Hunter Biden indicted

[moon/Laura]

Sept 14, 2023 22:44:46 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Yee Haw! Saddle up boys. We now have real live rodeo starting. Get your tickets for the grandstand seating. Roping the truth doggies. Laughing at the clowns. Timed barrel racing around the arena to beat the statute of limitations.

All joking aside, this is years overdue. What took so long? Why is it just the gun charge? Why isn't he being charged Under the FARA act?

"FARA requires certain agents of foreign principals who are engaged in political activities or other activities specified under the statute to make periodic public disclosure of their relationship with the foreign principal, as well as activities, receipts and disbursements in support of those activities".

If he got monies from foreign officials he needed to register as a lobbyist. Then he would have had to disclose where all the millions came from and where it went. Oh wait he's Biden's son. Untouchable. Privileged. Two tier system of American justice. Laws for thee but not for me.

I didn't think it was possible for my eyes to roll that far back in my head, yet here we are.....

[thyme4change]

Sept 15, 2023 12:02:51 GMT -5 Icelandic Woman said:

Sept 15, 2023 7:22:35 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

mark my words- McCarthy can't win anything without Democrats.

with that comment in mind, does ANYONE think that the impeachment crap is going ANYWHERE?
i would be slightly surprised if committees could even be formed.  i would be even more surprised if
it ever reached the House floor.  if it does, McCarthy is doomed.

I am still at a loss to understand WTF are they trying to impeach him for?
Being Hunter's Dad?
Having a stutter disability?
Being able to ride bicycle circles around Trump literally and by every measure of competence and intelligence?
Having an intelligent wife who still has sex with him?

They say that he was involved in Hunter’s business dealings and used his position to get Hunter millions. Their proof is that he met some of Hunter’s colleagues, shook their hands and had small talk with them.

[happyhoix]

Sept 15, 2023 17:32:28 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Sept 15, 2023 12:02:51 GMT -5 Icelandic Woman said:

I am still at a loss to understand WTF are they trying to impeach him for?
Being Hunter's Dad?
Having a stutter disability?
Being able to ride bicycle circles around Trump literally and by every measure of competence and intelligence?
Having an intelligent wife who still has sex with him?

They say that he was involved in Hunter’s business dealings and used his position to get Hunter millions. Their proof is that he met some of Hunter’s colleagues, shook their hands and had small talk with them.

They also claim that Hunter asked his dad to get a Ukrainian DA fired. Hunter worked for Busima at the time, and the DA was investigating Busima, so it was useful to get daddy Biden to put pressure on the Ukraine gov’t to fire him. They even have a video of daddy Biden gloating about the DA being gone. 

Except if you check the time line, VP Biden put pressure on the Ukraine government to get rid of the DA (who was notoriously corrupt) way before Hunter even went to work for Bursima. 

Like all the other ‘proof’ the GOP claims to have, it’s as sturdy as wet tissue paper. 

[tallguy]

Sept 15, 2023 20:12:00 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Sept 15, 2023 17:32:28 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

They say that he was involved in Hunter’s business dealings and used his position to get Hunter millions. Their proof is that he met some of Hunter’s colleagues, shook their hands and had small talk with them.

They also claim that Hunter asked his dad to get a Ukrainian DA fired. Hunter worked for Busima at the time, and the DA was investigating Busima, so it was useful to get daddy Biden to put pressure on the Ukraine gov’t to fire him. They even have a video of daddy Biden gloating about the DA being gone. 

Except if you check the time line, VP Biden put pressure on the Ukraine government to get rid of the DA (who was notoriously corrupt) way before Hunter even went to work for Bursima. 

Like all the other ‘proof’ the GOP claims to have, it’s as sturdy as wet tissue paper. 

So are their backbones.  And moral fibers.

[djAdvocate]

Sept 15, 2023 17:32:28 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Sept 15, 2023 12:02:51 GMT -5 Icelandic Woman said:

I am still at a loss to understand WTF are they trying to impeach him for?
Being Hunter's Dad?
Having a stutter disability?
Being able to ride bicycle circles around Trump literally and by every measure of competence and intelligence?
Having an intelligent wife who still has sex with him?

They say that he was involved in Hunter’s business dealings and used his position to get Hunter millions. Their proof is that he met some of Hunter’s colleagues, shook their hands and had small talk with them.

....all of which is completely legal.

i think the GOP need to come up with a better definition of "responsible".  in the music business, it is common to "name drop".  you might even invite a potential band mate to a party by a rock star, if you happen to have that connection.  are you using the rock star to influence others?  of course you are.  does the rock star have ANYTHING to do with that, in terms of being RESPONSIBLE for that inflience?  not likely.  it is likely that the rock star has no idea what you are doing, and would probably disapprove if he did.

that is how i see this situation.  Hunter is reckless, careless, etc.  is Joe?  not an ounce of it, from what i can observe.

[djAdvocate]

Asked during the daily briefing if the president would pardon or commute his son's sentence if he gets convicted on the gun charges against him, Jean-Pierre told reporters he would not. It's the first time the White House has explicitly said a potential pardon is not on the table following Hunter Biden's indictment this week.

imagine that.

[scgal]

Sept 15, 2023 6:24:55 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Sept 14, 2023 13:35:56 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

It's only a huge deal because of who his father is. He's a private citizen, so at the end of the day, it doesn't matter because he's never held public office.

moreover, as a first time offender, he is going to skate, in all likelihood.

this whole things is a mountain of nothing.  but whatever keeps the trolls happy, i guess?

Here is my problem with it or at least people on this board. With all the talk about ease of gun ownership, lack of responsibility when there is a shooting let alone with a mass shooting. Here is a person who LIED to get a gun you would think these same people would want him to get the max throw him under the bus. No all they can do is act like it was no big deal. Bunch of hypocrites. 

[djAdvocate]

Sept 16, 2023 6:40:38 GMT -5 scgal said:

Sept 15, 2023 6:24:55 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

moreover, as a first time offender, he is going to skate, in all likelihood.

this whole things is a mountain of nothing.  but whatever keeps the trolls happy, i guess?

Here is my problem with it or at least people on this board. With all the talk about ease of gun ownership, lack of responsibility when there is a shooting let alone with a mass shooting. Here is a person who LIED to get a gun you would think these same people would want him to get the max throw him under the bus. No all they can do is act like it was no big deal. Bunch of hypocrites. 

it was recently brought up by some left wing pundit (don't ask, i wasn't paying close attention) that there are MANY states who have basically legislated the federal government out of law enforcement when it comes to gun rights.  in fact, if memory serves, the very first piece of legislation enacted by the first Trump Congress was to make it possible for mentally ill people to own guns (which is, in fact, against another federal statute).  

so, i am thinking that this is a weird case for 2A folks to get behind.  if it were Don, Jr, they would be decrying the DOJ and the Biden administration, and marching around with AR-15's.

[Opti]

Sept 16, 2023 6:40:38 GMT -5 scgal said:

Sept 15, 2023 6:24:55 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

moreover, as a first time offender, he is going to skate, in all likelihood.

this whole things is a mountain of nothing.  but whatever keeps the trolls happy, i guess?

Here is my problem with it or at least people on this board. With all the talk about ease of gun ownership, lack of responsibility when there is a shooting let alone with a mass shooting. Here is a person who LIED to get a gun you would think these same people would want him to get the max throw him under the bus. No all they can do is act like it was no big deal. Bunch of hypocrites. 

Yes, not for irresponsible gun ownership, but Hunter did not shoot anyone, and the gun was taken from him before even two weeks elapsed. Not sure why that needs or requires a maximum sentence.

www.cnn.com/2023/09/14/politics/hunter-biden/index.html

Lowell defended his client in a statement earlier in the day, saying, “Hunter Biden possessing an unloaded gun for 11 days was not a threat to public safety, but a prosecutor, with all the power imaginable, bending to political pressure presents a grave threat to our system of justice.”

[happyhoix]

Sept 16, 2023 6:40:38 GMT -5 scgal said:

Sept 15, 2023 6:24:55 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

moreover, as a first time offender, he is going to skate, in all likelihood.

this whole things is a mountain of nothing.  but whatever keeps the trolls happy, i guess?

Here is my problem with it or at least people on this board. With all the talk about ease of gun ownership, lack of responsibility when there is a shooting let alone with a mass shooting. Here is a person who LIED to get a gun you would think these same people would want him to get the max throw him under the bus. No all they can do is act like it was no big deal. Bunch of hypocrites. 

Not if you look at how this law has been enforced. 

No one gets charged just with lying about being a drug addict while purchasing a gun. They throw this charge in when someone commits a crime with a gun - adding in extra charges and years.  To try to demonstrate they aren’t playing favorites with Hunter, they’ve charged him with something almost no one else ever gets charged with. 

And speaking of hypocritical, it’s pretty evident that Don Jr and his girl friend fuel their crazy ass public speeches with some kind of drug - and Don Jr is well known as a big game hunter and gun buff. If we really want to start locking up people who buy guns while an addict, we should also be looking at him - but no one will, because they don’t enforce that law unless Don used one of his guns to shoot a person. 

Yes Hunter was a drug addict, a screw up, a bad dad, and he used his dad’s name and position to make business deals for himself. Does he deserve to go to jail for 10 years for a crime no one else gets indicted for? No. But I doubt he will. This is his first offense. He’s cleaned his act up (so he says) and as far as I can tell has taken up painting while staying out of trouble. I’m afraid the GOP is going to have to provide actual proof that he did something worse - one of those sex trafficking charges, or being on the Chinese payroll, or whatever - to get enough time to keep the GOP happy. They’ve been investigating Hunter for what, five years now? You’d think they’d have produced that proof and charged him by now. Wonder what they’re waiting for? 

[billisonboard]

Sept 16, 2023 6:40:38 GMT -5 scgal said:

Sept 15, 2023 6:24:55 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

moreover, as a first time offender, he is going to skate, in all likelihood.

this whole things is a mountain of nothing.  but whatever keeps the trolls happy, i guess?

Here is my problem with it or at least people on this board. With all the talk about ease of gun ownership, lack of responsibility when there is a shooting let alone with a mass shooting. Here is a person who LIED to get a gun you would think these same people would want him to get the max throw him under the bus. No all they can do is act like it was no big deal. Bunch of hypocrites. 

Here is my problem with not sticking with a diversion program:

The United States leads the world in total number of people incarcerated, with more than 2 million prisoners nationwide (per data released in October 2021 by World Prison Brief). This number is equivalent to roughly 25% of the world's total prison population and leads to an incarceration rate of 629 people per 100,000—the highest rate in the world. link

[pulmonarymd]

Hunter should get a sentence in line with what other defendants get. No more, no less. If he gets a harsher sentence, I expect the NRA to defend him since they have spoken out against this law.

If he gets the book thrown at him, I expect prosecutors in “law and order” districts to do the same to everyone who has broken a gun law

[Tennesseer]

Sept 16, 2023 6:40:38 GMT -5 scgal said:

Sept 15, 2023 6:24:55 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

moreover, as a first time offender, he is going to skate, in all likelihood.

this whole things is a mountain of nothing.  but whatever keeps the trolls happy, i guess?

Here is my problem with it or at least people on this board. With all the talk about ease of gun ownership, lack of responsibility when there is a shooting let alone with a mass shooting. Here is a person who LIED to get a gun you would think these same people would want him to get the max throw him under the bus. No all they can do is act like it was no big deal. Bunch of hypocrites. 

A conservative appeals court just ruled against the federal gun law used to charge Hunter Biden

The day before Hunter Biden was indicted, a conservative-led appeals panel ruled that the federal gun law used to charge Biden was unconstitutional when it was applied in a previous case.

The three-judge panel on the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals sided against the law in a case involving Patrick Daniels, a Mississippi man who was convicted and sentenced to prison for possessing a firearm while being a marijuana user.

The law in question prohibits anyone who is an "unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance" from owning a firearm.

But the appeals court panel ruled that it was too broad when it was used in Daniels' case and tossed out his conviction.

The appeals court's ruling, which applies to Mississippi, Texas, and Louisiana, came after the Supreme Court issued a landmark decision last year striking down a longstanding public carry law in New York and dramatically expanding Second Amendment rights.

Wednesday's ruling cited that decision — N.Y. State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen — when tossing out Daniels' conviction, saying it was inconsistent with the US's "historical tradition of firearm regulation."

"Our history and tradition may support some limits on an intoxicated person's right to carry a weapon, but it does not justify disarming a sober citizen based exclusively on his past drug usage," Smith wrote. "Nor do more generalized traditions of disarming dangerous persons support this restriction on nonviolent drug users."

Rest of article here: A conservative appeals court just ruled against the federal gun law used to charge Hunter Biden

[pulmonarymd]

Well I guess the courts got that one wrong. I want to hear conservatives come to hunters defense now. The NRA needs to defend him

[scgal]

Sept 16, 2023 10:10:16 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Sept 16, 2023 6:40:38 GMT -5 scgal said:

Here is my problem with it or at least people on this board. With all the talk about ease of gun ownership, lack of responsibility when there is a shooting let alone with a mass shooting. Here is a person who LIED to get a gun you would think these same people would want him to get the max throw him under the bus. No all they can do is act like it was no big deal. Bunch of hypocrites. 

A conservative appeals court just ruled against the federal gun law used to charge Hunter Biden

The day before Hunter Biden was indicted, a conservative-led appeals panel ruled that the federal gun law used to charge Biden was unconstitutional when it was applied in a previous case.

The three-judge panel on the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals sided against the law in a case involving Patrick Daniels, a Mississippi man who was convicted and sentenced to prison for possessing a firearm while being a marijuana user.

The law in question prohibits anyone who is an "unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance" from owning a firearm.

But the appeals court panel ruled that it was too broad when it was used in Daniels' case and tossed out his conviction.

The appeals court's ruling, which applies to Mississippi, Texas, and Louisiana, came after the Supreme Court issued a landmark decision last year striking down a longstanding public carry law in New York and dramatically expanding Second Amendment rights.

Wednesday's ruling cited that decision — N.Y. State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen — when tossing out Daniels' conviction, saying it was inconsistent with the US's "historical tradition of firearm regulation."

"Our history and tradition may support some limits on an intoxicated person's right to carry a weapon, but it does not justify disarming a sober citizen based exclusively on his past drug usage," Smith wrote. "Nor do more generalized traditions of disarming dangerous persons support this restriction on nonviolent drug users."

Rest of article here: A conservative appeals court just ruled against the federal gun law used to charge Hunter Biden

I would be different if he told the truth and was denied but he lied. 

[moon/Laura]

Sept 16, 2023 13:10:59 GMT -5 scgal said:

Sept 16, 2023 10:10:16 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

A conservative appeals court just ruled against the federal gun law used to charge Hunter Biden

The day before Hunter Biden was indicted, a conservative-led appeals panel ruled that the federal gun law used to charge Biden was unconstitutional when it was applied in a previous case.

The three-judge panel on the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals sided against the law in a case involving Patrick Daniels, a Mississippi man who was convicted and sentenced to prison for possessing a firearm while being a marijuana user.

The law in question prohibits anyone who is an "unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance" from owning a firearm.

But the appeals court panel ruled that it was too broad when it was used in Daniels' case and tossed out his conviction.

The appeals court's ruling, which applies to Mississippi, Texas, and Louisiana, came after the Supreme Court issued a landmark decision last year striking down a longstanding public carry law in New York and dramatically expanding Second Amendment rights.

Wednesday's ruling cited that decision — N.Y. State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen — when tossing out Daniels' conviction, saying it was inconsistent with the US's "historical tradition of firearm regulation."

"Our history and tradition may support some limits on an intoxicated person's right to carry a weapon, but it does not justify disarming a sober citizen based exclusively on his past drug usage," Smith wrote. "Nor do more generalized traditions of disarming dangerous persons support this restriction on nonviolent drug users."

Rest of article here: A conservative appeals court just ruled against the federal gun law used to charge Hunter Biden

I would be different if he told the truth and was denied but he lied. 

Are you telling us that you think he's the ONLY ONE who ever lied on a gun application??! If not, can we assume that you agree that everyone else who did (and got caught), should also be charged and receive the max penalty? Or is that only because it's Hunter Biden. Because as others have already said, the rules seem to be different if a 'pub does it.

[pulmonarymd]

Lying under oath does not appear to be a problem of you are a Republican. Again, he should receive the same sentence that others who did the same thing did

[tallguy]

Sept 16, 2023 14:13:17 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Lying under oath does not appear to be a problem of you are a Republican. Again, he should receive the same sentence that others who did the same thing did

Exactly.  And others who did the same things he did would likely never even have been charged.

[billisonboard]

Sept 16, 2023 14:15:41 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Sept 16, 2023 14:13:17 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Lying under oath does not appear to be a problem of you are a Republican. Again, he should receive the same sentence that others who did the same thing did

Exactly.  And others who did the same things he did would likely never even have been charged.

Or charges would be used to motivate an addict to get clean in a diversion program (like the one Hunter Biden was going to enter).

[tallguy]

Sept 16, 2023 14:32:18 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Sept 16, 2023 14:15:41 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Exactly.  And others who did the same things he did would likely never even have been charged.

Or charges would be used to motivate an addict to get clean in a diversion program (like the one Hunter Biden was going to enter).

That too.  But a years-long criminal investigation and indictment costing a fortune?  Never.  This is FAR beyond any legitimate or even reasonable action based on punishment for wrongdoing.

[scgal]

Sept 16, 2023 13:52:48 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

Sept 16, 2023 13:10:59 GMT -5 scgal said:

I would be different if he told the truth and was denied but he lied. 

Are you telling us that you think he's the ONLY ONE who ever lied on a gun application??! If not, can we assume that you agree that everyone else who did (and got caught), should also be charged and receive the max penalty? Or is that only because it's Hunter Biden. Because as others have already said, the rules seem to be different if a 'pub does it.

To be fair I'm happy that he is caught him lying is a slap in the face to us millions of legal licensed firearm owners. I will accept whatever the fine is whether its jail time or a slap on the wrist. I do find it funny that all the ones here who want stricter gun laws are willing to say its ok to give him a slap on the wrist and not a max sentence. So hypocritical. 

[tallguy]

Sept 16, 2023 15:52:49 GMT -5 scgal said:

Sept 16, 2023 13:52:48 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

Are you telling us that you think he's the ONLY ONE who ever lied on a gun application??! If not, can we assume that you agree that everyone else who did (and got caught), should also be charged and receive the max penalty? Or is that only because it's Hunter Biden. Because as others have already said, the rules seem to be different if a 'pub does it.

To be fair I'm happy that he is caught him lying is a slap in the face to us millions of legal licensed firearm owners. I will accept whatever the fine is whether its jail time or a slap on the wrist. I do find it funny that all the ones here who want stricter gun laws are willing to say its ok to give him a slap on the wrist and not a max sentence. So hypocritical. 

That is NOT what ANYONE is saying.  What they are saying is that it is wrong for him to be treated differently from anyone else.  If his last name was not Biden, he would likely not have been criminally charged at all, and nobody would have heard his name even once throughout this whole mess.  "Slap on the wrist" is appropriate because that is what anyone else in the same situation would receive, not because he is the president's son.  Nobody should be treated better or worse than anyone else, and particularly not in a horribly-misguided, ethically- and intellectually-compromised attempt to score political points.  But leave it to Republican committee members, because there are frightfully few left anywhere in that party who are either ethically- or intellectually-responsible.    

[dondubble]

Sept 16, 2023 16:18:33 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Sept 16, 2023 15:52:49 GMT -5 scgal said:

To be fair I'm happy that he is caught him lying is a slap in the face to us millions of legal licensed firearm owners. I will accept whatever the fine is whether its jail time or a slap on the wrist. I do find it funny that all the ones here who want stricter gun laws are willing to say its ok to give him a slap on the wrist and not a max sentence. So hypocritical. 

That is NOT what ANYONE is saying.  What they are saying is that it is wrong for him to be treated differently from anyone else.  If his last name was not Biden, he would likely not have been criminally charged at all, and nobody would have heard his name even once throughout this whole mess.  "Slap on the wrist" is appropriate because that is what anyone else in the same situation would receive, not because he is the president's son.  Nobody should be treated better or worse than anyone else, and particularly not in a horribly-misguided, ethically- and intellectually-compromised attempt to score political points.  But leave it to Republican committee members, because there are frightfully few left anywhere in that party who are either ethically- or intellectually-responsible.    

Here in Wa St. it’s a felony that the leading law enforcement official said is never prosecuted. So he is already being treated differently.

[billisonboard]

Sept 16, 2023 15:52:49 GMT -5 scgal said:

Sept 16, 2023 13:52:48 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

Are you telling us that you think he's the ONLY ONE who ever lied on a gun application??! If not, can we assume that you agree that everyone else who did (and got caught), should also be charged and receive the max penalty? Or is that only because it's Hunter Biden. Because as others have already said, the rules seem to be different if a 'pub does it.

To be fair I'm happy that he is caught him lying is a slap in the face to us millions of legal licensed firearm owners. I will accept whatever the fine is whether its jail time or a slap on the wrist. I do find it funny that all the ones here who want stricter gun laws are willing to say its ok to give him a slap on the wrist and not a max sentence. So hypocritical. 

I support intelligent use of tax dollars. Hunter Biden, enrolled in a diversion program, is not a person we need to pay to keep locked up.

[tallguy]

Sept 16, 2023 16:21:08 GMT -5 dondubble said:

Sept 16, 2023 16:18:33 GMT -5 tallguy said:

That is NOT what ANYONE is saying.  What they are saying is that it is wrong for him to be treated differently from anyone else.  If his last name was not Biden, he would likely not have been criminally charged at all, and nobody would have heard his name even once throughout this whole mess.  "Slap on the wrist" is appropriate because that is what anyone else in the same situation would receive, not because he is the president's son.  Nobody should be treated better or worse than anyone else, and particularly not in a horribly-misguided, ethically- and intellectually-compromised attempt to score political points.  But leave it to Republican committee members, because there are frightfully few left anywhere in that party who are either ethically- or intellectually-responsible.    

Here in Wa St. it’s a felony that the leading law enforcement official said is never prosecuted. So he is already being treated differently.

True, of course.  And I cannot imagine the IRS ever going after someone criminally after taxes have been paid.  Penalties for late payment, sure, but not criminal charges.  

[happyhoix]

Sept 16, 2023 16:18:33 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Sept 16, 2023 15:52:49 GMT -5 scgal said:

To be fair I'm happy that he is caught him lying is a slap in the face to us millions of legal licensed firearm owners. I will accept whatever the fine is whether its jail time or a slap on the wrist. I do find it funny that all the ones here who want stricter gun laws are willing to say its ok to give him a slap on the wrist and not a max sentence. So hypocritical. 

That is NOT what ANYONE is saying.  What they are saying is that it is wrong for him to be treated differently from anyone else.  If his last name was not Biden, he would likely not have been criminally charged at all, and nobody would have heard his name even once throughout this whole mess.  "Slap on the wrist" is appropriate because that is what anyone else in the same situation would receive, not because he is the president's son.  Nobody should be treated better or worse than anyone else, and particularly not in a horribly-misguided, ethically- and intellectually-compromised attempt to score political points.  But leave it to Republican committee members, because there are frightfully few left anywhere in that party who are either ethically- or intellectually-responsible.    

If his name wasn’t Biden some crazy Georgia bitch wouldn’t have blown up naked pictures he had privately emailed to a female friend and waved them around in a congressional hearing, which was being publicly broadcast.

Which is also a crime, and that crazy bitch didn’t get charged.

Bet he wishes he was some nameless persons’ screw up kid so he could get sober and put his wasted past behind him, instead of the GOP punching bag.

[tallguy]

Sept 16, 2023 16:27:15 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Sept 16, 2023 15:52:49 GMT -5 scgal said:

To be fair I'm happy that he is caught him lying is a slap in the face to us millions of legal licensed firearm owners. I will accept whatever the fine is whether its jail time or a slap on the wrist. I do find it funny that all the ones here who want stricter gun laws are willing to say its ok to give him a slap on the wrist and not a max sentence. So hypocritical. 

support intelligent use of tax dollars. Hunter Biden, enrolled in a diversion program, is not a person we need to pay to keep locked up.

"Intelligent use of tax dollars" absolutely precludes ever again putting a Republican in charge of a committee....  

[pulmonarymd]

Sept 16, 2023 15:52:49 GMT -5 scgal said:

Sept 16, 2023 13:52:48 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

Are you telling us that you think he's the ONLY ONE who ever lied on a gun application??! If not, can we assume that you agree that everyone else who did (and got caught), should also be charged and receive the max penalty? Or is that only because it's Hunter Biden. Because as others have already said, the rules seem to be different if a 'pub does it.

To be fair I'm happy that he is caught him lying is a slap in the face to us millions of legal licensed firearm owners. I will accept whatever the fine is whether its jail time or a slap on the wrist. I do find it funny that all the ones here who want stricter gun laws are willing to say its ok to give him a slap on the wrist and not a max sentence. So hypocritical. 

I’m sorry that what everyone is saying is too difficult for you to understand. If his name wasn’t Biden, he would have been given a slap on the wrist. His plea bargain would have been accepted, no pea brained republican congressperson would have broadcasted naked pictures of him, his name would not have been dragged through the mud, and Congress would not be dragging his name up every day.

The NRA does not believe this law should be on the books. A federal court said this law is unconstitutional. Gun owners want fewer restrictions, not more. Yet conservatives are cheering him being charged with a meaningless gun law. Talk about hypocrisy. Do you think he should have been charged?

[Opti]

Sept 16, 2023 15:52:49 GMT -5 scgal said:

Sept 16, 2023 13:52:48 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

Are you telling us that you think he's the ONLY ONE who ever lied on a gun application??! If not, can we assume that you agree that everyone else who did (and got caught), should also be charged and receive the max penalty? Or is that only because it's Hunter Biden. Because as others have already said, the rules seem to be different if a 'pub does it.

To be fair I'm happy that he is caught him lying is a slap in the face to us millions of legal licensed firearm owners. I will accept whatever the fine is whether its jail time or a slap on the wrist. I do find it funny that all the ones here who want stricter gun laws are willing to say its ok to give him a slap on the wrist and not a max sentence. So hypocritical. 

This makes no sense to me. 

[scgal]

Sept 16, 2023 16:18:33 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Sept 16, 2023 15:52:49 GMT -5 scgal said:

To be fair I'm happy that he is caught him lying is a slap in the face to us millions of legal licensed firearm owners. I will accept whatever the fine is whether its jail time or a slap on the wrist. I do find it funny that all the ones here who want stricter gun laws are willing to say its ok to give him a slap on the wrist and not a max sentence. So hypocritical. 

That is NOT what ANYONE is saying.  What they are saying is that it is wrong for him to be treated differently from anyone else.  If his last name was not Biden, he would likely not have been criminally charged at all, and nobody would have heard his name even once throughout this whole mess.  "Slap on the wrist" is appropriate because that is what anyone else in the same situation would receive, not because he is the president's son.  Nobody should be treated better or worse than anyone else, and particularly not in a horribly-misguided, ethically- and intellectually-compromised attempt to score political points.  But leave it to Republican committee members, because there are frightfully few left anywhere in that party who are either ethically- or intellectually-responsible.    

Ok I agree he should be treated the same there is a guy in Oaklahoma who served 16mos waiting trial for lying on his application he was given time served. Give LIL Biden 16 mos