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Post by happyhoix on Aug 24, 2024 10:27:18 GMT -5
Yeah, he’s saying he has the votes he needs, so if he loses, that’s proof he was cheated. Again. I don’t understand what he means by ‘I have the votes.’ No one has any votes until we actually vote. Polls don’t mean shit. I think this: For Trump, a former reality television star, the size of the audience has long been paramount, a measurement he believes foreshadowed his 2016 upset victory over Hillary Clinton and one he consistently touts as evidence that the pollsters and pundits who are increasingly pessimistic about his reelection chances are wrong again. link Well, the last three days of the DNC drew way more viewers than the RNC - Bigly. If we use the size of the audience to declare the winner prior to Election Day, Trump loses. So Trump must be in full panic mode. |
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Post by scgal on Aug 24, 2024 11:19:02 GMT -5
First of all I'm talking about the document case that is the only case where I can see any crime being committed and such would be ok with any outcome. The Carroll care I think is bull as well as the Daniels case. Funny how you do not trust some juries. Yet you do not care that innocent people have been sentenced to death. Not that I don't trust some juries. The fact is I don't trust certain prosecutors with political agendas. The juries are doing their job and I acknowledge their decisions it doesn't mean a damn thing to me but I acknowledge it. |
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Post by scgal on Aug 24, 2024 11:20:31 GMT -5
First of all I'm talking about the document case that is the only case where I can see any crime being committed and such would be ok with any outcome. The Carroll care I think is bull as well as the Daniels case. And yet juries convicted trump. Juries are never involved when no crimes have been committed. I imagine you will be in attendance for this event.  If it was close by and more affordable I would. |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 24, 2024 13:09:28 GMT -5
Funny how you do not trust some juries. Yet you do not care that innocent people have been sentenced to death. Not that I don't trust some juries. The fact is I don't trust certain prosecutors with political agendas. The juries are doing their job and I acknowledge their decisions it doesn't mean a damn thing to me but I acknowledge it. Trump was convicted of a felony. The law was on the books. You don’t agree with it because you distrust “liberals”. But if you don’t like the law, repeal it. There are plenty of laws in a Shithole” state like SC that we don’t agree with. Doesn’t change the fact that someone who was convicted of one of those is a criminal. Or is someone a criminal only if you agree with the law that was broken? So much for the party of “law and order”. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 24, 2024 14:37:03 GMT -5
Funny how you do not trust some juries. Yet you do not care that innocent people have been sentenced to death. Not that I don't trust some juries. The fact is I don't trust certain prosecutors with political agendas. The juries are doing their job and I acknowledge their decisions it doesn't mean a damn thing to me but I acknowledge it. neither do judges. neither do juries. this is why i trust the SYSTEM to produce just results. it doesn't always work that way. but it usually does. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 24, 2024 14:42:53 GMT -5
Not that I don't trust some juries. The fact is I don't trust certain prosecutors with political agendas. The juries are doing their job and I acknowledge their decisions it doesn't mean a damn thing to me but I acknowledge it. Trump was convicted of 34 felonies. The law was on the books. You don’t agree with it because you distrust “liberals”. But if you don’t like the law, repeal it. There are plenty of laws in SC that we don’t agree with. Doesn’t change the fact that someone who was convicted of one of those is a criminal. Or is someone a criminal only if you agree with the law that was broken? So much for the party of “law and order”. this is actually a really important consideration. the constitution and jurisprudence in the US require that we be tried in the jurisdiction that the crime was committed by a jury of our peers (people who live in that jurisdiction). if it is impossible to be judged fairly in that jurisdiction, then a defendant can move for a change of venue. that was done in this case, and was overruled. why? because the courts felt that it could be tried fairly, that's why. if you look at the composition of the jury, there was one juror that got his (her?) news ONLY from Truth Social. i thought for sure that would be trouble. so, i would have been pretty upset if the jury had been hung, that this had been overlooked or ignored or passed along. but that is NOT how it turned out. Trump ONLY needed to convince ONE juror that he was being persecuted. the one that was in his cult should have served him well in that pursuit. i can't imagine that a trial could have been done better, given the requirements of the court and our system of justice. i am sorry that others don't feel that way. |
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Post by scgal on Aug 24, 2024 15:41:58 GMT -5
Not that I don't trust some juries. The fact is I don't trust certain prosecutors with political agendas. The juries are doing their job and I acknowledge their decisions it doesn't mean a damn thing to me but I acknowledge it. Trump was convicted of a felony. The law was on the books. You don’t agree with it because you distrust “liberals”. But if you don’t like the law, repeal it. There are plenty of laws in a Shithole” state like SC that we don’t agree with. Doesn’t change the fact that someone who was convicted of one of those is a criminal. Or is someone a criminal only if you agree with the law that was broken? So much for the party of “law and order”. Untie your stethoscope doc. I just said I don't agree with some of the charges I think they were politically motivated that is my right. I have an opinion it differs from others not that big of a deal. As far as my state I'm good with it we are not in debt like other states, the public schools are shit that is about the only thing I don't like, it is nice and red. |
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Aug 24, 2024 15:48:38 GMT -5
Trump was convicted of a felony. The law was on the books. You don’t agree with it because you distrust “liberals”. But if you don’t like the law, repeal it. There are plenty of laws in a Shithole” state like SC that we don’t agree with. Doesn’t change the fact that someone who was convicted of one of those is a criminal. Or is someone a criminal only if you agree with the law that was broken? So much for the party of “law and order”. Untie your stethoscope doc. I just said I don't agree with some of the charges I think they were politically motivated that is my right. I have an opinion it differs from others not that big of a deal. As far as my state I'm good with it we are not in debt like other states, the public schools are shit that is about the only thing I don't like, it is nice and red. You're not in debt as much as SOME other states, but you have more debt than a lot of them including a lot of blue states.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 24, 2024 16:26:26 GMT -5
And yet juries convicted trump. Juries are never involved when no crimes have been committed. I imagine you will be in attendance for this event. If it was close by and more affordable I would. I am sure you would! You backing insurrectionists indeed! Tells us all that you supported the overthrow of a duly elected new president. |
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Post by Opti on Aug 24, 2024 16:27:06 GMT -5
Untie your stethoscope doc. I just said I don't agree with some of the charges I think they were politically motivated that is my right. I have an opinion it differs from others not that big of a deal. As far as my state I'm good with it we are not in debt like other states, the public schools are shit that is about the only thing I don't like, it is nice and red. You're not in debt as much as SOME other states, but you have more debt than a lot of them including a lot of blue states.
Yikes. However, I noticed the top three are also the three most expensive states to live in the US, New Jersey, CT, and Hawaii. Of those three both NJ and CT pay more than their fair share into the federal government. If other states pulled their weight more, perhaps at least NJ and CT would be better funded. |
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Post by Opti on Aug 24, 2024 16:27:44 GMT -5
If it was close by and more affordable I would. I am sure you would! You backing insurrectionists indeed! Tells us all that you supported the overthrow of a duly elected new president. SCP will probably be there, she could hang out with him. |
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Post by scgal on Aug 24, 2024 16:40:42 GMT -5
Untie your stethoscope doc. I just said I don't agree with some of the charges I think they were politically motivated that is my right. I have an opinion it differs from others not that big of a deal. As far as my state I'm good with it we are not in debt like other states, the public schools are shit that is about the only thing I don't like, it is nice and red. You're not in debt as much as SOME other states, but you have more debt than a lot of them including a lot of blue states.
Agreed, not looking at gdp to liabilities just debt. I can't believe how bad some of these state are. |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 24, 2024 16:59:52 GMT -5
Trump was convicted of a felony. The law was on the books. You don’t agree with it because you distrust “liberals”. But if you don’t like the law, repeal it. There are plenty of laws in a Shithole” state like SC that we don’t agree with. Doesn’t change the fact that someone who was convicted of one of those is a criminal. Or is someone a criminal only if you agree with the law that was broken? So much for the party of “law and order”. Untie your stethoscope doc. I just said I don't agree with some of the charges I think they were politically motivated that is my right. I have an opinion it differs from others not that big of a deal. As far as my state I'm good with it we are not in debt like other states, the public schools are shit that is about the only thing I don't like, it is nice and red. Again, Trump was convicted of a felony. A crime in the jurisdiction he was in. So, by definition, he is a felon. Doesn’t matter if you agree with the charge. You support a party that believes a felon is qualified to be president of the US. Do you disagree with that statement? |
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Post by tallguy on Aug 24, 2024 17:54:21 GMT -5
You're not in debt as much as SOME other states, but you have more debt than a lot of them including a lot of blue states.
Agreed, not looking at gdp to liabilities just debt. I can't believe how bad some of these state are.Q. Why are South Carolinians so thankful for Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Alabama, West Virginia, and Mississippi? A. Because they pretty much guarantee that South Carolina will not rank bottom-5 in anything.  |
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Post by scgal on Aug 24, 2024 18:22:20 GMT -5
Untie your stethoscope doc. I just said I don't agree with some of the charges I think they were politically motivated that is my right. I have an opinion it differs from others not that big of a deal. As far as my state I'm good with it we are not in debt like other states, the public schools are shit that is about the only thing I don't like, it is nice and red. Again, Trump was convicted of a felony. A crime in the jurisdiction he was in. So, by definition, he is a felon. Doesn’t matter if you agree with the charge. You support a party that believes a felon is qualified to be president of the US. Do you disagree with that statement? And your point is? Yes he was convicted. For about 45% of the country we rather see a convicted felon than Kamala. Shows how little we think of Kamala. You and your parts doesn't like Trump. I'd rather see a different republican candidate but my opinion is this is who we have and he is leaps and bounds better than Kamala. |
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Post by scgal on Aug 24, 2024 18:24:25 GMT -5
Agreed, not looking at gdp to liabilities just debt. I can't believe how bad some of these state are.Q. Why are South Carolinians so thankful for Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Alabama, West Virginia, and Mississippi? A. Because they pretty much guarantee that South Carolina will not rank bottom-5 in anything. Thankful to NY, Nj, CA they all have astronomical debt. So your point it |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 24, 2024 18:27:40 GMT -5
Q. Why are South Carolinians so thankful for Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Alabama, West Virginia, and Mississippi? A. Because they pretty much guarantee that South Carolina will not rank bottom-5 in anything. Thankful to NY, Nj, CA they all have astronomical debt. So your point it His point is that those states and SC are at g to he bottom of every health and economic metric, and the states you are trying to disrespect are at the top. Not to mention that the existence of those states you dis allows those states and yours to have a better quality of life to a you would have otherwise. But ignore those facts and continue to show your ignorance and dis us |
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Post by scgal on Aug 24, 2024 18:36:59 GMT -5
Thankful to NY, Nj, CA they all have astronomical debt. So your point it His point is that those states and SC are at g to he bottom of every health and economic metric, and the states you are trying to disrespect are at the top. Not to mention that the existence of those states you dis allows those states and yours to have a better quality of life to a you would have otherwise. But ignore those facts and continue to show your ignorance and dis us Facts are those state I mentioned have a crazy amount of debt which have absolutely nothing to do with South Carolina. Our quality of life here is great. 27% of the people who moved to SC last year was for retirement and is the 2nd people go to live in retirement (right after Florida). Bitch and complain all you want. |
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Thankful to NY, Nj, CA they all have astronomical debt. So your point it His point is that those states and SC are at g to he bottom of every health and economic metric, and the states you are trying to disrespect are at the top. Not to mention that the existence of those states you dis allows those states and yours to have a better quality of life to a you would have otherwise. But ignore those facts and continue to show your ignorance and dis us Yes, and it is virtually EVERY metric. And to further illustrate the difference look at the "richest states" list, although health and education metrics might be similar. There may be a few more red states than blue states overall, but the top ten for income are all blue while the bottom 16 or so are all red. Look at the list of which states send more money to the federal government than they receive back from the federal government. Most "donor" states are blue, while most "taker" states are red. It is not a shock that that is true. It is not even a surprise. We don't really begrudge red states for that, but it would be nice if they at least realized and appreciated it. Maybe said "Thank you" on occasion.  |
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Post by tallguy on Aug 24, 2024 18:49:45 GMT -5
His point is that those states and SC are at g to he bottom of every health and economic metric, and the states you are trying to disrespect are at the top. Not to mention that the existence of those states you dis allows those states and yours to have a better quality of life to a you would have otherwise. But ignore those facts and continue to show your ignorance and dis us Facts are those state I mentioned have a crazy amount of debt which have absolutely nothing to do with South Carolina. Our quality of life here is great. 27% of the people who moved to SC last year was for retirement and is the 2nd people go to live in retirement (right after Florida). Bitch and complain all you want. Just realize that people are moving to such places because housing is cheap and weather is warmer. Taxes are low not because you are more efficient, but because you do not offer anywhere close to the same number or type of services. South Carolina also ranks near the top in residents' dependence on the federal government. You're welcome. |
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Post by Opti on Aug 24, 2024 18:58:38 GMT -5
Again, Trump was convicted of a felony. A crime in the jurisdiction he was in. So, by definition, he is a felon. Doesn’t matter if you agree with the charge. You support a party that believes a felon is qualified to be president of the US. Do you disagree with that statement? And your point is? Yes he was convicted. For about 45% of the country we rather see a convicted felon than Kamala. Shows how little we think of Kamala. You and your parts doesn't like Trump. I'd rather see a different republican candidate but my opinion is this is who we have and he is leaps and bounds better than Kamala. I think its considerably less than 45%. We will see what voter turnout is but over 10% of registered voters won't even vote, so I don't think they care that much. |
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Post by busymom on Aug 24, 2024 19:04:43 GMT -5
His point is that those states and SC are at g to he bottom of every health and economic metric, and the states you are trying to disrespect are at the top. Not to mention that the existence of those states you dis allows those states and yours to have a better quality of life to a you would have otherwise. But ignore those facts and continue to show your ignorance and dis us Facts are those state I mentioned have a crazy amount of debt which have absolutely nothing to do with South Carolina. Our quality of life here is great. 27% of the people who moved to SC last year was for retirement and is the 2nd people go to live in retirement (right after Florida). Bitch and complain all you want. As a former resident of FL, I'm glad I got out. No state tax sounds great until you find out they ream you on everything else, like fees, property taxes, and other stuff. We're back in the Midwest and are actually putting money into savings once again because we don't need to spend every dollar just to survive like we did down there. Don't even get me started on their lack of medical care in FL. If you cannot afford health insurance when you're retired, the doctors won't even see you. The number of "go fund me" requests I saw for medical care was appalling, and it wasn't for fancy surgeries, it was for everyday stuff. My former neighbors (who I adored, by the way) have kept me informed on the big increases in property taxes & homeowners insurance since we left. Beaches are nice, but if the government won't even help the oldest nor the disabled, what's the point of living there? And I'm not even bringing up what DeSantis is doing to that state... |
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Post by tallguy on Aug 24, 2024 19:24:18 GMT -5
Facts are those state I mentioned have a crazy amount of debt which have absolutely nothing to do with South Carolina. Our quality of life here is great. 27% of the people who moved to SC last year was for retirement and is the 2nd people go to live in retirement (right after Florida). Bitch and complain all you want. As a former resident of FL, I'm glad I got out. No state tax sounds great until you find out they ream you on everything else, like fees, property taxes, and other stuff. We're back in the Midwest and are actually putting money into savings once again because we don't need to spend every dollar just to survive like we did down there. Don't even get me started on their lack of medical care in FL. If you cannot afford health insurance when you're retired, the doctors won't even see you. The number of "go fund me" requests I saw for medical care was appalling, and it wasn't for fancy surgeries, it was for everyday stuff. My former neighbors (who I adored, by the way) have kept me informed on the big increases in property taxes & homeowners insurance since we left. Beaches are nice, but if the government won't even help the oldest nor the disabled, what's the point of living there? And I'm not even bringing up what DeSantis is doing to that state... It's not only that, but quality of care as well. My GF splits the year between Washington and Florida. She will go to doctors in Florida when she needs to, but if there is anything important that needs to be done, there is not a chance in hell that it will be in Florida if she can get back here instead. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 24, 2024 19:47:54 GMT -5
Again, Trump was convicted of a felony. A crime in the jurisdiction he was in. So, by definition, he is a felon. Doesn’t matter if you agree with the charge. You support a party that believes a felon is qualified to be president of the US. Do you disagree with that statement? And your point is? Yes he was convicted. For about 45% of the country we rather see a convicted felon than Kamala. Shows how little we think of Kamala. You and your parts doesn't like Trump. I'd rather see a different republican candidate but my opinion is this is who we have and he is leaps and bounds better than Kamala. maybe. about a decade ago, i recognized the fact that many in the GOP considered Democrats "evil". i recognized that this was permission to vote for the worst Republican ever. that this would excuse any injury that was foisted upon Democrats, up to the pain of death. and i realized it was the end of politics as we knew it. this was about the same time that decorum ended with that asshole yelling "you lie" during Obama's SOTU address. our politics has sucked for a LONG time. the divisions are deep, and nobody is looking at facts anymore. all the proof i need is that 45% are ready to vote for a convicted criminal over a PROSECUTOR with a squeaky clean record. but the same was true of Obama- who was also squeaky clean family guy. nobody ever pinned a damn thing on him, but he was LOATHED by the 45%. i hope that Trump gets absolutely creamed. because that is the only thing that will bring about change in the US. i would wish for Kamala to get creamed if i didn't view Trump as a threat to the nation (and Kamala not a threat). maybe if Democrats clean the floor with MAGA, we can get back to some semblance of policy based politics. until then, it doesn't actually matter to most what Kamala's policies are. the only thing that matters is that Trump is a threat to politics itself in the US. and yes, that is a shame for the US, as we are not having a rational discourse about the choices that face us at a granular level. but there is only ONE person to blame for that, and it is not Kamala. |
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Post by busymom on Aug 24, 2024 19:53:02 GMT -5
Gee, a rapist (including underage girls), a conman, a convicted felon, an adulterer, a guy who is actually trying to make money off of being in the White House while pretending to serve the average American, a guy who insults and then threatens everyone who disagrees with him... What's not to like?   |
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Gee, a rapist (including underage girls), a conman, a convicted felon, an adulterer, a guy who is actually trying to make money off of being in the White House while pretending to serve the average American, a guy who insults and then threatens everyone who disagrees with him... What's not to like? He even rips off charities and commits fraud against his own Trump U. Students. He is a despicable and loathsome fiend.👹 |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 25, 2024 7:16:01 GMT -5
As a former resident of FL, I'm glad I got out. No state tax sounds great until you find out they ream you on everything else, like fees, property taxes, and other stuff. We're back in the Midwest and are actually putting money into savings once again because we don't need to spend every dollar just to survive like we did down there. Don't even get me started on their lack of medical care in FL. If you cannot afford health insurance when you're retired, the doctors won't even see you. The number of "go fund me" requests I saw for medical care was appalling, and it wasn't for fancy surgeries, it was for everyday stuff. My former neighbors (who I adored, by the way) have kept me informed on the big increases in property taxes & homeowners insurance since we left. Beaches are nice, but if the government won't even help the oldest nor the disabled, what's the point of living there? And I'm not even bringing up what DeSantis is doing to that state... It's not only that, but quality of care as well. My GF splits the year between Washington and Florida. She will go to doctors in Florida when she needs to, but if there is anything important that needs to be done, there is not a chance in hell that it will be in Florida if she can get back here instead. That is my experience as well. So many of my patients do not even go to the doctor in Florida. When I get records on those who have gone, I am appalled at what was done. And those who live there full time frequently move back here once they get older and need services move back here because none are provided there. Just another benefit of active paying taxes. But those citizens that love the low taxes don’t care about helping others |
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Post by scgal on Aug 25, 2024 20:02:31 GMT -5
Facts are those state I mentioned have a crazy amount of debt which have absolutely nothing to do with South Carolina. Our quality of life here is great. 27% of the people who moved to SC last year was for retirement and is the 2nd people go to live in retirement (right after Florida). Bitch and complain all you want. Just realize that people are moving to such places because housing is cheap and weather is warmer. Taxes are low not because you are more efficient, but because you do not offer anywhere close to the same number or type of services. South Carolina also ranks near the top in residents' dependence on the federal government. You're welcome. PLEAAASSSEEEE South Carolina gets around 13b federal money compared to California 170b. Blue state are leaches. |
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Again, Trump was convicted of a felony. A crime in the jurisdiction he was in. So, by definition, he is a felon. Doesn’t matter if you agree with the charge. You support a party that believes a felon is qualified to be president of the US. Do you disagree with that statement? And your point is? Yes he was convicted. For about 45% of the country we rather see a convicted felon than Kamala. Shows how little we think of Kamala. You and your parts doesn't like Trump. I'd rather see a different republican candidate but my opinion is this is who we have and he is leaps and bounds better than Kamala. you would have said the same about Biden, or Buttigieg, or anyone else on the (D) ticket. you've already said that you hate anything proposed by a Democrat simply because they are a Democrat. so why TF would we expect anything other than this bold from you and your ilk?  |
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 25, 2024 20:44:00 GMT -5
And your point is? Yes he was convicted. For about 45% of the country we rather see a convicted felon than Kamala. Shows how little we think of Kamala. You and your parts doesn't like Trump. I'd rather see a different republican candidate but my opinion is this is who we have and he is leaps and bounds better than Kamala. you would have said the same about Biden, or Buttigieg, or anyone else on the (D) ticket. you've already said that you hate anything proposed by a Democrat simply because they are a Democrat. so why TF would we expect anything other than this bold from you and your ilk? yeah, we have lost 45% of the electorate, who can no longer distinguish between someone thoroughly corrupt and unqualified and a person who has dedicated their lives to public service. this is this shitty rabbit hole that we have been going down since 1980. it ends up in a dark place, and a dead end. let's hope at some point that the 45% drops to 40% and that the resulting firestorm will create enough ash to grow a new crop of Republicans. |
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