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Post by Apple on Jan 2, 2011 20:07:35 GMT -5
I think it's a natural thing for a man to want to cheat. It's also a natural thing for me to want to punch anyone who pisses me off in the face. Doesn't make it okay to do it. You mean it's not ok? Uh, J or Swamp? Hurry and get your OR law license... I cleaned the blood off the curtain rod, but I might need to give you a call if they find me
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Jan 2, 2011 20:07:54 GMT -5
I think it's a natural thing for a man to want to cheat. It's also a natural thing for me to want to punch anyone who pisses me off in the face. Doesn't make it okay to do it. I'd rather do that than cheat. ;P
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Jan 2, 2011 20:08:33 GMT -5
Not natural - or there would be even more of it going on. What's natural is looking and admiring (by both genders) without actually sampling the merchandise.
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Post by The J on Jan 2, 2011 20:08:50 GMT -5
I'll pro hoc vice for you anytime
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Post by The J on Jan 2, 2011 20:10:00 GMT -5
It's also a natural thing for me to want to punch anyone who pisses me off in the face. Doesn't make it okay to do it. I'd rather do that than cheat. ;P Definitely. But just because it's part of human nature doesn't make it ok.
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Post by Apple on Jan 2, 2011 20:10:43 GMT -5
Oh, and as an aside, I do know of one technical-adultary situation where I can't say I blame the girl at all. Her husband refuses to sign divorce papers. They've lived apart for over a decade, she's had more than one bf, but he still won't sign. They've been apart longer then they were together. For him it's a power-trip/control play, so if I were her I'd probably "cheat" too, it's not like she hides it.
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Post by The J on Jan 2, 2011 20:12:18 GMT -5
Oh, and as an aside, I do know of one technical-adultary situation where I can't say I blame the girl at all. Her husband refuses to sign divorce papers. They've lived apart for over a decade, she's had more than one bf, but he still won't sign. They've been apart longer then they were together. For him it's a power-trip/control play, so if I were her I'd probably "cheat" to, it's not like she hides it. That's foolish -- she should sue for divorce.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2011 20:14:04 GMT -5
Oh, and as an aside, I do know of one technical-adultary situation where I can't say I blame the girl at all. Her husband refuses to sign divorce papers. They've lived apart for over a decade, she's had more than one bf, but he still won't sign. They've been apart longer then they were together. For him it's a power-trip/control play, so if I were her I'd probably "cheat" too, it's not like she hides it. Oh man, that is a whole other can of worms. If the couple is separated and they both know they are separated they are as good as divorced when it comes to seeing other people. There is no infidelity there!
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Post by la808 on Jan 2, 2011 20:36:43 GMT -5
I think it's a natural thing for a man to want to cheat. It's also a natural thing for me to want to punch anyone who pisses me off in the face. Doesn't make it okay to do it. Okay, maybe natural isn't the right word, but my thinking is if men were meant to stay with one sexual partner for life, why are so many having a hard time doing it?
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Post by la808 on Jan 2, 2011 20:37:48 GMT -5
I think it's a natural thing for a man to want to cheat. I think it's natural for a woman to want to cheat too, but it still doesnt' make it right. Swamp. Why? Who sets these right and wrong rules?
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Post by The J on Jan 2, 2011 20:39:17 GMT -5
It's also a natural thing for me to want to punch anyone who pisses me off in the face. Doesn't make it okay to do it. Okay, maybe natural isn't the right word, but my thinking is if men were meant to stay with one sexual partner for life, why are so many having a hard time doing it? Same reason why people don't save for retirement and get into massive amounts of debt -- poor self-control and a victim mentality, including the "I can't help it, it's only natural for me to want to sleep with another woman".
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Post by la808 on Jan 2, 2011 20:39:37 GMT -5
I'd rather do that than cheat. ;P Definitely. But just because it's part of human nature doesn't make it ok. Again, who says it doesn't make it okay? I'm not trying to argue, but really don't understand where all these moral rules have come from.
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Post by The J on Jan 2, 2011 20:41:19 GMT -5
Definitely. But just because it's part of human nature doesn't make it ok. Again, who says it doesn't make it okay? I'm not trying to argue, but really don't understand where all these moral rules have come from. It's cheating if you have made an agreement to be faithful to one person. That's why it's not cheating if you have an agreed upon open relationship. If you're in an exclusive relationship, and you go outside that relationship, you've broken your promise, and that's what's wrong.
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Post by la808 on Jan 2, 2011 20:44:35 GMT -5
Okay, maybe natural isn't the right word, but my thinking is if men were meant to stay with one sexual partner for life, why are so many having a hard time doing it? Same reason why people don't save for retirement and get into massive amounts of debt -- poor self-control and a victim mentality, including the "I can't help it, it's only natural for me to want to sleep with another woman". What is wrong or unnatural to scratch where you itch. I really don't get it. Yes, if you're out there making babies or bringing home diseases, I can see where it would be wrong....I guess what I object to is living under moral rules that I see as obscure and religiously based.
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Post by la808 on Jan 2, 2011 20:45:18 GMT -5
Again, who says it doesn't make it okay? I'm not trying to argue, but really don't understand where all these moral rules have come from. It's cheating if you have made an agreement to be faithful to one person. That's why it's not cheating if you have an agreed upon open relationship. If you're in an exclusive relationship, and you go outside that relationship, you've broken your promise, and that's what's wrong. I agree.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 2, 2011 20:50:28 GMT -5
Not natural - or there would be even more of it going on. What's natural is looking and admiring (by both genders) without actually sampling the merchandise. Define "sampling"....
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Post by suzwantstobefree on Jan 2, 2011 20:51:18 GMT -5
Are we perfect? Obviously not. Should we know the difference between right and wrong and act accordingly? I think we should.
The rules are established by marriage vows (til death do us part), from the Bible if you are Christian, and from keeping your promises (ie: if you are in an exclusive relationship and you have made a promise to that person to be faithful, then you should not break your promise).
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 2, 2011 20:51:41 GMT -5
"I can't help it, it's only natural for me to want to sleep with another woman" So these desires I"m having are normal?
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Post by The J on Jan 2, 2011 20:53:08 GMT -5
"I can't help it, it's only natural for me to want to sleep with another woman" So these desires I"m having are normal? Yes. Including your desire to record the whole thing and share with your friends
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 2, 2011 20:53:29 GMT -5
Same reason why people don't save for retirement and get into massive amounts of debt -- poor self-control and a victim mentality, including the "I can't help it, it's only natural for me to want to sleep with another woman". What is wrong or unnatural to scratch where you itch. I really don't get it. Yes, if you're out there making babies or bringing home diseases, I can see where it would be wrong....I guess what I object to is living under moral rules that I see as obscure and religiously based. So you would be ok with your husband having sex with someone else? That is not an arbitrary rule to me. We took marriage vows and I took them seriously.
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Post by suzwantstobefree on Jan 2, 2011 20:53:30 GMT -5
This discussion has gotten quite lively.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 2, 2011 20:54:14 GMT -5
"I can't help it, it's only natural for me to want to sleep with another woman" So these desires I"m having are normal? Yes. Including your desire to record the whole thing and share with your friends <Tina thinks she found a way to fund her retirement>
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Jan 2, 2011 20:57:35 GMT -5
What is wrong or unnatural to scratch where you itch. I really don't get it. Yes, if you're out there making babies or bringing home diseases, I can see where it would be wrong....I guess what I object to is living under moral rules that I see as obscure and religiously based.
I've never scratched myself with a penis. I'm just sayin'.
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Post by suzwantstobefree on Jan 2, 2011 20:59:22 GMT -5
I've never scratched myself with a penis. I'm just sayin'. hehe - that was a good one
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Post by la808 on Jan 2, 2011 21:07:37 GMT -5
What is wrong or unnatural to scratch where you itch. I really don't get it. Yes, if you're out there making babies or bringing home diseases, I can see where it would be wrong....I guess what I object to is living under moral rules that I see as obscure and religiously based. So you would be ok with your husband having sex with someone else? That is not an arbitrary rule to me. We took marriage vows and I took them seriously. He's never expressed any interest in wanting sex outside the marriage, but if he were to, I would honor my wedding vows to do what it takes to make him happy. All I am saying is I can totally understand why some men would need more than one partner.
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Post by Apple on Jan 2, 2011 21:09:17 GMT -5
What is wrong or unnatural to scratch where you itch. I really don't get it. Yes, if you're out there making babies or bringing home diseases, I can see where it would be wrong....I guess what I object to is living under moral rules that I see as obscure and religiously based.I've never scratched myself with a penis. I'm just sayin'. ROFLSHIPAL!
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 2, 2011 21:09:23 GMT -5
So you would be ok with your husband having sex with someone else? That is not an arbitrary rule to me. We took marriage vows and I took them seriously. He's never expressed any interest in wanting sex outside the marriage, but if he were to, I would honor my wedding vows to do what it takes to make him happy. All I am saying is I can totally understand why some men would need more than one partner. So you would honor your wedding vows but not expect him to honor his wedding vows?
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Post by The J on Jan 2, 2011 21:09:27 GMT -5
So you would be ok with your husband having sex with someone else? That is not an arbitrary rule to me. We took marriage vows and I took them seriously. He's never expressed any interest in wanting sex outside the marriage, but if he were to, I would honor my wedding vows to do what it takes to make him happy. All I am saying is I can totally understand why some men would need more than one partner. So you'd hook your husband up with another woman if it would make him happy?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2011 21:09:54 GMT -5
Can you understand why some women would need more than one partner?
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 2, 2011 21:10:24 GMT -5
Can you understand why some women would need more than one partner? No.
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