The border is not open

[Tennesseer]

Dec 19, 2023 14:58:02 GMT -5 Opti said:

Dec 19, 2023 12:45:09 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Bless your heart. Congratualatons-you have fed another reason for MAGA cult members to vote for trump. Melania has earned the scorn in the article you disagree with if for nothing else having said the below this past May:

“He has my support, and we look forward to restoring hope for the future and leading America with love and strength.”

Melania does not live in a bubble. Melania has seen the criminal behavior of her husband. Melania has heard every vile thing trump has said about women, people of Color and other minorities in our country. Melania has heard every thing trump has said about seeking revenge against everyone who spoke badly of him. Yet by you stating Melania does not deserve ridicule, MAGA woman presume that if Melania is fine with trump then so should they be.

Melania should have kept her mouth shut.

I doubt MAGAs are trolling our board looking for reasons to vote for Trump. They are MAGAs which means they already have voted for him and plan to again.    I think 1 out of a null set is still zero.

I think Trump is a clear and present danger, but writing about his wife instead of him seems lazy and well RW article like. I don't really feel the need to watch all the speech, but I got to 3 minutes and heard nothing crazy or out of line. We knew He and she have one standard for immigrants when it involves them and another when it does not. Writing an article with the wandering connections of FOX or Sean Hannity is an ugh for me.

Nothing new is in the article except that Melania spoke at this event. 

There is a reason Ivanka has disappeared.

[Spellbound454]

Dec 19, 2023 16:28:39 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Dec 19, 2023 5:11:51 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Most western countries are having problems with illegal immigration.

Some are refugees, of course, and we would offer them asylum but many are economic migrants.

Those in the coastal towns and regions of high concentrations,  are feeling overwhelmed and fed up.

As they are in the rest of Europe

It will be  a high priority election issue next year.

not really.

many Western countries are CLAIMING to have problems with "illegal" immigration.

whether those claims are true or not is worth examining.

Yes really, that's why they are tightening their borders. www.reuters.com/world/europe/european-countries-tighten-borders-2023-11-24/
Australia have always had problems but they have a greater control on things.,

None have an extreme right wing government (apart from Hungary) and none are fascist, racist or anything else.

Its not unusual to feel overwhelmed in some of these places, as resources and infrastructure are not infinite.

[Spellbound454]

Where is Melania on the campaign trail anyway?
Has anyone asked her if she fancies being in the White House again?
My guess is probably not.

[thyme4change]

Dec 19, 2023 17:26:20 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Where is Melania on the campaign trail anyway?
Has anyone asked her if she fancies being in the White House again?
My guess is probably not.

Melania was the worst First Lady. She did nothing.

[djAdvocate]

Dec 19, 2023 17:24:05 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Dec 19, 2023 16:28:39 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

not really.

many Western countries are CLAIMING to have problems with "illegal" immigration.

whether those claims are true or not is worth examining.

Yes really, that's why they are tightening their borders.

if you say so.

i am not going to argue with you.  i will simply say this:

the political situation is shifting to the right globally.  that might have to do with immigration, or it might not.  history will tell us.  

your perspective is no better than mine, Spellbound454

[djAdvocate]

i want to add one final point of frustration.

countries may or may not have a problem with UNDOCUMENTED persons.
but they are not "illegal" by the standards of international law.
and when people start arguing with me about this, they have already
lost the debate. the just don't know they have lost it.

that is why i am not going to argue with you or anyone else that
persists in using this term. it is not correct.

that FACT makes me doubt anyone who says they have a problem,
other than perhaps xenophobia, racism, or something far more personal
than immigration.

NOTE TO EVERYONE ON THE BOARD: i am not calling you any of these things.
i am saying that this argument OFTEN has an undertone of these things
which makes me distrust the sincerity/realism of the concerns.

[Opti]

Dec 19, 2023 17:26:20 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Where is Melania on the campaign trail anyway?
Has anyone asked her if she fancies being in the White House again?
My guess is probably not.

She does not want to be the First Lady. She wants her private glamourous life. 

[ripvanwinkle]

Another milestone for the administration. Estimated 14,000 undocumented ''asylum'' seekers ( read illegals) flood Eagle Pass TX. The largest in history. www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/completely-overrun-us-migrant-crisis-passes-horror-milestone-as-southern-border-sees-highest-single-day-total-ever/ar-AA1lLdQW?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=5f15f576add14f3f963afeb9f5beb623&ei=11

[Opti]

Aren't they coming in waves to many countries to up their odds of success to get in?

[Spellbound454]

 NOTE TO EVERYONE ON THE BOARD: i am not calling you any of these things.

i am saying that this argument OFTEN has an undertone of these things

which makes me distrust the sincerity/realism of the concerns.

Thats what your country are doing.....

You have to put up with immigration otherwise you are a "racist xenophobe"

If you are white, you are privileged racist...... unless you self flagellate and bath in "white guilt".

You are the sons of  "evil racist xenophobes"

Your country was built by "evil racist xenophobes"

If you think any different to this you are a "fascist nazi"

and you are raising children to be neurotic, guilt laden. pertpetual victims.


Such is the woke doctrine you seem have swallowed hook, line and sinker.

(We have it too btw, but not so pronounced)

and its complete nonsense.

[tbop77]

Dec 20, 2023 1:43:12 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Another milestone for the administration. Estimated 14,000 undocumented ''asylum'' seekers ( read illegals) flood Eagle Pass TX. The largest in history. www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/completely-overrun-us-migrant-crisis-passes-horror-milestone-as-southern-border-sees-highest-single-day-total-ever/ar-AA1lLdQW?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=5f15f576add14f3f963afeb9f5beb623&ei=11

Meanwhile:  Republicans cannot compromise, as usual, on any solution and still cling to building the wall.  


LUKEVILLE, Ariz. (NewsNation) — NewsNation cameras were rolling when human smugglers led a family through a hole they cut in the southern border wall.



In Lukeville, we watched as one of the three criminal cartels’ SUVs pulled up to the border wall. Once stopped, eight people poured out of the vehicle and were escorted to the wall by smugglers.



The migrants then crossed into the U.S. through a hole cut by the cartel smugglers using power tools. The immigrants said they were from Peru — an older man with the group only had one leg and needed help getting through the breaching point.

www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/immigration/border-coverage/smugglers-border-wall-taunt-newsnation-crew/

[Opti]

Dec 20, 2023 4:29:22 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

 NOTE TO EVERYONE ON THE BOARD: i am not calling you any of these things.

i am saying that this argument OFTEN has an undertone of these things

which makes me distrust the sincerity/realism of the concerns.

Thats what your country are doing.....

You have to put up with immigration otherwise you are a "racist xenophobe"

If you are white, you are privileged racist...... unless you self flagellate and bath in "white guilt".

You are the sons of  "evil racist xenophobes"

Your country was built by "evil racist xenophobes"

If you think any different to this you are a "fascist nazi"

and you are raising children to be neurotic, guilt laden. pertpetual victims.


Such is the woke doctrine you seem have swallowed hook, line and sinker.

(We have it too btw, but not so pronounced)

and its complete nonsense.

Spell what you wrote sounds like a press release from a right wing taking head, media outlet, or PAC to suck up donation dollars.

This is not what centrists or liberals think. What you wrote is how conservatives have decided to interpret it. 


The bolded is pure right wing fantasy talking points. It is OK to feel guilty about things you did not do as you process it. Do you think kids have it any easier processing dad is cheating on mom or one of their uncles becomes a known pedophile?

IMO you need to accept what is and what has been. That you cannot change so why feel guilt about it at all, once you understand the truth of it? The future is yet to be written. I used to think conservatives were really individual boot strappers. Then came along someone who campaigns as a perpetual victim and his supporters embrace him because they believe they are perpetual victims too. Here in the US the groundwork for that nonsense was started by RW media and talking heads before Trump even started to campaign in 2015. The blame lies with the conservative seed sowers. The blames lies with those who keep these lies alive and spread bigger ones.

[Opti]

Dec 20, 2023 6:06:46 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Dec 20, 2023 1:43:12 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Another milestone for the administration. Estimated 14,000 undocumented ''asylum'' seekers ( read illegals) flood Eagle Pass TX. The largest in history. www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/completely-overrun-us-migrant-crisis-passes-horror-milestone-as-southern-border-sees-highest-single-day-total-ever/ar-AA1lLdQW?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=5f15f576add14f3f963afeb9f5beb623&ei=11

Meanwhile:  Republicans cannot compromise, as usual, on any solution and still cling to building the wall.  


LUKEVILLE, Ariz. (NewsNation) — NewsNation cameras were rolling when human smugglers led a family through a hole they cut in the southern border wall.



In Lukeville, we watched as one of the three criminal cartels’ SUVs pulled up to the border wall. Once stopped, eight people poured out of the vehicle and were escorted to the wall by smugglers.



The migrants then crossed into the U.S. through a hole cut by the cartel smugglers using power tools. The immigrants said they were from Peru — an older man with the group only had one leg and needed help getting through the breaching point.

www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/immigration/border-coverage/smugglers-border-wall-taunt-newsnation-crew/

They like to watch.    And Monday morning quarterback.

What many people do not know, and I have no idea of the extent of it, once the human smugglers deliver these folks from Peru to the US ... their payment to the smugglers may not be over. This is part of the human slavery angle that plays out in the US and other countries as human smugglers make money off desperate people. 

[Opti]

Dec 19, 2023 16:51:51 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 19, 2023 14:58:02 GMT -5 Opti said:

I doubt MAGAs are trolling our board looking for reasons to vote for Trump. They are MAGAs which means they already have voted for him and plan to again.    I think 1 out of a null set is still zero.

I think Trump is a clear and present danger, but writing about his wife instead of him seems lazy and well RW article like. I don't really feel the need to watch all the speech, but I got to 3 minutes and heard nothing crazy or out of line. We knew He and she have one standard for immigrants when it involves them and another when it does not. Writing an article with the wandering connections of FOX or Sean Hannity is an ugh for me.

Nothing new is in the article except that Melania spoke at this event. 

There is a reason Ivanka has disappeared.

I know. Even though Melania is not divorcing DJT, she may not do any campaign events at all. She is not at the rallies. She was asked by someone who knew her from her time in office. The immigration ceremony was made public, but by who. What for? Have you answered those Qs? Did you listen to the speech?

Even if Melania got special treatment to get her VISA through it still needed to ho through all the steps and approvals. It is not quick. For those immigrants, many probably waited ten or more years for that day, and yes I know Melania's is shorter.

And yes, DJT or his campaign might have taken advantage of the event for their own purposes. Their choice not hers. She does not like press. She did not pursue magazine covers even though her friend and former staff member told her how to do it. I think my point evades you. I wish the above would help but it is unlikely you read the Stephanie Grisham's book. I recommend reading it among others.

[Opti]

Ivanka is not there because of how her dad acted on J6. Ivanka was a paid advisor to the President. Melania was the least involved first lady in my lifetime (60 some years). Melania knows she is arm candy.

Ivanka though has a rich husband who also acted officially on behalf of President Trump and feels it is safer to not be associated at this time.

[Spellbound454]

Its not off any website, I have just written it myself. but ;-

 IMO you need to accept what is and what has been. That you cannot change so why feel guilt about it at all, once you understand the truth of it? The future is yet to be written.

I totally agree with this

but even on here, I have been asked to apologise for something I have never heard of...... because someone has a bee-in-their-bonnet and thinks I'm responsible for the harm they feel.

 . Then came along someone who campaigns as a perpetual victim and his supporters embrace him because they believe they are perpetual victims too.

and in the minds of said "perpetual victims" .... all this banning and threatening has played right in to their hands.... he is their hero, for going up against the liberal elite.

As for "perpetual victims" per se..... moaning, whining and feeling entitled, seems to be the new cultural norm. 

Here in the US the groundwork for that nonsense was started by RW media and talking heads before Trump even started to campaign in 2015.

Thats a difference of opinion. I think it was started by the far left in the 1960s... and has reared its head a few times since then.

For some folk, struggling to pay their bills.... they are thinking "hang on, I'm not responsible for all the evils of the world"
"Im not going to stand here,  and be blamed ....whilst you fail to deliver on the prosperity that we were promised"

and in walks Trump.... who just tells people whatever they want to here,

 The blames lies with those who keep these lies alive and spread bigger ones.

Well..... Its always someone else's fault.

That appears to be another of the new societal norms. No accountability.

[andi9899]

Dec 20, 2023 4:29:22 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

 NOTE TO EVERYONE ON THE BOARD: i am not calling you any of these things.

i am saying that this argument OFTEN has an undertone of these things

which makes me distrust the sincerity/realism of the concerns.

Thats what your country are doing.....

You have to put up with immigration otherwise you are a "racist xenophobe"

If you are white, you are privileged racist...... unless you self flagellate and bath in "white guilt".

You are the sons of  "evil racist xenophobes"

Your country was built by "evil racist xenophobes"

If you think any different to this you are a "fascist nazi"

and you are raising children to be neurotic, guilt laden. pertpetual victims.


Such is the woke doctrine you seem have swallowed hook, line and sinker.

(We have it too btw, but not so pronounced)

and its complete nonsense.

America is on stolen land that belongs to indigenous people. It's no secret that it was stolen by racist white people and has been historically run by racist white people. They brought slaves here and the racism continued. Many of the systems we have in place are rooted in racism. It's a fact, not an opinion.

I don't think teaching our children American history is "woke". You can't solve the problem you can't identify. The facts don't paint a good picture of white people because historically they weren't good people. Does that mean all white people are racist? Absolutely not. However, we as people need to evolve from what our ancestors were like if we are to have a just society. Recognizing that white people have white privilege isn't painting them as villains, it's stating fact. We can't improve racism if we fail to acknowledge that it exists.

[andi9899]

Dec 20, 2023 8:38:26 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Its not off any website, I have just written it myself. but ;-

 IMO you need to accept what is and what has been. That you cannot change so why feel guilt about it at all, once you understand the truth of it? The future is yet to be written.

I totally agree with this

but even on here, I have been asked to apologise for something I have never heard of...... because someone has a bee-in-their-bonnet and thinks I'm responsible for the harm they feel.

 . Then came along someone who campaigns as a perpetual victim and his supporters embrace him because they believe they are perpetual victims too.

and in the minds of said "perpetual victims" .... all this banning and threatening has played right in to their hands.... he is their hero, for going up against the liberal elite.

As for "perpetual victims" per se..... moaning, whining and feeling entitled, seems to be the new cultural norm. 

Here in the US the groundwork for that nonsense was started by RW media and talking heads before Trump even started to campaign in 2015.

Thats a difference of opinion. I think it was started by the far left in the 1960s... and has reared its head a few times since then.

For some folk, struggling to pay their bills.... they are thinking "hang on, I'm not responsible for all the evils of the world"
"Im not going to stand here,  and be blamed ....whilst you fail to deliver on the prosperity that we were promised"

and in walks Trump.... who just tells people whatever they want to here,

 The blames lies with those who keep these lies alive and spread bigger ones.

Well..... Its always someone else's fault.

That appears to be another of the new societal norms. No accountability.

A few points from this.


1. Who asked you to apologize for something you've never heard of? Can we get an example?

2. Who is moaning and whining? Earlier you said we are raising guilt laden kids, and now we aren't holding them accountable. Which is it.

It reminds me of how conservatives like to say in one breath that Biden is unable to form a sentence due to dementia and then accusing him of running a crime family in the next. Which is it? Both can't be true.

[Spellbound454]

  You can't solve the problem you can't identify.

What exactly do you think you are solving?

This doctrine is a disaster.

You cannot continue to demonize normal working people..... or they are going to turn away and look for someone, who does promise the things they want to make their lives better

and you open the door to all kinds of horribleness.

[Spellbound454]

 It reminds me of how conservatives like to say in one breath that Biden is unable to form a sentence due to dementia and then accusing him of running a crime family in the next. Which is it? Both can't be true.

I'm impartial and not American, as you know..... (though I do understand politics) Just trying to wade through some of the BS.

On a serious note, If you want to win the election you cant keep Biden

A 34% approval rating is not enough.

[andi9899]

Dec 20, 2023 9:44:32 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

  You can't solve the problem you can't identify.

What exactly do you think you are solving?

This doctrine is a disaster.

You cannot continue to demonize normal working people..... or they are going to turn away and look for someone, who does promise the things they want to make their lives better

and you open the door to all kinds of horribleness.

Hate. Obviously it's not ever going away, but why not raise our children to be more tolerant of those who are different from you. This goes for race, sexual orientation, gender identity, etc.

Do you know who is demoralizing normal hardworking people? White people. Who are the people screaming at service workers and getting up in their faces and assaulting them? White people. There's the guy that ordered a peanut butter shake and then freaked out trashing the ice crem shop when his son with a peanut allergy had a reaction. What about the lady that freaked out when McDonald's put too much ketchup on her burger even though she asked for extra ketchup. White people.

I whole heartedly think that if your political representative doesn't deliver what was promised, you should vote for someone who will. This is why DT should never hold public office again.

[andi9899]

Dec 20, 2023 9:52:05 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

 It reminds me of how conservatives like to say in one breath that Biden is unable to form a sentence due to dementia and then accusing him of running a crime family in the next. Which is it? Both can't be true.

I'm impartial and not American, as you know..... (though I do understand politics) Just trying to wade through some of the BS.

On a serious note, If you want to win the election you cant keep Biden

A 34% approval rating is not enough.

I thin he'll do ok. Look at the republican candidates. One will most likely be in jail come election day. The others just suck. I think Christie probably has the best shot, but I don’t think he'll win.

[Tennesseer]

Texas Republican Blames Trump For Border 'Mess'

Texas Republican Rep. Chip Roy recently placed some blame on former President Donald Trump for the current "mess" at the U.S.-Mexico border.

During an interview broadcast by CNN on Tuesday, Roy spoke about Trump refusing to attend the string of Republican primary debates and praised Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis for his leadership in the state.

"President Trump also failed to actually fully secure the border," Roy told CNN's Kaitlan Collins. "If he had worked with conservatives to get bills passed in 2018 and 2019, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in right now."

Data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection shows that there have been more than 2.4 million migrant encounters at southern borders across the U.S. so far in 2023. This number is an increase from the previous two fiscal years, which recorded 2.3 million in 2022 and 1.7 million in 2021.

Migrant encounters are defined by the agency as the total number of people apprehended, deemed inadmissible and processed for deportation.

Roy went on to speak about recent migrant apprehensions at the U.S.-Mexico border and said "we should have stopped this years ago, President Trump could have done that if he led Congress to get something done. That didn't happen."

Rest of article here: Texas Republican Blames Trump For Border 'Mess'

[djAdvocate]

Dec 20, 2023 1:43:12 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Another milestone for the administration. Estimated 14,000 undocumented ''asylum'' seekers ( read illegals) flood Eagle Pass TX. The largest in history. www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/completely-overrun-us-migrant-crisis-passes-horror-milestone-as-southern-border-sees-highest-single-day-total-ever/ar-AA1lLdQW?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=5f15f576add14f3f963afeb9f5beb623&ei=11

i appreciate your evolution on the non parenthetical portion of the post.

you can lose the quotations.  they are perfectly legal immigrants until their standing has been determined.  just as your ancestors (probably) were.

[djAdvocate]

Dec 20, 2023 4:29:22 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

 NOTE TO EVERYONE ON THE BOARD: i am not calling you any of these things.

i am saying that this argument OFTEN has an undertone of these things

which makes me distrust the sincerity/realism of the concerns.

Thats what your country are doing.....

You have to put up with immigration otherwise you are a "racist xenophobe"

what a bunch of crap.  i never said you were a racist xenophobe.  i never called RIP or scgal that, either.

let me try again:

you are using the LANGUAGE of racists and xenophobes when you call asylum seekers "illegal".  they are not illegal until their status is determined.  WHEN that happens, they are either accepted for reasons of asylum or they are DEPORTED.  and yes, this is precisely what the US system does.

what rip and others on the right are essentially claiming is that we are just letting people in without any vetting or inspection whatsoever, and that there are tons of terrorists wandering around because of it, and that is ALSO complete crap.  here are the facts: there is a process in place, and it is strained, but working.  of the 14000 that rip was complaining about, 13000 will be deported, on average.  the other 1000 will be given asylum.  and that is precisely as it should be.  that would result in a 0.1% net migration rate, which is pretty much exactly what we have had for decades.

in the US, this problem is truly a nothingburger.  but that won't stop fascists and their enablers from using it unplug our Democracy.  here is wishing the UK a better fate.

if you insist on dragging me back into this discussion, i am going to have to block you.  i have asked you to understand what i am saying, and you are now escalating this into some sort of personal attack which i have clearly told you i am NOT doing.

it will be sad watching the US fall into ruin over this nothingburger.  hopefully those that enabled it will feel the pain of that loss.

[djAdvocate]

Dec 20, 2023 4:29:22 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

You are the sons of  "evil racist xenophobes"

Your country was built by "evil racist xenophobes"

If you think any different to this you are a "fascist nazi"

and you are raising children to be neurotic, guilt laden. pertpetual victims.

love the drama.

ok, first of all, you might be right.  my family has been here for nearly 400 years.  they were probably religious zealots.  dunno.  might have been racists.  dunno.  they definitely benefited from racism.  no doubt whatsoever.

the LEAST we can do for immigrants is acknowledge those simple truths.  the LEAST we can do is recognize the real suffering of immigrants and give them a CHANCE (however small) of navigating our asylum system.  but conservatives don't even want that, apparently.  and yes, i find that appalling.

I GOT MINE!  FUCK YOU!!!!

that is how i read that.  so, you can add avaricious to all of your adjectives.  it fits.

i do, however, take offense to your last sentence.  my son has no guilt whatsoever.  he does, however, recognize exactly how fortunate he is to be white, male, and rich.

[djAdvocate]

Dec 20, 2023 12:01:57 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Dec 20, 2023 9:52:05 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

I'm impartial and not American, as you know..... (though I do understand politics) Just trying to wade through some of the BS.

On a serious note, If you want to win the election you cant keep Biden

A 34% approval rating is not enough.

I thin he'll do ok. Look at the republican candidates. One will most likely be in jail come election day. The others just suck. I think Christie probably has the best shot, but I don’t think he'll win.

don't worry.  the Chinese and Burista will help him win.  just listen to Sydney Powell!

[djAdvocate]

Dec 20, 2023 9:44:32 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

  You can't solve the problem you can't identify.

What exactly do you think you are solving?

This doctrine is a disaster.

You cannot continue to demonize normal working people..... or they are going to turn away and look for someone, who does promise the things they want to make their lives better

and you open the door to all kinds of horribleness.

ok, this is maybe the ugliest post you have written.

i hope you were being sarcastic.

immigrants ARE "normal working people".
if you think otherwise, please explain what you meant by that.

[Opti]

As for "perpetual victims" per se..... moaning, whining and feeling entitled, seems to be the new cultural norm.
or

Spell, this is a good way to say you do not listen to center or center left media. I admit I avoid most right wing media because I dn't wamt to tolerate or listen to the lies of the day. 

[Spellbound454]

 you are using the LANGUAGE of racists and xenophobes when you call asylum seekers "illegal". they are not illegal until their status is determined. WHEN that happens, they are either accepted for reasons of asylum or they are DEPORTED. and yes, this is precisely what the US system does.

Seems Countries are different, They are called illegal immigrants over hear if they enter the country illegally... ie by boat.

Asylum seekers, may or may not have entered the Country illegally but they are seeking asylum.

and immigrants are people have come from a different country but have granted nationality.

that there are tons of terrorists wandering around

I don't know if the US is the same but they have said this week that there are people here who have been sent to destabilise the country.

That's not me being xenophobic, that's our Government speaking with the backing of intelligence services.

"In his speech in Rome, he warned that “enemy” states were deliberately “driving people to our shores to try and destabilise our societies”
.www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/rishi-sunak-says-migrants-threaten-to-overwhelm-uk/ar-AA1lB3UX