The Trump/HarrisDebate

[Tiny]

Sept 10, 2024 22:12:07 GMT -5 resolution said:

Sept 10, 2024 22:10:29 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Did trump brig up the lie Haitian immigrants are eating peoples's pets in Ohio?

He did! Repeatedly! The facilitator fact checked him and told him that he talked to the city manager there, who said there were no credible reports about pets being eaten, and Trump spoke over him and insisted that he had seen it on TV!

you are kidding me.    OMG.  I just started hearing about this Haitian immigrant thing....   

Can we not suggest that Republicans are taking dogs from shelters across the country (millions of them!)  and selling/shipping them to China to be use for human consumption?   They are making tons of money from this endeavor  since they can acquire the dogs for pennies a pound.  And they get the grift from all the donation money people make to shelters as well as paddingtheir pockets with Tax Dollars when local governments provide money for Animal Control workers (which collects up the dogs and delivers them to the shelters) as well as any money spent on maintaining those shelters (where the dogs go in and never come out but are never euthanized).   I can totally see Republicans giving those animal control jobs to their relatives and friends  or anyone they owe a favor to.  I can totally see them "cooking the books" for all the money "spent" to maintain the shelter facility but magically finding it's way into the pockets of the politician's cronies....  tax dollars at work. 

Usually when trump says that someone else is doing X  - he or the Republican party IS actually doing X.   

[billisonboard]

Sept 10, 2024 5:41:06 GMT -5 scgal said:

... He will dominate her. I dont' think he will destroy her but he will be the dominate one. No matter how off topic he may travel she will start to cackle like a hyena and show weakness. Outside of some wishy washy liberals most Americans want a strong leader one that will project strength she doesn't do it. The Democrats would have been better off not debating after this debate he should be able to take the swing states. It may not show it in the polls but come voting day it will

Sept 10, 2024 6:18:20 GMT -5 scgal said:

... I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Perception is everything. He will manipulate her into showing her weakness and yes her laughing the way she does is weakness it's fear of not know how to handle the situation children will do this when they embarrassed. That is how she will be perceived. Trump is a strong leader and a bully that is what makes him so good for the position. Many on here will disagree but the US will need a bully of a president instead of a pathetic pos that Obama was. 

Didn't see it. 

[Tennesseer]

Harris knocked trump out of the park.

[djAdvocate]

Sept 10, 2024 23:17:24 GMT -5 Tiny said:

Sept 10, 2024 22:12:07 GMT -5 resolution said:

He did! Repeatedly! The facilitator fact checked him and told him that he talked to the city manager there, who said there were no credible reports about pets being eaten, and Trump spoke over him and insisted that he had seen it on TV!

you are kidding me.    OMG.  I just started hearing about this Haitian immigrant thing....   

Can we not suggest that Republicans are taking dogs from shelters across the country (millions of them!)  and selling/shipping them to China to be use for human consumption?   They are making tons of money from this endeavor  since they can acquire the dogs for pennies a pound.  And they get the grift from all the donation money people make to shelters as well as paddingtheir pockets with Tax Dollars when local governments provide money for Animal Control workers (which collects up the dogs and delivers them to the shelters) as well as any money spent on maintaining those shelters (where the dogs go in and never come out but are never euthanized).   I can totally see Republicans giving those animal control jobs to their relatives and friends  or anyone they owe a favor to.  I can totally see them "cooking the books" for all the money "spent" to maintain the shelter facility but magically finding it's way into the pockets of the politician's cronies....  tax dollars at work. 

Usually when trump says that someone else is doing X  - he or the Republican party IS actually doing X.   

no.  for real.  he said he would check it out.
you know, like he said he would check out Obama's birth certificate.
and he would check out election fraud.
how did all of that go for him?

[Tennesseer]

The Borowitz Report

Trump Claims He Has Never Met Kamala Harris
TBR Post-Debate Coverage
SEP 11, 2024

PHILADELPHIA (The Borowitz Report)—Concern about Donald J. Trump’s cognitive decline surged after Tuesday night’s debate when he claimed that he never met Kamala Harris.

“I’ve never met her, and based on what I’ve been told, I hope I never do, because she seems like a horrible person,” he told reporters.

Trump’s incoherent debate performance caused his supporter Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to wonder if the Republican nominee’s brain was hosting a foreign organism.

“When he said, ‘They’e eating the dogs, they’re eating the cats,’ I was like, ‘Oh my God, a worm is eating his brain,’” Kennedy said.

Trump Claims He Has Never Met Kamala Harris

[ripvanwinkle]

Trump didn't do as well as I hoped. I'll give the debate 60/40 Harris.

[countrygirl2]

Harris did very well, she was poised, informed, and smooth. I mean trump not even shaking her hand, how childish. He has no policy,no nothing, just the same tired ridiculous stuff that he repeats over and over. Nothing about goals for the country, nothing.

And the dog and cat thing really got me. I mean that made him sound  like a total lunatic, I just shake my head anytime I hear him and wonder how anyone with common sense or a mind could even consider that man.

[happyhoix]

Sept 10, 2024 23:10:42 GMT -5 busymom said:

Our local news station was fact checking, and denounced Trump for claiming that babies could be terminated after birth.  (Of course, that's not legal in ANY state.)  Their political reporter also said he didn't know what to say about the statements about pet eating, implying that's just plain crazy.  (Well, it is.)  That reporter is going to be spending the night going through statements both candidates made, and doing the true/false test for tomorrow's news.  I bet I know who told more whoppers.  

I would like to know the number of times Trump started on an unrelated topic but wound up railing about the hordes of immigrants (or immigrants eating pets). It was almost the only thing he talked about.

[Tennesseer]

CNN's fact checkers stated trump offered misinformation or outright lied thirty-three times versus Harris' one.

[Tennesseer]

Sept 11, 2024 0:12:19 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Trump didn't do as well as I hoped. I'll give the debate 60/40 Harris.

You and that female poster from South Carolina have eaten too many of your neighbors' pets and ended up with worms eating your brains causing you to think an aged man's cognitive abilities could beat a younger and more experienced candidate. All Trump could offer last night was to make faces like some little kid.

Harris was also the adult candidate who first offered her hand to her immature opponent. Not the poor sport and liar trump.

trump's cognitive decline is quite evident.

[happyhoix]

Trump supporters are claiming the moderators were anti Trump because they fact checked Trump a few times - like how it is not legal in any states to kill a baby after birth and that immigrants are not eating cats and dogs.

I guess he should be allowed to lie extravagantly with no consequences.

[Tennesseer]

Sept 11, 2024 5:23:33 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Trump supporters are claiming the moderators were anti Trump because they fact checked Trump a few times - like how it is not legal in any states to kill a baby after birth and that immigrants are not eating cats and dogs.

I guess he should be allowed to lie extravagantly with no consequences.

Meh. Just the usual trump supporters not holding him accountable for his outright lies.

[pulmonarymd]

Sept 10, 2024 22:26:03 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Sept 10, 2024 22:25:13 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Does he ever tell the truth?

You have to ask?

It was a rhetorical question. Anytime he opens his mouth he is lying

[Tennesseer]

Sept 11, 2024 5:40:31 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Sept 10, 2024 22:26:03 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

You have to ask?

It was a rhetorical question. Anytime he opens his mouth he is lying

I knew it was rhetorical. Hence the smiley face.

[Tennesseer]

Whiney fox news.

Fox News hosts decide who lost the debate: ABC News.

Left with little to praise about former President Donald J. Trump’s underwhelming debate performance, Fox News hosts quickly focused their ire on ABC News, accusing the network and its debate moderators of skewing their questions to Vice President Kamala Harris’s advantage.

Martha MacCallum, who co-anchored Fox’s post-debate coverage on Tuesday night, opened by declaring that Ms. Harris had been given a free pass by the ABC moderators and “was really never held to the fire.”

“That falls on ABC,” Ms. MacCallum added, to much agreement from her colleagues around the table. “I think there were moments when it felt like they were helping her out.”

Sean Hannity called ABC News “the biggest loser in the debate.”

And Laura Ingraham insisted that it was ABC’s intent all along to boost the vice president. “ABC’s goal tonight was to help Kamala Harris,” she said. “And ABC did help Kamala Harris.”

Ms. Ingraham also offered a gentle criticism of the former president. “Did Donald Trump miss a few opportunities?” she asked. “Absolutely.”

Only Brit Hume, one of Fox’s longest-serving on-air personalities, went beyond simply acknowledging Mr. Trump’s uneven performance. “Make no mistake about it,” he said. “Trump had a bad night.”

Still, Fox News was not the only network whose anchors were unsubtle about their view of the debate. Over on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow told viewers that her colleagues were so thrilled with Ms. Harris’s performance that they were debating whether she might have had “the best televised presidential debate performance ever.”

Fox News hosts decide who lost the debate: ABC News.

[weltz]

Sept 10, 2024 5:41:06 GMT -5 scgal said:

Sept 9, 2024 22:07:46 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Since the Trump/Harris debate is tomorrow I think we need a thread on it. I think if Trump stays cool he''ll win.

He will dominate her. I dont' think he will destroy her but he will be the dominate one. No matter how off topic he may travel she will start to cackle like a hyena and show weakness. Outside of some wishy washy liberals most Americans want a strong leader one that will project strength she doesn't do it. The Democrats would have been better off not debating after this debate he should be able to take the swing states. It may not show it in the polls but come voting day it will

Harris chewed him up and ate him for supper.  

[tbop77]

Sept 10, 2024 23:25:59 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Sept 10, 2024 5:41:06 GMT -5 scgal said:

... He will dominate her. I dont' think he will destroy her but he will be the dominate one. No matter how off topic he may travel she will start to cackle like a hyena and show weakness. Outside of some wishy washy liberals most Americans want a strong leader one that will project strength she doesn't do it. The Democrats would have been better off not debating after this debate he should be able to take the swing states. It may not show it in the polls but come voting day it will

Sept 10, 2024 6:18:20 GMT -5 scgal said:

... I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Perception is everything. He will manipulate her into showing her weakness and yes her laughing the way she does is weakness it's fear of not know how to handle the situation children will do this when they embarrassed. That is how she will be perceived. Trump is a strong leader and a bully that is what makes him so good for the position. Many on here will disagree but the US will need a bully of a president instead of a pathetic pos that Obama was. 

Didn't see it. 

And didn't see her "cackle like a hyena" once!  

[pulmonarymd]

Sept 11, 2024 5:53:20 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Whiney fox news.

Fox News hosts decide who lost the debate: ABC News.

Left with little to praise about former President Donald J. Trump’s underwhelming debate performance, Fox News hosts quickly focused their ire on ABC News, accusing the network and its debate moderators of skewing their questions to Vice President Kamala Harris’s advantage.

Martha MacCallum, who co-anchored Fox’s post-debate coverage on Tuesday night, opened by declaring that Ms. Harris had been given a free pass by the ABC moderators and “was really never held to the fire.”

“That falls on ABC,” Ms. MacCallum added, to much agreement from her colleagues around the table. “I think there were moments when it felt like they were helping her out.”

Sean Hannity called ABC News “the biggest loser in the debate.”

And Laura Ingraham insisted that it was ABC’s intent all along to boost the vice president. “ABC’s goal tonight was to help Kamala Harris,” she said. “And ABC did help Kamala Harris.”

Ms. Ingraham also offered a gentle criticism of the former president. “Did Donald Trump miss a few opportunities?” she asked. “Absolutely.”

Only Brit Hume, one of Fox’s longest-serving on-air personalities, went beyond simply acknowledging Mr. Trump’s uneven performance. “Make no mistake about it,” he said. “Trump had a bad night.”

Still, Fox News was not the only network whose anchors were unsubtle about their view of the debate. Over on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow told viewers that her colleagues were so thrilled with Ms. Harris’s performance that they were debating whether she might have had “the best televised presidential debate performance ever.”

Fox News hosts decide who lost the debate: ABC News.

Sore losers blame the refs. We do know he is a sore loser.

In addition, as people are saying, if you are explaining, you are losing

[Tennesseer]

trump's legacy will be his statement immigrants are eating peoples' pets in Ohio.

[happyhoix]

Sept 11, 2024 6:42:12 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

trump's legacy will be his statement immigrants are eating peoples' pets in Ohio.

I didn’t get to watch the last half hour but heard Trump tried to defend his actions around the Central Park five - what could he possibly say about that? He wanted to put to death five kids who were later exonerated.

What did he say?

[Opti]

Sept 11, 2024 6:52:29 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Sept 11, 2024 6:42:12 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

trump's legacy will be his statement immigrants are eating peoples' pets in Ohio.

I didn’t get to watch the last half hour but heard Trump tried to defend his actions around the Central Park five - what could he possibly say about that? He wanted to put to death five kids who were later exonerated.

What did he say?

He blamed it on other people, but I do not remember who. 

[pulmonarymd]

As is typical for his MO. Nothing is ever his failt

[Opti]

And on the economy, Trump said: “She copied Biden’s plan. And it’s like four sentences. Run, spot, run.”

One sentence with three words in it, but I wouldn't be surprised if his base thought that was genius. It was weird he did not make up his mind about her economy policy before coming to the debate. He accuses her of being Marxist then says she's stealing his policies. Does that make his policy Marxist?

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/5-key-takeaways-from-the-first-harris-trump-presidential-debate/ar-AA1qm6kG?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=78ccc0baaf894a5c8ea426d14ce92b6c&ei=15

[Opti]

Trump also made interesting statements about China and their cars. Right now, Tesla has a factory in Shanghai and sells to the Japanese market and others from that factory. A Chinese company now owns Volvo and there are two models built in China. The biggest Volvo SUV and am EV. Right now, there aren't Chinese cars being sold in the US. That may change as China just passed Japan as a top exporter of vehicles. According to the article I read 29% of new car buyers of Chinese vehicles buy EVs. Our infrastructure for EVs is still far from robust.

[minnesotapaintlady]

Sept 11, 2024 6:42:12 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

trump's legacy will be his statement immigrants are eating peoples' pets in Ohio.

Personally, "doing the weave" is going to be my new go to phrase for someone suffering dementia.

[Tennesseer]

trump has always said Russia would have not started its war with Ukraine if he was president.  When asked last night by moderator David Muir if he wants Ukraine to win its war with Russia, trump would not answer Muir's question.

Telling.

[Tennesseer]

Sept 11, 2024 6:52:29 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Sept 11, 2024 6:42:12 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

trump's legacy will be his statement immigrants are eating peoples' pets in Ohio.

I didn’t get to watch the last half hour but heard Trump tried to defend his actions around the Central Park five - what could he possibly say about that? He wanted to put to death five kids who were later exonerated.

What did he say?

I changed channels after the debate began. I just cannot stand the sound of trump's voice or sight of his face. I did turn it back on for its final few minutes. So not sure what trump had to offer regarding the Central Park Five.

[Tennesseer]

Sept 11, 2024 7:25:39 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Sept 11, 2024 6:42:12 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

trump's legacy will be his statement immigrants are eating peoples' pets in Ohio.

Personally, "doing the weave" is going to be my new go to phrase for someone suffering dementia.

The DSM-5 should list it as a new mental illness and call it Trump Weave Syndrome.

[teen persuasion]

Sept 11, 2024 6:52:29 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Sept 11, 2024 6:42:12 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

trump's legacy will be his statement immigrants are eating peoples' pets in Ohio.

I didn’t get to watch the last half hour but heard Trump tried to defend his actions around the Central Park five - what could he possibly say about that? He wanted to put to death five kids who were later exonerated.

What did he say?

I think he said something about "They confessed - so they were guilty". It was garbled.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Sept 11, 2024 5:53:20 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Whiney fox news.

Fox News hosts decide who lost the debate: ABC News.

Left with little to praise about former President Donald J. Trump’s underwhelming debate performance, Fox News hosts quickly focused their ire on ABC News, accusing the network and its debate moderators of skewing their questions to Vice President Kamala Harris’s advantage.

Martha MacCallum, who co-anchored Fox’s post-debate coverage on Tuesday night, opened by declaring that Ms. Harris had been given a free pass by the ABC moderators and “was really never held to the fire.”

“That falls on ABC,” Ms. MacCallum added, to much agreement from her colleagues around the table. “I think there were moments when it felt like they were helping her out.”

Sean Hannity called ABC News “the biggest loser in the debate.”

And Laura Ingraham insisted that it was ABC’s intent all along to boost the vice president. “ABC’s goal tonight was to help Kamala Harris,” she said. “And ABC did help Kamala Harris.”

Ms. Ingraham also offered a gentle criticism of the former president. “Did Donald Trump miss a few opportunities?” she asked. “Absolutely.”

Only Brit Hume, one of Fox’s longest-serving on-air personalities, went beyond simply acknowledging Mr. Trump’s uneven performance. “Make no mistake about it,” he said. “Trump had a bad night.”

Still, Fox News was not the only network whose anchors were unsubtle about their view of the debate. Over on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow told viewers that her colleagues were so thrilled with Ms. Harris’s performance that they were debating whether she might have had “the best televised presidential debate performance ever.”

Fox News hosts decide who lost the debate: ABC News.

Da-F*ck?

All Trump had to do was not say that Haitians eat peoples pets and that you can abort babies after they are born.   

A two year old could have accomplished that feat.

All he had to do was keep his mouth shut and stick to whatever his handlers told him to say.  How is ABC news skewing things against Trump?   There could have been a baboon leading the debate and Trump still would have failed.