Rudy Giuliani hit with $148M verdict

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Rudy Giuliani hit with $148M verdict for defaming two Georgia election workers


WASHINGTON — Rudy Giuliani should pay a pair of Georgia election workers he repeatedly and falsely accused of fraud $148 million in damages, a federal jury said Friday.



The eight-person jury awarded Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, the sum after a four-day trial, during which they testified that Giuliani’s lies in support of former President Donald Trump’s bogus stolen-election claims subjected them to a torrent of racist and violent threats and turned their lives upside down.

Their attorney, Michael Gottlieb, said in his closing argument that Giuliani had “no right to offer up defenseless civil servants up to a virtual mob in order to overturn an election.” He urged the jurors to “send a message” with their verdict.



He said the mother and daughter should each get at least $24 million in damages for Giuliani’s defamatory statements, as well as additional money for intentional infliction of emotional distress and punitive damages claims.




Feel free to add emoticons or thoughts on this verdict. 

[happyhoix]

I hope the ladies get at least some money out of him. I think he’s fairly broke, and Trump will never pay him what he owes him.

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Dec 15, 2023 21:02:32 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I hope the ladies get at least some money out of him. I think he’s fairly broke, and Trump will never pay him what he owes him.

[djAdvocate]

his life of appearing in Borat films is over.

he has always been a scumbag.

it just took 911 fame to have him become one full time, full stop.

[djAdvocate]

too bad we have to wait a month to hear the verdict in the Trump trial.

it will be worse, in all likelihood.

between him and Rudy, it will push half a billion.

can/will Rudy appeal?

[billisonboard]

Dec 16, 2023 0:07:38 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

too bad we have to wait a month to hear the verdict in the Trump trial.

it will be worse, in all likelihood.

between him and Rudy, it will push half a billion.

can/will Rudy appeal?

[djAdvocate]

“Mr. Giuliani is a good man,” Sibley said, even if “he hasn’t exactly helped himself with some of the things that happened in the past few days.”

um, no he isn't. good men don't do what RG did.

he is a pu$$y grabber, just like the man he serves.

[laterbloomer]

Dec 15, 2023 21:02:32 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I hope the ladies get at least some money out of him. I think he’s fairly broke, and Trump will never pay him what he owes him.

That's the problem with big settlements like this, you know he's going to appeal this until he dies.

[dondubble]

Dec 16, 2023 3:28:00 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

Dec 15, 2023 21:02:32 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I hope the ladies get at least some money out of him. I think he’s fairly broke, and Trump will never pay him what he owes him.

That's the problem with big settlements like this, you know he's going to appeal this until he dies.

He recently dropped the price on his $6+ million apartment in NYC and doesn’t have a job. He is heading towards a bankruptcy.

[djAdvocate]

Dec 16, 2023 11:14:52 GMT -5 dondubble said:

Dec 16, 2023 3:28:00 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

That's the problem with big settlements like this, you know he's going to appeal this until he dies.

He recently dropped the price on his $6+ million apartment in NYC and doesn’t have a job. He is heading towards a bankruptcy.

i agree with don.  i think his plan is to make the best of what remains of his life, by not admitting anything, and by making everyone around him miserable.  his estate will probably end up settling the matter.

he is a right bastard.

[tallguy]

Dec 16, 2023 3:28:00 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

Dec 15, 2023 21:02:32 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I hope the ladies get at least some money out of him. I think he’s fairly broke, and Trump will never pay him what he owes him.

That's the problem with big settlements like this, you know he's going to appeal this until he dies.

Likely not.  Georgia law may get him on that.

During a Saturday appearance on MSNBC's The Katie Phang Show, McQuade, who previously served as a U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan from 2010 to 2017 and appointed by former President Barack Obama, discussed the ruling and put forward what she argued could be an "obstacle" for Giuliani's hopes of getting an appeal.

"One of the things that is a bit of an obstacle to an appeal is the idea that in Georgia, a person has to post what's known as an appeal bond," she said. "And the idea behind an appeal bond is that an appeal could be filed for good faith reasons, it can also be filed simply to delay the pay day, and so to avoid the latter, litigants are required to pay in advance an appeal bond which is usually something more than the amount of the judgment, so that it's there in case there is a finality in the case. I don't know that Rudy Giuliani is going to get an appeal bond, so he may not be able to do it at all."

McQuade continued, noting that there is a potential option for Giuliani to petition the court and argue that the amount he has been ordered to pay is excessive. Even if this was successful, however, she said that the former mayor would still be on the hook for "tens of millions of dollars."

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If he is forced to post an appeal bond in excess of the judgment amount, he's got no shot.  Who would back him for that amount?  He can, I believe, challenge the amount but not the verdict absent the bond, but someone can correct me on that. 

[djAdvocate]

not sure how anyone can not want to set things right before they die.

[Opti]

Dec 16, 2023 11:14:52 GMT -5 dondubble said:

Dec 16, 2023 3:28:00 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

That's the problem with big settlements like this, you know he's going to appeal this until he dies.

He recently dropped the price on his $6+ million apartment in NYC and doesn’t have a job. He is heading towards a bankruptcy.

And has been headed to BK for some time.

[djAdvocate]

he was making a reported $17M a year in 2017.

can i possibly express how little sympathy i have for a guy who has made more in a year than i have in a lifetime?

nay. i think not.

[happyhoix]

Dec 16, 2023 15:03:25 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

he was making a reported $17M a year in 2017.

can i possibly express how little sympathy i have for a guy who has made more in a year than i have in a lifetime?

nay. i think not.

He’s ruined his legacy, too. Instead of going down in history as Americas Mayor post 911 he’ll be known as one of Trumps worst toadies.

Unless of course Trump wins in 2024 and establishes himself as dictator of a new Reich, in which case Guliani will be revered as a Maga hero.

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Dec 16, 2023 16:13:53 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Dec 16, 2023 15:03:25 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

he was making a reported $17M a year in 2017.

can i possibly express how little sympathy i have for a guy who has made more in a year than i have in a lifetime?

nay. i think not.

He’s ruined his legacy, too. Instead of going down in history as Americas Mayor post 911 he’ll be known as one of Trumps worst toadies.

Unless of course Trump wins in 2024 and establishes himself as dictator of a new Reich, in which case Guliani will be revered as a Maga hero.

He's ruined his place in history. He's doubled done again and again. Filmed with Borat's daughter in a Borat film plus remember the dripping fresh black hair dye?

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Dec 16, 2023 15:03:25 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

he was making a reported $17M a year in 2017.

can i possibly express how little sympathy i have for a guy who has made more in a year than i have in a lifetime?

nay. i think not.

Real money or what he said he billed Trump? ID remember.

[djAdvocate]

Dec 16, 2023 16:21:47 GMT -5 Opti said:

Dec 16, 2023 15:03:25 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

he was making a reported $17M a year in 2017.

can i possibly express how little sympathy i have for a guy who has made more in a year than i have in a lifetime?

nay. i think not.

Real money or what he said he billed Trump? ID remember.

he didn't charge Trump. remember?
that was one of the weird things about him.
he was Trump's FREE Attorney.

[tallguy]

Dec 16, 2023 17:47:55 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Dec 16, 2023 16:21:47 GMT -5 Opti said:

Real money or what he said he billed Trump? ID remember.

he didn't charge Trump. remember?
that was one of the weird things about him.
he was Trump's FREE Attorney.

And worth every penny.

[djAdvocate]

Dec 16, 2023 19:06:47 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Dec 16, 2023 17:47:55 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

he didn't charge Trump. remember?
that was one of the weird things about him.
he was Trump's FREE Attorney.

And worth every penny.

if he was really smart, he would flip on him right now.
he literally has everything to gain and nothing to lose.

but he seems like he has completely lost is mind.
if he ever even had one.

[Tennesseer]

[dondubble]

Dec 17, 2023 13:00:15 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

That’s not photoshopped?🤪

[Tennesseer]

Dec 17, 2023 13:21:08 GMT -5 dondubble said:

Dec 17, 2023 13:00:15 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

That’s not photoshopped?🤪

Nope! I verified (unlike others) if the haircut was true before posting it.

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Dec 16, 2023 19:14:23 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Dec 16, 2023 19:06:47 GMT -5 tallguy said:

And worth every penny.

if he was really smart, he would flip on him right now.
he literally has everything to gain and nothing to lose.

but he seems like he has completely lost is mind.
if he ever even had one.

I think Rudi really thought working for Trump would be a calling card and he could bill more. If you live in the tristate area or read his books, you should have known he always pays his lawyers less than market rate should he pay them at all.

But Rudi believed his own press after 9/11 instead of trying to be a better human being.

[djAdvocate]

Dec 17, 2023 15:10:11 GMT -5 Opti said:

Dec 16, 2023 19:14:23 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

if he was really smart, he would flip on him right now.
he literally has everything to gain and nothing to lose.

but he seems like he has completely lost is mind.
if he ever even had one.

I think Rudi really thought working for Trump would be a calling card and he could bill more. If you live in the tristate area or read his books, you should have known he always pays his lawyers less than market rate should he pay them at all.

But Rudi believed his own press after 9/11 instead of trying to be a better human being.

right.  but by now, ANYONE can see that the Gravy Train only has one stop: Mar A Lago.  so why do they persist in stoking that dumpster fire?

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Dec 17, 2023 15:28:59 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Dec 17, 2023 15:10:11 GMT -5 Opti said:

I think Rudi really thought working for Trump would be a calling card and he could bill more. If you live in the tristate area or read his books, you should have known he always pays his lawyers less than market rate should he pay them at all.

But Rudi believed his own press after 9/11 instead of trying to be a better human being.

right.  but by now, ANYONE can see that the Gravy Train only has one stop: Mar A Lago.  so why do they persist in stoking that dumpster fire?

I think its like living under an abusive terrorist regime. He abuses all of them so much, they don't realize they can escape and breathe. Plus, certain personalities gravitate to being helpers of power-hungry authoritarians. Michael Cohen admitted he was one of the latter.

[billisonboard]

Former Georgia election workers sue Rudy Giuliani again, asking judge to permanently stop him from lying about them

Rudy needs to learn the First Law of Holes.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

And predictably, he just filed for bankruptcy.  Surprise, surprise!  

[thyme4change]

When Rudy was talking to the press and repeated all the crap about the poll workers, he looked senile. He was looking around and not focusing- he looked like he was just repeating the only thing he could remember.

He isn’t going to get smarter as he ages.

[pulmonarymd]

Very few of us do