speech and actions..nada..still with his Nurenberg style victory tours...with all the fan fair, pomp and ceremony..only thing really missing is the jack boots. I believe the topics are serious. That's not the point.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 22, 2016 11:55:29 GMT -5
I can't believe there isn't a thread title about his red baseball hats. Don't fret...it's on the list...just so much else to complain about it's taking time to get too You mean you have not bought one or two yet? I am hearing Trump hat burnng will replace flag burning protests in 2017
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Dec 22, 2016 11:57:02 GMT -5
At the very least we have a moral obligation to: 1. Remind everyone of what was unacceptable about the loutish commentary Trump spouted throughout the campaign. 2. To hold him to account, and to expose wrongheadedness and wrongdoing when he and his retinue commit either. This is about structuring it in the right way for a message board, and not doing more harm than good. Think of it this way: Would you want me starting up a thread every time I see something morally objectionable? Would you want me commenting in every thread that concerns a moral issue? I could easily chip in moral indignation in twenty discussions per week rather than my usual one or two, claiming it was my moral obligation to protest with that frequency, but could you stand it? Even the mods would be putting me on ignore. This isn't unlike that. If it hasn't burned people out already, it's going to. Structure, selectivity, and potential for discussion are important. " The Right Way"As defined by whom?
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Post by dezailoooooo on Dec 22, 2016 12:01:39 GMT -5
This is about structuring it in the right way for a message board, and not doing more harm than good. Think of it this way: Would you want me starting up a thread every time I see something morally objectionable? Would you want me commenting in every thread that concerns a moral issue? I could easily chip in moral indignation in twenty discussions per week rather than my usual one or two, claiming it was my moral obligation to protest with that frequency, but could you stand it? Even the mods would be putting me on ignore. This isn't unlike that. If it hasn't burned people out already, it's going to. Structure, selectivity, and potential for discussion are important. Oh, I think we can do both.... "Would you want me starting up a thread every time I see something morally objectionable? Would you want me commenting in every thread that concerns a moral issue?"If u wrote a good well thought out premise..reason for the thread...why not. up to me whether to participate or not..probably would unless no interest in topic... Thing is, this is a message board...actually this particuler part it of is dedicated to politics..so if your thread was regarding politics go for it...
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 22, 2016 12:05:06 GMT -5
This is about structuring it in the right way for a message board, and not doing more harm than good. Think of it this way: Would you want me starting up a thread every time I see something morally objectionable? Would you want me commenting in every thread that concerns a moral issue? I could easily chip in moral indignation in twenty discussions per week rather than my usual one or two, claiming it was my moral obligation to protest with that frequency, but could you stand it? Even the mods would be putting me on ignore. This isn't unlike that. If it hasn't burned people out already, it's going to. Structure, selectivity, and potential for discussion are important. " The Right Way"As defined by whom? Me. "These are all just recommendations. By me, personally. This isn't official and it isn't endorsed by anybody." - Reply #34, in black and white. The last part isn't strictly true. Green Eyed Lady and Value Buy have offered de facto endorsements, deminmaine is getting there, and ken a.k.a OMK "understands". I'm hoping to get the nod from the SEIU and the NAACP too.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 22, 2016 12:08:52 GMT -5
Oh, I think we can do both.... "Would you want me starting up a thread every time I see something morally objectionable? Would you want me commenting in every thread that concerns a moral issue?"If u wrote a good well thought out premise..reason for the thread...why not. up to me whether to participate or not..probably would unless no interest in topic... Thing is, this is a message board...actually this particuler part it of is dedicated to politics..so if your thread was regarding politics go for it... I appreciate the thought, but the fact is that all but three posters would eventually ignore literally everything I said.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 22, 2016 12:19:43 GMT -5
"Would you want me starting up a thread every time I see something morally objectionable? Would you want me commenting in every thread that concerns a moral issue?"If u wrote a good well thought out premise..reason for the thread...why not. up to me whether to participate or not..probably would unless no interest in topic... Thing is, this is a message board...actually this particuler part it of is dedicated to politics..so if your thread was regarding politics go for it... I appreciate the thought, but the fact is that all but three posters would eventually ignore literally everything I said. Based on the outrage most of the posters show towards you, I sincerely think all but three posters would stop reading your threads. They live vicariously through them
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Dec 22, 2016 12:21:37 GMT -5
Oh, I think we can do both.... "Would you want me starting up a thread every time I see something morally objectionable? Would you want me commenting in every thread that concerns a moral issue?"If u wrote a good well thought out premise..reason for the thread...why not. up to me whether to participate or not..probably would unless no interest in topic... Thing is, this is a message board...actually this particuler part it of is dedicated to politics..so if your thread was regarding politics go for it... You probably wouldn't mind, Dezi, but about 99% of the rest of the board (including me) would mind a LOT. Nobody wants to see Virgil's moral stances spread out over 400 threads. In fact, most people would have an out-and-out shit fit about it. Guaranteed.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Dec 22, 2016 12:22:22 GMT -5
"Would you want me starting up a thread every time I see something morally objectionable? Would you want me commenting in every thread that concerns a moral issue?"If u wrote a good well thought out premise..reason for the thread...why not. up to me whether to participate or not..probably would unless no interest in topic... Thing is, this is a message board...actually this particuler part it of is dedicated to politics..so if your thread was regarding politics go for it... I appreciate the thought, but the fact is that all but three posters would eventually ignore literally everything I said. There would be 3 left? That's optimistic.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 22, 2016 12:26:17 GMT -5
I appreciate the thought, but the fact is that all but three posters would eventually ignore literally everything I said. There would be 3 left? That's optimistic. my, aren't WE feeling sassy today?
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Dec 22, 2016 12:27:47 GMT -5
"Would you want me starting up a thread every time I see something morally objectionable? Would you want me commenting in every thread that concerns a moral issue?"If u wrote a good well thought out premise..reason for the thread...why not. up to me whether to participate or not..probably would unless no interest in topic... Thing is, this is a message board...actually this particuler part it of is dedicated to politics..so if your thread was regarding politics go for it... You probably wouldn't mind, Dezi, but about 99% of the rest of the board (including me) would mind a LOT. Nobody wants to see Virgil's moral stances spread out over 400 threads. In fact, most people would have an out-and-out shit fit about it. Guaranteed.
If a poster's threads bother you, the forum has a handy tool - it's called a "blocker". Instead of demanding that posters self-censor, why not just use it? win-win
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Dec 22, 2016 12:28:14 GMT -5
There would be 3 left? That's optimistic. my, aren't WE feeling sassy today? You remain a gentleman. "Sassy" isn't the word I'd use. My back hurts and it's making me positively....sassy.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 22, 2016 12:29:01 GMT -5
You probably wouldn't mind, Dezi, but about 99% of the rest of the board (including me) would mind a LOT. Nobody wants to see Virgil's moral stances spread out over 400 threads. In fact, most people would have an out-and-out shit fit about it. Guaranteed.
If a poster's threads bother you, the forum has a handy tool - it's called a "blocker". Instead of demanding that posters self-censor, why not just use it? win-win LOL, and you are fast approaching the dreaded Blocker function!
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Dec 22, 2016 12:30:23 GMT -5
You probably wouldn't mind, Dezi, but about 99% of the rest of the board (including me) would mind a LOT. Nobody wants to see Virgil's moral stances spread out over 400 threads. In fact, most people would have an out-and-out shit fit about it. Guaranteed.
If a poster's threads bother you, the forum has a handy tool - it's called a "blocker". Instead of demanding that posters self-censor, why not just use it? win-win I'm not demanding anything. I'd ask you to provide proof of that but you are too busy being all angry and lashing out at people willy nilly. I think Dezi's subject are interesting and I like reading them. Why would I block them?
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Dec 22, 2016 12:30:36 GMT -5
If a poster's threads bother you, the forum has a handy tool - it's called a "blocker". Instead of demanding that posters self-censor, why not just use it? win-win LOL, and you are fast approaching the dreaded Blocker function! Awww VB. You flatter me!
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Post by dezailoooooo on Dec 22, 2016 12:31:50 GMT -5
"Would you want me starting up a thread every time I see something morally objectionable? Would you want me commenting in every thread that concerns a moral issue?"If u wrote a good well thought out premise..reason for the thread...why not. up to me whether to participate or not..probably would unless no interest in topic... Thing is, this is a message board...actually this particuler part it of is dedicated to politics..so if your thread was regarding politics go for it... You probably wouldn't mind, Dezi, but about 99% of the rest of the board (including me) would mind a LOT. Nobody wants to see Virgil's moral stances spread out over 400 threads. In fact, most people would have an out-and-out shit fit about it. Guaranteed.
No I wouldn't mind...especially if his reason for posting, putting up a thread, was well thought out and written which my years of dealing with Virgil here I know would be first rate.. Again, all here have the right to skip threads, comments , and move on...reason for this zone is communication with others and not only ones who ome might be in agreement with..why else are we here for? all fixed on my end...
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 22, 2016 12:34:05 GMT -5
You probably wouldn't mind, Dezi, but about 99% of the rest of the board (including me) would mind a LOT. Nobody wants to see Virgil's moral stances spread out over 400 threads. In fact, most people would have an out-and-out shit fit about it. Guaranteed.
No I wouldn't mind...especially if his reason for posting, putting up a thread, was well thought out and written which my years of dealing with Virgil here I know would be first rate.. Again, all here have the right to skip threads, comments , and move on...reason for this zone is communication with others and not only ones who ome might be in agreement with..why else are we here for? If one has a problem like this . my feelings are, and please not thinking as a diss...but possible better to go into a quiet room somewhere and contemplate say the rate of growth toe and finger nails..why one is faster or slower then the other..Possible burn some insense too...possible even a scented candle too... Strange how some people giving the advice are the one's that should be listening to what they are saying.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Dec 22, 2016 12:34:53 GMT -5
If a poster's threads bother you, the forum has a handy tool - it's called a "blocker". Instead of demanding that posters self-censor, why not just use it? win-win I'm not demanding anything. I'd ask you to provide proof of that but you are too busy being all angry and lashing out at people willy nilly. I think Dezi's subject are interesting and I like reading them. Why would I block them?
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 22, 2016 12:42:12 GMT -5
No I wouldn't mind...especially if his reason for posting, putting up a thread, was well thought out and written which my years of dealing with Virgil here I know would be first rate.. Again, all here have the right to skip threads, comments , and move on...reason for this zone is communication with others and not only ones who ome might be in agreement with..why else are we here for? If one has a problem like this . my feelings are, and please not thinking as a diss...but possible better to go into a quiet room somewhere and contemplate say the rate of growth toe and finger nails..why one is faster or slower then the other..Possible burn some insense too...possible even a scented candle too... That's beneath you. I would have expected it from someone else, but not from you. You have a Merry Christmas. Dez, how is one not to take your last two sentences other than anything a s a "diss"?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 12:48:34 GMT -5
Not to nitpick or anything, be he won't be POTUS for nearly a month. No reason not to start early! Get your licks in now before he can even possibly do something right after taking office!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 12:55:26 GMT -5
I thought, at the time, that was a bad idea. Like so many other times, I was wrong. I don't like the principle of it, but I'd support it in extreme cases. Somebody creating more than 30 threads per week, for instance.I think one poster actually got that bad in 2012. YMAM (which was still NMSNM at that point) was half NMSNM, half Drudge Report newsfeed. Some consider a number of threads started as like a currency/level of wealth, so to speak, on a forum. It also provides a feeling of control. (IMHO of course) Some also aspire to the "number of posts" theory as a similar self wealth/notoriety effect on a forum. Each to his own. Best that all recognize this of course.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Dec 22, 2016 13:08:59 GMT -5
I'm poor! I thought I was just middle class, but I'm poor!
Merry Christmas to you and yours, Dio.,
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 13:09:12 GMT -5
Is it possible to auto censor "she won the popular vote" to "citizen's arrrrrest..citizen's arrrrest"? Only if we can auto censor something that is true too that is less important like Trump won more counties. She won the popular vote. As some like to post, get over it. But the counties are "more important" than the illegal votes in just a couple of high population, sanctuary cities, without voter ID.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 13:10:25 GMT -5
I'm poor! I thought I was just middle class, but I'm poor!
Merry Christmas to you and yours, Dio., All the best to you and your family and friends also.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Dec 22, 2016 13:10:44 GMT -5
I'm poor! I thought I was just middle class, but I'm poor!
Merry Christmas to you and yours, Dio., All the best to you and your family and friends also. Thank you.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Dec 22, 2016 13:12:18 GMT -5
That's beneath you. I would have expected it from someone else, but not from you. You have a Merry Christmas. Dez, how is one not to take your last two sentences other than anything a s a "diss"? ahhh ok....stand corrected...sorry...will remove...up to others to do same...
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Dec 22, 2016 13:18:38 GMT -5
President Trump Pickled ME? LOL!
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