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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 8, 2024 15:46:15 GMT -5
RE: 200 metre final Until you're not the fastest ...... and someone beats you (from a little landlocked African country) Then you have to eat a whole load of humble pie. Diagnosed with Covid two days ago. Ran anyway. Idiot. Way to infect his competitors, and all the workers there
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Post by tallguy on Aug 8, 2024 15:57:05 GMT -5
Diagnosed with Covid two days ago. Ran anyway. Idiot. Way to infect his competitors, and all the workers there He was under the supervision of the medical staff, so I'm assuming precautions were taken. They left it up to him whether to compete.
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Post by Opti on Aug 8, 2024 16:04:42 GMT -5
Idiot. Way to infect his competitors, and all the workers there He was under the supervision of the medical staff, so I'm assuming precautions were taken. They left it up to him whether to compete. His race times are 10 seconds long roughly. Athletes are coming down with Covid because of the Olympic Village and it is that time of year. I have no idea how much or not he separated himself from others. He may have caught it from another runner and just tested positive that day. I don't know. I will wait for further info as this is not a race where he would be in the company of others for 10 to 15 minutes at a time. Or in other words, he wasn't competing in a marathon or long cycling race where exposure would be a given versus a possible glancing blow like we all probably go through since its summer the perennial time that Covid cases increase.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 8, 2024 16:06:26 GMT -5
Idiot. Way to infect his competitors, and all the workers there He was under the supervision of the medical staff, so I'm assuming precautions were taken. They left it up to him whether to compete. He collapsed into a wheelchair after the race. No matter what they said, if he was diagnosed 2 days ago, I suspect he was symptomatic at the time he was diagnosed, and he was racing in the heats while contagious this week. Did you see him wearing a mask? Did he appear to be quarantining himself? If I tested positive, I have to stay home. No sure what guidelines they were following.
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Post by chiver78 on Aug 8, 2024 16:15:44 GMT -5
He was under the supervision of the medical staff, so I'm assuming precautions were taken. They left it up to him whether to compete. He collapsed into a wheelchair after the race. No matter what they said, if he was diagnosed 2 days ago, I suspect he was symptomatic at the time he was diagnosed, and he was racing in the heats while contagious this week. Did you see him wearing a mask? Did he appear to be quarantining himself? If I tested positive, I have to stay home. No sure what guidelines they were following. yes, he was wearing a mask after the grand entrance show for the favorites. he did not while running, and I left right after the race.
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Post by tallguy on Aug 8, 2024 16:16:53 GMT -5
He was under the supervision of the medical staff, so I'm assuming precautions were taken. They left it up to him whether to compete. He collapsed into a wheelchair after the race. No matter what they said, if he was diagnosed 2 days ago, I suspect he was symptomatic at the time he was diagnosed, and he was racing in the heats while contagious this week. Did you see him wearing a mask? Did he appear to be quarantining himself? If I tested positive, I have to stay home. No sure what guidelines they were following. He was quarantining, as far as having moved to and sleeping in a separate hotel room away from other athletes. Several other athletes had also tested positive and competed during the Olympics, including several members of Australia's women's water polo team and a swimmer from Great Britain. The IOC is treating Covid just like any other respiratory illness and leaving it up to the athlete whether they wish to compete.
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Post by Opti on Aug 8, 2024 16:18:42 GMT -5
He collapsed into a wheelchair after the race. No matter what they said, if he was diagnosed 2 days ago, I suspect he was symptomatic at the time he was diagnosed, and he was racing in the heats while contagious this week. Did you see him wearing a mask? Did he appear to be quarantining himself? If I tested positive, I have to stay home. No sure what guidelines they were following. He was quarantining, as far as having moved to and sleeping in a separate hotel room away from other athletes. Several other athletes had also tested positive and competed during the Olympics, including several members of Australia's women's water polo team and a swimmer from Great Britain. The IOC is treating Covid just like any other respiratory illness and leaving it up to the athlete whether they wish to compete. I think that's because we are now treating Covid as if its endemic like the flu, RSV, etc. versus a life-threatening illness. Correct?
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Post by Opti on Aug 8, 2024 16:21:16 GMT -5
He was under the supervision of the medical staff, so I'm assuming precautions were taken. They left it up to him whether to compete. He collapsed into a wheelchair after the race. No matter what they said, if he was diagnosed 2 days ago, I suspect he was symptomatic at the time he was diagnosed, and he was racing in the heats while contagious this week. Did you see him wearing a mask? Did he appear to be quarantining himself? If I tested positive, I have to stay home. No sure what guidelines they were following. Athletes who don't have Covid have collapsed at the end of a race like that too. That's a pull out all the stops I'm at the Olympics kind of race.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 8, 2024 16:44:03 GMT -5
if we can just manage to vote for someone who is not a fascist, now, we might continue to have something to be proud of. Do you even realize that all athletes have practiced and sacrificed most of their entire life to get to the top of their game and all you have to contribute is a vote to your liking so you may be proud of their accomplishments. Pretty pathetic on your part for all athletes, sacrifices, their family and loved ones. I for one is proud of their accomplishments regardless of politics. my post had nothing to do with the Olympics, bro. if you CAREFULLY read what i said, i said that i was proud of our olympians. suggestion to everyone: life is short. stop looking for things to get upset about. edit: having said that, i evidently stumbled into a place where people were going to get away from politics. i apologize.
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 8, 2024 18:33:24 GMT -5
Can you imagine training all your life and getting to the Olympics and getting Covid (or the flu, or whatever) 2 days before your competition?
He should have isolated right away - but I would think with Olympic village and all the other ways this works - most of the athletes have been exposed to Covid.
This is bad for everyone.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Aug 9, 2024 3:24:38 GMT -5
I think not only is Noah Lyles a braggard' He has gracelessly stolen Letsile Tobogo's thunder..... by making it all about himself. "of courses he would have won if he didn't have covid.... and wasn't he brave to compete with adversity" He even had to be carted off in a wheelchair like some type of thwarted hero. pfffttt. There is a problem when you believe your own hype ...... someone is better, someone is always better.
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Post by Opti on Aug 9, 2024 6:47:23 GMT -5
I think not only is Noah Lyles a braggard' He has gracelessly stolen Letsile Tobogo's thunder..... by making it all about himself. "of courses he would have won if he didn't have covid.... and wasn't he brave to compete with adversity" He even had to be carted off in a wheelchair like some type of thwarted hero. pfffttt. There is a problem when you believe your own hype ...... someone is better, someone is always better. Or this is how your media is selling it. I discovered Botswana is part of the Commonwealth.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Aug 9, 2024 7:17:25 GMT -5
then you are putting 2 and 2 together ....and getting 5
There are lots of countries in the Commonwealth ..... they are mostly self governing as is Botswana, and not protectorates.
We are talking about the attitude of some of the competitors.
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Post by Opti on Aug 9, 2024 7:34:35 GMT -5
then you are putting 2 and 2 together ....and getting 5 There are lots of countries in the Commonwealth ..... they are mostly self governing as is Botswana, and not protectorates. We are talking about the attitude of some of the competitors. I am addressing your comment that the winner of the 200m can even have his thunder stolen. I think it is BS, and both were at the table speaking to reporters. I could probably write the articles that are in the papers right now and it would be hard to tell it wasn't UK print media or Piers Morgan. Spell, as other posters have noted, that attitude has always been prevalent in the sport and was super evident in some former competitors. Remember the sprinter Oscar Pistorius from South Africa? 2012 Olympian
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 9, 2024 7:56:54 GMT -5
I think not only is Noah Lyles a braggard' He has gracelessly stolen Letsile Tobogo's thunder..... by making it all about himself. "of courses he would have won if he didn't have covid.... and wasn't he brave to compete with adversity" He even had to be carted off in a wheelchair like some type of thwarted hero. pfffttt. There is a problem when you believe your own hype ...... someone is better, someone is always better. "I believe this will be the end of my 2024 Olympics. It is not the Olympic I dreamed of but it has left me with so much Joy in my heart," Lyles wrote in an Instagram post. "I hope everyone enjoyed the show. Whether you were rooting for me or against me, you have to admit you watched, didn’t you? See you next time." Noah Lyles says his Olympics are likely over after racing with COVID: ‘Never been prouder of myself’
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Post by Spellbound454 on Aug 9, 2024 8:46:29 GMT -5
No it isn't, I have seen loads of sport these last couple of weeks...... and all I've seen is sportsmanship
There has been great champions in Paris with loads of medals.
Nobody goes around saying " I hope you enjoyed the show"
Its not normal.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 9, 2024 9:20:58 GMT -5
No it isn't, I have seen loads of sport these last couple of weeks...... and all I've seen is sportsmanship There has been great champions in Paris with loads of medals. Nobody goes around saying " I hope you enjoyed the show" Its not normal. Nor is your over blown continued reaction to Lyles.
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Post by Opti on Aug 9, 2024 12:06:23 GMT -5
www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/us-rugby-player-ari-ramsey-170127928.htmlUS Rugby Player Ari Ramsey Is "Amazed" By Free Healthcare at the 2024 Olympics Brittney McNamara Updated Fri, August 9, 2024 at 8:13 AM EDT·2 min read Ari Ramsey went to the 2024 Olympics to play Rugby, but she's leaving with a new passion: free healthcare. The athlete has been hanging out in the Olympic Village since her bronze medal-winning match on July 30, and while she's enjoying watching other sports, she's also fitting in a year's worth of medical checkups thanks to the Village's free healthcare. Would it surprise you to know Ramsey plays for Team USA?
Ramsey is documenting her Olympic and healthcare journey on TikTok, and she's been amazed at the free healthcare offered in the Olympic Village — something athletes have had access to during the Games since 1932. It all started six days ago, when Ramsey posted a video on TikTok saying she'd just gotten a Pap smear in Paris.
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Post by Opti on Aug 9, 2024 12:07:01 GMT -5
www.si.com/olympics/american-athletes-taking-full-advantage-of-free-healthcare-olympic-village-france#:~:text=In%20fact%2C%20the%20Olympic%20Village,the%201932%20Los%20Angeles%20Games. A 2022 study by The Commonwealth Fund found that the U.S. is the only high-income country without universal healthcare. Many American athletes do have access to the United States Olympic and Paralympic Committee’s health insurance policy. But their eligibility for the program is up to their sport’s governing body, and an independent commission appointed by Congress found that “some of the most talented competitors under our flag go to sleep at night under the roof of a car or without sufficient food or adequate health insurance.” More than a quarter of U.S. athletes report earning less than $15,000 per year, and more than 40% said they paid out of pocket for healthcare, with an average cost of $9,200 per person. Only 16% said they’d been reimbursed.
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Post by Opti on Aug 9, 2024 12:08:42 GMT -5
No it isn't, I have seen loads of sport these last couple of weeks...... and all I've seen is sportsmanship There has been great champions in Paris with loads of medals. Nobody goes around saying " I hope you enjoyed the show" Its not normal. Are you deliberately trying to be obtuse? Sprinting, the sport only short distance runners do
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 9, 2024 19:03:15 GMT -5
I think not only is Noah Lyles a braggard' He has gracelessly stolen Letsile Tobogo's thunder..... by making it all about himself. "of courses he would have won if he didn't have covid.... and wasn't he brave to compete with adversity" He even had to be carted off in a wheelchair like some type of thwarted hero. pfffttt. There is a problem when you believe your own hype ...... someone is better, someone is always better. "I believe this will be the end of my 2024 Olympics. It is not the Olympic I dreamed of but it has left me with so much Joy in my heart," Lyles wrote in an Instagram post. "I hope everyone enjoyed the show. Whether you were rooting for me or against me, you have to admit you watched, didn’t you? See you next time." Noah Lyles says his Olympics are likely over after racing with COVID: ‘Never been prouder of myself’I didn’t watch him. I didn’t root for or against him and I didn’t enjoy the show. He seems like a real ass.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 9, 2024 19:12:46 GMT -5
I didn’t watch him. I didn’t root for or against him and I didn’t enjoy the show. He seems like a real ass. Trumpian in his boastings for sure. Then he met Miss Karma.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Aug 10, 2024 12:08:15 GMT -5
He was under the supervision of the medical staff, so I'm assuming precautions were taken. They left it up to him whether to compete. He collapsed into a wheelchair after the race. No matter what they said, if he was diagnosed 2 days ago, I suspect he was symptomatic at the time he was diagnosed, and he was racing in the heats while contagious this week. Did you see him wearing a mask? Did he appear to be quarantining himself? If I tested positive, I have to stay home. No sure what guidelines they were following. In an interview leading up to his race, there was a mention of Lyles being a childhood asthmatic. PMD, not sure if you can address this, but I am wondering if this could still be an issue for him, and the combo of COVID plus training, travel, media pressure, prior racing in the 100, time change, etc. finally just did him in. Not that a bronze medal is to be dismissed. It's still a heckuva great achievement. But I do wonder if Lyles, being a marquee name and one that helped sell tickets and fill the stadium, was allowed or pushed to compete under the circumstances, whereas someone else would have been removed. Realistically, the shot putters and pole vaulters are not the big draw. Which is a shame. But speed sells seats.
And while I understand COVID is more normalized and likely never going away completely, it is still risky for some groups. He was seen wearing a mask 48 hours before the 200, but he was diagnosed at that point. We don't know exactly whether is was symptomatic at that point or earlier.
As a long-term decision, I don't think it was the best choice for him to race. The Olympics is not his only competition. He races on the international circuit and that is where he makes his money. If he's not there, his sponsors won't be, either.
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Post by chiver78 on Aug 10, 2024 14:08:03 GMT -5
without spoiling, find a replay of the men's 4x400m relay that just finished. phenomenal race, congrats to the gold/silver winning teams for a fantastic race! there wasn't anyone else close at the end.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 10, 2024 14:11:48 GMT -5
without spoiling, find a replay of the men's 4x400m relay that just finished. phenomenal race, congrats to the gold/silver winning teams for a fantastic race! there wasn't anyone else close at the end. Watched it and I was cheering as if I was in attendance.
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Post by chiver78 on Aug 10, 2024 14:15:01 GMT -5
both my dogs are snoring, I didn't want to wake them up.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 10, 2024 14:25:57 GMT -5
both my dogs are snoring, I didn't want to wake them up. My cats are not track fans. They left the room. And the U.S. women just one the 4x100 relay. That was the last of the track events (not sure about field events) for this olympics. The U.S. women and men did us proud.
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Post by NastyWoman on Aug 10, 2024 14:42:55 GMT -5
if we can just manage to vote for someone who is not a fascist, now, we might continue to have something to be proud of. Do you even realize that all athletes have practiced and sacrificed most of their entire life to get to the top of their game and all you have to contribute is a vote to your liking so you may be proud of their accomplishments. Pretty pathetic on your part for all athletes, sacrifices, their family and loved ones. I for one is proud of their accomplishments regardless of politics. I am happy for their accomplishments and I don't for one second doubt they have all worked extremely hard to get where they are. They have worked hard and they have the right to be proud of their accomplishment but I sure do hope they realize there is far more to life than this point in time however wonderful it is. As for the rest of us, we did nothing to earn this victory so I agree with dj and say we better follow the athletes' example and do something we can take pride in.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 10, 2024 15:45:51 GMT -5
He collapsed into a wheelchair after the race. No matter what they said, if he was diagnosed 2 days ago, I suspect he was symptomatic at the time he was diagnosed, and he was racing in the heats while contagious this week. Did you see him wearing a mask? Did he appear to be quarantining himself? If I tested positive, I have to stay home. No sure what guidelines they were following. In an interview leading up to his race, there was a mention of Lyles being a childhood asthmatic. PMD, not sure if you can address this, but I am wondering if this could still be an issue for him, and the combo of COVID plus training, travel, media pressure, prior racing in the 100, time change, etc. finally just did him in. Not that a bronze medal is to be dismissed. It's still a heckuva great achievement. But I do wonder if Lyles, being a marquee name and one that helped sell tickets and fill the stadium, was allowed or pushed to compete under the circumstances, whereas someone else would have been removed. Realistically, the shot putters and pole vaulters are not the big draw. Which is a shame. But speed sells seats.
And while I understand COVID is more normalized and likely never going away completely, it is still risky for some groups. He was seen wearing a mask 48 hours before the 200, but he was diagnosed at that point. We don't know exactly whether is was symptomatic at that point or earlier.
As a long-term decision, I don't think it was the best choice for him to race. The Olympics is not his only competition. He races on the international circuit and that is where he makes his money. If he's not there, his sponsors won't be, either.
Asthma can go into remission, but frequently recurs, especially with acute URIs. It is entirely possible that his performance was negatively impacted by an exacerbation of his asthma due to Covid. As to his being contagious, we have been telling people who are sick to stay home and not go to work. This is his job
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 10, 2024 17:03:22 GMT -5
both my dogs are snoring, I didn't want to wake them up. Chiver (or anyone else): what are in the foot long or so thin boxes handed out to medal winners during the medal ceremonies?
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