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Post by hurley1980 on Dec 28, 2022 13:53:04 GMT -5
Pete being a mayor in a small area, ehhh. He certainly didn't do anything positive as transportation secretary. I guess that was the consolation prize. First off, he is currently the Secretary of Transportation so any accomplishments are ongoing. The job isn't one that offers a lot of headline grabbing opportunities. So i went looking. Here is one, a bit dated but something: Secretary Pete’s first year: Here’s how he rates. A good read to be informed. scgal's bias is so strong, she will never admit a democrat has done anything good. Jesus himself could resurrect, become president and save the country. But if he did so as a democrat, she would blast him. Its why I no longer converse with her. |
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Post by happyhoix on Dec 28, 2022 14:23:08 GMT -5
What would make Hillary so qualified? I was corrected she was a senator but more qualified than the rest of the field? I do agree with you on the age part. I wish they would put a top age cap in. Let’s see. Her being up close and personal to the workings of the office count for something. Her election to the Senate should be considered as adding qualifications to be sure. Her appointment to be Secretary of State alone added more qualifications than Trump had. But….she was a woman and a Democrat. THAT is what made her unqualified isn’t it. You don’t even think Nicky Haley is qualified as a Repo woman but thought Trump was. Wasn’t it lack of support from Mason~Dixon women that killed the Equal Rights Amendmant? And no, the scotus had not been liberal for too long. It leaned conservative, but had the proper balance. It is now out of balance for years to come and has lost a measure of support from the American people. She graduated from Yale as a lawyer, and served as a member of the judicial committee investigating Nixon. When she was First Lady, she pushed for an early version of universal healthcare, which failed, and she got a ton of shit for ‘meddling’ in politics when she should just be a demure First Lady. After the First Lady years, she did serve first in the Senate and then as SOS. So basically, a life of public service. Compared to Trump, who got daddy to pay off a doctor to get him out of the military draft and spent his business career screwing over vendors, defaulting on bank loans and finding every possible loophole in the tax law to ensure none of his dollars go to pay for the public infrastructure he enjoys. Not even an apple and orange comparison. More like apple and burning dumpster. |
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 28, 2022 14:26:09 GMT -5
First off, he is currently the Secretary of Transportation so any accomplishments are ongoing. The job isn't one that offers a lot of headline grabbing opportunities. So i went looking. Here is one, a bit dated but something: Secretary Pete’s first year: Here’s how he rates. A good read to be informed. scgal's bias is so strong, she will never admit a democrat has done anything good. Jesus himself could resurrect, become president and save the country. But if he did so as a democrat, she would blast him. Its why I no longer converse with her. It was posted that Buttegieg hadn't done anything positive. I didn't know if that was true. I checked. I posted information to counter what is basically not accurate. Really didn't have anything to do with who posted the original claim. |
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Post by swamp on Dec 28, 2022 14:34:09 GMT -5
trump was not qualified and never will be. Hillary would have been the best choice. Neither one was qualified. Other than being the first lady and secretary of state which she didn't do anything impressive Hillary being a democrat was a no go. One of the reasons why I voted for Trump was for the supreme court nominations. The court was in the liberal hands far too long. She was also a NY senator. I was skeptical but she did a good job. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 28, 2022 15:10:34 GMT -5
trump was not qualified and never will be. Hillary would have been the best choice. Neither one was qualified. Other than being the first lady and secretary of state which she didn't do anything impressive Hillary being a democrat was a no go. One of the reasons why I voted for Trump was for the supreme court nominations. The court was in the liberal hands far too long. i laughed a little bit when i read that. this is what our politics have become. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 28, 2022 15:12:30 GMT -5
Neither one was qualified. Other than being the first lady and secretary of state which she didn't do anything impressive Hillary being a democrat was a no go. One of the reasons why I voted for Trump was for the supreme court nominations. The court was in the liberal hands far too long. Your ignorance and bias are equally astounding. You have already been corrected about her being a senator as well. (How could you not have known that, by the way?) Bill Clinton was a natural politician. Hillary was a policy wonk. She could not relate to people in the same way Bill could, but she was ALWAYS informed and prepared. Getting into the details is what she enjoyed, even as First Lady. By many accounts, when she would take meetings with experts in their fields, she would be the best-prepared person in the room. Her intelligence and qualifications compared to Donald Trump is like comparing a Rhodes Scholar to the village idiot. Yes, she would have been one of the best-qualified and best-prepared presidents in memory had she won. And somebody, somewhere, will have to explain to me the desire for a conservative Supreme Court. Given that most of what the court deals with boils down to individual rights and individual freedoms in some capacity, WHY IN THE HELL would ANYBODY want a Supreme Court who will LIMIT those rights and freedoms rather than expand them? Unless of course you want others to not have the same rights and freedoms that you enjoy. (Yes, that was rhetorical. That is exactly what most social conservatives want. To protect their own privilege and dictate their own "morality.") i don't get it either. conservative judiciaries have presided over the worst decisions in world history. and yes, i can give abundant examples of that. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 28, 2022 15:14:04 GMT -5
So you vote party over country. Such a good GOP sheep.  No not a sheep. I just don't align with a democrat agenda. I'm kinda libertarian but def not a liberal. you recognize that those two words have the same root, right? the venn diagram between small "l" libertarians and liberals is nearly a complete overlap. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 28, 2022 15:15:50 GMT -5
trump was not qualified and never will be. Hillary would have been the best choice. by far. but apparently we are more sexist than racist in the US. (actually, there is a very neat historical proof of this, if you think about it) |
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 28, 2022 15:17:39 GMT -5
Technically Hilary was one of the most qualified candidates we have ever had! But woman, so bad! Hell, I don't have a problem with white men, but why do they all have to be so old? Old men are (on average) so out of touch as a demographic, we really don't need them running the show. John Mulaney said it best about his 93 year old grandma voting, something along the terms of....We don't need old people ordering for the table when they are about to get up at leave. I don't mean old people shouldn't vote, but they shouldn't be running a country when they won't be around to see the aftermath of their decisions. Biden is so old, he's not even a boomer! He's the generation before. And Trump is a first year boomer. What would make Hillary so qualified? I was corrected she was a senator but more qualified than the rest of the field? I do agree with you on the age part. I wish they would put a top age cap in. it has actually been discussed endlessly, so forgive me for taking a shortcut. |
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Post by tallguy on Dec 28, 2022 15:33:26 GMT -5
trump was not qualified and never will be. Hillary would have been the best choice. by far. but apparently we are more sexist than racist in the US. (actually, there is a very neat historical proof of this, if you think about it) I would guess it was the 50-year wait between the passing of the 15th and 19th Amendments. How'd I do? |
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Post by scgal on Dec 28, 2022 15:39:57 GMT -5
No not a sheep. I just don't align with a democrat agenda. I'm kinda libertarian but def not a liberal. How was Trump qualified to be president? Based on experience in government, she was far more qualified than he was. So, it has nothing to do with qualifications for you. in post 79 I stated neither one was qualified. |
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Post by tallguy on Dec 28, 2022 15:43:18 GMT -5
How was Trump qualified to be president? Based on experience in government, she was far more qualified than he was. So, it has nothing to do with qualifications for you. in post 79 I stated neither one was qualified. And you are both sadly and hilariously wrong on that. ETA: If there had been an impartial panel of 1000 people choosing who would be the best choice for the country and for the world, the vote would have been: Clinton - 1000 Trump - 0 |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Dec 28, 2022 15:43:25 GMT -5
How was Trump qualified to be president? Based on experience in government, she was far more qualified than he was. So, it has nothing to do with qualifications for you. in post 79 I stated neither one was qualified. In your opinion, what makes someone qualified then? Hilary was a senator and secretary of state. What additional factors would make her qualified? And then, tell me what Republican who is rumored to be a candidate for president in 2024 meets them. If Biden runs against an unqualified republican, who will you vote for? Because Biden is clearly qualified, since he already has the job. |
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 28, 2022 15:46:57 GMT -5
How was Trump qualified to be president? Based on experience in government, she was far more qualified than he was. So, it has nothing to do with qualifications for you. in post 79 I stated neither one was qualified. Curious- whose resume, in your opinion, qualifies them? (Perhaps a past president's or current potential one) |
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Post by scgal on Dec 28, 2022 15:52:24 GMT -5
Neither one was qualified. Other than being the first lady and secretary of state which she didn't do anything impressive Hillary being a democrat was a no go. One of the reasons why I voted for Trump was for the supreme court nominations. The court was in the liberal hands far too long. i laughed a little bit when i read that. this is what our politics have become. I agree I hate it but I do agree. It has become party politics what one feels is the lesser of 2 evils. |
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Post by scgal on Dec 28, 2022 15:54:54 GMT -5
in post 79 I stated neither one was qualified. In your opinion, what makes someone qualified then? Hilary was a senator and secretary of state. What additional factors would make her qualified? And then, tell me what Republican who is rumored to be a candidate for president in 2024 meets them. If Biden runs against an unqualified republican, who will you vote for? Because Biden is clearly qualified, since he already has the job. No I will not vote for him. I might have to vote independent if Trump gets the nomination. I don't like it but it might be the way I go. |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Dec 28, 2022 15:56:00 GMT -5
In your opinion, what makes someone qualified then? Hilary was a senator and secretary of state. What additional factors would make her qualified? And then, tell me what Republican who is rumored to be a candidate for president in 2024 meets them. If Biden runs against an unqualified republican, who will you vote for? Because Biden is clearly qualified, since he already has the job. No I will not vote for him. I might have to vote independent if Trump gets the nomination. I don't like it but it might be the way I go. Didn't answer the other questions. Who, in your mind is qualified? What makes someone qualified? Can you answer the question |
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Post by scgal on Dec 28, 2022 15:57:01 GMT -5
in post 79 I stated neither one was qualified. Curious- whose resume, in your opinion, qualifies them? (Perhaps a past president's or current potential one) Hillary being SOS or Senator would qualify her if not for the scandals while in office. Benghazi, emails etc. Basically the same way I feel about Trump the scandals is not good for the country |
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 28, 2022 15:59:50 GMT -5
I am dying to know what makes someone qualified for POTUS. Being a governor? But, then you don’t have federal experience. Being a majority or minority leader? But is that really the top job?
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Post by scgal on Dec 28, 2022 16:03:37 GMT -5
No I will not vote for him. I might have to vote independent if Trump gets the nomination. I don't like it but it might be the way I go. Didn't answer the other questions. Who, in your mind is qualified? What makes someone qualified? Can you answer the question Simply put someone who has been in office and actually done something not just some accolades from their party. Along with, while in office no major scandals. Hillary received a lot of ass kissing from liberal (Obama too). Make her look like she was all that but in the end she lost to a 2nd rate businessman. If she was all that she should have blown Trump away. |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Dec 28, 2022 16:09:07 GMT -5
Didn't answer the other questions. Who, in your mind is qualified? What makes someone qualified? Can you answer the question Simply put someone who has been in office and actually done something not just some accolades from their party. Along with, while in office no major scandals. Hillary received a lot of ass kissing from liberal (Obama too). Make her look like she was all that but in the end she lost to a 2nd rate businessman. If she was all that she should have blown Trump away. More right wing nonsense. Benghazi was a made up scandal. The e mails were more republican nonsense, especially since you seem too have no issue with Trump's handling of classified documents. She had 20 years of vilification from the republicans that gave her such a negative rating. You admittedly voted for an unqualified, and clearly less qualified candidate. You also voted for Trump over Biden, when Biden meets your qualifications whereas Trump does not. Spare me your attempt to be reasonable. You lose all credibility by your defense of Trump |
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Post by tallguy on Dec 28, 2022 16:11:56 GMT -5
Curious- whose resume, in your opinion, qualifies them? (Perhaps a past president's or current potential one) Hillary being SOS or Senator would qualify her if not for the scandals while in office. Benghazi, emails etc. Basically the same way I feel about Trump the scandals is not good for the country You should realize, though obviously don't, that none of those had merit. How many Benghazi investigations were there? Eleven? Not one found evidence of any wrongdoing on Clinton's part as I recall. The emails were another made-up piece of crap meant to damage her politically. There was nothing there. Again. Congratulations on being duped, but at least you weren't alone in that.  |
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Post by scgal on Dec 28, 2022 16:12:03 GMT -5
First off, he is currently the Secretary of Transportation so any accomplishments are ongoing. The job isn't one that offers a lot of headline grabbing opportunities. So i went looking. Here is one, a bit dated but something: Secretary Pete’s first year: Here’s how he rates. A good read to be informed. scgal's bias is so strong, she will never admit a democrat has done anything good. Jesus himself could resurrect, become president and save the country. But if he did so as a democrat, she would blast him. Its why I no longer converse with her. I actually voted for Bill Clinton, the last time I voted democrat. I am bias not so much to the person but against the party. The person just makes it easier. I wanted Roe overturned I knew for that to happen the supreme court needed to lean conservative so I voted for Trump. Although I realize climate change is real I don't think the amount of money that democrats want to spend on it is worthwhile. I think the rest of the world (our allies) need to share more of the cost with military assistance or pay us to help them. |
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Post by scgal on Dec 28, 2022 16:15:42 GMT -5
Simply put someone who has been in office and actually done something not just some accolades from their party. Along with, while in office no major scandals. Hillary received a lot of ass kissing from liberal (Obama too). Make her look like she was all that but in the end she lost to a 2nd rate businessman. If she was all that she should have blown Trump away. More right wing nonsense. Benghazi was a made up scandal. The e mails were more republican nonsense, especially since you seem too have no issue with Trump's handling of classified documents. She had 20 years of vilification from the republicans that gave her such a negative rating. You admittedly voted for an unqualified, and clearly less qualified candidate. You also voted for Trump over Biden, when Biden meets your qualifications whereas Trump does not. Spare me your attempt to be reasonable. You lose all credibility by your defense of Trump Just like the phone call that Trump made to the Ukraine president. A scandal is just that a scandal. Usually pushed by the opposite party it is ok to push Trump for the scandal but not Hillary talk about credibility at least i'm honest |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Dec 28, 2022 16:29:15 GMT -5
More right wing nonsense. Benghazi was a made up scandal. The e mails were more republican nonsense, especially since you seem too have no issue with Trump's handling of classified documents. She had 20 years of vilification from the republicans that gave her such a negative rating. You admittedly voted for an unqualified, and clearly less qualified candidate. You also voted for Trump over Biden, when Biden meets your qualifications whereas Trump does not. Spare me your attempt to be reasonable. You lose all credibility by your defense of Trump Just like the phone call that Trump made to the Ukraine president. A scandal is just that a scandal. Usually pushed by the opposite party it is ok to push Trump for the scandal but not Hillary talk about credibility at least i'm honest No, there is proof that Trump took classified documents. Trump's call with the Ukrainian president was inappropriate. What was the scandal in Benghazi? Numerous hearings were held, and nothing came out of it. It was an unfortunate situation. But scandal? That is a made up issue. Your both sidism is tiresome. You refuse to look at these issues honestly. And the fact that you thi makes Trump is better than anyone leads no one on this board to take you seriously |
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Dec 28, 2022 16:33:32 GMT -5
Hillary did nothing wrong so it was a political scandal by the GOP. trump actually broke the law or came close withholding funds authorized by congress as blackmail for his personal interests. You can't seem to see the truth if it doesn't fit your right wing agenda. You are honest and biased.
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Post by dondub on Dec 28, 2022 17:02:19 GMT -5
More right wing nonsense. Benghazi was a made up scandal. The e mails were more republican nonsense, especially since you seem too have no issue with Trump's handling of classified documents. She had 20 years of vilification from the republicans that gave her such a negative rating. You admittedly voted for an unqualified, and clearly less qualified candidate. You also voted for Trump over Biden, when Biden meets your qualifications whereas Trump does not. Spare me your attempt to be reasonable. You lose all credibility by your defense of Trump Just like the phone call that Trump made to the Ukraine president. A scandal is just that a scandal. Usually pushed by the opposite party it is ok to push Trump for the scandal but not Hillary talk about credibility at least i'm honest So extortion is now ok as long as it is done by the person you voted for. Got it. |
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 28, 2022 18:35:06 GMT -5
Hillary eats babies.
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Post by teen persuasion on Dec 28, 2022 21:41:02 GMT -5
Didn't answer the other questions. Who, in your mind is qualified? What makes someone qualified? Can you answer the question Simply put someone who has been in office and actually done something not just some accolades from their party. Along with, while in office no major scandals. Hillary received a lot of ass kissing from liberal (Obama too). Make her look like she was all that but in the end she lost to a 2nd rate businessman. If she was all that she should have blown Trump away. But when weighing a former Senator and Sec. of State vs a 2nd rate businessman (your term), how could you know IN ADVANCE that she would lose to said 2nd rate businessman, making her not-worth-voting-for? Because you seem to be saying that Hillary losing to Trump is what MADE her less-qualified in your eyes ... |
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Post by scgal on Dec 29, 2022 7:33:45 GMT -5
Simply put someone who has been in office and actually done something not just some accolades from their party. Along with, while in office no major scandals. Hillary received a lot of ass kissing from liberal (Obama too). Make her look like she was all that but in the end she lost to a 2nd rate businessman. If she was all that she should have blown Trump away. But when weighing a former Senator and Sec. of State vs a 2nd rate businessman (your term), how could you know IN ADVANCE that she would lose to said 2nd rate businessman, making her not-worth-voting-for? Because you seem to be saying that Hillary losing to Trump is what MADE her less-qualified in your eyes ... First off thank you for a civil post. The point I am making is if she was good at her job she should have easily beat a Trump who is a second rate businessman. |
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