Taylor Swift conspiracy theories engulf conservative social

[thyme4change]

I know this stuff is going around - but I wonder who really, actually believes this crap. It probably is an insignificant number of people and it is being used as clickbait and making it bigger than it needs to be. I bet many people didn’t talk about Taylor Swift at all, until they were told to pick a side, and now they kinda have to hate her and talk shit about her because that is what their people are doing.

[Tennesseer]

[djAdvocate]

that looks like a commercial airline.

the belching is spread over 300 people.

unlike Trump's stench.

[tractor]

I had one friend complaining that he didn't think celebrities should express their political views (so he's anti-Taylor)..isn't that what Trump does? Idiot...

[billisonboard]

Feb 3, 2024 10:29:31 GMT -5 tractor said:

I had one friend complaining that he didn't think celebrities should express their political views (so he's anti-Taylor)..isn't that what Trump does? Idiot...

They, like the rest of us, have the freedom to express opinions. I just don't understand why anyone gives those opinions any significant consideration. "I like her singing (or his acting) so I am going to vote for who she/he endorses." Really?

[andi9899]

Feb 3, 2024 10:29:31 GMT -5 tractor said:

I had one friend complaining that he didn't think celebrities should express their political views (so he's anti-Taylor)..isn't that what Trump does? Idiot...

Then Ted Nugent, Kanye, Aaron Rogers, and Kid Rock can't talk anymore.

[dondubble]

Jon Voight and James Woods.

[Tennesseer]

Feb 3, 2024 12:09:34 GMT -5 dondubble said:

Jon Voight and James Woods.

You forgot Scott Baio.

[minnesotapaintlady]

Feb 3, 2024 10:29:31 GMT -5 tractor said:

I had one friend complaining that he didn't think celebrities should express their political views (so he's anti-Taylor)..isn't that what Trump does? Idiot...

There was panic all over the Facebooks that Taylor was going to use the Championship game to endorse Biden.  Yeah, she's just going to grab the mic after the game and start spouting off about politics.  Or maybe they thought she would show up wearing a Biden sweatshirt instead of a Chiefs one.  

Meanwhile anyone wearing a MAGA hat would have been fine.

[djAdvocate]

Feb 3, 2024 10:29:31 GMT -5 tractor said:

I had one friend complaining that he didn't think celebrities should express their political views (so he's anti-Taylor)..isn't that what Trump does? Idiot...

tell your friend, coming from a performer, that we are not dancing monkeys for their entertainment.  we are human beings.  we have feelings, aspirations, etc.  we make mistakes, we hurt ourselves and others, and we have struggles with mortality, addiction, etc.  and most of us use our art to CONNECT with people.  how do we connect if we are not the least bit honest with you?  we have the RIGHT in this country to talk about that, and we will assert it until someone like Trump takes it away. 

and i say RIGHT as a minimum.  if ANYONE doesn't like that, you can vote with your wallet.  that's FINE BY US.  we don't need you, or want you, if you can't have a mind at least open enough to ACCEPT that we might differ with you.  you don't have to love it.  we don't expect that.  in fact, you might hate it.  but you won't bully us with your money.  we would rather STARVE than lose that right.  well, most of us, anyway.  many of us do.  but there is no price tag for our feelings.  it is the Devil's bargain.

i would argue that popular artists have a RESPONSIBILITY to speak their minds.  because we can influence people, and change the course of history.  but if a celebrity wants to yield that responsibility, that is up to them.  they don't have to accept it.  but it is there for them, if they want to embrace it.  so, congrats, Taylor, for that.

if this sounds like a "fuck you", it is.

PS- this is not the first time i have heard this argument.  i bet you can tell.

[djAdvocate]

Feb 3, 2024 12:44:56 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Feb 3, 2024 12:09:34 GMT -5 dondubble said:

Jon Voight and James Woods.

You forgot Scott Baio.

Charleton Heston.  Ronald Reagan.  there is a long list of entertainers that are right wing.

that is because they are PEOPLE, not monkeys.  ibid

[laterbloomer]

Feb 3, 2024 10:29:31 GMT -5 tractor said:

I had one friend complaining that he didn't think celebrities should express their political views (so he's anti-Taylor)..isn't that what Trump does? Idiot...

Do you know how many people listen to every word that woman says? Would like to compare that to how many people listen to Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama. I think it is her civic duty to get her fans informed and out to vote. I see why Dads, Chad's and Brad's want her to shut up. As a Liberal woman I'm begging her to talk about politics. Do you think we could get her to write a song about it?

[djAdvocate]

Feb 3, 2024 18:06:26 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

Feb 3, 2024 10:29:31 GMT -5 tractor said:

I had one friend complaining that he didn't think celebrities should express their political views (so he's anti-Taylor)..isn't that what Trump does? Idiot...

Do you know how many people listen to every word that woman says? Would like to compare that to how many people listen to Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama. I think it is her civic duty to get her fans informed and out to vote. I see why Dads, Chad's and Brad's want her to shut up. As a Liberal woman I'm begging her to talk about politics. Do you think we could get her to write a song about it?

i think it would be a complete abdication of her moral obligation to yield that right.  and don't get me wrong.  99% of the performers WE HEAR ABOUT DO abdicate it- because they are being told to do so by money managers, who are in it for a paycheck, and trying to maximize return for not just the artist, but themselves.

this is why it takes a PARTICULARLY good person to become a Willie Nelson or a Randy Newman or a Taylor Swift or a Paul Robeson or a Louis Armstrong.  they refuse the Devil's bargain.  or they simply have nothing to say, which is fine (but not for me).

[Spellbound454]

I dont think that actors and singers should use their platform to delve in to politics.

Who the heck do they think they are?

Taylor is pretty, she has a nice voice and makes good pop songs (which youngsters like)....... and thats the extent of her, fairly considerable, talent.
Her boyfriend is a sportsman, so what?

Actors make a living pretending to be someone else ............. That doesn't give then any credibility as a statesman.

No-one cares about the Oscars any more ... because its not about films..... There are too many people attention seeking ...and boring the audience to death with their proselytism



As for politics, I'm impressed by people who are experts in their field... or more intelligent than I am

A bunch of light entertainers are neither of those things.

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

Feb 4, 2024 4:05:35 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

I dont think that actors and singers should use their platform to delve in to politics.

Why not? They may be just as passionate about politics as you or I. If nothing else, they can get others to be passionate about politics and bring awareness about issues.

Who the heck do they think they are?

They put their pants on one leg at a time just like everyone else. Anyone can express their views.

Taylor is pretty, she has a nice voice and makes good pop songs (which youngsters like)....... and thats the extent of her, fairly considerable, talent.
Her boyfriend is a sportsman, so what? You are a (fill in the blank profession), so what?

So because she is pretty and has a great voice, that is all she is good for? She has no right to have and express her political opinions? 

Actors make a living pretending to be someone else ............. That doesn't give then any credibility as a statesman.

You could say the same thing about ANYONE that had a different profession prior to politics.


No-one cares about the Oscars any more ... because its not about films..... There are too many people attention seeking ...and boring the audience to death with their proselytism

If no one cared, the Oscars would go away. There are many genuine people as well, just as in any other walk of life. In politics, there are too many attention seeking individuals. They are in it for notoriety or for themselves. They are not working towards the greater good.


As for politics, I'm impressed by people who are experts in their field... or more intelligent than I am

Just because someone is an expert in their field and/or more intelligent than you doesn’t mean they are good politicians. How does one measure intelligence aside from IQ? I am said to be an expert in my field which requires certain mathematical skill. Other types of mathematics make my eyes glaze over. Does that make me less intelligent? If we measure by IQ, how do you know Taylor Swift doesn’t have a higher IQ than you?

A bunch of light entertainers are neither of those things.

As mentioned above, just because one is a light entertainer, doesn’t mean they are empty-headed fluff pieces.

[Opti]

Feb 4, 2024 4:05:35 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

I dont think that actors and singers should use their platform to delve in to politics.

Who the heck do they think they are?

Taylor is pretty, she has a nice voice and makes good pop songs (which youngsters like)....... and thats the extent of her, fairly considerable, talent.
Her boyfriend is a sportsman, so what?

Actors make a living pretending to be someone else ............. That doesn't give then any credibility as a statesman.

No-one cares about the Oscars any more ... because its not about films..... There are too many people attention seeking ...and boring the audience to death with their proselytism



As for politics, I'm impressed by people who are experts in their field... or more intelligent than I am

A bunch of light entertainers are neither of those things.

There are people who think as you do, but when you have money and can do things to make the world better, why not? There are various singers and actors who have a long history of donating to causes and getting involved. Some people are celebrating a celeb who throws tantrums and got elected President. Given that, why should anyone at all hold back in America?

[thyme4change]

Feb 3, 2024 18:26:53 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Feb 3, 2024 18:06:26 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

Do you know how many people listen to every word that woman says? Would like to compare that to how many people listen to Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama. I think it is her civic duty to get her fans informed and out to vote. I see why Dads, Chad's and Brad's want her to shut up. As a Liberal woman I'm begging her to talk about politics. Do you think we could get her to write a song about it?

i think it would be a complete abdication of her moral obligation to yield that right.  and don't get me wrong.  99% of the performers WE HEAR ABOUT DO abdicate it- because they are being told to do so by money managers, who are in it for a paycheck, and trying to maximize return for not just the artist, but themselves.

this is why it takes a PARTICULARLY good person to become a Willie Nelson or a Randy Newman or a Taylor Swift or a Paul Robeson or a Louis Armstrong.  they refuse the Devil's bargain.  or they simply have nothing to say, which is fine (but not for me).

It isn’t like Taylor is putting her financial status in jeopardy. Once you hit a billion dollars, it is hard to go to the poor house. She doesn’t even work for the money anymore. It is just a high to get that kind of admiration.

[billisonboard]

Feb 4, 2024 14:34:42 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Feb 3, 2024 18:26:53 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i think it would be a complete abdication of her moral obligation to yield that right.  and don't get me wrong.  99% of the performers WE HEAR ABOUT DO abdicate it- because they are being told to do so by money managers, who are in it for a paycheck, and trying to maximize return for not just the artist, but themselves.

this is why it takes a PARTICULARLY good person to become a Willie Nelson or a Randy Newman or a Taylor Swift or a Paul Robeson or a Louis Armstrong.  they refuse the Devil's bargain.  or they simply have nothing to say, which is fine (but not for me).

It isn’t like Taylor is putting her financial status in jeopardy. Once you hit a billion dollars, it is hard to go to the poor house. She doesn’t even work for the money anymore. It is just a high to get that kind of admiration.

[Spellbound454]

Feb 4, 2024 6:48:46 GMT -5 Opti said:

Feb 4, 2024 4:05:35 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

I dont think that actors and singers should use their platform to delve in to politics.

Who the heck do they think they are?

Taylor is pretty, she has a nice voice and makes good pop songs (which youngsters like)....... and thats the extent of her, fairly considerable, talent.
Her boyfriend is a sportsman, so what?

Actors make a living pretending to be someone else ............. That doesn't give then any credibility as a statesman.

No-one cares about the Oscars any more ... because its not about films..... There are too many people attention seeking ...and boring the audience to death with their proselytism



As for politics, I'm impressed by people who are experts in their field... or more intelligent than I am

A bunch of light entertainers are neither of those things.

There are people who think as you do, but when you have money and can do things to make the world better, why not? There are various singers and actors who have a long history of donating to causes and getting involved. Some people are celebrating a celeb who throws tantrums and got elected President. Given that, why should anyone at all hold back in America?

Its great to see good actors, acting
Its great to see good singers, singing

but when it comes to politics, they get one vote just like the rest of us.

Their opinions... (and some of it is extreme) doesn't matter because they have no more expertise in this field than the average person.

Unless you really do want Kanye West as president..... because he is out of his freakkin tree.

[pulmonarymd]

There opinions matter as much as anyone else’s. No more, no less. They are allowed to express them like everyone else. You are free to ignore it. But to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves is hypocritical if you can express yours. They just have a bigger platform

[Tennesseer]

We can take or leave the political opinions of famous people who are not politicians.  Heck-we can take or leave the opinions of politicians too.  We do it all the time.

[laterbloomer]

Feb 4, 2024 4:05:35 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

I dont think that actors and singers should use their platform to delve in to politics.

Who the heck do they think they are?

Taylor is pretty, she has a nice voice and makes good pop songs (which youngsters like)....... and thats the extent of her, fairly considerable, talent.
Her boyfriend is a sportsman, so what?

Actors make a living pretending to be someone else ............. That doesn't give then any credibility as a statesman.

No-one cares about the Oscars any more ... because its not about films..... There are too many people attention seeking ...and boring the audience to death with their proselytism



As for politics, I'm impressed by people who are experts in their field... or more intelligent than I am

A bunch of light entertainers are neither of those things.

You really know nothing of Taylor Swift's talents and intelligence. I guarantee you she is more intelligent than you are. She is also more intelligent than many elected officials. You won't end up with Kanye as President because even Magats aren't that crazy.
You don't have to listen to the opinions of entertainers, but you have no right to insist they don't express themselves.

[laterbloomer]

Feb 4, 2024 14:34:42 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Feb 3, 2024 18:26:53 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i think it would be a complete abdication of her moral obligation to yield that right.  and don't get me wrong.  99% of the performers WE HEAR ABOUT DO abdicate it- because they are being told to do so by money managers, who are in it for a paycheck, and trying to maximize return for not just the artist, but themselves.

this is why it takes a PARTICULARLY good person to become a Willie Nelson or a Randy Newman or a Taylor Swift or a Paul Robeson or a Louis Armstrong.  they refuse the Devil's bargain.  or they simply have nothing to say, which is fine (but not for me).

It isn’t like Taylor is putting her financial status in jeopardy. Once you hit a billion dollars, it is hard to go to the poor house. She doesn’t even work for the money anymore. It is just a high to get that kind of admiration.

What do you mean she doesn't work for it anymore? Do you think creating music, producing videos, doing 4 hour concerts etc isn't work?

[Spellbound454]

Ahem.......... Reality TV Star anyone?

Some people don't take or leave it.

  I guarantee you she is more intelligent than you are.

Interesting, How are you going to guarantee that?

[pulmonarymd]

Feb 4, 2024 17:37:01 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Ahem.......... Reality TV Star anyone?

Some people don't take or leave it.

  I guarantee you she is more intelligent than you are.

Interesting, How are you going to guarantee that?

Whether she is more intelligent than you is irrelevant. Until there is a law that states that entertainers are not allowed to give their opinions, it is legal for them to do so. You aren’t in favor of restricting their free speech are you? Not much of a leap from restricting their speech to restricting everyone’s. You are allowed to express your opinion about their speech by boycotting their products. If enough people do so, then they may decide to keep quiet

[Spellbound454]

Yes ....... but if you have these people on a pedestal ....... and that continues in to something that is totally unconnected to their talent.

You get the wrong impression of their abilities   ......



Elections are not about whether someone can sing.

[pulmonarymd]

Feb 4, 2024 17:58:26 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Yes ....... but if you have these people on a pedestal ....... and that continues in to something that is totally unconnected to their talent.

You get the wrong impression of their abilities   ......



Elections are not about whether someone can sing.

Doesn’t matter how dangerous you think this is. Telling others they cannot express their opinion is wrong. Telling them their opinion is wrong is ok. People listen to others for all kinds of reasons. Our job is to counteract their speech, not restrict it. If they suffer negative consequences yo their actions, they may reconsider them. That is the way to deal with it

[tallguy]

Feb 4, 2024 17:58:26 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Yes ....... but if you have these people on a pedestal ....... and that continues in to something that is totally unconnected to their talent.

You get the wrong impression of their abilities   ......



Elections are not about whether someone can sing.

Their abilities have nothing to do with their views.  The only thing relevant is that they have a bigger platform.  Some people choose to utilize that.  Some people don't.  Either way, they have an absolute right to speak out if they choose, just like any other person.  They do not have an absolute right to be listened to, or to be taken seriously, but they do have a right to speak out.  The bigger problem is that there are people who will vote based on nothing other than what some celebrity says.  That is a failure of our civic involvement as a society, and we should be embarrassed to the extent that it actually happens.  I'll say this though:  I have never knowingly listened to a Taylor Swift song, couldn't name a single one, have never heard her speak, and don't care at all about her, but I would absolutely choose to listen to her over Donald Trump, on ANY subject.  She might actually make sense and do or say something good and positive for people.  He never will. 

[swamp]

Feb 4, 2024 14:53:45 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Feb 4, 2024 6:48:46 GMT -5 Opti said:

There are people who think as you do, but when you have money and can do things to make the world better, why not? There are various singers and actors who have a long history of donating to causes and getting involved. Some people are celebrating a celeb who throws tantrums and got elected President. Given that, why should anyone at all hold back in America?

Its great to see good actors, acting
Its great to see good singers, singing

but when it comes to politics, they get one vote just like the rest of us.

Their opinions... (and some of it is extreme) doesn't matter because they have no more expertise in this field than the average person.

Unless you really do want Kanye West as president..... because he is out of his freakkin tree.

Trump was an entertainer, and he’s out of his freaking tree, yet here we are…..

[Tennesseer]

Taylor must have been thirsty after performing.  

Serious website.

Taylor Swift ‘Murdered a Fan’ In Satanic Blood Ritual To Join Illuminati, Insider Claims

Taylor Swift murdered a young fan in a Satanic blood sacrifice ritual, according to production staff from Swift’s concert movie who allege the pop superstar was also forced by music industry Illuminati to drink the young boy’s blood.

Rest of article here: Taylor Swift ‘Murdered a Fan’ In Satanic Blood Ritual To Join Illuminati, Insider Claims


Did Taylor Swift Murder Fan In Illuminati Blood Ritual?!

Did Taylor Swift murder a fan, and drink his blood in a satanic blood ritual, in order to join the Illuminati?!

Take a look at the viral claim, and find out what the facts really are!

Did Taylor Swift Murder Fan In Illuminati Blood Ritual?!

People are sharing an article (archive) by The People’s Voice (formerly NewsPunch), which claims that Taylor Swift murdered a fan, and drank his blood, in a satanic blood ritual in order to join the Illuminati?!

Truth : Taylor Swift Did Not Murder Fan In Illuminati Blood Ritual!
This is yet another example of FAKE NEWS created / promoted by The People’s Voice, and here are the reasons why…

Fact #1 : Taylor Swift Did Not Murder Anyone

Let me start by simply pointing out that there is no evidence Taylor Swift murdered anyone, neither fan or enemy, in order to join the Illuminati.

If there was even a whiff of such a crime, it would have been covered breathlessly by the media all over the world, and the many celebrity blogs. Yet, no legitimate media outlet or celebrity blog mentioned this juicy story?

The People’s Voice certainly offered no evidence to back up its “fact checked” claim. Perhaps it will at least lodge a police report and give them the evidence? I won’t hold my breath for that…

Rest of article here: Did Taylor Swift Murder Fan In Illuminati Blood Ritual?!