The border is not open

[billisonboard]

Oct 10, 2024 22:27:53 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Why am I not surprised on this. A Afghan man who came in on a special immigrant visa plots a attack on election day. How many other special "vetted" immigrants are like this are there here? Only time will tell. I expect to see a 9-11 like attack sometime.

www.politico.com/news/2024/10/08/fbi-arrest-election-day-attack-00182968

"Tawhedi, who entered the U.S. in 2021 on a special immigrant visa, had taken steps in recent weeks to advance his attack plans, including by ordering AK-47 rifles, liquidating his family’s assets and buying one-way tickets for his wife and child to travel home to Afghanistan".

Can HSI or CPB really vet all the 1000's of people crossing the border from all over the world daily? Who do they call in that country? What if the country is controlled by criminals like in Haiti or the Taliban? Of course those countries will say that person is okay.

Good job Federal Bureau of Investigations. Thank you for the work you do to keep us as safe as possible.

[Tennesseer]

Oct 10, 2024 22:27:53 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Why am I not surprised on this. A Afghan man who came in on a special immigrant visa plots a attack on election day. How many other special "vetted" immigrants are like this are there here? Only time will tell. I expect to see a 9-11 like attack sometime.

www.politico.com/news/2024/10/08/fbi-arrest-election-day-attack-00182968

"Tawhedi, who entered the U.S. in 2021 on a special immigrant visa, had taken steps in recent weeks to advance his attack plans, including by ordering AK-47 rifles, liquidating his family’s assets and buying one-way tickets for his wife and child to travel home to Afghanistan".

Can HSI or CPB really vet all the 1000's of people crossing the border from all over the world daily? Who do they call in that country? What if the country is controlled by criminals like in Haiti or the Taliban? Of course those countries will say that person is okay.

Shame, shame shame on trump for negotiating the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan with the Taliban and not the Afghanistan government. Their citizens are pissed off at the USA.

U.S. reaches "huge milestone moment" in Afghanistan peace process

[pulmonarymd]

Remind me again, how many illegal aliens were attacking the Capitol on January 6

[happyhoix]

Oct 11, 2024 5:24:39 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Remind me again, how many illegal aliens were attacking the Capitol on January 6

Same number that set off a bomb at the Oklahoma City federal building.

I’m more worried about the far right loons and what they may be planning, at this point, then I am about brown terrorists from shit hole countries, to quote Donald. Home grown terrorists are harder to track.

[dondubble]

Oct 10, 2024 22:44:03 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Oct 10, 2024 22:27:53 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Why am I not surprised on this. A Afghan man who came in on a special immigrant visa plots an attack on election day. How many other special "vetted" immigrants are like this are there here? Only time will tell. I expect to see a 9-11 like attack sometime.

www.politico.com/news/2024/10/08/fbi-arrest-election-day-attack-00182968

"Tawhedi, who entered the U.S. in 2021 on a special immigrant visa, had taken steps in recent weeks to advance his attack plans, including by ordering AK-47 rifles, liquidating his family’s assets and buying one-way tickets for his wife and child to travel home to Afghanistan".

Can HSI or CPB really vet all the 1000's of people crossing the border from all over the world daily? Who do they call in that country? What if the country is controlled by criminals like in Haiti or the Taliban? Of course those countries will say that person is okay.

Shame, shame shame on trump for negotiating the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan with the Taliban and not the Afghanistan government. Their citizens are pissed off at the USA.

U.S. reaches "huge milestone moment" in Afghanistan peace process

Giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Hmmm. And allowing the release of 5000 imprisoned Taliban to aid in the rapid overthrow of the Afghani government.

[Tennesseer]

[happyhoix]

Oct 12, 2024 14:54:34 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

This reminds me of an interview I saw years ago, where a reporter asked a guy how immigrants were impacting his ability to get a job (he was unemployed, and also appeared to be drunk before noon, had a minimal number of teeth, and appeared to have slept under a bush for at least a month).

He angrily replied that he needed a job that paid at least 15 bucks an hour to make it worth his time to do, but all these immigrants were coming in, willing to work for low wages, and that made it impossible for him to find a job.

Yes, it’s the immigrants that have prevented you from getting a job. 🙄

[Tennesseer]

[thyme4change]

Maybe they did their time and were let go on parole?

I’m not super excited about giving status to assault and sexual offenders. We seem to do a good enough job producing those on our own.

[Tennesseer]

New York Times opinion piece.

When Trump Rants, This Is What I Hear

I’ve never considered “immigrant” my calling card, even though it’s one I’ve always carried.

I arrived here first as a 3-year-old boy in the mid-1970s, settling with my family in Northern California, in a small town with trees so thick that their branches mingled high over the roads. My mother introduced us around the neighborhood not just as a new family, but as a Peruvian family (she signed cards, “from your Peruvian friends”). It mattered to her that people knew, whether to convey her pride or pre-empt their questions. Even when you’re trying to fit in, you can’t help standing out.

She connected with other women in the area from Spanish-speaking countries, forming a group they called the Lovely Latin Ladies. The food, music, laughter and nostalgia infusing those Triple L gatherings remain among my most vivid childhood memories. It’s taken me this long to realize that in Spanish the verb for “longing” and the noun for “stranger” — “extraño” — are the same word.

I am older today than the lovely ladies were then. After some back and forth between Lima and California in my childhood, I’ve made my home in the United States for decades now — going to college and graduate school, passing the citizenship test, marrying a native-born American, even seeing our children born in the nation’s capital. I’m an immigrant, but over the years the label has moved lower on my drop-down menu.

Is immigration something you do or something you are? Is it a step on the way to becoming something else or does the passage itself forever define you?

The longer I’m here, the more it’s become a memory, an evocation of a long ago that I share with my children, much as we might construct a family tree.

In recent years, though, the distance has narrowed between memory and identity, between immigration as a once upon a time versus a here and now. In our politics, the presence of immigrants is again a contested campaign issue. But even that word — “issue” — is too convenient, a buffer between policy and humanity. It’s one thing to ponder and debate issues, as I do in my work. It’s another to be one.

When Donald Trump cried out in last month’s debate with Kamala Harris that immigrants were “eating the dogs” in Springfield, Ohio, I was struck by an overwhelming sadness. Sadness at the cruelty of the unfounded accusation and at the damage it would inflict on the people in that one town, but also at the relentless diminishing of an American aspiration, an aspiration I still refuse to dismiss as naïve. I’ve long regarded Trump as a challenge for America — for democratic institutions, for honesty and, yes, for its immigrant tradition — but this xenophobic cacophony, building so relentlessly over the past decade, now feels overpowering. It also feels directed my way, at who I am and the choices I’ve made.

It would be wildly ahistoric to say that Trump, on his own, has eroded the ideal of America as a nation of immigrants. His opponents love to say that “this is not who we are,” even if, in truth, it is who we have often been. For all of Trump’s particular efforts — the wall, the travel ban, the family separations and now the pledge of mass deportation — he is part of a long tradition. You don’t have to go back to the expulsion of Mexicans and Mexican Americans during the Great Depression, or the passage of the Chinese Exclusion Act in the late 19th century, or Benjamin Franklin’s musings on those inassimilable Germans. But you could.

Rest of article here: When Trump Rants, This Is What I Hear

[happyhoix]

I was thinking lately about how deeply hypocritical Trump is on immigration.

Two of his wives were immigrants. His mother was an immigrant. His grandfather on his dad’s side was an immigrant. Four of his legitimate kids are half first generation immigrants. He has special work visas for his hotels and resorts to be able to bring in foreign workers to be indentured servants.

Yet he claimed yesterday our country is a garbage can because we accept all these immigrants from all over the world.

I don’t get it.

[pulmonarymd]

Because his wives and relatives are white, and the majority of the immigrants arriving now are not. It really is very simple. He is an unrepentant racist, as are most of his followers

[happyhoix]

Oct 25, 2024 10:22:54 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Because his wives and relatives are white, and the majority of the immigrants arriving now are not. It really is very simple. He is an unrepentant racist, as are most of his followers

I get why Trump thinks the way he does. He’s racist as hell.

I don’t get how his MAGA followers give him a pass on this.

It’s like having your neighbor who owns a pack of pit bulls lecturing you on how dangerous your terrier is.

I don’t get why the more racist minions don’t call bullshit on his purity stance.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Oct 25, 2024 12:06:38 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Oct 25, 2024 10:22:54 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Because his wives and relatives are white, and the majority of the immigrants arriving now are not. It really is very simple. He is an unrepentant racist, as are most of his followers

I get why Trump thinks the way he does. He’s racist as hell.

I don’t get how his MAGA followers give him a pass on this.

It’s like having your neighbor who owns a pack of pit bulls lecturing you on how dangerous your terrier is.

I don’t get why the more racist minions don’t call bullshit on his purity stance.

Because they don't care as long as it gets them what they want.  It's about control it never has been about the shit Trump actually says or does.  Trump gives them the control they want.

I mean why is Joel Osteen richer than snot when Jesus took a vow of poverty?    How many senators who are against gay marriage have been caught in various bathrooms tapping their foot? Same thing.

[pulmonarymd]

Oct 25, 2024 12:06:38 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Oct 25, 2024 10:22:54 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Because his wives and relatives are white, and the majority of the immigrants arriving now are not. It really is very simple. He is an unrepentant racist, as are most of his followers

I get why Trump thinks the way he does. He’s racist as hell.

I don’t get how his MAGA followers give him a pass on this.

It’s like having your neighbor who owns a pack of pit bulls lecturing you on how dangerous your terrier is.

I don’t get why the more racist minions don’t call bullshit on his purity stance.

Because he hates the same people that they do. And the believe in the great replacement theory. They are afraid of the coming demographic “time bomb” when whites will no longer be the majority, and they want to “take our country” back to the halcyon days of the 1960s when everyone knew their place. As long as you are white it is good. Funny how the definition of white changes though. My grandparents weren’t considered white when they came to the US

[Tennesseer]

More humans like Nicholas Winton and less like trump and his ilk.

[Tennesseer]

[djAdvocate]

Oct 25, 2024 14:04:04 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

More humans like Nicholas Winton and less like trump and his ilk.

if this were Trump, he would have spent 76 years demanding a Nobel Prize for it.  instead, this guy spent 50 years in silence about it.  this is the kind of person that we should ALL look up to and admire.  this is my definition of a hero- a person who sacrifices and asks for NOTHING in return.  a person who is guileless and non-transactional.  a person who is as far away from the ethos of Trump as is humanly possible.

[Tennesseer]

[Tennesseer]

Revised Citizenship Test Requires Immigrants To Name Every U.S. State Where They Not Welcome

WASHINGTON—In an update that will require those sitting for the exam to demonstrate the full range of skills necessary to take part in American civic life, government officials announced Monday that a newly revised citizenship test asks immigrants to name every U.S. state where they’re not welcome. “We want to ensure our newest citizens know what they’re getting into, so going forward, they’ll need to display a deep understanding of which parts of the country it’s really not safe for them to live in or maybe even visit,” said Ur Jaddou, director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, who explained that after pointing on a map to the places where they’ll be met with cold shoulders, veiled threats, or open hostility, test takers will also be expected to detail the gross misconceptions held about people of their ethnic origin. “These immigrants love America, but before they participate in our democracy, it’s important they familiarize themselves with all the racial slurs they are likely to hear. What’s truly remarkable is that by the time they attend their naturalization ceremony, they’ll know more about America’s xenophobia than most natural-born citizens!” Jaddou confirmed that the test will also quiz immigrants on the process through which a bill intended to strip them of their newfound citizenship becomes a law.

Revised Citizenship Test Requires Immigrants To Name Every U.S. State Where They Not Welcome