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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Aug 21, 2024 15:48:46 GMT -5
Two votes would not have made a difference in the outcome of the vote. You don’t certify elections if there is evidence of widespread fraud/voter suppression, not for just two dead people voting. If I’m not mistaken, they did find a few fraudulent voters, and almost all of them were republicans. Still didn’t impact who won, in the end. I think they had to recount like four times. It was ridiculous - Trump was using his standard policy of delay, delay, delay, hoping that would give him time to figure out a way to overturn the vote - one person shouldn’t be able to hold up the legal process because he’s pissed. THis will happen again, this year. Any state Trump loses, he’ll want an endless number of recounts while he screams about fake votes. It’s just what he does. It’s actulally simple. I don't care if the fraudulent votes are republican or Democrate if a state has even 1 fraudulent vote the state cannot certify. The reasoning is if there is 1 there can be thousands that they may not even be able to find this will put the pressure on each state to make sure their system is secure. You have absolutely no knowledge about statistics. If 1 fraudulent vote was found in 1 million votes counted, there are not going to be thousands of votes in 330 million votes (assuming the entire population of the US, including children, infants and immigrants voted). You'd find 330 fraudulent votes. Thats not enough to swing any results. Incidentally, all of the fraudulent votes were GOP. |
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 21, 2024 16:25:40 GMT -5
Iowa found eight out of all the voters registered in the state. Only one of those was actual fraud upon investigation and it was a lady so terrified of buses full of illegals coming in that she voted in her county then drove 2 hours to the neighboring county to vote AGAIN
For Trump.
I found it hysterically funny. She was so worried about voter fraud that she committed voter fraud hoping to cancel out the democratic voting fraud. How is that for mental gymnastics?
I can just picture the fit people would have had if our electoral vote for Trump had been held up by one paranoid idiot. Somehow I don't think they would be so in favor of the suggestion with the shoe on their foot.
I did the math on it when it happened and the 8 out of whatever number it was amounted to less than .000003% of the voting block. Shutting things down for an extremely statistically insignificant number is fucking stupid.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 21, 2024 16:42:09 GMT -5
this is why i am suggesting that we wait for this case to be adjudicated. you can't say with any certainty whether Trump was involved or not. neither can i. Exactly, others have him as guilty I have him as innocent until proven guilty. i would side with you, because that is how our justice system is supposed to work. the burden is on the prosecution. |
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this is why i am suggesting that we wait for this case to be adjudicated. you can't say with any certainty whether Trump was involved or not. neither can i. During trump's 'E. Jean Carroll trial held under the NY 's Adult Survivors Act, a jury found trump guilty of sexual abuse. The judge said it was rape. A criminal trial jury found trump guilty of 22 felony charges related to paying off Stormy Daniels. So which is it? Are you not telling the truth in the highlighted part of your quote? Juries found trump guilty in both cases based upon the facts. |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 21, 2024 17:37:40 GMT -5
It’s actulally simple. I don't care if the fraudulent votes are republican or Democrate if a state has even 1 fraudulent vote the state cannot certify. The reasoning is if there is 1 there can be thousands that they may not even be able to find this will put the pressure on each state to make sure their system is secure. You have absolutely no knowledge about statistics. If 1 fraudulent vote was found in 1 million votes counted, there are not going to be thousands of votes in 330 million votes (assuming the entire population of the US, including children, infants and immigrants voted). You'd find 330 fraudulent votes. Thats not enough to swing any results. Incidentally, all of the fraudulent votes were GOP. Math is hard, especially for conservatives, because if done correctly, doesn’t support their case |
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Exactly, others have him as guilty I have him as innocent until proven guilty. During trump's 'E. Jean Carroll trial held under the NY 's Adult Survivors Act, a jury found trump guilty of sexual abuse. The judge said it was rape. A criminal trial jury found trump guilty of 22 felony charges related to paying off Stormy Daniels. So which is it? Are you not telling the truth in the highlighted part of your quote? Juries found trump guilty in both cases based upon the facts. looking at the post she quoted from dj, it says "this case" and htey had been going back and forth about J6.  ask her if she says the same about all the other cases. she doesn't answer me at all, I'm probably blocked.  |
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During trump's 'E. Jean Carroll trial held under the NY 's Adult Survivors Act, a jury found trump guilty of sexual abuse. The judge said it was rape. A criminal trial jury found trump guilty of 22 felony charges related to paying off Stormy Daniels. So which is it? Are you not telling the truth in the highlighted part of your quote? Juries found trump guilty in both cases based upon the facts. looking at the post she quoted from dj, it says "this case" and htey had been going back and forth about J6. ask her if she says the same about all the other cases. she doesn't answer me at all, I'm probably blocked. I smell big time hypocrisy. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 21, 2024 18:23:56 GMT -5
Exactly, others have him as guilty I have him as innocent until proven guilty. During trump's 'E. Jean Carroll trial held under the NY 's Adult Survivors Act, a jury found trump guilty of sexual abuse. The judge said it was rape. A criminal trial jury found trump guilty of 22 felony charges related to paying off Stormy Daniels. So which is it? Are you not telling the truth in the highlighted part of your quote? Juries found trump guilty in both cases based upon the facts. not to pick nits, but we were talking about J6, i think. |
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looking at the post she quoted from dj, it says "this case" and htey had been going back and forth about J6. ask her if she says the same about all the other cases. she doesn't answer me at all, I'm probably blocked. I smell big time hypocrisy. Already has said she does not accept the result because it was a NY “liberal” jury. Yes, big time hypocrite |
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During trump's 'E. Jean Carroll trial held under the NY 's Adult Survivors Act, a jury found trump guilty of sexual abuse. The judge said it was rape. A criminal trial jury found trump guilty of 22 felony charges related to paying off Stormy Daniels. So which is it? Are you not telling the truth in the highlighted part of your quote? Juries found trump guilty in both cases based upon the facts. not to pick nits, but we were talking about J6, i think. My reply is a general reply to her earlier comment here stating: "Exactly, others have him as guilty I have him as innocent until proven guilty.". Scgal always states innocent until guilty. I remember Scgal replying to a post of mine from the other day. I will highlight scgal's hypocrisy below pertaining to her belief everyone is innocent until proven guilty, especially when a jury finds trump guilty: I don't recall Harris being found guilty in a civil trial of sexually abusing women like E. Jean Carroll through the NY state Adult Survivors Act. In fact, the judge in the case called it rape. I also don't recall Harris being found guilty of 22 felonies like trump was for paying of a porn actress to keep quiet about them having sex while trump's wife had just given birth to his son. trump wanted the story not to be leaked to the U.S. voters right before the 2016 election. Are you so morally bankrupt you would vote for trump? Pretty much accurate all the indictments and stuff was all politically motivated paying for a prostitute eh who cares. Jean Carroll is a lying turd I believe Trump. So as far as i'm concerned he is leaps and bounds ahead of any democrat especially a nothing like Kamala. |
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not to pick nits, but we were talking about J6, i think. My reply is a general reply to her earlier comment here stating: "Exactly, others have him as guilty I have him as innocent until proven guilty.". Scgal always states innocent until guilty. I remember Scgal replying to a post of mine from the other day. I will highlight scgal's hypocrisy below pertaining to her belief everyone is innocent until proven guilty, especially when a jury finds trump guilty: Pretty much accurate all the indictments and stuff was all politically motivated paying for a prostitute eh who cares. Jean Carroll is a lying turd I believe Trump. So as far as i'm concerned he is leaps and bounds ahead of any democrat especially a nothing like Kamala. And here I thought all the indictments were due to Trump’s various crime sprees. Especially the documents after he signed the law making that behavior a felony. I guess scgal is not much of a supporter of law and order. |
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Iowa found eight out of all the voters registered in the state. Only one of those was actual fraud upon investigation and it was a lady so terrified of buses full of illegals coming in that she voted in her county then drove 2 hours to the neighboring county to vote AGAIN For Trump. I found it hysterically funny. She was so worried about voter fraud that she committed voter fraud hoping to cancel out the democratic voting fraud. How is that for mental gymnastics? I can just picture the fit people would have had if our electoral vote for Trump had been held up by one paranoid idiot. Somehow I don't think they would be so in favor of the suggestion with the shoe on their foot. I did the math on it when it happened and the 8 out of whatever number it was amounted to less than .000003% of the voting block. Shutting things down for an extremely statistically insignificant number is fucking stupid.I have been musing over the fact that we really have had through the years some confused, misinformed, twisted, moronic, and downright stupid posters. I'll defer to your description though. It seems particularly apt nowadays. |
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Post by Opti on Aug 22, 2024 1:00:49 GMT -5
I smell big time hypocrisy. Already has said she does not accept the result because it was a NY “liberal” jury. Yes, big time hypocrite I think its because she has a whole bag have false beliefs that includes any liberal area is so filled with liberals there are very few conservatives. That's BS. There are some serious conservative organizations founded in NYC which are still quite active. NYC is not so blue that Trump's lawyer had to accept only "liberal" jurors.  scgal does not understand juries and is so brainwashed by whatever she watches and who she listens to, that she does not want to acknowledge the "lying turd" was the defendant, not E Jean Carroll. Its interesting and sad because she is not the only woman who defends rapists and someone who exploits women. I always wonder what kind of childhood these people have had. Were they sexually assaulted very young and told to keep quiet? Were they told their family would be killed if they said something? Does she doubt E Jean Carroll simply because Trump did not murder any of her loved ones as payback for speaking out? IDK but I feel the many possible answers are scary and sad. |
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During trump's 'E. Jean Carroll trial held under the NY 's Adult Survivors Act, a jury found trump guilty of sexual abuse. The judge said it was rape. A criminal trial jury found trump guilty of 22 felony charges related to paying off Stormy Daniels. So which is it? Are you not telling the truth in the highlighted part of your quote? Juries found trump guilty in both cases based upon the facts. not to pick nits, but we were talking about J6, i think. You have been, but I think Tenn has a valid point. She believes Trump's stories that he was framed at both trials he recently lost, E Jean Carroll and I think the property tax and tax evasion one in NY state. So while she says she accepts what a jury says, we have at least two data points demonstrating the exact opposite. |
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Post by Opti on Aug 22, 2024 7:08:29 GMT -5
Slightly OT for the current topic, but this one of the false smears the Trump campaign is using. I'm sure it works on the MAGAs, but its incorrect and a weak attempt to link Harris to the old USSR while Trump remains in Putin's pocket. MO. Curious how others see it.  |
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Margaret And HelenTrump’s greatest accomplishment was getting everyone to talk about his small dick.
Margaret, I have loved every minute of the DNC. You really need to find your glasses and turn on the boob tube, Honey. Such joy. Such diversity. Such excitement and hope. Considering the hell we’ve all been through since Donald Trump screwed up the nation, it’s truly a miracle. If Kamala can do this as a candidate. Imagine what she can do as President. All of you Republicans out there. I just have to ask you. Aren’t you tired? The hate and negativity of Trump has to be exhausting. It all started with Rubio and Cruz talking about Trump’s small hands and eventually it got to weird shaped mushroom descriptions. I wonder which GOP Congressman will be the first to claim they know what it really looks like. Boebert? Greene? Gaetz? The porn star told us and that was more than enough information for me. Fox News says Obama’s joke was a low point in presidential politics, conveniently ignoring that Trump goes lower daily. The difference being Obama was actually funny… and maybe a little bit too on the mark. But I ask you, GOP. Haven’t you had enough of Trump? Everything that man touches turns to trash. I mean stop digging. You’ve reached bottom with that guy many times over. Don’t get me wrong. There are some real douche bags on the progressive side too. But we aren’t electing them for President. They’re harmless. We’re just laughing at the ugly Tesla truck they’re driving. But your guys, the GOP douche bags… now those guys are the real deal. They are passing laws about who is standing and who is sitting to pee. Honestly, it’s really creepy that your political leaders are spending this much time imagining how people are peeing. And now they are literally making women flee their states because the unthinkable has happened during an otherwise very wanted pregnancy or worse still, during a pregnancy caused by incest. Since the day that orange twat came down his golden escalator, your party has gone to hell. Rest of article here: Trump’s greatest accomplishment was getting everyone to talk about his small dick.
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Of course they aren't tired of it. Look at what they accomplished while he was running around being himself. They stocked the Supreme Court we probably won't have a liberal one again in my lifetime. They finally succeeded in getting Roe vs Wade repealed.
They've made a mockery of so many departments that they got enough people questioning things that people are starting to agree with ideas like maybe we should get rid of the EPA. Maybe we should gut public education and make it all "parents' choice".
The guy is the walking epitome of "bread and circuses". Why would they want to give that up?
That is why to me his so dangerous. He's Jar Jar to the Republican Party's Palpatine. By himself he looks like and sounds like a buffoon. But if you have the right person pulling the buffoon's strings it can be bad REALLY bad.
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Of course they aren't tired of it. Look at what they accomplished while he was running around being himself. They stocked the Supreme Court we probably won't have a liberal one again in my lifetime. They finally succeeded in getting Roe vs Wade repealed. They've made a mockery of so many departments that they got enough people questioning things that people are starting to agree with ideas like maybe we should get rid of the EPA. Maybe we should gut public education and make it all "parents' choice".The guy is the walking epitome of "bread and circuses". Why would they want to give that up? That is why to me his so dangerous. He's Jar Jar to the Republican Party's Palpatine. By himself he looks like and sounds like a buffoon. But if you have the right person pulling the buffoon's strings it can be bad REALLY bad. I heard this in passing last week and just checked. he's already on it - Trump push to dismantle Education Department met with enthusiasm in House GOP |
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Getting rid of public schools has been on the republican agenda for awhile.
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Of course they aren't tired of it. Look at what they accomplished while he was running around being himself. They stocked the Supreme Court we probably won't have a liberal one again in my lifetime. They finally succeeded in getting Roe vs Wade repealed. They've made a mockery of so many departments that they got enough people questioning things that people are starting to agree with ideas like maybe we should get rid of the EPA. Maybe we should gut public education and make it all "parents' choice".The guy is the walking epitome of "bread and circuses". Why would they want to give that up? That is why to me his so dangerous. He's Jar Jar to the Republican Party's Palpatine. By himself he looks like and sounds like a buffoon. But if you have the right person pulling the buffoon's strings it can be bad REALLY bad. I heard this in passing last week and just checked. he's already on it - Trump push to dismantle Education Department met with enthusiasm in House GOPLike before his goal was all for profit schools like charter and private schools. He's been wealthy all his life and has no idea of costs so he only cares about profit for his rich buddies and not for all the US children that could be left behind. Its already too hard for many depending on where they live. It needs to be made better not less affordable. |
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 22, 2024 11:50:22 GMT -5
I pay taxes to educate my youthful fellow citizens in public schools under public control. I am not really interested in paying taxes to educate other people's children in private schools of their choice under their control.
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Getting rid of public schools has been on the republican agenda for awhile. What do the plan to take it’s place? Handing out vouchers for private schools? Who would audit the private schools to ensure the kids are getting an adequate education? We’ve seen the shambles of privatizing prisons. Five kids squeezed into trailers watching videos from the 50’s, with nothing but the Bible to learn to read from. Cheese sandwiches for lunch. The city where I work has a big percentage of kids who go to private schools (a residual of the push to keep the white kids separate from the black ones). As a result, our public schools are fairly crappy, except in a few of the wealthier suburbs. No one with any political clout cares what happens to the poorer kids - in fact, we have a tourism economy, and one of the higher up politicians accidentally spoke the truth when he said we needed to have kids to work in the service industries, so it didn’t really matter that some of the public schools are so bad. If the GOP kills the Dept of Education, this is what would happen nationally. |
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It’s actulally simple. I don't care if the fraudulent votes are republican or Democrate if a state has even 1 fraudulent vote the state cannot certify. The reasoning is if there is 1 there can be thousands that they may not even be able to find this will put the pressure on each state to make sure their system is secure. You have absolutely no knowledge about statistics. If 1 fraudulent vote was found in 1 million votes counted, there are not going to be thousands of votes in 330 million votes (assuming the entire population of the US, including children, infants and immigrants voted). You'd find 330 fraudulent votes. Thats not enough to swing any results. Incidentally, all of the fraudulent votes were GOP. Only ~165M voted- so even if there 10x the “one fraudulent vote” it would still only be 1,650 and the election would still be accurate. |
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Getting rid of public schools has been on the republican agenda for awhile. What do the plan to take it’s place? Handing out vouchers for private schools? Who would audit the private schools to ensure the kids are getting an adequate education? We’ve seen the shambles of privatizing prisons. Five kids squeezed into trailers watching videos from the 50’s, with nothing but the Bible to learn to read from. Cheese sandwiches for lunch. The city where I work has a big percentage of kids who go to private schools (a residual of the push to keep the white kids separate from the black ones). As a result, our public schools are fairly crappy, except in a few of the wealthier suburbs. No one with any political clout cares what happens to the poorer kids - in fact, we have a tourism economy, and one of the higher up politicians accidentally spoke the truth when he said we needed to have kids to work in the service industries, so it didn’t really matter that some of the public schools are so bad. If the GOP kills the Dept of Education, this is what would happen nationally. i think it is important to consider the goal, here. think about it for a while, and get back to me with where your thoughts take you. |
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You have absolutely no knowledge about statistics. If 1 fraudulent vote was found in 1 million votes counted, there are not going to be thousands of votes in 330 million votes (assuming the entire population of the US, including children, infants and immigrants voted). You'd find 330 fraudulent votes. Thats not enough to swing any results. Incidentally, all of the fraudulent votes were GOP. Only ~165M voted- so even if there 10x the “one fraudulent vote” it would still only be 1,650 and the election would still be accurate. not just accurate. water tight. there were only a handful of elections decided by less than that, and they were all small local ones. like Boebert. |
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Two votes would not have made a difference in the outcome of the vote. You don’t certify elections if there is evidence of widespread fraud/voter suppression, not for just two dead people voting. If I’m not mistaken, they did find a few fraudulent voters, and almost all of them were republicans. Still didn’t impact who won, in the end. I think they had to recount like four times. It was ridiculous - Trump was using his standard policy of delay, delay, delay, hoping that would give him time to figure out a way to overturn the vote - one person shouldn’t be able to hold up the legal process because he’s pissed. THis will happen again, this year. Any state Trump loses, he’ll want an endless number of recounts while he screams about fake votes. It’s just what he does. Its actulally simple. I don't care if the fraudulent votes are republican or Democrate if a state has even 1 fraudulent vote the state cannot certify. The reasoning is if there is 1 there can be thousands that they may not even be able to find this will put the pressure on each state to make sure their system is secure. You realize that even if zero fraudulent votes are found, there can be thousands they might not even be able to find. Actually it is a good sign when states have in place procedures which allow them to find the rare fraudulent vote. |
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Its actulally simple. I don't care if the fraudulent votes are republican or Democrate if a state has even 1 fraudulent vote the state cannot certify. The reasoning is if there is 1 there can be thousands that they may not even be able to find this will put the pressure on each state to make sure their system is secure. You realize that even if zero fraudulent votes are found, there can be thousands they might not even be able to find. Actually it is a good sign when states have in place procedures which allow them to find the rare fraudulent vote. EDIT: In the real world, how are dead voters identified? When a death certificate is filed, a copy is made available to the keeper of the election rolls, (who in my very small county, based on her personal report also monitors news sources), to cancel the voter registration. If it so happens it is in the middle of an election, the record is flagged so if a ballot was returned prior to death, it can be pulled before it is counted. If it has already been processed, there is nothing that can be done, aka 1 fraudulent vote. |
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What do the plan to take it’s place? Handing out vouchers for private schools? Who would audit the private schools to ensure the kids are getting an adequate education? We’ve seen the shambles of privatizing prisons. Five kids squeezed into trailers watching videos from the 50’s, with nothing but the Bible to learn to read from. Cheese sandwiches for lunch. The city where I work has a big percentage of kids who go to private schools (a residual of the push to keep the white kids separate from the black ones). As a result, our public schools are fairly crappy, except in a few of the wealthier suburbs. No one with any political clout cares what happens to the poorer kids - in fact, we have a tourism economy, and one of the higher up politicians accidentally spoke the truth when he said we needed to have kids to work in the service industries, so it didn’t really matter that some of the public schools are so bad. If the GOP kills the Dept of Education, this is what would happen nationally. i think it is important to consider the goal, here. think about it for a while, and get back to me with where your thoughts take you. 1. An uneducated people to exploit for monetary or political gain 2. Funneling money into churches 3. Making church schools the best solution so preaching the gospel to them all day every day increases the number of Christians 4. Easily distribute resources unevenly so white kids get better education, continuing the power imbalance |
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i think it is important to consider the goal, here. think about it for a while, and get back to me with where your thoughts take you. 1. An uneducated people to exploit for monetary or political gain 2. Funneling money into churches 3. Making church schools the best solution so preaching the gospel to them all day every day increases the number of Christians 4. Easily distribute resources unevenly so white kids get better education, continuing the power imbalance Ding ding. It's a way to get around Plessy vs Ferguson. Our governor went so far as now your property tax dollars can be refunded to you to be used for private Christian school education. Since our state government is stocked with mostly Republicans they are all for it. The whopping 2 Democrats are against it because it is not only a clear violation of separation of church and state it's creating a new Jim Crow system. I wish I could understand what happened to our state. It used to be purple edging towards blue. Our electoral vote went to Obama both times. We had one of the top educational systems in the nation. We were the third state to pass a law making gay marriage legal. Now we're here. Fuck even NEBRASKA is now more "liberal" than us. The governor tried to refuse the SNAP expansion funding and received so much backlash from voters that he changed his mind. Reynolds is sticking to her guns insisting it will only enable poor people to buy steak, lobster and potato chips so she's going to make her own shit ass program instead that relies heavily on Christian based charities to provide food.  |
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