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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 26, 2022 12:30:28 GMT -5
forgive me for saying so, but i don't think this will EVER be on DeathSantis' radar. his constituents are not black, and he cares more about being asleep (anti-woke) than he cares about those voters.
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Post by tbop77 on Jul 28, 2022 6:46:05 GMT -5
Florida GOP Governor Ron DeSantis, continuing his months-long, fear-based attack on the LGBTQ community, appears to be claiming that elementary school teachers are “instructed” to tell children they they might be transgender, and insisting if anyone dares to disagree with him, they are “lying.” His claim, which appears in a clip posted by The Recount, is drawing massive outrage on social media. “This will be for elementary school kids, where they’re instructed to tell them, ‘You may have been born a boy, that may have been what you said, but maybe you’re really a girl.’ That’s wrong. That has no place in school – so that is happening in our country. Anyone that tells you it’s not happening is lying to you,” DeSantis, talking very fast, says in the video. www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/prove-it-ron-desantis-hammered-for-false-allegation-about-teachers/ar-AA102sm6?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=cb5b8cf7075e4e6e8d116a7014fb0aa6He sure seems like he is following in Trump's footsteps. Say the most outrageous thing possible.
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Post by Bob Ross on Jul 28, 2022 14:34:28 GMT -5
TBH I don't think DeSantis is electable in a general. He's had too many controvercies and boneheaded or downright malicious decisions that will make him easy to destroy once he's front and center. He is Trumpian and smarter than Trump, but he also doesn't have the key authoritarian leader aspect, which is a Trump-like charisma. His mannerisms are weird, he can't speak well, nor make eye contact. He doesn't have that strongman persona that the MAGA crave. He seems to be having a difficult enough time with his 2022 race in FL. This doesn't translate well for his overall electability. The early front runners usually fall. I think the real nominee (if Trump doesn't screw them...a GIANT if) will be someone not even on the radar yet. I think two out of the three are true for Trump. I find him very hard to listen to because of his current speech patterns and weird hand gestures. In old clips he sounded more normal and was less weird with the hand motions. Trump has charisma. It's that weird, wannabe strongman cult leader charisma that attracts those with a certain authoritarian follower mentality like moths to a flame while disgusting the rest of us. Hitler had it. Mussolini had it. Trump has it too. Ever see one of the other GQP cronies try to do their best Trump impersonation? They fail miserably, and this will matter.
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Post by Bob Ross on Jul 29, 2022 14:47:15 GMT -5
TBH I don't think DeSantis is electable in a general. He's had too many controvercies and boneheaded or downright malicious decisions that will make him easy to destroy once he's front and center. He is Trumpian and smarter than Trump, but he also doesn't have the key authoritarian leader aspect, which is a Trump-like charisma. His mannerisms are weird, he can't speak well, nor make eye contact. He doesn't have that strongman persona that the MAGA crave. He seems to be having a difficult enough time with his 2022 race in FL. This doesn't translate well for his overall electability. The early front runners usually fall. I think the real nominee (if Trump doesn't screw them...a GIANT if) will be someone not even on the radar yet. I think two out of the three are true for Trump. I find him very hard to listen to because of his current speech patterns and weird hand gestures. In old clips he sounded more normal and was less weird with the hand motions. True, but Trump has that Hitlerian autocratic dictator charisma that a significant minority of the population seems to have hard-wired into their libidos. To the rest of us, it's simply appalling.
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Post by tbop77 on Jul 30, 2022 7:49:44 GMT -5
Religion belongs on public life, Florida tells teachers His education department issued a memorandum the next day advising told school districts to ignore guidance from the Biden administration that says federal law prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity in schools. The memo from Florida Education Commissioner Manny Diaz Jr. said the Biden administration’s rules “should not be treated as governing law.” Diaz’s memo also says schools can ignore suggestions from the Florida Department of Agriculture Commission that they should post “And Justice For All” posters from the USDA in schools. The posters explain anti-discrimination laws. Florida Agriculture commissioner Nikki Fried, the only Democrat in DeSantis’s cabinet and a candidate for governor, said schools should display the posters. But Diaz said that “doing so may create a conflict with Florida law.” Florida is already facing a dire teacher shortage, with 9,000 open teaching and staff positions unfilled as the new school year begins, said Florida Education Association president Andy Spar. The shortage is severe enough that DeSantis recently signed a law that allows military veterans to teach without the required certificate or a four-year college degree. www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-teachers-race-to-remake-lessons-as-desantis-laws-take-effect/ar-AA107C7w?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1988c12db83c41c8970a6904d3250f03My daughter teaches in FL, is a Trump supporter and loved Uncle Ron when he kept the state of FL free during COVID. You should hear her now that Uncle Ron has waged his war on schools. I just sigh and say "at least the state of FL is free"
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 30, 2022 9:59:49 GMT -5
Push us back, push us back, waaaaaaayyyy back. How about letting parents decide what's best for their children. DeSantis, citing a 1947 law on crossdressing, seeks to revoke a restaurant's liquor license after a video surfaced of children attending a drag brunchFlorida Gov. Ron DeSantis has filed a complaint against a Miami restaurant that hosts a weekly drag brunch after children were seen at the event. According to The Hill, the video was posted by LibsofTikTok, a right-wing social media account. In the complaint obtained by the news organization, DeSantis alleged R House violated state law and cited a 1947 state Supreme Court ruling that "men impersonating women" in a "suggestive and indecent" fashion is a public nuisance. At a press conference on Wednesday, DeSantis said the state's Department of Business and Professional Regulation conducted an investigation at the restaurant and found "not only were there minors there ... the bar had a children's menu." Drag shows have become a target of Republican lawmakers seeking to introduce anti-LGBTQ legislation not only in the state of Florida, but across the country. In June, Florida Rep. Anthony Sabatini tweeted he would be proposing legislation that would make it a felony and terminate the parental rights of "any adult who brings a child to these perverted sex shows." The Hill reported that R House's liquor license could be revoked if the complaint is successful. Speaking with The Miami Herald, the restaurant said it was hoping to resolve the incident and called it a "misunderstanding." R House and DeSantis did not immediately respond to Insider's requests for comment. DeSantis, citing a 1947 law on crossdressing, seeks to revoke a restaurant's liquor license after a video surfaced of children attending a drag brunch
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 30, 2022 12:02:35 GMT -5
I think two out of the three are true for Trump. I find him very hard to listen to because of his current speech patterns and weird hand gestures. In old clips he sounded more normal and was less weird with the hand motions. Trump has charisma. It's that weird, wannabe strongman cult leader charisma that attracts those with a certain authoritarian follower mentality like moths to a flame while disgusting the rest of us. Hitler had it. Mussolini had it. Trump has it too. Ever see one of the other GQP cronies try to do their best Trump impersonation? They fail miserably, and this will matter. i saw Trump recently speaking at a rally. he looks like Winston Churchill crossed with the Hunchback of Notre Dame. he is all slouched over and greasy looking. to me. his MAGA cult seems to still love him, though.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 30, 2022 13:42:51 GMT -5
question: why do people like DeSatanist? is it because he is a troll? that he is telegenic? both? neither?
i have lots of reasons that i dislike him. most have to do with his stance on Covid, which was consistently outrageous and appalling.
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 5, 2022 9:39:21 GMT -5
question: why do people like DeSatanist? is it because he is a troll? that he is telegenic? both? neither? i have lots of reasons that i dislike him. most have to do with his stance on Covid, which was consistently outrageous and appalling. People who were/are in denial about Covid liked that he said Covid wasn't a thing and didn't matter. It helped them keep their head in the sand. Remember, even people who lost someone they loved believed it wasn't a thing. People were lobbying to get Covid removed from death certificates, working to keep it from the obituary or any public exposure, etc. They insist Covid didn't kill that person and Covid is not dangerous. Ron DeSantis made it okay for them to believe that and say so - loudly and proudly. So, as with every politician- the exact reason you hate him is the exact reason someone loves him.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 5, 2022 12:53:00 GMT -5
Is that legal? I know it doesn't matter to the MAGA crowd, but is he allowed to fire an elected official? Wouldn't he need to be impeached?
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 5, 2022 13:29:26 GMT -5
Is that legal? I know it doesn't matter to the MAGA crowd, but is he allowed to fire an elected official? Wouldn't he need to be impeached? Under Florida law, a governor can remove "any county officer" for malfeasance, misfeasance, neglect of duty, drunkenness, incompetence, permanent inability to perform official duties, or commission of a felony. The Florida Senate has the power to reinstate a suspended official or remove that person from office. link
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 5, 2022 14:24:47 GMT -5
Ron DeSantis will be president some day in the near future. I hope we have someone that can defeat him, but I would bet money on him being elected President before 2033.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 5, 2022 16:49:23 GMT -5
Ron DeSantis will be president some day in the near future. I hope we have someone that can defeat him, but I would bet money on him being elected President before 2033. won't be my fucking president. if he so much as wins the nomination, i am outy.
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Post by busymom on Aug 5, 2022 17:02:05 GMT -5
Lord have mercy! Lookee what I found on the internet today. Right out of the Trump playbook: And yes, these shirts ARE for sale online. Someone bring me some eye bleach, please...
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 5, 2022 17:22:34 GMT -5
weird sort of blood stained tie die photo of the Cult there......
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 5, 2022 17:35:26 GMT -5
Lord have mercy! Lookee what I found on the internet today. Right out of the Trump playbook: And yes, these shirts ARE for sale online. Someone bring me some eye bleach, please... Not Trump's.
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Post by busymom on Aug 5, 2022 18:10:54 GMT -5
This is the Trump image that the DeSantis shirt is based on. I need a drink AND eye bleach. I guess some of you lucky souls didn't see it before now.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 5, 2022 18:12:35 GMT -5
wow. it is EXACTLY the same. how "creative".
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Post by Opti on Aug 5, 2022 18:19:45 GMT -5
Lord have mercy! Lookee what I found on the internet today. Right out of the Trump playbook: And yes, these shirts ARE for sale online. Someone bring me some eye bleach, please... Obvious Photoshop. Wonder why whoever created it did not modify the skin tone on the head or body so they matched? (Cuts into profits probably.)
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Post by Opti on Aug 5, 2022 18:24:15 GMT -5
This is the Trump image that the DeSantis shirt is based on. I need a drink AND eye bleach. I guess some of you lucky souls didn't see it before now. His fans really like fantasy over reality.
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Post by busymom on Aug 5, 2022 18:28:24 GMT -5
Oh my word, that tennis picture! More eye bleach! More!
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I think two out of the three are true for Trump. I find him very hard to listen to because of his current speech patterns and weird hand gestures. In old clips he sounded more normal and was less weird with the hand motions. Trump has charisma. It's that weird, wannabe strongman cult leader charisma that attracts those with a certain authoritarian follower mentality like moths to a flame while disgusting the rest of us. Hitler had it. Mussolini had it. Trump has it too. Ever see one of the other GQP cronies try to do their best Trump impersonation? They fail miserably, and this will matter. I’ve never seen any charisma. I didn’t have a favorable opinion of him from when I first heard anything about him. I didn’t like or have respect for him when he had the tv show. My opinion of him has always been that he was a sorry excuse for a man and an asshole, and wasn’t even a good businessman given the bankruptcies of his companies. I was shocked and appalled when I realized people were taking him serious about running for the presidency. Wait, WHAT?! was my reaction. And when I realized what was really happening, I remember exactly where I was, in a Bed Bath and Beyond store, when I called my daughter and told her she needed to pay attention to what was going on with politics because she is a woman and more importantly, because she had a daughter (now 2 daughters). I was worried about minorities and females from the moment I realized he really had a chance at becoming President. I wish with everything in me that I was making mountains out of molehills with my fears and concerns back then. That’s one of those times I would be ecstatic to have been wrong. Unfortunately, I was not wrong, and things were exactly what I thought they were.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 5, 2022 18:33:47 GMT -5
Trump has charisma. It's that weird, wannabe strongman cult leader charisma that attracts those with a certain authoritarian follower mentality like moths to a flame while disgusting the rest of us. Hitler had it. Mussolini had it. Trump has it too. Ever see one of the other GQP cronies try to do their best Trump impersonation? They fail miserably, and this will matter. I’ve never seen any charisma. I didn’t have a favorable opinion of him from when I first heard anything about him. I didn’t like or have respect for him when he had the tv show. My opinion of him has always been that he was a sorry excuse for a man and an asshole, and wasn’t even a good businessman given the bankruptcies of his companies. I was shocked and appalled when I realized people were taking him serious about running for the presidency. Wait, WHAT?! was my reaction. And when I realized what was really happening, I remember exactly where I was, in a Bed Bath and Beyond store, when I called my daughter and told her she needed to pay attention to what was going on with politics because she is a woman and more importantly, because she had a daughter (now 2 daughters). I was worried about minorities and females from the moment I realized he really had a chance at becoming President. I wish with everything in me that I was making mountains out of molehills with my fears and concerns back then. That’s one of those times I would be ecstatic to have been wrong. Unfortunately, I was not wrong, and things were exactly what I thought they were. we have consistently underestimated the damage this man could inflict on the US. are we still doing that? i am not sure. maybe. some of us sure are. some of us, in fact, seem to want that. why do they hate America so much?
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 5, 2022 21:17:21 GMT -5
Ron DeSantis will be president some day in the near future. I hope we have someone that can defeat him, but I would bet money on him being elected President before 2033. won't be my fucking president. if he so much as wins the nomination, i am outy. If Kari Lake becomes the AZ Governor, I will want to get out of AZ. I don't know if I can talk my husband into it. I think I will start talking about leaving the county and maybe we can settle on just moving to a different state.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 5, 2022 21:54:51 GMT -5
wow. it is EXACTLY the same. how "creative".
(not) Kind of like how The Cult of Biden thread was created right after The Cult of Trump thread was created.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 5, 2022 22:00:03 GMT -5
wow. it is EXACTLY the same. how "creative".
(not) Kind of like how The Cult of Biden thread was created right after The Cult of Trump thread was created. even though it came from a book of the same name. kind of frustrating, but that is how trolls roll.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 5, 2022 22:01:28 GMT -5
won't be my fucking president. if he so much as wins the nomination, i am outy. If Kari Lake becomes the AZ Governor, I will want to get out of AZ. I don't know if I can talk my husband into it. I think I will start talking about leaving the county and maybe we can settle on just moving to a different state. that woman is a fucking nightmare.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 8, 2022 13:49:41 GMT -5
that phrase actually has nothing to do with PROSECUTORS. it has to do with perpetrators.
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