Rudy Giuliani hit with $148M verdict

[NastyWoman]

Dec 30, 2023 22:42:30 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

how can it be impeachable when Jim Jordan did it, without even a wristslap.

Especially since the only one who did not 100% their bidding is not an elected, and therefore impeachable, person. Hunter Biden is a private citizen. But why let a bit of fact become an obstacle in your weird efforts to impeach Biden senior?

[Opti]

Dec 31, 2023 12:53:52 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Dec 30, 2023 22:42:30 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

how can it be impeachable when Jim Jordan did it, without even a wristslap.

Especially since the only one who did not 100% their bidding is not an elected, and therefore impeachable, person. Hunter Biden is a private citizen. But why let a bit of fact become an obstacle in your weird efforts to impeach Biden senior?

They are doing Trump's bidding of using impeachment as a political tool. History will judge them for the idiots they are. 

[thyme4change]

Dec 30, 2023 12:15:59 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Dec 30, 2023 11:45:06 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

If Rudi had brought a fraction of the proof he claimed to have into a court filing they may have a leg to stand on. But all Rudi did was having endless press conferences claiming to have proof. Where was it when they filed the dozens of lawsuits? Why wasn’t any of it in the initial filing?

the theory was that any evidence he brought would either work against Trump or himself in his many other outstanding cases.

of course, he could plea out and avoid all of this.  but that would no doubt involve turning witness against Trump.

so, this boils down to fealty, i think.

If he had brought the plethora of evidence when they filed suit in Dec 2020, Trump might still be President and there would have been nothing illegal done on Jan 6.

[djAdvocate]

Dec 31, 2023 10:05:47 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Dec 30, 2023 21:43:09 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

From a couple of days ago.

House GOP probing if Biden was involved in Hunter's 'scheme' to defy subpoena, potential 'impeachable offense'

FIRST ON FOX: House Republicans are investigating whether President Biden was involved in his son Hunter Biden’s "scheme" to defy his subpoena for deposition earlier this month — conduct, they say, "could constitute an impeachable offense."

The House Oversight Committee, House Judiciary Committee, and House Ways & Means Committee are investigating "whether sufficient grounds exist to draft articles of impeachment against President Biden for consideration by the full House." The House formalized the inquiry earlier this month.

Rest of article here: House GOP probing if Biden was involved in Hunter's 'scheme' to defy subpoena, potential 'impeachable offense'

Hunter showed up as per the subpeona. Hunter insisted that his testimony be aired on TV so republicans could not twist his testimony. The republicans refused. Republicans had their chance.

Now will these republican committees charge Jim Jordan for failing to appear in front of the J6 committee as per the subpoena issued him? Naaaaa.

Republicans are cowards.

Seriously? Conspired with Hunter to defy a subpoena is impeachable but conspiring with a bunch of radical right wingers to overthrow an election is not a thing?  WTF GOP.

moreover, i believe that Biden has volunteered to testify.

in open hearing.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 31, 2023 12:53:52 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Dec 30, 2023 22:42:30 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

how can it be impeachable when Jim Jordan did it, without even a wristslap.

Especially since the only one who did not 100% their bidding is not an elected, and therefore impeachable, person. Hunter Biden is a private citizen. But why let a bit of fact become an obstacle in your weird efforts to impeach Biden senior?

The committees are now suggesting President Biden told Hunter not to testify in private but to show up on the appointed date and time and claim he would only testify in public, knowing the committees would be pissed off. Ergo, President Biden is hindering an investigaton and should be impeached.

[Opti]

Dec 31, 2023 13:54:56 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 31, 2023 12:53:52 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Especially since the only one who did not 100% their bidding is not an elected, and therefore impeachable, person. Hunter Biden is a private citizen. But why let a bit of fact become an obstacle in your weird efforts to impeach Biden senior?

The committees are now suggesting President Biden told Hunter not to testify in private but to show up on the appointed date and time and claim he would only testify in public, knowing the committees would be pissed off. Ergo, President Biden is hindering an investigaton and should be impeached.

Suggesting is just crap they are saying. If they can't prove it, can we impeach the lot of them? Asking for my fellow Americans. 

[Opti]

Dec 31, 2023 11:28:46 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 31, 2023 10:26:56 GMT -5 Opti said:

It has been working because too many of their supporters do not listen to actual news. Its how Putin has stayed in power and sent poor families sons to wars as cannon fodder. Because they can and because they think it is still working. And if you see Jordan Klepper videos you some of the sheeple still are bot doing their own research and are proud of the pablum they believe.

Fox News, which lost a court case and must pay $787.5 million to the plaintiff for lying to the American public, dominates cable news. This is where many if not most republicans get their news and believe Fox's lies and misinformation.

Cable News Ratings 2023: Fox News Dominates, But MSNBC Is Only Major Network With Year-Over-Year Audience Growth

Maybe another court case is needed to make them or pay for the deprogramming of those who they turned into bigger Sheeple than they already were. I have no idea if there is any legal precedent for something like that, but Tobacco companies have had to pay into smoker education etc when caught lying on the stand about making their products addictive. Would something like that work in 2024? Swamp? MidJD?

[Opti]

Dec 31, 2023 13:32:10 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Dec 30, 2023 12:15:59 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

the theory was that any evidence he brought would either work against Trump or himself in his many other outstanding cases.

of course, he could plea out and avoid all of this.  but that would no doubt involve turning witness against Trump.

so, this boils down to fealty, i think.

If he had brought the plethora of evidence when they filed suit in Dec 2020, Trump might still be President and there would have been nothing illegal done on Jan 6.

Except there was no evidence and hence all the useless court cases and talking points. I'm not sure Rudi is capable of recognizing real evidence. Even if it was labeled in boxes and assembled by beginning lawyers at a top tier firm.

[Opti]

Dec 30, 2023 21:43:09 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 30, 2023 21:01:21 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I had to smile gently through Christmas dinner myself. 

here’s the thing I would love to ask them - why is it all the lawsuits mostly stick to Trump, even the ones in front of Trump appointed judges, while the GOP can’t seem to dig up anything stackable to any Biden other than Hunter?

Deep state conspiracy of the entire legal system?

From a couple of days ago.

House GOP probing if Biden was involved in Hunter's 'scheme' to defy subpoena, potential 'impeachable offense'

FIRST ON FOX: House Republicans are investigating whether President Biden was involved in his son Hunter Biden’s "scheme" to defy his subpoena for deposition earlier this month — conduct, they say, "could constitute an impeachable offense."

The House Oversight Committee, House Judiciary Committee, and House Ways & Means Committee are investigating "whether sufficient grounds exist to draft articles of impeachment against President Biden for consideration by the full House." The House formalized the inquiry earlier this month.

Rest of article here: House GOP probing if Biden was involved in Hunter's 'scheme' to defy subpoena, potential 'impeachable offense'

Hunter showed up as per the subpeona. Hunter insisted that his testimony be aired on TV so republicans could not twist his testimony. The republicans refused. Republicans had their chance.

Now will these republican committees charge Jim Jordan for failing to appear in front of the J6 committee as per the subpoena issued him? Naaaaa.

Republicans are cowards.

And insufferably lazy. Are they going to go over to Russia when Trump loses or goes to jail? Will they seek positions as Putin's flunkies now since they know how to cave to someone who yells at them and treats them badly?

[billisonboard]

Dec 31, 2023 16:51:30 GMT -5 Opti said:

Dec 31, 2023 13:54:56 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

The committees are now suggesting President Biden told Hunter not to testify in private but to show up on the appointed date and time and claim he would only testify in public, knowing the committees would be pissed off. Ergo, President Biden is hindering an investigaton and should be impeached.

Suggesting is just crap they are saying. If they can't prove it, can we impeach the lot of them? Asking for my fellow Americans. 

No we can't impeach members of Congress.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 31, 2023 17:04:47 GMT -5 Opti said:

Dec 31, 2023 11:28:46 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Fox News, which lost a court case and must pay $787.5 million to the plaintiff for lying to the American public, dominates cable news. This is where many if not most republicans get their news and believe Fox's lies and misinformation.

Cable News Ratings 2023: Fox News Dominates, But MSNBC Is Only Major Network With Year-Over-Year Audience Growth

Maybe another court case is needed to make them or pay for the deprogramming of those who they turned into bigger Sheeple than they already were. I have no idea if there is any legal precedent for something like that, but Tobacco companies have had to pay into smoker education etc when caught lying on the stand about making their products addictive. Would something like that work in 2024? Swamp? MidJD?

Fox still has a $2.7 billion defamation lawsuit filed against them by Smartmatic which has not been resolved. Article is from November.

Rupert Murdoch to be deposed in Smartmatic defamation case against Fox

NEW YORK, Nov 28 (Reuters) - Rupert Murdoch is set to be questioned under oath on Tuesday and Wednesday as part of voting technology company Smartmatic's $2.7 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox Corp (FOXA.O) over coverage of debunked vote-rigging claims involving the 2020 U.S. presidential election, a person familiar with the matter said.

Murdoch will be deposed in Los Angeles, according to that person, who spoke on condition of anonymity. The deposition does not appear on the public docket for the case.

Murdoch, 92, had been the chairman of Fox Corp and News Corp (NWSA.O) before the companies announced in September that he was stepping down, becoming chairman emeritus of each company as of mid-November. As part of the transition, his son Lachlan Murdoch became the sole chairman of News Corp and continues as the chair and chief executive officer of Fox.

Representatives for Fox News and Murdoch did not respond to requests for comment about the deposition. A representative for Fox Corp declined to comment.

Rest of article here: Rupert Murdoch to be deposed in Smartmatic defamation case against Fox

[Tennesseer]

Dec 31, 2023 16:51:30 GMT -5 Opti said:

Dec 31, 2023 13:54:56 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

The committees are now suggesting President Biden told Hunter not to testify in private but to show up on the appointed date and time and claim he would only testify in public, knowing the committees would be pissed off. Ergo, President Biden is hindering an investigaton and should be impeached.

Suggesting is just crap they are saying. If they can't prove it, can we impeach the lot of them? Asking for my fellow Americans. 

Expelling them ala George Santos.

[happyhoix]

Dec 31, 2023 13:44:38 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Dec 31, 2023 10:05:47 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Seriously? Conspired with Hunter to defy a subpoena is impeachable but conspiring with a bunch of radical right wingers to overthrow an election is not a thing?  WTF GOP.

moreover, i believe that Biden has volunteered to testify.

in open hearing.

Have the GOP said why the hearing has to be behind closed doors? 

I mean, I know why. They want to be able to piddle back and forth about nothing at all behind closed doors and then come out in front of the media cameras and crow about how they have all the proof they need to show just how criminal the whole Biden clan is, so we need to impeach Biden right before the next election. 

I’m curious if they’ve made up a reason they can say out loud, with a straight face. 

[djAdvocate]

Dec 31, 2023 19:00:49 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Dec 31, 2023 13:44:38 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

moreover, i believe that Biden has volunteered to testify.

in open hearing.

Have the GOP said why the hearing has to be behind closed doors? 

I mean, I know why. They want to be able to piddle back and forth about nothing at all behind closed doors and then come out in front of the media cameras and crow about how they have all the proof they need to show just how criminal the whole Biden clan is, so we need to impeach Biden right before the next election. 

I’m curious if they’ve made up a reason they can say out loud, with a straight face. 

yes.

Comer has said that in public, they would have to hear from 100 people at 5 minutes each, so the hearing would drag on and on, and there are over 100000 documents to discuss.   

Democrats who serve on the committee say that holding it behind closed doors will stifle debate.

i think both statements are accurate.  the GOP doesn't want the cross examination made public.  they want to stifle debate.