The kid thread: Planning, pregnancy & parenting

[cktc]

Nov 27, 2018 6:18:30 GMT -5 @bamafan1954 said:

Nov 26, 2018 23:34:51 GMT -5 cktc said:

I'm guessing DD#2 gets to ride in DD#1's car? The sharing presents goes both ways, even if she doesn't see it that way. This is just part of having siblings. #1 gets to do everything first, but then everyone else gets the benefit of experiencing things when they are younger, like going places without mom and dad. Don't feel guilty, and don't play into it. If she doesn't want to plan a family trip then she can pick something else for her birthday.

If this relationship is like any of the teens I teach, riding in a sibling's car is not the thrill you make it out to be.  It's a thrill for Chloe maybe since it will help with the driving.  But DD#1 will charge her gas money when she wants to go somewhere and/or complain mightily about having to chauffeur her around.  

I think the thrill has just gone, Knee Deep in Water Chloe , from that particular birthday present.  Your husband (not sure if it is her dad or not) wasn't even going to go last year until his friends wanted to go.  So it became an adult outing instead of all about her if you think about it.  But that's difficult to complain about.  It sounds like DD#1 didn't even go in years 2 and 3.

Most of the board is looking at this from the adult perspective.  They've forgotten what it was like to be a teen.  It sounds like you haven't.

I wouldn't say I've forgotten, but it all feels pretty petty in hindsight. Feeling like life isn't fare and your sibling gets so much more is pretty characteristic of the time period. For ALL siblings. I'm just saying don't fall into feeling bad that the candy bar doesn't always break in half perfectly. From DD#2's  perspective DD#1 is getting her present and a tangible present too. From DD#1's perspective, DD#2 always gets to dictate trips and then she has to drive her around in her car.  Maybe she is coming out ahead, maybe she is just more grateful, but Chloe didn't do anything wrong. She can plan this year's present differently so it is more to DD#2's preference, but she doesn't need to feel badly about the past.  

[justme]

Nov 27, 2018 6:18:30 GMT -5 @bamafan1954 said:

Nov 26, 2018 23:34:51 GMT -5 cktc said:

I'm guessing DD#2 gets to ride in DD#1's car? The sharing presents goes both ways, even if she doesn't see it that way. This is just part of having siblings. #1 gets to do everything first, but then everyone else gets the benefit of experiencing things when they are younger, like going places without mom and dad. Don't feel guilty, and don't play into it. If she doesn't want to plan a family trip then she can pick something else for her birthday.

If this relationship is like any of the teens I teach, riding in a sibling's car is not the thrill you make it out to be.  It's a thrill for Chloe maybe since it will help with the driving.  But DD#1 will charge her gas money when she wants to go somewhere and/or complain mightily about having to chauffeur her around.  

I think the thrill has just gone, Knee Deep in Water Chloe, from that particular birthday present.  Your husband (not sure if it is her dad or not) wasn't even going to go last year until his friends wanted to go.  So it became an adult outing instead of all about her if you think about it.  But that's difficult to complain about.  It sounds like DD#1 didn't even go in years 2 and 3.

Most of the board is looking at this from the adult perspective.  They've forgotten what it was like to be a teen.  It sounds like you haven't.

It also sounds like the DD1 is going to college so I bet DD2 won't get as many rides as one thinks. Once my bro graduated high school he pretty much stopped driving me anywhere.

Not to be a downer chloe, but the dynamic is probably something you'll have to manage forever. Not to say my brother and I still bean count in our 30s, but there are times where things get way out of balance, or at least feel that way - especially once one child has grandchildren! Honestly, as the younger one (who actually had more restrictions thanks to my bro royalty screwing things up in college) just having my parents acknowledge my pov and that maybe I'm right helps a lot. I don't expect exactly fair treatment and realize my parents are human, but it's damn nice when I do point things out for them to not just brush it off as sibling rivalry. Even if it's not "corrected", as there's nothing you can do about past birthdays and of course it makes sense they spend more time with my bro because grandchildren.

[Lizard Queen]

I was 45 years old and got into it with my mom about my DB.  SHe still saw him as a little boy who needed her help, though he was 50 and making $80k/year.

[raeoflyte]

Nov 27, 2018 8:31:16 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Nov 27, 2018 0:17:00 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

I'm hoping to say no to fortnite for as long as humanly possible.  

I lost that battle long ago with him going to his Dad's every other weekend where there is a PS4 and 5 cousins ranging in age from 5 to 15. 

No judgment from me.  C was playing office jerk and stupid zombie 3 on my sisters phone when he was 3 and I had no excuse except that I wasn't paying attention.  

We don't have any older cousins, and C's friends parents are on the no fortnite plan so far too so I'm hoping we have time on this one.  

[alabamagal]

I think learning to deal with sibling rivalry is a positive long term experience. Unfortunately it is tough in the short term for the parents.

Of course DH and his sister never got past his issues with his sister and they do not speak to each other. They are in late 50s. The last “fight” was over their late fathers hunting rifle. They were not speaking, it was all through their mother. DH took the rifle because he was the eldest. Neither of them hunt. It is our closet and we have no ammo after 5 years.

[Lizard Queen]

My DM wanted to give DB money for his roof, when he had no reason not to save enough when he was (1) making so much in a LCOLA, and (2) living in a house that was completely paid for with part of an inheritance from my dad.  This, when her care at the times round-the-clock was needed, cost her at a rate of $10k/month out of her slightly over $100k remaining stash (at the time), and DB's assistance in her care was negligible and non existent for the most part.

So, yes, it pissed me off, for many reasons.  It still does when I think about it, which I try not to, but I guess I still need to come terms with a lot of this crap, from what I've been reading recently.

[raeoflyte]

We haven't heard from the other boys family who was diagnosed, but C found out yesterday when he was in the office doing a lunch check at the same time.  They'll end up seeing a lot of each other at least at lunch.  Seems like pretty much a non-event for C, and he said the other boy was handling it fine.  I'm hoping C reaches out a little bit, but I'm trying not to push him either.  

[Deleted]

Nov 27, 2018 10:54:45 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

Nov 27, 2018 8:31:16 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

I lost that battle long ago with him going to his Dad's every other weekend where there is a PS4 and 5 cousins ranging in age from 5 to 15. 

No judgment from me.  C was playing office jerk and stupid zombie 3 on my sisters phone when he was 3 and I had no excuse except that I wasn't paying attention.  

We don't have any older cousins, and C's friends parents are on the no fortnite plan so far too so I'm hoping we have time on this one.  

Carrot's Dad is the one that thought Deadpool was appropriate for an 8 year old, so I'm sure there is zero video game screening.  If I raise a fuss, I'm basically just encouraging him to allow it more just to be an asshole.  As it is, he's not a big fan of Carrot having a lot of screen time period, so he does have him outside playing catch and going for hikes and bike rides a lot.  He does a lot better job at that than I do (same with feeding him better)  I figure at least he tries to minimize it.  Restricted Fortnite is probably better than unlimited G-rated games. 

At least that's what I tell myself to make me feel better about what I can't control.

[Peace77]

Sometimes sibling rivalry never ends.
In a family I know, youngest sibling got a used car at age 16.  About 25 years later, the oldest sibling is informed that all the other siblings were previously given either a car or money for one.  A few years later, parents decide to send funds for the oldest to replace their rust bucket of a car.  Youngest sibling is mad because the car cost more than theirs.

[justme]

Nov 27, 2018 15:51:30 GMT -5 Peace77 said:

Sometimes sibling rivalry never ends.
In a family I know, youngest sibling got a used car at age 16.  About 25 years later, the oldest sibling is informed that all the other siblings were previously given either a car or money for one.  A few years later, parents decide to send funds for the oldest to replace their rust bucket of a car.  Youngest sibling is mad because the car cost more than theirs.

Reminds me when my bro got pissy when they bought me a newer car right before college. Didn't like it when it was pointed out that they car they bought me was the same age as the one they had bought him - I'm just younger than him so the math made it a newer year.

Prob shoulda been more pissed when they signed the deed of mine over to me, but wouldn't let him trade his in because he wanted a brand new car at 19.

[chapeau]

Every once in a while, we older kids harass my youngest sister and my mom about the stuff she was allowed to do that we would never have gotten away with. We are just teasing though. On Saturday youngest sis said something that was grammatically awful—nails on a chalkboard awful. My brother pointed out that she was terrible at the English language because mom let her go to a concert the night before her English final senior year of high school.
Mom has always been very, very careful to not make things visibly uneven between the 4 of us. I suspect that’s because she and her brothers grew up in the 40s and 50s, with the gender inequality from that time, but I am just guessing.
I may be making out like a bandit, I may be getting nothing. Don’t know, don’t worry about it. I think the others feel the same.

[debthaven]

Knee Deep in Water Chloe I'm sorry because I know you're very upset about this.

I would consider asking DD1 what she thinks might compensate for her feelings, and go from there. I'm not sure I would ACT on what she says, but I'd want to hear it.

Also, I think that being included in a sibling's wish is a PRIVILEGE, because it meant that DD1 got a "treat" too. So when DD1 tells you what she wants to compensate, you can always ask her, do you wish you hadn't been included in X/Y/Z?

It's late and I'm very tired so I'm not sure if this makes sense.

I'm also curious if she can answer you, because I'm struck by the fact that this SUDDENLY bothers her, all these years later.

I'm guessing that if you EXCLUDE her from DD2's next birthday "experience", she'll bitch about that too. (Maybe not though because she's far now. But I'm SURE it would have bugged her to have been excluded when she was living at home.)

[oped]

My dad keeps things even between sis and I... but I sometimes get the impression that she’s upset that he considers my kids as extra and not part of my half... Ie. He’s helping with their college and I think she’d like a check in a like amount. But I’ve given up caring. If she had kids, they would be treated the same. She doesn’t want kids, her choice.

[Deleted]

I honestly have no idea who gets what when it comes to my siblings.  A couple years ago my Dad gave me a check for 2K because my sister was having some financial problems and my brother had just bought a house and needed some stuff.  I felt weird taking it.  It didn't make sense to me that I should get money too.  I mean, I see it now because I hear about the jealousy issues, but it made me uncomfortable being given money just to "make things even". 

Now, my mom.  I have NO CLUE what she has ever gifted any of my other three brothers because she doesn't announce these things and I don't ask.  I honestly don't care either, it doesn't feel like any of my business.  She's given me money before and told me to keep my mouth shut or there wouldn't be more, so I keep my mouth shut. 

Oddly enough, I have more of a sibling jealousy relationship with my cousin.  I think of my Aunt more as a mom and my cousin and I grew up together.  Every Friday night and every summer I was shipped off to their farm from the time I was about 5 years old until I was a teenager. 

[flamingo]

My sis (younger than me) gets far more than I do in terms of financial help from my parents. When it comes to gifts (bday, christmas) my mom is extra careful to give us the same amount - now at least. My sis also thinks that life is totally unfair to her and she deserves more than me and that I've gotten the better end of the deal. So the sibling rivalry comes from her, not me. She's jealous that they paid for my car while I was in college and aren't paying for hers. Different circumstances, I went to college at 18, she waited until she was 30. She's jealous that my mom and I travel together. Mom doesn't pay for me, and even if sis wanted/could come, she wouldn't be able to pay for her. Sis just doesn't see it that way. Whatever, it's not something I worry about. If mom wanted to pay for sis to travel with her, have at it. I don't have the energy at almost 40 to worry about this stuff.

[Lizard Queen]

I was pissed because I desperately needed my brother's help with my mom, and he could never be bothered. And then there was the 5 year look back period for Medicaid that was staring into my face, should my mother run out of money (it was getting close at the end). But he couldn't manage to save $7k to pay for a roof himself because he was spending all his money on his kids and staying in hotels every weekend for hockey because he didn't want to drive as much. And going to watch football and hockey games. And going fishing. Meanwhile, I'm pulling my hair out trying to take care of our mother.

[MJ2.0]

Nov 26, 2018 22:00:23 GMT -5 taz157 said:

At my IL's annual pre-Thanksgiving dinner, I was talking with one of my nieces (her oldest is 2 years younger than DD) and she were talking about the attitude/talking back that her oldest DD was doing since starting school. I was thinking that thank goodness my DD doesn't do that. I can't say that anymore. I was getting some of the attitude tonight. I HATE that. She was already in trouble for losing a point at school for talking when she wasn't supposed to. She also lost the point right as school ended. This also isn't the first time she was talking when she wasn't supposed to (once she did it twice in 1 day).

I wish DS only talked out of turn 0-1 times a day!

[swasat]

Nov 27, 2018 17:04:58 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

I was pissed because I desperately needed my brother's help with my mom, and he could never be bothered. And then there was the 5 year look back period for Medicaid that was staring into my face, should my mother run out of money (it was getting close at the end). But he couldn't manage to save $7k to pay for a roof himself because he was spending all his money on his kids and staying in hotels every weekend for hockey because he didn't want to drive as much. And going to watch football and hockey games. And going fishing. Meanwhile, I'm pulling my hair out trying to take care of our mother.

FWIW, I completely get what you are saying.

Its not the money, its the principle of it. Its about feelings, concern and the visibility into whats right and whats wrong. If someone is contributing to the care, actually making an effort and in general not being an asshole, you wouldn't begrudge the financial help your mom wanted to give him. But he was absent, selfish and completely unconcerned. And she STILL worried more for him and less for you, even though you made so much more of a sacrifice.

I have seen this version play so many times, I completely understand where you are coming from. 

I find it amazing that the leechy, needy and woe-is-me/I-am-victim mentality people are always the ones that get more support, care and concern from the parents. And the more responsible ones tend to get penalized for....well, for being responsible and non-needy   Unfairness of it all blows my mind.

[Wisconsin Beth]

If my parents are/have paid stuff to my siblings, I haven't heard about it. Mom did pay $500 for my kids summer care this yesr. I still feel kind of weird about it.

[Deleted]

My daughter has most definitely sucked up more of my resources than my son. But the things I've done for her weren't so much for her, as they were for her children. My son doesn't have children. I do still recognize that it is unfair, and it does bother me some even though my son hasn't said anything about it. I do things for him, but not nearly as much as I've done for my daughter, for the sake of her children.

At this point, I'm not sure how to make it right. I've considered leaving more to him with my life insurance policy, but I don't want to have to die to make things more "even". I also worry that if I do that, it would cause tension between the 2 of them, especially since my daughter has always said that he's my favorite. I honestly don't have a favorite. She has always demanded more of my attention, even as a child, so it would be more understandable if it was my son saying my daughter was my favorite.

I guess it's easy for me to see the unfairness because I have experienced the same dynamic with my Mom and my brother to what has become an extreme degree. My mother has given what she didn't have to my brother, and then asks me for what she needs. The shit finally hit the fan and now I'm living with the aftermath, because now she's dependent on me in some ways that could have been avoided. Some things, like her house, I flat out refuse to deal with because they are direct results of what she has allowed from my brother. If I dealt with those things on top of everything else, my head just might explode from anger.

It's odd how the needy sibling that actually gets the most attention and resources also tends to be the jealous one and feels some type of way about the parent and the more responsible sibling.

That doesn't refer to Chloe's daughters, I think that is more just teenage stuff. Not that her daughter's feelings aren't valid, I just don't want to imply that the issue is as bad as what's going on with my family.

[raeoflyte]

I think our parents have enabled sis and I equally.  Sis lived rent free in properties my parents own (and a triplex I own with them) for at least 15 years.  They sold me their house at a considerable discount so we could get back into the neighborhood.  I'm definitely coming out ahead although sis may have gotten more actual money?  I'm not really sure, but I feel very lucky. 

C definitely struggles with jealousy and for lack of a better word victim mindset and I wonder how that will play out as an adult.   I so hope the 2 of them will be friends as adults.  

[swasat]

Nov 27, 2018 19:50:29 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

My daughter has most definitely sucked up more of my resources than my son. But the things I've done for her weren't so much for her, as they were for her children. My son doesn't have children. I do still recognize that it is unfair, and it does bother me some even though my son hasn't said anything about it. I do things for him, but not nearly as much as I've done for my daughter, for the sake of her children.

At this point, I'm not sure how to make it right. I've considered leaving more to him with my life insurance policy, but I don't want to have to die to make things more "even". I also worry that if I do that, it would cause tension between the 2 of them, especially since my daughter has always said that he's my favorite. I honestly don't have a favorite. She has always demanded more of my attention, even as a child, so it would be more understandable if it was my son saying my daughter was my favorite.

I guess it's easy for me to see the unfairness because I have experienced the same dynamic with my Mom and my brother to what has become an extreme degree. My mother has given what she didn't have to my brother, and then asks me for what she needs. The shit finally hit the fan and now I'm living with the aftermath, because now she's dependent on me in some ways that could have been avoided. Some things, like her house, I flat out refuse to deal with because they are direct results of what she has allowed from my brother. If I dealt with those things on top of everything else, my head just might explode from anger.

It's odd how the needy sibling that actually gets the most attention and resources also tends to be the jealous one and feels some type of way about the parent and the more responsible sibling.

That doesn't refer to Chloe's daughters, I think that is more just teenage stuff. Not that her daughter's feelings aren't valid, I just don't want to imply that the issue is as bad as what's going on with my family.

But what’s stopping you from doing more for him? It doesn’t have to be exactly what you did for your DD, it can be a different thing. What’s stopping you? Can you not give him gifts, help with IRA, pay for household stuff? Why would you not even try to make it equal?

Also, I hope you have at least acknowledged to him that you realize things have been unequal, that you realize and understand that more resources, effort and money was spent on his sister. That, while you cannot change that, you do realize things were not equal and sometimes not fair. But you acknowledge and are great full for him being not the needy one.

Saying that would go a longer way than actually spending the money. The responsible children don’t demand much, but they do NEED recognition and acknowledgement for being good and responsible.

And if possible, do try to make it equal. Just because he does not complain does not mean he is not noticing.

[Knee Deep in Water Chloe]

Nov 26, 2018 23:34:51 GMT -5 cktc said:

I'm guessing DD#2 gets to ride in DD#1's car? The sharing presents goes both ways, even if she doesn't see it that way. This is just part of having siblings. #1 gets to do everything first, but then everyone else gets the benefit of experiencing things when they are younger, like going places without mom and dad. Don't feel guilty, and don't play into it. If she doesn't want to plan a family trip then she can pick something else for her birthday.

Not quite, #1 is at college. And thank you. 

Nov 27, 2018 0:15:32 GMT -5 Works4me said:

It also sounds like DD2 is failing to realize that her turn will come. Also, I wonder if her expectations
for gifts over experiences might be over blown.

Have you tried asking her what her expectations are and what is really bothering her?

I need to do that when I'm not quite as perturbed. 

[Knee Deep in Water Chloe]

Nov 27, 2018 16:34:30 GMT -5 debthaven said:

Knee Deep in Water Chloe I'm sorry because I know you're very upset about this.

I would consider asking DD1 what she thinks might compensate for her feelings, and go from there. I'm not sure I would ACT on what she says, but I'd want to hear it.

Also, I think that being included in a sibling's wish is a PRIVILEGE, because it meant that DD1 got a "treat" too. So when DD1 tells you what she wants to compensate, you can always ask her, do you wish you hadn't been included in X/Y/Z?

It's late and I'm very tired so I'm not sure if this makes sense.

I'm also curious if she can answer you, because I'm struck by the fact that this SUDDENLY bothers her, all these years later.

I'm guessing that if you EXCLUDE her from DD2's next birthday "experience", she'll bitch about that too. (Maybe not though because she's far now. But I'm SURE it would have bugged her to have been excluded when she was living at home.)

Yes, I definitely need to ask her more about it. And pointing out the other experiences she's had is a good point too.  

[tcu2003]

Nov 27, 2018 20:12:14 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

C definitely struggles with jealousy and for lack of a better word victim mindset and I wonder how that will play out as an adult.   I so hope the 2 of them will be friends as adults.  

This sums up some of my struggles with C. If something goes wrong or he has a problem, it’s *always* someone or something else’s fault, never his. I don’t know if some of this is because he’s 6 or that’s his personality or something we’ve somehow enabled. I do know that it drives me bonkers.

[Deleted]

Nov 27, 2018 21:23:32 GMT -5 tcu2003 said:

Nov 27, 2018 20:12:14 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

C definitely struggles with jealousy and for lack of a better word victim mindset and I wonder how that will play out as an adult.   I so hope the 2 of them will be friends as adults.  

This sums up some of my struggles with C. If something goes wrong or he has a problem, it’s *always* someone or something else’s fault, never his. I don’t know if some of this is because he’s 6 or that’s his personality or something we’ve somehow enabled. I do know that it drives me bonkers.

I'm going with it's normal for that age with a lot of kids just because both mine were/are the same. 

My 16 year old FINALLY started getting over this about a year or so ago.  He was awful and it drove me nuts, but now he seems to have figured out that he alone controls a lot of the things he used to blame everyone else for.  At the very least he has control how he reacts to what other people do or say. 

My 8 year old is pretty bad too, but not quite as bad as his brother was at that age.  Last Friday he fell over his brother and cut his head.  We were leaving my Dad's and there were four of us standing right there that saw it all happen.  Older son was kneeling down petting the dog goodbye and Carrot backed up and tripped over his foot.  For the next 30 minutes he went on and on about his brother tripping him and how mean his brother was.  I finally pulled over the van and said if he blamed his brother one more time he would not get any screen time at all the next day.  And I was rather pissed at this point, so I was rather loud about it.  It's been four days and there was never another peep, so I guess I got my point across.   

[Deleted]

Nov 27, 2018 20:28:02 GMT -5 swasat said:

Nov 27, 2018 19:50:29 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

My daughter has most definitely sucked up more of my resources than my son. But the things I've done for her weren't so much for her, as they were for her children. My son doesn't have children. I do still recognize that it is unfair, and it does bother me some even though my son hasn't said anything about it. I do things for him, but not nearly as much as I've done for my daughter, for the sake of her children.

At this point, I'm not sure how to make it right. I've considered leaving more to him with my life insurance policy, but I don't want to have to die to make things more "even". I also worry that if I do that, it would cause tension between the 2 of them, especially since my daughter has always said that he's my favorite. I honestly don't have a favorite. She has always demanded more of my attention, even as a child, so it would be more understandable if it was my son saying my daughter was my favorite.

I guess it's easy for me to see the unfairness because I have experienced the same dynamic with my Mom and my brother to what has become an extreme degree. My mother has given what she didn't have to my brother, and then asks me for what she needs. The shit finally hit the fan and now I'm living with the aftermath, because now she's dependent on me in some ways that could have been avoided. Some things, like her house, I flat out refuse to deal with because they are direct results of what she has allowed from my brother. If I dealt with those things on top of everything else, my head just might explode from anger.

It's odd how the needy sibling that actually gets the most attention and resources also tends to be the jealous one and feels some type of way about the parent and the more responsible sibling.

That doesn't refer to Chloe's daughters, I think that is more just teenage stuff. Not that her daughter's feelings aren't valid, I just don't want to imply that the issue is as bad as what's going on with my family.

But what’s stopping you from doing more for him? It doesn’t have to be exactly what you did for your DD, it can be a different thing. What’s stopping you? Can you not give him gifts, help with IRA, pay for household stuff? Why would you not even try to make it equal?

Also, I hope you have at least acknowledged to him that you realize things have been unequal, that you realize and understand that more resources, effort and money was spent on his sister. That, while you cannot change that, you do realize things were not equal and sometimes not fair. But you acknowledge and are great full for him being not the needy one.

Saying that would go a longer way than actually spending the money. The responsible children don’t demand much, but they do NEED recognition and acknowledgement for being good and responsible.

And if possible, do try to make it equal. Just because he does not complain does not mean he is not noticing.

I do things for him. It just has not been as much. I do have limited resources, I'm nowhere near wealthy. And right now, I am focusing more on things I need to do for me, so that limits even more what I have available for anybody else, daughter included. I've always come through for him the rare times he's needed me to, and I've sent him things just because. I just know that it's still not equal to what my daughter has needed.

I was planning to pay for him do fly home next month, but there was a change at his job and he can't take the time off now. We're trying now to figure out when he can come.

You kind of make it sound like I just abandoned my son, and I haven't.

We've talked about it, it's been a while ago though, and I initiated the conversation. It didn't seem to be a big deal to him, but he may have just not wanted to hurt my feelings.

I just told him again a few months ago that I'm very proud of him and all the reasons why.

[chapeau]

Today is one of those days when I am definitely getting a perk from mom and dad that my siblings don’t get. DD’s school has a 2-hour delay, but the district where my office is does not*. So my mom will walk DD the 2 blocks from her house to DD’s bus stop so she can get to school and keep her for the hour between when I had to leave for work and DD leaves for school.

*No, I don’t work for/in a school, but our office is in the middle of a very steep hill in an industrial park. The roads there get treated last, so all winter our outgoing voicemail message and our website tell people that if the school district where our office is has a delay or is cancelled, the office opens an hour later than the posted schedule. We have only gotten 2 complaints in 4 years, and one of the complainers apologized when she came to the office and experienced how bad the roads were.

[TheHaitian]

What is up with the tantrums and the meltdown at this stage : ~22 months

It is like my daughter is a ball of emotions and any of them is ready to explode at any time.

She cries at the drop of a hat and for anything, something is not right she cries, you do exactly what she wants: she cries.

Like what 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[Sam_2.0]

Nov 28, 2018 15:55:25 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

What is up with the tantrums and the meltdown at this stage : ~22 months

It is like my daughter is a ball of emotions and any of them is ready to explode at any time.

She cries at the drop of a hat and for anything, something is not right she cries, you do exactly what she wants: she cries.

Like what 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

Let me lie and tell you it gets better.

My 7yr old threw a tantrum that lasted well over an hour this morning. Because she didn't want to wear pants. And its 11* outside.

Life is hard when you are little and have BIG feelings.