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Post by Value Buy on Feb 9, 2016 20:56:21 GMT -5
Does Bush get to claim he did well or is this a disappointment. He exceeded expectations. Just ask all the bashers from this board!
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 9, 2016 21:00:05 GMT -5
I only ever hear Democrats say this. Yeah i love it when Dems try to tell us who we Should run. Why I don't think I mentionrd anyone else in my post but myself. If you see yourself in my post, well you have issues.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 9, 2016 21:03:13 GMT -5
Bernie is behind the magic curtain of the campaign celebration headquarters shooting basketball hoops with his family in the gym behind the curtain. Hope he does not have a weak heart!
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 9, 2016 21:05:48 GMT -5
Trump 34% Kasich 15% JEB! 12% Cruz 12% Rubio 10% Christie 8%
Nineteen percent win right now.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 9, 2016 21:10:24 GMT -5
Of course Sanders was going to clean Hillary's clock in NH considering he's from next door. So I'm not sure what bus shooby thinks she is being thrown under. Not necessarily true. Who was the Vermont Governor, howled to the moon, went to New Hampshire and was crushed? Howard Dean
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 9, 2016 21:24:46 GMT -5
Trump 34% Kasich 15% JEB! 12% Cruz 12% Rubio 10% Christie 8% Nineteen percent win right now. 18. Kasich has 16%, and he pretty much has all night. edit: 2/3 of the GOP didn't vote for Trump. not sure how well that plays out for him.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 9, 2016 21:26:22 GMT -5
Trump 34% Kasich 15% JEB! 12% Cruz 12% Rubio 10% Christie 8% Nineteen percent win right now. 18. Kasich has 16%, and he pretty much has all night. Yes, it is fluid. Keeps changing back and forth.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 9, 2016 21:26:45 GMT -5
Bernie is speaking now.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 9, 2016 21:27:00 GMT -5
18. Kasich has 16%, and he pretty much has all night. Yes, it is fluid. Keeps changing back and forth. he was as high as 17, but the gap has been basically 18 all night.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 9, 2016 21:29:26 GMT -5
What have we learned from Iowa and New Hampshire? The electorate is angry. And not going to take it anymore. Both sides are feeling they are not being represented by Congress, and to a lesser extent, our President. I say the President, because if they believed we were being represented by him Hillary would have it sowed up tonight and the Democratic race would be over.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 9, 2016 21:31:14 GMT -5
Yes, it is fluid. Keeps changing back and forth. he was as high as 17, but the gap has been basically 18 all night. My post 36 reported CNN stats. It is what it was.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 21:31:57 GMT -5
Trump 34% Kasich 15% JEB! 12% Cruz 12% Rubio 10% Christie 8% Nineteen percent win right now. 18. Kasich has 16%, and he pretty much has all night. edit: 2/3 of the GOP didn't vote for Trump. not sure how well that plays out for him. If you want to use the old "{percent}% didn't vote for {candidate}" strategy... then... it would also be true to say the following: "Over 4/5 of the GOP didn't vote for {insert GOP candidate, other than Trump, here}"
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 9, 2016 21:35:21 GMT -5
Does Bush get to claim he did well or is this a disappointment. He exceeded expectations. Just ask all the bashers from this board! these were the last poll results: T31.2 R14.0 K13.5 C11.8 B11.5 these are the latest returns from NH: T33.9 K15.6 C11.8 B11.5 R10.5 Bush and Cruz are precisely at their polling average. Kasich is overperforming. Trump is overperforming. Christie is overperforming. Rubio is underperforming.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 9, 2016 21:36:27 GMT -5
he was as high as 17, but the gap has been basically 18 all night. My post 36 reported CNN stats. It is what it was. mmkay. i am just telling you that the gap has basically been 18 all night. it was 30 at 7:45 it was 16 at 8:00
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 9, 2016 21:41:08 GMT -5
18. Kasich has 16%, and he pretty much has all night. edit: 2/3 of the GOP didn't vote for Trump. not sure how well that plays out for him. If you want to use the old "{percent}% didn't vote for {candidate}" strategy... then... it would also be true to say the following: "Over 4/5 of the GOP didn't vote for {insert GOP candidate, other than Trump, here}" in case you missed my point, there will be less than 8 candidates on March 5th.
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Post by imawino on Feb 9, 2016 21:41:30 GMT -5
I only ever hear Democrats say this. Yeah i love it when Dems try to tell us who we Should run. Are you hearing voices? What Dems are telling you who you should run? If you're trying to insinuate that you can only have an opinion about candidates of the party you are registered to vote in, your posting count is going to take a pretty substantial hit. How long is your usual gap between posts about Hillary?
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 9, 2016 21:43:32 GMT -5
Yeah i love it when Dems try to tell us who we Should run. Are you hearing voices? What Dems are telling you who you should run? If you're trying to insinuate that you can only have an opinion about candidates of the party you are registered to vote in, your posting count is going to take a pretty substantial hit. How long is your usual gap between posts about Hillary? seriously. nobody is saying "who you should run". not Republicans. not Democrats. we ONLY say who we think will be competitive, and who will likely win. Trump does not make either of those lists for me. run him if you like. run Ronald McDonald and Pluto while you are at it.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 9, 2016 21:44:42 GMT -5
My post 36 reported CNN stats. It is what it was. mmkay. i am just telling you that the gap has basically been 18 all night. it was 30 at 7:45 it was 16 at 8:00 No problem. I really hate they all called the winner at 7pm when people were still in line. Iowa with only about two hours of caucus, with virtually no exit polling stats forced them to wait for the vote to be counted. Tonight they had all day of exit polling to put together. Will love to see the voter demographic breakouts on both sides tomorrow. I think Bernie's followers are more concise and in line with his thoughts and statements than Trump's backers are. Terrorism and immigration were not the number one issue tonight and he still won by the projection expected. Makes me wonder if his backing his really stronger than the media thinks, and Trump's outrageous statements are not the over riding factor. Just a bunch of angry Republicans and Independents that are going to demand an outsider on the ticket, no matter what.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 9, 2016 21:46:14 GMT -5
i think that the most interesting race is for 3rd.
if Bush comes in 3rd, that puts him in a way better position than i would have imagined.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 9, 2016 21:47:34 GMT -5
i think the list of realistic candidates after tonight is five persons long.
i am not sure Rubio is one of them.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 9, 2016 21:48:14 GMT -5
ok, i have bored you enough for tonight. happy fat tuesday, everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 21:48:50 GMT -5
Unfortunately in too many states Independents can't vote in the primary...
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Post by PauletteG on Feb 9, 2016 21:52:04 GMT -5
I hope a USan will answer my question:
As the Republican and the Democratic candidates (EXCEPT FOR INCUMBENT PRESIDENTS RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION) who prevailed in New Hampshire primaries in 2000 through 2012 did not win the US Presidential election, what position rank(s) of the candidates should we pay attention to for attaining probable national victory in November? Second? Fourth? Are people just interested in NH because they're not fatigued by election reporting? Which states' primaries have been more reliable in predicting the next President?
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 9, 2016 21:58:49 GMT -5
Trump 34%
Kasich 16%
Cruz 13%
Bush 11%
Trump is making his acceptance speech.
Cruz, actually did well since he basically disappeared from media attention the last two days.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 22:10:10 GMT -5
If you want to use the old "{percent}% didn't vote for {candidate}" strategy... then... it would also be true to say the following: "Over 4/5 of the GOP didn't vote for {insert GOP candidate, other than Trump, here}" in case you missed my point, there will be less than 8 candidates on March 5th. Didn't miss your point at all. Did you miss mine? Just because all votes not for Trump now exist as they do... doesn't mean they will still be against Trump when there are less players on the field.
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Post by chiver78 on Feb 9, 2016 22:24:34 GMT -5
I'm watching Kasich now. he was one that impressed me at first, until I dug a little deeper into the overall platform he put out there. some stuff scared me. but listening tonight, he sounds way more sane than the rest of the ballot.
oh, and would someone please advise Trump to stop wearing the safety goggles in the tanning booth?? he looks ridiculous
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 9, 2016 22:26:16 GMT -5
I hope a USan will answer my question: As the Republican and the Democratic candidates ( EXCEPT FOR INCUMBENT PRESIDENTS RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION) who prevailed in New Hampshire primaries in 2000 through 2012 did not win the US Presidential election, what position rank(s) of the candidates should we pay attention to for attaining probable national victory in November? Second? Fourth? Are people just interested in NH because they're not fatigued by election reporting? Which states' primaries have been more reliable in predicting the next President? As the next few primaries narrow the candidate list, the polls become very accurate. Just so you know, A Republican candidate has never not won either Iowa or New Hampshire and gone on to win the Presidency. There is always a first time though. Since Cruz is slipping, that leaves Donald to take it. President Clinton on the Democratic side did lose both and go on to win the whole thing. If any Republican could do it, it is either Bush or Kasich. I do not see Rubio able to do it.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 9, 2016 22:28:19 GMT -5
I'm watching Kasich now. he was one that impressed me at first, until I dug a little deeper into the overall platform he put out there. some stuff scared me. but listening tonight, he sounds way more sane than the rest of the ballot. oh, and would someone please advise Trump to stop wearing the safety goggles in the tanning booth?? he looks ridiculous "sane" is no longer a reasonable requirement to win the election. This year it is "madder than hell and we are not going to take it any longer" on both sides of the political spectrum.
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Post by fishy999 on Feb 9, 2016 22:31:07 GMT -5
That's the big question isn't it- Trump has his 35% or whatever- but it ain't 50. 65% did not vote for him- where do the votes go when other people fall out. I don't think he can pull it off if it goes down to two people. I think Rubio is over- angry robot not going to cut it.
I hope at least 3-4 bail after this but I won't hold my breath. I am OK with Bush or Kasich winning- I want no part of a Cruz, Trump, or now a Rubio presidency.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 22:36:06 GMT -5
That's the big question isn't it- Trump has his 35% or whatever- but it ain't 50. 65% did not vote for him- where do the votes go when other people fall out. I don't think he can pull it off if it goes down to two people. I think Rubio is over- angry robot not going to cut it. I hope at least 3-4 bail after this but I won't hold my breath. I am OK with Bush or Kasich winning- I want no part of a Cruz, Trump, or now a Rubio presidency. I think that depends on the "two people"... As I mentioned to djpolldancer... if you want to go the "% didn't vote for" route, then "over 80%" didn't vote for {insert any GOP candidate OTHER THAN Trump here} Don't get me wrong... I'm not a supporter of Trump. I just refuse to cast him aside before his time is officially done.
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