AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Dec 17, 2011 23:27:27 GMT -5
so, nobody on this thread has said that Obama has it sewn up. does anyone know anyone NOT on this thread who thinks so? Even my liberal friends- and I have quite a few (Hello, Chicago?) have said they believe Obama is going to lose because many liberal Democrats are angry that Obama isn't kook left enough for them. I don't get that- and I've heard this bluster before and they still voted for Clinton. But sewn up? Not by a long shot. Don't know a soul who thinks that.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 17, 2011 23:46:23 GMT -5
so, nobody on this thread has said that Obama has it sewn up. does anyone know anyone NOT on this thread who thinks so? Even my liberal friends- and I have quite a few (Hello, Chicago?) have said they believe Obama is going to lose because many liberal Democrats are angry that Obama isn't kook left enough for them. I don't get that- and I've heard this bluster before and they still voted for Clinton. But sewn up? Not by a long shot. Don't know a soul who thinks that. ME.............NEITHER!
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Post by Phoenix84 on Dec 19, 2011 6:46:56 GMT -5
"Short answer- Obama's odds of being re-elected are somewhere around 55% to 60% in my book. The media STILL doesn't care who he really is, and in spite of three years of confirmation in the bag that he's the hard left nut many of us suspected he would be-- the lame stream press remains in the Obama fan club, and remarkably uncurious about who he is and what he's doing to the country."
I agree. It's hard to say this early, but I'd say Obama has a slightly better than 50% chance to win. I can easily see scenerios playing out where he doesn't win, but at the same time easily see scenerios playing out where he does. I think conservatives seem more interested in being comfortable with the candidate than winning the GE. But persistantly high unemployment, a weak economy, and ongoing scandals don't bode well for Obama. The supreme court may end up ruling on his healthcare bill near the presidential election, which won't bode well if it's overturned. Also if the congress fails to pass a budget or CR, there could be a government shutdown before the election.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 19, 2011 10:50:20 GMT -5
"Short answer- Obama's odds of being re-elected are somewhere around 55% to 60% in my book. The media STILL doesn't care who he really is, and in spite of three years of confirmation in the bag that he's the hard left nut many of us suspected he would be-- the lame stream press remains in the Obama fan club, and remarkably uncurious about who he is and what he's doing to the country." I agree. It's hard to say this early, but I'd say Obama has a slightly better than 50% chance to win. I can easily see scenerios playing out where he doesn't win, but at the same time easily see scenerios playing out where he does. I think conservatives seem more interested in being comfortable with the candidate than winning the GE. But persistantly high unemployment, a weak economy, and ongoing scandals don't bode well for Obama. The supreme court may end up ruling on his healthcare bill near the presidential election, which won't bode well if it's overturned. Also if the congress fails to pass a budget or CR, there could be a government shutdown before the election. a government shutdown won't necessarily work against him.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Dec 21, 2011 7:48:06 GMT -5
Unfortunately most people perceive what they see on the evening news as full coverage of the political situation, when it's not. They don't understand the psychology of continual negative coverage of one side with positive coverage of the other. I remember telling my wife before the first Republican candidate even announced running for POTUS "There's going to be all kinds of problems with the Republicans running this year on a daily basis. With Obama being shown as a wonderful family man full of positive feelings and patriotism. It was an easy call. That's what I mean by "The media darling". ... Well put and saw that right off. Astonishing that you had to explain it. I knew what you meant JMA I was just saying that the media coverage wasn't the problem, the actual misunderstanding by the mass people is what the problem is.
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Post by deziloooooo on Dec 21, 2011 9:23:03 GMT -5
... Well put and saw that right off. Astonishing that you had to explain it. I knew what you meant JMA I was just saying that the media coverage wasn't the problem, the actual misunderstanding by the mass people is what the problem is. Is the man not a good family man? I don't pay a lot of attention to his family, but it seems from the little that is reported the kids are doing just great, reminds me in a way with my own Grand Kids, similar ages..wife seems capable and a good help mate and takes on many responsibilities which really are a volunteer happening..no pay, no appointment..trying to use influence for the country's and peoples good. Possible one might not agree with all her endeavors but still.. The above is a IMHO of course..
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Post by usaone on Dec 21, 2011 10:47:34 GMT -5
Fox news had a poll on last night that had Obama beating Romney 50-48 and Newt 51-47.
As someone else said on a previous post if Republicans dont like their candidates why should anyone else.
If the economy stays the same or gets a little better its Obama's race to lose.
Marc Rubio 2016!!!!
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 21, 2011 10:55:11 GMT -5
Fox news had a poll on last night that had Obama beating Romney 50-48 and Newt 51-47. As someone else said on a previous post if Republicans dont like their candidates why should anyone else. If the economy stays the same or gets a little better its Obama's race to lose. Marc Rubio 2016!!!! i think the numbers are off on Newt. he is consistenly polling 6-8% below Romney nationally. it would be more like 53-45.
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Post by usaone on Dec 21, 2011 14:01:11 GMT -5
I agree!
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