The border is not open

[ripvanwinkle]

When are we going to fire this bozo. Why do he still have a job? Here is some more statistics direct from our border Czar at a Senate hearing today - www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mayorkas-confirms-over-600-000-illegal-immigrants-evaded-law-enforcement-at-southern-border-last-fiscal-year/ar-AA1jb03W?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=54a13d3c710d4d529fda71e8f903ddf1&ei=25

[thyme4change]

Oct 30, 2023 23:00:17 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Oct 30, 2023 15:23:38 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

you came so close, rip.

the next step was supposed to be "don't post this article".

if AP is not reporting on it, it is PROBABLY NOT news.  at least not news that would be of concern to a transnational board like this one.

I find it hard to believe that anybody would not feel that having 900,000 non vetted aliens released into our society is a good idea or not news. With the current revelation that border patrol stopped 160 suspected terrorist caught trying to cross the border. All of this data is available for any news organization to write on it.  

www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/number-people-terror-watchlist-stopped-mexico-us-border-risen-rcna105095

So - which is it - you want them to be caught or you don’t want them to be caught? Sounds to me like border control is doing their job - catching the bad guys.

[jerseygirl]

Oct 31, 2023 22:34:07 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Oct 30, 2023 23:00:17 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

I find it hard to believe that anybody would not feel that having 900,000 non vetted aliens released into our society is a good idea or not news. With the current revelation that border patrol stopped 160 suspected terrorist caught trying to cross the border. All of this data is available for any news organization to write on it.  

www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/number-people-terror-watchlist-stopped-mexico-us-border-risen-rcna105095

So - which is it - you want them to be caught or you don’t want them to be caught? Sounds to me like border control is doing their job - catching the bad guys.

Think it’s relevant that more and more suspected terrorists are trying to come over that border even if these have been caught. All caught??

And terror treat in US is increasing according to Wray of FBI (not just from people coming to US)

www.npr.org/2023/10/31/1209699057/wray-warns-of-increased-terrorist-threat-says-u-s-is-in-a-dangerous-period

[pulmonarymd]

The 9/11 terrorists came on and overstayed student visas
Timothy McVeigh was an American citizen
Almost all of the mass shootings in the US are done by people here legally

Seems like we do not need any help with causing violent death in this country. Yet we have no problem accepting 35+k deaths a year from firearms, and have no urgency to doing anything about them. SO spare me the hyperventilating about the border. 

The GOP would rather that this continues to be an issue they can get their base fired up about. They have no desire to try to negotiate a bill to try to improve the situation. Instead, we get "Build the Wall" and other performative nonsense like the stunts that the Texas governor pulls. We have been complaining about illegal immigration for decades. We have had Republican presidents during that time. If it was so easy to fix, why didn't they fix it?

[tallguy]

Nov 1, 2023 8:17:56 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

The 9/11 terrorists came on and overstayed student visas
Timothy McVeigh was an American citizen
Almost all of the mass shootings in the US are done by people here legally

Seems like we do not need any help with causing violent death in this country. Yet we have no problem accepting 35+k deaths a year from firearms, and have no urgency to doing anything about them. SO spare me the hyperventilating about the border. 

The GOP would rather that this continues to be an issue they can get their base fired up about. They have no desire to try to negotiate a bill to try to improve the situation. Instead, we get "Build the Wall" and other performative nonsense like the stunts that the Texas governor pulls. We have been complaining about illegal immigration for decades. We have had Republican presidents during that time. If it was so easy to fix, why didn't they fix it?

Because they don't really want to, as you know.  The other answer is that it would require going after the employers with something that has real teeth, which they ABSOLUTELY will NEVER do.

[jerseygirl]

BOTH parties have done nothing

[pulmonarymd]

Yet only 1 has been running on fixing it and continues to rail about it. Your both siderism on subjects is tiresome

Just look at who started this thread and where he gets the material he quotes. It is all from far right sources.

It is just another point to show that Republicans no longer want to run on policy. They would rather complaim and posture. Just look at what happened to McCarthy. You have a party of no in the Republican party. Either they get their way or they vote no. And compromise! They have no desire to compromise.

[Tennesseer]

Oct 30, 2023 0:41:19 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Oct 29, 2023 22:15:41 GMT -5 dondubble said:

So you respect Liz Cheney then.

I haven''t really followed her. She is just a also ran. No interest to me. I tend to follow my local and state politics. And every 4 yrs the presidential race.

You really are "Comfortably uninformed." You should expand your reading and knowledge because it shows you are lacking. It was Republicans Liz Cheney and now former GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger who stood up for the American people as members of the United States House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (commonly referred to as the January 6th Committee).

Ex-GOPer slams fame-hungry former colleagues for allowing 'slide to authoritarianism'

Former GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger hit out at D.C. for becoming a "new Hollywood" where people are getting elected just "to become famous."

"And a lot of the time they just put their head in the sand and pretend like we can get this fixed by just allowing the far right to have their way on a number of things," Kinzinger said. "And so while most may be there to govern, that doesn't mean that they're going to actually do what they need to do to get to a situation where they can fight back and govern."

When it comes to the ousting of Kevin McCarthy as Speaker of the House, Kinzinger said the "writing was on the wall."

"When you cut a deal with what I think [former Speaker John] Boehner aptly called the 'terrorist caucus,' and you start cutting deals that make it where they hold you hostage, and then you come up against real deadlines like a debt limit, like government shutdowns, I think it was inevitable," he said.

When asked if he still considers himself a Republican, Kinzinger replied that he does, but "only because I'm not willing to give up and only because I haven't changed. I will say I will call myself a Republican that feels politically homeless at the moment and don't know where I belong.

"But I also know that if everything kind of tracks the way it is in 2024, I won't be voting Republican because, again, I think it's a simple question of democracy or no democracy," he said. "And the Republican Party represents right now a real slide to authoritarianism ... If it was Joe Biden and Donald Trump, I don't think there's any question I would vote for Joe Biden."

Ex-GOPer slams fame-hungry former colleagues for allowing 'slide to authoritarianism'

[Tennesseer]

Nov 1, 2023 8:09:37 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Oct 31, 2023 22:34:07 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

So - which is it - you want them to be caught or you don’t want them to be caught? Sounds to me like border control is doing their job - catching the bad guys.

Think it’s relevant that more and more suspected terrorists are trying to come over that border even if these have been caught. All caught??

And terror treat in US is increasing according to Wray of FBI (not just from people coming to US)

www.npr.org/2023/10/31/1209699057/wray-warns-of-increased-terrorist-threat-says-u-s-is-in-a-dangerous-period

I am more concerned about domestic terrorists like Timothy McVeigh. We have U.S. citizens who wish to harm the United States. They daily walk amongst us.

[jerseygirl]

Nov 1, 2023 11:11:56 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Nov 1, 2023 8:09:37 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Think it’s relevant that more and more suspected terrorists are trying to come over that border even if these have been caught. All caught??

And terror treat in US is increasing according to Wray of FBI (not just from people coming to US)

www.npr.org/2023/10/31/1209699057/wray-warns-of-increased-terrorist-threat-says-u-s-is-in-a-dangerous-period

I am more concerned about domestic terrorists like Timothy McVeigh. We have U.S. citizens who wish to harm the United States. They daily walk amongst us.

Why more concerned? I’m concerned with both.
This thread seems determined to downplay any problems with southern border. Living in NJ I’m seeing NYC being overwhelmed by people coming over SB according to the Democratic mayor of NY. Includes lack of space housing and mounting costs

[tallguy]

Nov 1, 2023 11:52:14 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Nov 1, 2023 11:11:56 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I am more concerned about domestic terrorists like Timothy McVeigh. We have U.S. citizens who wish to harm the United States. They daily walk amongst us.

Why more concerned? I’m concerned with both.
This thread seems determined to downplay any problems with southern border. Living in NJ I’m seeing NYC being overwhelmed by people coming over SB according to the Democratic mayor of NY. Includes lack of space housing and mounting costs

Numbers.  Simple numbers.  The number of people already inside this country, who Trump and MAGA appeal to and nurture, and who want to do serious damage to or completely destroy American democracy, is FAR greater than the number of external threats entering this country by any means or method.

[azucena]

Nov 1, 2023 12:19:45 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Nov 1, 2023 11:52:14 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Why more concerned? I’m concerned with both.
This thread seems determined to downplay any problems with southern border. Living in NJ I’m seeing NYC being overwhelmed by people coming over SB according to the Democratic mayor of NY. Includes lack of space housing and mounting costs

Numbers.  Simple numbers.  The number of people already inside this country, who Trump and MAGA appeal to and nurture, and who want to do serious damage to or completely destroy American democracy, is FAR greater than the number of external threats entering this country by any means or method.

 and their unfettered access to guns

[Tennesseer]

Nov 1, 2023 11:52:14 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Nov 1, 2023 11:11:56 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I am more concerned about domestic terrorists like Timothy McVeigh. We have U.S. citizens who wish to harm the United States. They daily walk amongst us.

Why more concerned? I’m concerned with both.
This thread seems determined to downplay any problems with southern border. Living in NJ I’m seeing NYC being overwhelmed by people coming over SB according to the Democratic mayor of NY. Includes lack of space housing and mounting costs

Then let's let our domestic terrorists kill even more Americans and there will be plenty of available housing. Win/Win I guess.

[jerseygirl]

Nov 1, 2023 13:53:24 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Nov 1, 2023 11:52:14 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Why more concerned? I’m concerned with both.
This thread seems determined to downplay any problems with southern border. Living in NJ I’m seeing NYC being overwhelmed by people coming over SB according to the Democratic mayor of NY. Includes lack of space housing and mounting costs

Then let's let our domestic terrorists kill even more Americans and there will be plenty of available housing. Win/Win I guess.

Really miserable response

[Tennesseer]

Nov 1, 2023 14:54:40 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Nov 1, 2023 13:53:24 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Then let's let our domestic terrorists kill even more Americans and there will be plenty of available housing. Win/Win I guess.

Really miserable response

I'm cynical about all the whining about immigrants crossing our southern border. And disgusted with all the firearms on our streets and conservative states can only offer thoughts and prayers when mass shootings rain on us by our U.S. citizens. Our country needs to ban semi-assault firearms. But the call from conservatives is more firearms.

[djAdvocate]

keep in mind how you GET on the "terrorism watch list".

if you have a distant cousin who is a terrorist, you are on it.

so, for example, Bandar bin Sultan Al Saud, the guy who served with Pappy Bush on the board of directors of Carlysle group.  you can count on him being in the 28 missing pages of the 911 report.  but him and many other Saudi nationals were hustled out of the US despite the obvious issues with Saudi Arabia over that event (15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi).

how many of the 160 foreign nationals fall into that category?
we may never know.

but here is food for thought: there might not be ONE among them that even KNOWS the member of their family that got them on that list.

[djAdvocate]

Nov 1, 2023 12:19:45 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Nov 1, 2023 11:52:14 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Why more concerned? I’m concerned with both.
This thread seems determined to downplay any problems with southern border. Living in NJ I’m seeing NYC being overwhelmed by people coming over SB according to the Democratic mayor of NY. Includes lack of space housing and mounting costs

Numbers.  Simple numbers.  The number of people already inside this country, who Trump and MAGA appeal to and nurture, and who want to do serious damage to or completely destroy American democracy, is FAR greater than the number of external threats entering this country by any means or method.

consider the number of domestic terrorist attacks since 911.
then consider the number of foreign terrorist attacks since 911.
when you are done considering that, then reply again.  not before.

note: this comment was not directed to tallguy.

[tallguy]

Nov 1, 2023 17:49:54 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Nov 1, 2023 12:19:45 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Numbers.  Simple numbers.  The number of people already inside this country, who Trump and MAGA appeal to and nurture, and who want to do serious damage to or completely destroy American democracy, is FAR greater than the number of external threats entering this country by any means or method.

consider the number of domestic terrorist attacks since 911.
then consider the number of foreign terrorist attacks since 911.
when you are done considering that, then reply again.  not before.

note: this comment was not directed to tallguy .

Wow, I had a VERY questioning response all typed out and then realized that I had mis-read your note.  NOT directed to tallguy.  

[Tennesseer]

[Tennesseer]

Opinion: The Trump family’s hypocrisy on immigration

At a naturalization ceremony this past week, former First Lady Melania Trump offered words of encouragement to some two dozen people being sworn in as some of America’s newest citizens. A day later, her husband, former President Donald Trump, was spewing vile comments about immigrants from many of the very same countries.

Melania’s remarks came at a swearing-in ceremony for new Americans Friday at the National Archives — the government agency that her husband repeatedly attacked after leaving office for seeking the return of classified documents he is alleged to have wrongly taken from the White House.

Slovenia-born Melania, who appeared at the event by way of a personal invitation from the Archivist of the United States, Colleen Shogan, a Biden appointee, shared with attendees her own struggles becoming a naturalized American.

“Traversing the challenges of the immigration process opened my eyes to the harsh realities people face, including you, who try to become US citizens,” Melania said.

One has to wonder how much greater her challenge would have been if the leading GOP candidate for president at the time had been suggesting that newcomers to America were “poisoning the blood of our country.” That’s what Donald Trump said in October and again at a rally in New Hampshire on Saturday.

When Trump first made that jarring statement, many experts noted it seemed to have echoes of Adolf Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” and modern day White supremacists. At Saturday’s rally, the former president warned of a threat to the US emanating from a wide swath of immigrants “from Africa, from Asia, all over the world.”

Rest of article here: Opinion: The Trump family’s hypocrisy on immigration

[djAdvocate]

Slovenia is a cool place.
it is actually on my expat list.

there is a place called Koper. it is on the Adriatic, it is only a 22 minute drive to Trieste,  which is well connected for travel, and 2 hours by car to Venice. temperate, lovely.

[Opti]

Dec 18, 2023 18:50:49 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Opinion: The Trump family’s hypocrisy on immigration

At a naturalization ceremony this past week, former First Lady Melania Trump offered words of encouragement to some two dozen people being sworn in as some of America’s newest citizens. A day later, her husband, former President Donald Trump, was spewing vile comments about immigrants from many of the very same countries.

Melania’s remarks came at a swearing-in ceremony for new Americans Friday at the National Archives — the government agency that her husband repeatedly attacked after leaving office for seeking the return of classified documents he is alleged to have wrongly taken from the White House.

Slovenia-born Melania, who appeared at the event by way of a personal invitation from the Archivist of the United States, Colleen Shogan, a Biden appointee, shared with attendees her own struggles becoming a naturalized American.

“Traversing the challenges of the immigration process opened my eyes to the harsh realities people face, including you, who try to become US citizens,” Melania said.

One has to wonder how much greater her challenge would have been if the leading GOP candidate for president at the time had been suggesting that newcomers to America were “poisoning the blood of our country.” That’s what Donald Trump said in October and again at a rally in New Hampshire on Saturday.

When Trump first made that jarring statement, many experts noted it seemed to have echoes of Adolf Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” and modern day White supremacists. At Saturday’s rally, the former president warned of a threat to the US emanating from a wide swath of immigrants “from Africa, from Asia, all over the world.”

Rest of article here: Opinion: The Trump family’s hypocrisy on immigration

I really don't like this opinion piece. While I see the discordance in this situation, the bottom line is Melania is who she is, and she does not control Donald J Trump's actions. Since she does not control DJT, why write about Melania at all? (Valid Q IMO)


From reading the article-

Colleen Shogan, invited Melania to be there. It implies they were known to each other in RL due to the position Colleen had when Trump was in office and Melania was the first lady. If these were mostly conservative leaning new immigrants was there real harm in letting Melania speak? 

If the opinion writer wants to attack DJT for what he says in public on immigration, he should. But this was not the way to do it. Is he a conservative or just tired and not thinking? Bad opinion piece. A good opinion piece would just use actual DJT sound bites etc.

[ripvanwinkle]

I sleep good at night and y'all should also knowing the border is 'not open' according to the administration and all these people are thoroughly vetted. Hmmm...

www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/10-000-migrants-crossing-southern-border-every-day-in-overwhelming-surge/ar-AA1lH3RG?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=93fe44069f3f413499cddd0fd9325add&ei=66

[Opti]

Dec 19, 2023 1:28:23 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

I sleep good at night and y'all should also knowing the border is 'not open' according to the administration and all these people are thoroughly vetted. Hmmm...

www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/10-000-migrants-crossing-southern-border-every-day-in-overwhelming-surge/ar-AA1lH3RG?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=93fe44069f3f413499cddd0fd9325add&ei=66

So is Trump going to slide a rolling metal border wall across the 300ish miles of southern border on day one?
Why are you worrying about this during the holiday season unless you are a resident in a border town? And if that was true, do you ever blame local landowners for not selling their land so border wall can even be built on it?


Asking because I am sick of the fake border drama. If you are a Christian, you do remember Mary and Joseph had to return to the town on their birth so the ruler in charge could count them and decide how to tax his subjects accordingly. Right? Correct? 

[Opti]

Dec 19, 2023 1:28:23 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

I sleep good at night and y'all should also knowing the border is 'not open' according to the administration and all these people are thoroughly vetted. Hmmm...

www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/10-000-migrants-crossing-southern-border-every-day-in-overwhelming-surge/ar-AA1lH3RG?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=93fe44069f3f413499cddd0fd9325add&ei=66

Why don't you apply to do the job since you seem unaware of what vetting is done and more importantly what is possible. 

Feels like the entire world, or at least the US is mad. But likely it is less than half and maybe after the pressure of the holidays is past some of you will be more sensible. Off to better and happier things.

[Spellbound454]

Most western countries are having problems with illegal immigration.

Some are refugees, of course, and we would offer them asylum but many are economic migrants.

Those in the coastal towns and regions of high concentrations,  are feeling overwhelmed and fed up.

As they are in the rest of Europe

It will be  a high priority election issue next year.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 19, 2023 0:50:55 GMT -5 Opti said:

Dec 18, 2023 18:50:49 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Opinion: The Trump family’s hypocrisy on immigration

At a naturalization ceremony this past week, former First Lady Melania Trump offered words of encouragement to some two dozen people being sworn in as some of America’s newest citizens. A day later, her husband, former President Donald Trump, was spewing vile comments about immigrants from many of the very same countries.

Melania’s remarks came at a swearing-in ceremony for new Americans Friday at the National Archives — the government agency that her husband repeatedly attacked after leaving office for seeking the return of classified documents he is alleged to have wrongly taken from the White House.

Slovenia-born Melania, who appeared at the event by way of a personal invitation from the Archivist of the United States, Colleen Shogan, a Biden appointee, shared with attendees her own struggles becoming a naturalized American.

“Traversing the challenges of the immigration process opened my eyes to the harsh realities people face, including you, who try to become US citizens,” Melania said.

One has to wonder how much greater her challenge would have been if the leading GOP candidate for president at the time had been suggesting that newcomers to America were “poisoning the blood of our country.” That’s what Donald Trump said in October and again at a rally in New Hampshire on Saturday.

When Trump first made that jarring statement, many experts noted it seemed to have echoes of Adolf Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” and modern day White supremacists. At Saturday’s rally, the former president warned of a threat to the US emanating from a wide swath of immigrants “from Africa, from Asia, all over the world.”

Rest of article here: Opinion: The Trump family’s hypocrisy on immigration

I really don't like this opinion piece. While I see the discordance in this situation, the bottom line is Melania is who she is, and she does not control Donald J Trump's actions. Since she does not control DJT, why write about Melania at all? (Valid Q IMO)


From reading the article-

Colleen Shogan, invited Melania to be there. It implies they were known to each other in RL due to the position Colleen had when Trump was in office and Melania was the first lady. If these were mostly conservative leaning new immigrants was there real harm in letting Melania speak? 

If the opinion writer wants to attack DJT for what he says in public on immigration, he should. But this was not the way to do it. Is he a conservative or just tired and not thinking? Bad opinion piece. A good opinion piece would just use actual DJT sound bites etc.

Bless your heart. Congratualatons-you have fed another reason for MAGA cult members to vote for trump. Melania has earned the scorn in the article you disagree with if for nothing else having said the below this past May:

“He has my support, and we look forward to restoring hope for the future and leading America with love and strength.”

Melania does not live in a bubble. Melania has seen the criminal behavior of her husband. Melania has heard every vile thing trump has said about women, people of Color and other minorities in our country. Melania has heard every thing trump has said about seeking revenge against everyone who spoke badly of him. Yet by you stating Melania does not deserve ridicule, MAGA woman presume that if Melania is fine with trump then so should they be.

Melania should have kept her mouth shut.

[Opti]

Dec 19, 2023 12:45:09 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 19, 2023 0:50:55 GMT -5 Opti said:

I really don't like this opinion piece. While I see the discordance in this situation, the bottom line is Melania is who she is, and she does not control Donald J Trump's actions. Since she does not control DJT, why write about Melania at all? (Valid Q IMO)


From reading the article-

Colleen Shogan, invited Melania to be there. It implies they were known to each other in RL due to the position Colleen had when Trump was in office and Melania was the first lady. If these were mostly conservative leaning new immigrants was there real harm in letting Melania speak? 

If the opinion writer wants to attack DJT for what he says in public on immigration, he should. But this was not the way to do it. Is he a conservative or just tired and not thinking? Bad opinion piece. A good opinion piece would just use actual DJT sound bites etc.

Bless your heart. Congratualatons-you have fed another reason for MAGA cult members to vote for trump. Melania has earned the scorn in the article you disagree with if for nothing else having said the below this past May:

“He has my support, and we look forward to restoring hope for the future and leading America with love and strength.”

Melania does not live in a bubble. Melania has seen the criminal behavior of her husband. Melania has heard every vile thing trump has said about women, people of Color and other minorities in our country. Melania has heard every thing trump has said about seeking revenge against everyone who spoke badly of him. Yet by you stating Melania does not deserve ridicule, MAGA woman presume that if Melania is fine with trump then so should they be.

Melania should have kept her mouth shut.

I doubt MAGAs are trolling our board looking for reasons to vote for Trump. They are MAGAs which means they already have voted for him and plan to again.    I think 1 out of a null set is still zero.

I think Trump is a clear and present danger, but writing about his wife instead of him seems lazy and well RW article like. I don't really feel the need to watch all the speech, but I got to 3 minutes and heard nothing crazy or out of line. We knew He and she have one standard for immigrants when it involves them and another when it does not. Writing an article with the wandering connections of FOX or Sean Hannity is an ugh for me.

Nothing new is in the article except that Melania spoke at this event. 

[djAdvocate]

Dec 19, 2023 1:28:23 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

I sleep good at night and y'all should also knowing the border is 'not open' according to the administration and all these people are thoroughly vetted. Hmmm...

www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/10-000-migrants-crossing-southern-border-every-day-in-overwhelming-surge/ar-AA1lH3RG?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=93fe44069f3f413499cddd0fd9325add&ei=66

you realize that driving up hysteria is something fascists do to take over, right?

you have ZERO evidence that "terrorists" are coming over the border.
ZERO.
nobody does.

please admit that.

[djAdvocate]

Dec 19, 2023 5:11:51 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Most western countries are having problems with illegal immigration.

Some are refugees, of course, and we would offer them asylum but many are economic migrants.

Those in the coastal towns and regions of high concentrations,  are feeling overwhelmed and fed up.

As they are in the rest of Europe

It will be  a high priority election issue next year.

not really.

many Western countries are CLAIMING to have problems with "illegal" immigration.

whether those claims are true or not is worth examining.