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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 14, 2024 14:45:00 GMT -5
It's America first.....unless you are trying to brownnose up to a dictator. What he did was reprehensible, because that was a LARGE supply of testing machines (I have a really good idea of how many that much money entailed) that could have been used in the US. I don't get why people do not look at crap like this and see that his words belie his actions. it HAS to be illegal. is that even being discussed? or do we all just assume that everything he does is illegal? Is it illegal? |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 14, 2024 14:46:46 GMT -5
we had only conducted 4000 tests by the end of March.this was the greatest failing Trump had- and he had MANY. Wow! By the end of March, 2020 there were roughly 140,000 cases each day. The chart here is really interesting to see how quickly Covid ramped up in a single month. March 1, there were only 62 cases. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_cases_in_March_2020Logarithmic growth is an amazing thing |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 14, 2024 14:48:09 GMT -5
It's America first.....unless you are trying to brownnose up to a dictator. What he did was reprehensible, because that was a LARGE supply of testing machines (I have a really good idea of how many that much money entailed) that could have been used in the US. I don't get why people do not look at crap like this and see that his words belie his actions. it HAS to be illegal. is that even being discussed? or do we all just assume that everything he does is illegal? I think that is a safe assumption. But the bigger assumption is that everything he does is immoral. Even if this isn't illegal, it was clearly immoral |
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 14, 2024 15:15:10 GMT -5
It's America first.....unless you are trying to brownnose up to a dictator. What he did was reprehensible, because that was a LARGE supply of testing machines (I have a really good idea of how many that much money entailed) that could have been used in the US. I don't get why people do not look at crap like this and see that his words belie his actions. it HAS to be illegal. is that even being discussed? or do we all just assume that everything he does is illegal? It would be very difficult to win an argument that it was a private act and therefore it was legal, per the Supreme Court ruling. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 14, 2024 19:47:24 GMT -5
it HAS to be illegal. is that even being discussed? or do we all just assume that everything he does is illegal? I think that is a safe assumption. But the bigger assumption is that everything he does is immoral. Even if this isn't illegal, it was clearly immoral it is also an insanely huge failure in leadership. i mean....really. not just squeezing stuff into that box. |
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 14, 2024 19:49:41 GMT -5
have you heard is crazy talk lately? he basically says that everything will be better if he is president. everyone will have a job. women will be protected. there will be no inflation. i remember Obama said ONE thing like that at one point, and everyone laughed at him. and sure, there are peals of laughter coming from some place, but none that i am hearing. the man has no plan for doing anything. not even winning. I would like to hope that women see the fallacy in that he is the one who stocked the Supreme Court and had us relegated back to being second class citizens with no body autonomy and our sole purpose is to be baby factories with plans in the wings to go after BC next. Not to mention he did exactly jack squat to address the wage gap, he blocked the ERA because it had been "too long" by the last state ratified it, didn't do ANYTHING to address the costs/shortage of elder or childcare which largely falls to women and resulted in us leaving the workforce in droves during the pandemic and according to economists it may take 20+ years before women's wages recover from it. But I know that he's not appealing to my type of woman voter. He is appealing to the type that would admit decades later she made up the charges against a young innocent black man. He is appealing to the women who scream at an African American man in the park bird watching. That is who is vowing to "protect" with his racist trope about hordes of brown people coming over the border to commit crimes. And these women will give up everything to maintain the illusion they have the same rights and privileges as their white husbands. REALLy hoping and praying that the former type of woman voter comes out in droves to cancel out the latter.  He SAYS he will be the protector of women, but at a recent rally he told a female heckler to go home to her momma, who would ‘beat the hell’ out of her. www.msnbc.com/way-too-early/watch/trump-suggests-woman-heckler-at-rally-should-get-the-hell-knocked-out-of-her-221653061529So he’s not planning on protecting ALL women. Just the ones that are good Trumpers. |
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Post by NastyWoman on Oct 14, 2024 20:27:48 GMT -5
it HAS to be illegal. is that even being discussed? or do we all just assume that everything he does is illegal? It would be very difficult to win an argument that it was a private act and therefore it was legal, per the Supreme Court ruling. Wouldn't those machines have to have been his private property for this to be a "private act"? Last time I looked you can't give away what doesn't belong to you, you would have to steal it first. And THAT (stealing) I am 100% certain is illegal. |
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 14, 2024 21:15:43 GMT -5
It would be very difficult to win an argument that it was a private act and therefore it was legal, per the Supreme Court ruling. Wouldn't those machines have to have been his private property for this to be a "private act"? Last time I looked you can't give away what doesn't belong to you, you would have to steal it first. And THAT (stealing) I am 100% certain is illegal. I am assuming they were government stock and the President releasing them would be an official act. |
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Post by scgal on Oct 15, 2024 6:28:32 GMT -5
It is awesome he did it good humanitarian. Russia should not be an enemy rather a friend that we keep a close eye on Seriously? You know how close we are to nuclear war because Putin invaded Ukraine and won’t admit he was wrong? Now Russia may get plunged into civil war due to Putin’s idiotic effort to seize a neighbor - civil war that might allow their nukes to get into the hands of someone who will use them? It would have been better if he died from COVID. Just another failure under this administration |
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Post by scgal on Oct 15, 2024 6:34:08 GMT -5
It is awesome he did it good humanitarian. Russia should not be an enemy rather a friend that we keep a close eye on Never ever in my lifetime would I ever believed an American would think of Russia as a friend. Are you really serious or just trolling? Not trolling. Think about it keeping them at a distance is not going well, keep your friiends close and your enemies closer. We don't have to be friends but keeping it friendly is better than an outcast especially if they can be a formatible combatant. Like I said it was a humanitarian thing to do. How much aid do we give everyone else hell Obama gave over 150 billion to Iran with the bullshit line of we had to it was their money. He is a traitor. Trump understands foreign policy better than any president since Regan. |
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Post by tbop77 on Oct 15, 2024 6:58:03 GMT -5
Never ever in my lifetime would I ever believed an American would think of Russia as a friend. Are you really serious or just trolling? Not trolling. Think about it keeping them at a distance is not going well, keep your friiends close and your enemies closer. We don't have to be friends but keeping it friendly is better than an outcast especially if they can be a formatible combatant. Like I said it was a humanitarian thing to do. How much aid do we give everyone else hell Obama gave over 150 billion to Iran with the bullshit line of we had to it was their money. He is a traitor. Trump understands foreign policy better than any president since Regan. Yep, I'd say Trump and Reagan are two peas in a pod with regards to circumventing the system. www.brown.edu/Research/Understanding_the_Iran_Contra_Affair/overview-case.php |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 15, 2024 7:08:43 GMT -5
Never ever in my lifetime would I ever believed an American would think of Russia as a friend. Are you really serious or just trolling? Not trolling. Think about it keeping them at a distance is not going well, keep your friiends close and your enemies closer. We don't have to be friends but keeping it friendly is better than an outcast especially if they can be a formatible combatant. Like I said it was a humanitarian thing to do. How much aid do we give everyone else hell Obama gave over 150 billion to Iran with the bullshit line of we had to it was their money. He is a traitor. Trump understands foreign policy better than any president since Regan. Again, what happened to America First? When Trump did this, we did not have enough testing capacity in the US. People probably died here because he did this. But you give Trump a pass on this. You also talk about how awful “liberals” are, yet think this is ok. Never in my lifetime would I have thought that conservatives would go soft on Russia. Your ability to excuse anything Trump does is absurd |
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 15, 2024 7:29:03 GMT -5
Never ever in my lifetime would I ever believed an American would think of Russia as a friend. Are you really serious or just trolling? Not trolling. Think about it keeping them at a distance is not going well, keep your friiends close and your enemies closer. We don't have to be friends but keeping it friendly is better than an outcast especially if they can be a formatible combatant. Like I said it was a humanitarian thing to do. How much aid do we give everyone else hell Obama gave over 150 billion to Iran with the bullshit line of we had to it was their money. He is a traitor. Trump understands foreign policy better than any president since Regan. Bless your cult member heart. A typical uninformed trump supporter. |
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Post by dondubble on Oct 15, 2024 10:21:49 GMT -5
Not trolling. Think about it keeping them at a distance is not going well, keep your friiends close and your enemies closer. We don't have to be friends but keeping it friendly is better than an outcast especially if they can be a formatible combatant. Like I said it was a humanitarian thing to do. How much aid do we give everyone else hell Obama gave over 150 billion to Iran with the bullshit line of we had to it was their money. He is a traitor. Trump understands foreign policy better than any president since Regan. Bless your cult member heart. A typical uninformed trump supporter. How true. The money was Iran’s and was part of the multi nation deal that Trump reneged on. Look at Iran now. And you want a traitor? How about giving ‘aid and comfort’ to our enemy the Taliban allowing 5000 hardened fighters to be released from Afghanistan prisons. Or his failed coup d’etat on Jan. 6th. Purely treasonous behavior against us and our Constitution. |
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Post by scgal on Oct 15, 2024 11:11:05 GMT -5
Bless your cult member heart. A typical uninformed trump supporter. How true. The money was Iran’s and was part of the multi nation deal that Trump reneged on. Look at Iran now. And you want a traitor? How about giving ‘aid and comfort’ to our enemy the Taliban allowing 5000 hardened fighters to be released from Afghanistan prisons. Or his failed coup d’etat on Jan. 6th. Purely treasonous behavior against us and our Constitution. Don't even start on how many terrorist that the Dems gave back. That dumb ass deal that Obama did was bull shit gave money to the people he support. He is not nor never was for America. I'll say it again Trump is totally innocent for J6 |
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Post by dondubble on Oct 15, 2024 11:25:49 GMT -5
How true. The money was Iran’s and was part of the multi nation deal that Trump reneged on. Look at Iran now. And you want a traitor? How about giving ‘aid and comfort’ to our enemy the Taliban allowing 5000 hardened fighters to be released from Afghanistan prisons. Or his failed coup d’etat on Jan. 6th. Purely treasonous behavior against us and our Constitution. Don't even start on how many terrorist that the Dems gave back. That dumb ass deal that Obama did was bull shit gave money to the people he support. He is not nor never was for America. I'll say it again Trump is totally innocent for J6 Weak deflection not worth debunking. Let’s just reiterate that you wholly support the treasonous traitor. Now when will you be putting your conservative cred to use on that $7.8 TRILLION he jacked up? |
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 15, 2024 11:48:10 GMT -5
How true. The money was Iran’s and was part of the multi nation deal that Trump reneged on. Look at Iran now. And you want a traitor? How about giving ‘aid and comfort’ to our enemy the Taliban allowing 5000 hardened fighters to be released from Afghanistan prisons. Or his failed coup d’etat on Jan. 6th. Purely treasonous behavior against us and our Constitution. Don't even start on how many terrorist that the Dems gave back. That dumb ass deal that Obama did was bull shit gave money to the people he support. He is not nor never was for America. I'll say it again Trump is totally innocent for J6 5150 time for you. |
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Oct 15, 2024 11:54:24 GMT -5
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 15, 2024 12:03:59 GMT -5
Never ever in my lifetime would I ever believed an American would think of Russia as a friend. Are you really serious or just trolling? Not trolling. Think about it keeping them at a distance is not going well, keep your friiends close and your enemies closer. We don't have to be friends but keeping it friendly is better than an outcast especially if they can be a formatible combatant. Like I said it was a humanitarian thing to do. How much aid do we give everyone else hell Obama gave over 150 billion to Iran with the bullshit line of we had to it was their money. He is a traitor. Trump understands foreign policy better than any president since Regan. You put on your own oxygen mask first before putting on your child's. By that time, the US was hamstrung in providing Covid tests. It's all a matter of perception, you don't give away what you cannot afford to give. At that point, the US could not afford to give those machines away. |
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 15, 2024 12:05:21 GMT -5
How true. The money was Iran’s and was part of the multi nation deal that Trump reneged on. Look at Iran now. And you want a traitor? How about giving ‘aid and comfort’ to our enemy the Taliban allowing 5000 hardened fighters to be released from Afghanistan prisons. Or his failed coup d’etat on Jan. 6th. Purely treasonous behavior against us and our Constitution. Don't even start on how many terrorist that the Dems gave back. That dumb ass deal that Obama did was bull shit gave money to the people he support. He is not nor never was for America. I'll say it again Trump is totally innocent for J6The evidence his own staff provided disagrees with you. |
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Post by dondubble on Oct 15, 2024 12:08:58 GMT -5
Not trolling. Think about it keeping them at a distance is not going well, keep your friiends close and your enemies closer. We don't have to be friends but keeping it friendly is better than an outcast especially if they can be a formatible combatant. Like I said it was a humanitarian thing to do. How much aid do we give everyone else hell Obama gave over 150 billion to Iran with the bullshit line of we had to it was their money. He is a traitor. Trump understands foreign policy better than any president since Regan. You put on your own oxygen mask first before putting on your child's. By that time, the US was hamstrung in providing Covid tests. It's all a matter of perception, you don't give away what you cannot afford to give. At that point, the US could not afford to give those machines away. Was Putin blackmailing him? |
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 15, 2024 12:18:52 GMT -5
You put on your own oxygen mask first before putting on your child's. By that time, the US was hamstrung in providing Covid tests. It's all a matter of perception, you don't give away what you cannot afford to give. At that point, the US could not afford to give those machines away. Was Putin blackmailing him? Good question. Even better, about what? Who cares as to what's already been released to the press. That's old news. |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 15, 2024 12:21:25 GMT -5
Not trolling. Think about it keeping them at a distance is not going well, keep your friiends close and your enemies closer. We don't have to be friends but keeping it friendly is better than an outcast especially if they can be a formatible combatant. Like I said it was a humanitarian thing to do. How much aid do we give everyone else hell Obama gave over 150 billion to Iran with the bullshit line of we had to it was their money. He is a traitor. Trump understands foreign policy better than any president since Regan. You put on your own oxygen mask first before putting on your child's. By that time, the US was hamstrung in providing Covid tests. It's all a matter of perception, you don't give away what you cannot afford to give. At that point, the US could not afford to give those machines away. When you do not think COVID is a big deal, the death counts were wrong and people were dying of something else, it was all happening in blue states, or you do not give a shit about people, this is the response you get. People who have empathy, care about the suffering of others, and believe we should help our fellow man think differently. In other words, a typical conservative who could give a shit about there fellow Americans, but believes we should care about the welfare of Russians. Who knew the President of the US cares about the wellbeing of Russians. Oh, that's right, one who looks for any money making opportunity and could give a shit about who gets hurt. |
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 15, 2024 12:25:00 GMT -5
You put on your own oxygen mask first before putting on your child's. By that time, the US was hamstrung in providing Covid tests. It's all a matter of perception, you don't give away what you cannot afford to give. At that point, the US could not afford to give those machines away. When you do not think COVID is a big deal, the death counts were wrong and people were dying of something else, it was all happening in blue states, or you do not give a shit about people, this is the response you get. People who have empathy, care about the suffering of others, and believe we should help our fellow man think differently. In other words, a typical conservative who could give a shit about there fellow Americans, but believes we should care about the welfare of Russians. Who knew the President of the US cares about the wellbeing of Russians. Oh, that's right, one who looks for any money making opportunity and could give a shit about who gets hurt. Isn't it a little hard to Make America Great Again when your actions kill more people off than just about anyplace else in the world? |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 15, 2024 12:28:48 GMT -5
When you do not think COVID is a big deal, the death counts were wrong and people were dying of something else, it was all happening in blue states, or you do not give a shit about people, this is the response you get. People who have empathy, care about the suffering of others, and believe we should help our fellow man think differently. In other words, a typical conservative who could give a shit about there fellow Americans, but believes we should care about the welfare of Russians. Who knew the President of the US cares about the wellbeing of Russians. Oh, that's right, one who looks for any money making opportunity and could give a shit about who gets hurt. Isn't it a little hard to Make America Great Again when your actions kill more people off than just about anyplace else in the world? Fake news |
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Post by swamp on Oct 15, 2024 12:55:56 GMT -5
I would like to hope that women see the fallacy in that he is the one who stocked the Supreme Court and had us relegated back to being second class citizens with no body autonomy and our sole purpose is to be baby factories with plans in the wings to go after BC next. Not to mention he did exactly jack squat to address the wage gap, he blocked the ERA because it had been "too long" by the last state ratified it, didn't do ANYTHING to address the costs/shortage of elder or childcare which largely falls to women and resulted in us leaving the workforce in droves during the pandemic and according to economists it may take 20+ years before women's wages recover from it. But I know that he's not appealing to my type of woman voter. He is appealing to the type that would admit decades later she made up the charges against a young innocent black man. He is appealing to the women who scream at an African American man in the park bird watching. That is who is vowing to "protect" with his racist trope about hordes of brown people coming over the border to commit crimes. And these women will give up everything to maintain the illusion they have the same rights and privileges as their white husbands. REALLy hoping and praying that the former type of woman voter comes out in droves to cancel out the latter. He SAYS he will be the protector of women, but at a recent rally he told a female heckler to go home to her momma, who would ‘beat the hell’ out of her. www.msnbc.com/way-too-early/watch/trump-suggests-woman-heckler-at-rally-should-get-the-hell-knocked-out-of-her-221653061529So he’s not planning on protecting ALL women. Just the ones that are good Trumpers. No thanks. I'll take the bear instead. |
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 15, 2024 13:17:14 GMT -5
No thanks. I'll take the bear instead.  I am sewing my Lady Gaga inspired meat dress as we speak. If I am going with the bear I want him to take me OUT before Eric Trump shows up to shoot it. |
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Post by tbop77 on Oct 15, 2024 14:59:29 GMT -5
How true. The money was Iran’s and was part of the multi nation deal that Trump reneged on. Look at Iran now. And you want a traitor? How about giving ‘aid and comfort’ to our enemy the Taliban allowing 5000 hardened fighters to be released from Afghanistan prisons. Or his failed coup d’etat on Jan. 6th. Purely treasonous behavior against us and our Constitution. Don't even start on how many terrorist that the Dems gave back. That dumb ass deal that Obama did was bull shit gave money to the people he support. He is not nor never was for America. I'll say it again Trump is totally innocent for J6 Here is a list of Republicans supporting Harris over Trump. Several high ranking from his own cabinet. They know for a fact that Trump is not nor never was for democracy and he was totally responsible for J6. And if I remember correctly, he only hires the best! www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/these-are-the-republicans-endorsing-harris-over-trump/ar-AA1s9Ro9 |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 15, 2024 15:00:56 GMT -5
She will call them all RINOS
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 15, 2024 15:05:48 GMT -5
the FACT IS that Trump (and his followers) is the RINO.
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