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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 21, 2022 18:53:21 GMT -5
PS- why is this thread here rather than in politics or CE?
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 21, 2022 18:54:41 GMT -5
Minor quibble. Third leading cause of death you're right. i was using the reported totals, not the estimated ones. conceded. it is third behind stroke. Cancer Heart disease Covid
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 21, 2022 18:56:12 GMT -5
PS- why is this thread here rather than in politics or CE? Topic has been all over the place. Opening poster put it here for some reason, probably because it had to do with payment to drag queens
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 21, 2022 19:16:54 GMT -5
PS- why is this thread here rather than in politics or CE? Topic has been all over the place. Opening poster put it here for some reason, probably because it had to do with payment to drag queens ....and he didn't get the outrage he was hoping for.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 21, 2022 19:56:52 GMT -5
Apparently that is what people do when they attend pride parades. That came from the picture of seeing a kid interact with a guy in a dog mask on a leash. That is something that will do lasting psychological damage to a child according to a poster. But constantly worrying about if today is the day they are going to get blown away in school and now being aware that there is a good chance "good guys with guns" are y not going to even attempt to save you and it doesn't matter because Jim Bob's right to own an AR-15 is more important than your life. .. that isn't psychologically damaging AT ALL. America is so fucking out of whack when it comes to what we get morally outraged over. Oh and I as the parent have no right or ability to decide if my kid seeing a dildo hat wearing dude is going to cause them damage. Which is funny because I thought conservatives were all about parental rights these days.Only if the exercise of "parental rights" can be weaponized to target harmless marginalized people and make their lives even more difficult. Also books. Books are bad and must be stamped out. They contain ideas and humor and make kids think and ask questions and encourage tolerance and kindness. We can't have that. It could lead to dancing. You forgot rock-n-roll. And women wearing pants.
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Post by Opti on Jun 21, 2022 20:06:59 GMT -5
PS- why is this thread here rather than in politics or CE? Taxpayer money I think.
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Post by ripvanwinkle on Jun 21, 2022 23:46:18 GMT -5
PS- why is this thread here rather than in politics or CE? Taxpayer money I think. Yes, hard earned taxpayer money. If the politicians that supported this funding are up for reelection, I hope the electorate vote them out.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 22, 2022 0:03:19 GMT -5
what if the electorate agrees with it?
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Post by teen persuasion on Jun 22, 2022 7:11:01 GMT -5
Yes, hard earned taxpayer money. If the politicians that supported this funding are up for reelection, I hope the electorate vote them out. There's a ton of hard earned taxpayer money going to things I disagree with, but I don't seem to be able to vote them out for it (like corporate welfare). Reading books to children - that I approve.
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Post by dannylion on Jun 22, 2022 10:32:05 GMT -5
How heartbreaking it must be for all the "Real Americans (tm)" and "True Patriots (tm)" who are longing to read to children in libraries and are constantly seeking opportunities to do so, only to be thwarted at every attempt when they discover that drag queens have a monopoly on reading to children.
One can't help wondering whether drag queens are being encouraged and incentivized in their reading activities because they are the ones reliably showing up to do it.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Jun 22, 2022 10:47:38 GMT -5
I seriously cannot think of any group more appropriate for reading to children. The more flamboyant and dramatic the better for bringing the books to life.
I would have loved to have that available for my kids when they were little.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 22, 2022 10:54:48 GMT -5
How heartbreaking it must be for all the "Real Americans (tm)" and "True Patriots (tm)" who are longing to read to children in libraries and are constantly seeking opportunities to do so, only to be thwarted at every attempt when they discover that drag queens have a monopoly on reading to children. One can't help wondering whether drag queens are being encouraged and incentivized in their reading activities because they are the ones reliably showing up to do it. It's Pizza Hut and their damn booked club! I knew there was a secret agenda behind all those free pizza coupons I got back in elementary school!
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 22, 2022 12:11:51 GMT -5
what if the electorate agrees with it? Doesn't matter. Per rip the 30% or so that share his values are the only ones that matter. Never mind that we're supposed to live in a democracy.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 22, 2022 13:22:47 GMT -5
I seriously cannot think of any group more appropriate for reading to children. The more flamboyant and dramatic the better for bringing the books to life.
I would have loved to have that available for my kids when they were little.
like Randal and his Honey Badger video?
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 23, 2022 14:57:22 GMT -5
I'll repeat I don't think kids should be exposed to it. I'm not projecting anything. I highly doubt anyone on this board is qualified to say it's good for a child to be subject to people walking around with dildos hanging off their head and shown they are submissive to another. I am very immersed in the LGBTQ community because not all straight people hate them. I have never once seen anyone walk around with dildoes hanging from their heads. And why not expose young children to all types of people. My grandson went to pride with his mom, my daughter and her GF. He's 3 yo. Why not show children to love all people whether they are like you or not? Isn't that part of being a Christian? I was raised in a Christian family and I was taught to love all people. What happened to do unto others as you would have them do unto you? Do you really have that much hate in your heart? That's only for *true* Christians. And, in my experience, that encompasses *very* few conservatives. The rest are "Christian" in name only. Their actions clearly show they're fakers. They pretend to be Christian so they have some justification for their moral outrage, because heaven forbid they just own the fact that they're bigots, racist, homophobes, etc.
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Post by jerseygirl on Jun 23, 2022 19:51:04 GMT -5
I am very immersed in the LGBTQ community because not all straight people hate them. I have never once seen anyone walk around with dildoes hanging from their heads. And why not expose young children to all types of people. My grandson went to pride with his mom, my daughter and her GF. He's 3 yo. Why not show children to love all people whether they are like you or not? Isn't that part of being a Christian? I was raised in a Christian family and I was taught to love all people. What happened to do unto others as you would have them do unto you? Do you really have that much hate in your heart? That's only for *true* Christians. And, in my experience, that encompasses *very* few conservatives. The rest are "Christian" in name only. Their actions clearly show they're fakers. They pretend to be Christian so they have some justification for their moral outrage, because heaven forbid they just own the fact that they're bigots, racist, homophobes, etc. This seems very biased, similar to being a racist Thinking maybe you are basing this on what you read and who you read, not real people beyond maybe a small outlier group Try substituting some minority for Christian and you might recognize the vitriol
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Post by tallguy on Jun 23, 2022 20:22:10 GMT -5
That's only for *true* Christians. And, in my experience, that encompasses *very* few conservatives. The rest are "Christian" in name only. Their actions clearly show they're fakers. They pretend to be Christian so they have some justification for their moral outrage, because heaven forbid they just own the fact that they're bigots, racist, homophobes, etc. This seems very biased, similar to being a racist Thinking maybe you are basing this on what you read and who you read, not real people beyond maybe a small outlier group Try substituting some minority for Christian and you might recognize the vitriol I would differ strongly with your opinion. I also grew up in a Christian household, with people who would be considered "true" Christians. I have said almost the same thing here multiple times. As I have put it, a large number of those who claim to be Christian in this country have no idea what it actually means to be one. And you can almost take it as a guarantee that anyone using their "faith" as a major component of their building a public persona is lying about their faith. Whether it be a religious leader with a large public ministry or trying to be an adviser to politicians, or a politician crafting an image or brand, it is the same for both. Many millions of "true" Christians are out there, but these religious leaders and politicians view them mainly as people to be exploited. The "Christian nationalism" that now seems almost endemic within conservative or Republican circles is not only un-Christian but actively anti-Christian. And for those who know what Christianity is supposed to look like, it is VERY easy to see. You will occasionally see me use the term "the religious right." You will NEVER see me use the term "the Christian right." There is absolutely nothing Christian about them.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 23, 2022 20:49:36 GMT -5
these are the same people that have no problem normalizing gun use with shit like open carry. candidly, if there were 300M dildoes in the US rather than 300M guns, i think we would be in much better shape.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 23, 2022 20:52:13 GMT -5
we should meme that.
remember those pictures of the people with their guns laid out on the floor? cut the guns out and lay out 100 or so dildoes.
AR-15 strapped to some guy? maybe a horse dick dildo, instead?
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 23, 2022 23:10:56 GMT -5
Trump looks like he's thinking about cutting it in half length wise and stuffing it with Genoa salami, spicy pepperoni, Black Forest Ham, Provolone cheese, pickles, black olives and slathered with mayo, oil and vinegar.
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Post by ripvanwinkle on Jun 24, 2022 0:38:05 GMT -5
This event with the drag queens reminds me when I attempted to go back to college yrs ago. I didn't finish. One of my classes was psychology. That day we were reading/discussing about behavior and self esteem. The author cited some studies that persons with low self esteem often turn to behavior that they would not normally do like dressing flamboyantly or acting out to bring attention to themselves and or join a group with others doing the same thing. These queens remind me of that class discussion.
If I remember right it was a lively and interesting discussion.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 24, 2022 1:19:53 GMT -5
it seems more plausible that conformists have low self esteem. they are hiding behind their pressed shirts and shiny shoes.
drag queens are OUT THERE. that takes some courage. i admire it.
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Post by daisylu on Jun 24, 2022 6:04:23 GMT -5
Like I need another reason to avoid Texas. If dildos are "indecent", WTF do they think about penises? Guys walk around with that ish EVERYDAY. From the article: According to Section 43.23 of the Texas penal code, although it doesn’t clearly state dildos, the law still regulates the possession of ‘obscene devices'.
It states: “A person commits an offense if, knowing its content and character, he wholesale promotes or possesses with intent to wholesale promote any obscene material or obscene device.”
Meanwhile, another section clearly prohibits the number of sex toys a person can own: "A person who possesses six or more obscene devices or identical or similar obscene articles is presumed to possess them with intent to promote the same.”
While it still exists as a law in the Texan penal code, it's not legitimately enforceable because it's been deemed unconstitutional 'by a federal appeals court nearly a decade ago', according to Politifact.
Regardless of whether it's enforceable, it's still a part of the law and it's unlikely to be repealed anytime soon.
James C. Todd, a former Texas assistant attorney general, explained to Politifact why that is.
"They don’t want to go back and in the next election have it said (that) my opponent voted against a law to prohibit indecency," he said.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 24, 2022 7:38:04 GMT -5
That's only for *true* Christians. And, in my experience, that encompasses *very* few conservatives. The rest are "Christian" in name only. Their actions clearly show they're fakers. They pretend to be Christian so they have some justification for their moral outrage, because heaven forbid they just own the fact that they're bigots, racist, homophobes, etc. This seems very biased, similar to being a racist Thinking maybe you are basing this on what you read and who you read, not real people beyond maybe a small outlier group Try substituting some minority for Christian and you might recognize the vitriol I do understand your point, but I stand by my statement. Both IRL and here, I find the people who act/speak like what *I* consider to be Christian - kind, accepting of different lifestyles/cultures/religions, generous of themselves (just to name a few) - are the ones NOT waving an "I'M A CHRISTIAN!!!!" flag. They don't need a god to tell them how to be. They know right from wrong. Maybe they're Christian, maybe they're not. But they don't feel the need to constantly call attention to it either way. They simply let their actions speak for themselves.
98% of the "Christians" I encounter IRL or online are the exact opposite. They're small-minded and un-accepting. Extremely judgmental of others and always going on and on and onnnnnn about how they're Christian. Not sure who they're trying to convince, but it doesn't work on me.
I have nothing against religion of any sort. But FFS sake, WALK THE WALK. Most don't and their 'talk the talk' sucks too. That's my issue. Are there exceptions? Absolutely. But they're not too common.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 24, 2022 7:43:37 GMT -5
This event with the drag queens reminds me when I attempted to go back to college yrs ago. I didn't finish. One of my classes was psychology. That day we were reading/discussing about behavior and self esteem. The author cited some studies that persons with low self esteem often turn to behavior that they would not normally do like dressing flamboyantly or acting out to bring attention to themselves and or join a group with others doing the same thing. These queens remind me of that class discussion.
If I remember right it was a lively and interesting discussion.
I'm guessing you went to school when homosexuality was still considered a mental disorder?
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Post by jerseygirl on Jun 24, 2022 8:59:13 GMT -5
This seems very biased, similar to being a racist Thinking maybe you are basing this on what you read and who you read, not real people beyond maybe a small outlier group Try substituting some minority for Christian and you might recognize the vitriol I do understand your point, but I stand by my statement. Both IRL and here, I find the people who act/speak like what *I* consider to be Christian - kind, accepting of different lifestyles/cultures/religions, generous of themselves (just to name a few) - are the ones NOT waving an "I'M A CHRISTIAN!!!!" flag. They don't need a god to tell them how to be. They know right from wrong. Maybe they're Christian, maybe they're not. But they don't feel the need to constantly call attention to it either way. They simply let their actions speak for themselves.
98% of the "Christians" I encounter IRL or online are the exact opposite. They're small-minded and un-accepting. Extremely judgmental of others and always going on and on and onnnnnn about how they're Christian. Not sure who they're trying to convince, but it doesn't work on me.
I have nothing against religion of any sort. But FFS sake, WALK THE WALK. Most don't and their 'talk the talk' sucks too. That's my issue. Are there exceptions? Absolutely. But they're not too common.I’m thinking most ordinary people aren’t proclaiming they’re Christians but just go about running and helping food pantries , foster care kids, working with charities that help disabled etc etc or even just donating to these causes I’m glad you and tall guy are able to recognize that not all are hypocritical nasty people . Please think about how you’re speaking about these people. You surely don’t loudly proclaim all POC are criminals when only a minority are and the great majority are good and kind. Reflects poorly on you when you do the same with all‘Christians ‘. By the way are you referring to evangelicals, Catholics, Russian and Greek Orthodox, Baptists, Mormons, Episcopals etc?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 24, 2022 9:17:53 GMT -5
Contemporary Religion Professor put it as there are Christians and then there is the American Christian political movement. Which he said has nothing to do with the actual teachings of Christ and he said they have no business calling themselves Christians since they ignore 99% of the Bible in favor of the few passages they can twist to suit their agenda.
The latter is the one who calls Trump a "Baby Christian" and looks the other way.
One I respect the other I will do anything and everything to stand against.
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