AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP
Distinguished Associate
Joined: Dec 21, 2010 11:59:07 GMT -5
Posts: 31,709
Favorite Drink: Sweetwater 420
|
Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 19, 2011 11:53:55 GMT -5
...borders. Is he insane? Or just another left wing anti-semite?
|
|
|
Post by marshabar1 on May 19, 2011 11:56:13 GMT -5
...borders. Is he insane? Or just another left wing anti-semite? Does it have to be just one?
|
|
|
Post by ladylove on May 19, 2011 12:00:38 GMT -5
Obama is a clueless idiot!!! How can we put this guy in office??? Does he really think he can buy off the muslim brotherhood in egypt or count on Pakistan to help us in our war on terror??? Come on!!! I thought this guy graduated Harvard!!! He just diminished the prestige of that diploma!!
|
|
Deleted
Joined: May 2, 2024 18:30:56 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 12:06:48 GMT -5
Yes, he believes it. He has faith in the MB, Taliban, believes no one will mess with Israel any more if this is done the way he wants it..
|
|
burnsattornincan
Well-Known Member
Joined: Dec 25, 2010 23:05:21 GMT -5
Posts: 1,398
|
Post by burnsattornincan on May 19, 2011 12:08:34 GMT -5
I thought this guy graduated Harvard!!!
ladylove dearest, he was an Affirmative Action student... need anything more be said?
|
|
Deleted
Joined: May 2, 2024 18:30:56 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 12:10:40 GMT -5
Affirmative Action Foreign student..........
|
|
|
Post by ty on May 19, 2011 12:13:04 GMT -5
...borders. Is he insane? Or just another left wing anti-semite? Fighting wars will now have its downfall I think.
|
|
|
Post by marshabar1 on May 19, 2011 12:17:53 GMT -5
That's one powerful launcher, kreepy!
|
|
|
Post by marshabar1 on May 19, 2011 12:19:51 GMT -5
Harvard LAW SCHOOL, but no law license. What's up with that, Burns?
|
|
|
Post by ty on May 19, 2011 12:26:49 GMT -5
I thought this guy graduated Harvard!!! ladylove dearest, he was an Affirmative Action student... need anything more be said? All the people during the time Odumbo claimed to have been at Harvard said they never saw him in the classes he claimed to have taken.
|
|
koeth
New Member
Joined: Apr 25, 2011 9:35:26 GMT -5
Posts: 11
|
Post by koeth on May 19, 2011 12:34:33 GMT -5
This should end well "natural disaster" incomming
|
|
shelby
Well-Known Member
Joined: Jan 17, 2011 21:29:02 GMT -5
Posts: 1,368
|
Post by shelby on May 19, 2011 12:36:39 GMT -5
Wow all the most rational unbiased people posting in one thread must be true . My head hurts...
|
|
|
Post by marshabar1 on May 19, 2011 12:37:17 GMT -5
|
|
Deleted
Joined: May 2, 2024 18:30:56 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 12:38:02 GMT -5
Welcome to the board, Keoth! for being new. ;D
|
|
Deleted
Joined: May 2, 2024 18:30:56 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 12:41:01 GMT -5
IF they would listen to Obama, Marsha. Whether or not the people want it-- will the Islamic extremists AGREE to it?? How CAN they? Their religion demands they fight the Jews, Christians, all the infidels, and their revolutions are taking them BACK, not forward.
|
|
koeth
New Member
Joined: Apr 25, 2011 9:35:26 GMT -5
Posts: 11
|
Post by koeth on May 19, 2011 12:50:21 GMT -5
Welcome to the board, Keoth! for being new. ;D many thanks ^^
|
|
deziloooooo
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 16:22:04 GMT -5
Posts: 10,723
|
Post by deziloooooo on May 19, 2011 12:53:19 GMT -5
Wow all the most rational unbiased people posting in one thread must be true . My head hurts... Thank you Shelby, your so much kinder then I , the 1967 borders, to be adjusted in land swaps where Israeli settlements, especially East Jerusalem, apartments built and occupied, both parties now will stay with in Israeli borders, is the basis of what they are discussing. 1967 borders have always been the basis of discussion of the final State for the Palastinians, by all the PM's , both now and past. Now there are those who are usually very far right , feel the West Bank, Judea and Samaria, also belong to Israel and in their mind, since the land was given to them by the lord, it is theirs, Israel, and the Palestinians? Well just move them elsewhere to other Arab lands...that is a serious thought by them, in fact one of the more influential elected , defense minister or another important minister of a different important agency feel that way, but the majority of Israelis, might like that idea, they know it is impractical , so the point made is moot, not going to happen. What all these are screaming here, just yadda, yadda, with no thoughts of reality..whether it is just more Obama bashing, or ignorance of the issues, I haven't a clue, but really not important, none of their thought mean a f in the wind..just yadda, yadda..Obama bashing or haven't a clue as to the issues.
|
|
|
Post by ladylove on May 19, 2011 13:02:03 GMT -5
Wow all the most rational unbiased people posting in one thread must be true . My head hurts... Okay... you want rational? Where is the evidence that supports the view that if Israel agrees to Obamas plan the violence will end? There's plenty of evidence to the contrary.
|
|
henryclay
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 5, 2011 19:03:37 GMT -5
Posts: 3,685
|
Post by henryclay on May 19, 2011 13:02:10 GMT -5
No Clue? Then please bring us up to date desi. You seem to take issue with the lack of knowledge being displayed. Isn't it encumbent then that you fill the vacccum with vitally needed information?
|
|
|
Post by ed1066 on May 19, 2011 13:06:06 GMT -5
No Clue? Then please bring us up to date desi. You seem to take issue with the lack of knowledge being displayed. Isn't it encumbent then that you fill the vacccum with vitally needed information? Indeed, thrill us with your acumen, Dez...
|
|
|
Post by magichat on May 19, 2011 13:06:16 GMT -5
Wow all the most rational unbiased people posting in one thread must be true . My head hurts... Okay... you want rational? Where is the evidence that supports the view that if Israel agrees to Obamas plan the violence will end? There's plenty of evidence to the contrary. Based on your recommednations I agree we should drop fifteen or twenty nuclear weaqpons on palestine, will that have any negative consequences?
|
|
deziloooooo
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 16:22:04 GMT -5
Posts: 10,723
|
Post by deziloooooo on May 19, 2011 13:09:37 GMT -5
Wow all the most rational unbiased people posting in one thread must be true . My head hurts... Okay... you want rational? Where is the evidence that supports the view that if Israel agrees to Obamas plan the violence will end? There's plenty of evidence to the contrary. When one signs a peace agreement, or a settlement such as this, then there has to be trust , as well as guarantees,and Israel is the strongest force in this area, and the US will see they will stay that way, as they have always done since they have become the friend to israel , {wasn't always the way}. Israel will have certain security , as Tony Blaire just said, the Palastinians need to have a viable State, similer to the 1967 borders, and Israel needs the security. There will be , understood, some movement on borders but yes, basically about what the 1967 borders call for, to be negotiated. It will be up to the palastinians , as it is with all countries to control the peopl with in their borders, their populace and if there are some who do not accept the situation, try to continue the struggle, then it is up to the State to make sure they do not act that way, and if they can't, then nothing says, as the president said, Israel has the right to protect itself any way it can. The status quo cannot continue.
|
|
|
Post by ladylove on May 19, 2011 13:11:07 GMT -5
Okay... you want rational? Where is the evidence that supports the view that if Israel agrees to Obamas plan the violence will end? There's plenty of evidence to the contrary. Based on your recommednations I agree we should drop fifteen or twenty nuclear weaqpons on palestine, will that have any negative consequences? Palestine?? No I would drop them on Iran, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Libya. The other countries would get the message.
|
|
mmhmm
Administrator
It's a great pity the right of free speech isn't based on the obligation to say something sensible.
Joined: Dec 25, 2010 18:13:34 GMT -5
Posts: 31,770
Today's Mood: Saddened by Events
Location: Memory Lane
Favorite Drink: Water
|
Post by mmhmm on May 19, 2011 13:12:22 GMT -5
Anybody aware of by whom this suggestion was originally made? Hint: It's not an Obama plan.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: May 2, 2024 18:30:56 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 13:14:22 GMT -5
LOL, Lady!!! I'd go with just regular bombs, though, rather than nukes. Don't want to kill the Israelis!!!
|
|
|
Post by magichat on May 19, 2011 13:15:24 GMT -5
Based on your recommednations I agree we should drop fifteen or twenty nuclear weaqpons on palestine, will that have any negative consequences? Palestine?? No I would drop them on Iran, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Libya. The other countries would get the message. You've got it all wrong the Palestians are the problem, take the damn blindfold off. What the hell is your problem why can't you see that your solution is perfect?
|
|
AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP
Distinguished Associate
Joined: Dec 21, 2010 11:59:07 GMT -5
Posts: 31,709
Favorite Drink: Sweetwater 420
|
Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 19, 2011 13:15:36 GMT -5
There's absolutely no reason to trust the Palestinian government, or any of the other Arab governments. Period.
|
|
|
Post by marshabar1 on May 19, 2011 13:15:51 GMT -5
IF they would listen to Obama, Marsha. Whether or not the people want it-- will the Islamic extremists AGREE to it?? How CAN they? Their religion demands they fight the Jews, Christians, all the infidels, and their revolutions are taking them BACK, not forward. President Obama fails to differentiate hopes from facts concerning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and therefore he believes — in direct contradiction of the evidence — that a permanently peaceful two-state solution between Israel and Palestine is imminently possible if only the Jewish state would deconstruct its people’s settlements in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights and agree to shared ownership of Jerusalem. The above conditions, one should note, are conditions Obama adopted on his own; they are not conditions that Israel is offering and they are not conditions that will pacify Palestine for any length of time, based on the statements and behavior of the Palestinian Authority and its Legislative Council. Obama asserts, in effect, that peace is up to Israel. It’s an invertebrate, Carteresque play: stay away from the scary guy and get tough with the friendly guy. In asking Netanyahu to sit down with the Palestinian leadership, Obama is asking Israel to collaborate with those who openly seek to annihilate it. The truth is that the two sides can’t live side by side in peace because that is not what the Palestinians really want. American advocates of the two-state solution point to polling data that they wrongly read as indicating that a majority of Palestinians favor a two-state solution. In fact, 80% of Palestinians will only accept a two-state solution on the condition that Palestinians are allowed to return to land lost when modern Israel was established, which will render the Jewish people a homeless minority. One might have thought that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, leader of the Fatah party in Palestine, was hostile enough toward Israel for vengeance-minded Palestinians. Abbas’s Fatah party composes the majority of the Palestinian Liberation Organization, an on-again, off-again member of the United States’s terrorist organization list and which includes among its constitutional goals the “eradication of Zionist economic, political, military and cultural existence.” Apparently not hostile enough for Palestine. In 2006, Palestinian voters gave Hamas a majority of seats in the Legislative Council plus all of the administrative cabinet positions. Hamas is classified as a terrorist organization by the United States, the European Union, Canada and Japan. Its founding charter commits the group to replacing Israel with an Islamist state and to raising “the banner of Allah over every inch of [historic] Palestine.” dailycaller.com/2011/05/18/palestinians-dont-want-a-two-state-solution/#ixzz1Mp7PL1uX
|
|
|
Post by magichat on May 19, 2011 13:16:23 GMT -5
There's absolutely no reason to trust the Palestinian government, or any of the other Arab governments. Period. See Lady at least Paul gets it. Push the red button yesterday.
|
|
deziloooooo
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 16:22:04 GMT -5
Posts: 10,723
|
Post by deziloooooo on May 19, 2011 13:16:49 GMT -5
Based on your recommednations I agree we should drop fifteen or twenty nuclear weaqpons on palestine, will that have any negative consequences? Palestine?? No I would drop them on Iran, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Libya. The other countries would get the message. I see we still have those who have seriously considered this problem thus the intelligent suggestions coming from them.
|
|