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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 20, 2022 8:57:07 GMT -5
you miss 100% of the shots you do not take.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 20, 2022 9:03:59 GMT -5
Back to the original topic of the thread I thought this was a really good opinion piece. Wonder what Rip's views on a non-gendered sports team are. www.cnn.com/2022/06/20/opinions/lgbtq-inclusivity-soccer-wellness-harvey/index.htmlOne day, more than two years after leaving sports, E mused, "I wish there were a team for non-binary kids. I'd want to play on that team."
And that's the day the Primers was born.
We posted to social media, asking if people knew kids who were non-binary/transgender, or cisgender kids who'd be excited about a soccer team where everybody's pronouns were embraced and honored.
The resounding answer was "yes!"
Within a month we had a gaggle of kids who just wanted to play. They were trans kids who were non-binary (they/them) and trans kids who used he/him or she/her. There were cisgender kids -- some had siblings or close friends who were trans.
We worked with a local league and got our team a spot on the co-ed schedule. We offered to lead a forum for referees and other coaches, wanting to do our best to insulate our kids from quizzical looks or unwelcome questions when they took to the field on game days.
Staff with the Des Moines Menace, our local United Soccer Leagues-affiliated team, reached out in support; their team manager came and coached a practice, they donated LGBTQ pride soccer balls. One member of our community arranged for every Primer to receive an autographed player card from none other than Adrianna Franch, a goalie for the US Women's National Team .
The collective loving energy that surrounded this effort was palpable the moment it began. The longer it's gone on the bigger and stronger it's become.
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Post by chiver78 on Jun 20, 2022 9:12:29 GMT -5
that's fantastic, DQ!
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Post by Opti on Jun 20, 2022 9:20:49 GMT -5
that is quoted out of context. what she actually said was THIS: “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.” i have yet to see a single person quote her accurately. and it is clear, if you read this phrase, what she meant- that there were so many lies told about this piece of legislation that it is better just to see what it does than to listen to all of the baloney being made about it. then why rush it thru Because of politics and where the votes are.
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Post by Opti on Jun 20, 2022 9:54:03 GMT -5
You should get out more then. Get out of your bubble. Most hospital based doctors care for uninsured patients, we see many on the icu. Before the aca, I got nothing for caring for critically ill uninsured patients s in the icu. Now I get something. Patients who went to the ER and were found to have a lung mass can now be seen and have their work up done as an outpatient instead of worrying about how to pay for it. You should have paid more attention to your reading, or maybe ask your MLS daughter what she knows, since you claim you both are knowledgeable in this area. Criticize dems all you want. They are the only ones trying to fix things. Republicans have no interest nor do they even have any ideas. I will take the person who tries any day instead of those who do nothing but say no. trying and failing is worse than doing nothing at all. You are only looking at the medical (which understandable that is only what you know). I look at how the cost has risen for others, how drs decided to go into retirement because of the new regulations of paperwork, how the sign up was a disaster from the start. There is more to this failure than what you are looking at. Now I since you like to dis my daughter I will comment. I brought her up because of her medical education and extreme knowledge of guns, ammunition. You may have more knowledge in the medical profession but it is clear you have zero in muzzle velocity, ammunition comparison. Probably very little in gunshot damage other than what you seen in a course semester. So yes my daughter would overall have way more knowledge than you and those combined. More than likely other than we don't have a degree in the medical field my husband and I both are more qualified in in how the a projectile can affect the body. You just hear talking points on guns not knowing one type of bullet to the next. I try to keep my posts nice and with manners but as evident on how you attacked one poster on here, keep attacking my daughter you will see the BITCH i can be Are you target shooting people? Do you have first-hand knowledge of what happens when people get shot with different guns, ammo, and at different distances? I'm going to go with reports from the coroner at Ulvade and others who have seen it up close and personal over people who shoot targets. You do know there is gun violence in NYC and sometimes the victims show up at an ER or ICU instead of the coroner, right? I do not know what kind of experience you have, Are there lots of injuries at the gun range? Hopefully you are not regularly somewhere where you see damage that people were intentionally shot or killed.
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Post by scgal on Jun 20, 2022 10:24:27 GMT -5
trying and failing is worse than doing nothing at all. You are only looking at the medical (which understandable that is only what you know). I look at how the cost has risen for others, how drs decided to go into retirement because of the new regulations of paperwork, how the sign up was a disaster from the start. There is more to this failure than what you are looking at. Now I since you like to dis my daughter I will comment. I brought her up because of her medical education and extreme knowledge of guns, ammunition. You may have more knowledge in the medical profession but it is clear you have zero in muzzle velocity, ammunition comparison. Probably very little in gunshot damage other than what you seen in a course semester. So yes my daughter would overall have way more knowledge than you and those combined. More than likely other than we don't have a degree in the medical field my husband and I both are more qualified in in how the a projectile can affect the body. You just hear talking points on guns not knowing one type of bullet to the next. I try to keep my posts nice and with manners but as evident on how you attacked one poster on here, keep attacking my daughter you will see the BITCH i can be No, you do not. People who treat these things have more knowledge about how they cause damage that needs to be repaired. I will take the word of a trauma surgeon who has to repair these wounds over someone with no real world knowledge about the effects of this on the body. You need to learn more about medical costs. Medical inflation hit its lowest rate in decades after the ACA was passed. You pay for the uninsured either way. You just now see that cost. Uninsured patients drive up the cost for everybody. The status quo sucked. Saying you think that was better clearly shows you have no clue about this. The easiest insurance to deal with is straight Medicare. It has the fewest restrictions, the lowest overhead, and the fewest preauthorization requirements. And it is a government run program. Imagine that! No they do not, they see and treat the damage as a wound..Besides being a firearm instructer my husband has been a guest speaker to several universities as an expert in firearms 2 of the universities was medical universities as well as several police academy. No we may not see the damage everyday but we sure know what the damage is and can usually tell rifle, handgun, close range.... He also been asked to testify as an independent expert if a death is a suicide or not when there is conflicting medical examiner reports. As I wouldn't know how to treat cancer or a heart disease compared to me you are way out of your depth on firearm knowledge. What about the part of the ACA that drove up costs for millions of other insurers. I had to pay more, with less dr's in network. You don't want to talk about that. How many dr's retired because of the ACA.
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Post by Opti on Jun 20, 2022 10:45:37 GMT -5
No, you do not. People who treat these things have more knowledge about how they cause damage that needs to be repaired. I will take the word of a trauma surgeon who has to repair these wounds over someone with no real world knowledge about the effects of this on the body. You need to learn more about medical costs. Medical inflation hit its lowest rate in decades after the ACA was passed. You pay for the uninsured either way. You just now see that cost. Uninsured patients drive up the cost for everybody. The status quo sucked. Saying you think that was better clearly shows you have no clue about this. The easiest insurance to deal with is straight Medicare. It has the fewest restrictions, the lowest overhead, and the fewest preauthorization requirements. And it is a government run program. Imagine that! No they do not, they see and treat the damage as a wound..Besides being a firearm instructer my husband has been a guest speaker to several universities as an expert in firearms 2 of the universities was medical universities as well as several police academy. No we may not see the damage everyday but we sure know what the damage is and can usually tell rifle, handgun, close range.... He also been asked to testify as an independent expert if a death is a suicide or not when there is conflicting medical examiner reports. As I wouldn't know how to treat cancer or a heart disease compared to me you are way out of your depth on firearm knowledge. What about the part of the ACA that drove up costs for millions of other insurers. I had to pay more, with less dr's in network. You don't want to talk about that. How many dr's retired because of the ACA. Drs retire all the time because of changes in medical practices and insurances. You might want to look at this article and notice the trend in medical insurance prices. Its an older article as nothing current came up. www.thebalance.com/causes-of-rising-healthcare-costs-4064878After 1998, people rebelled and demanded more choice in providers. As demand increased again, so did prices. Between 1997 and 2007, drug prices tripled, according to a study in Health Affairs.
The reliance on corporate private insurance created healthcare inequality. Those without insurance often couldn't afford visits to a primary care physician. By 2009, half of the people (46.3%) who used a hospital said they went because they had no other place to go for healthcare.
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Post by scgal on Jun 20, 2022 11:11:04 GMT -5
No they do not, they see and treat the damage as a wound..Besides being a firearm instructer my husband has been a guest speaker to several universities as an expert in firearms 2 of the universities was medical universities as well as several police academy. No we may not see the damage everyday but we sure know what the damage is and can usually tell rifle, handgun, close range.... He also been asked to testify as an independent expert if a death is a suicide or not when there is conflicting medical examiner reports. As I wouldn't know how to treat cancer or a heart disease compared to me you are way out of your depth on firearm knowledge. What about the part of the ACA that drove up costs for millions of other insurers. I had to pay more, with less dr's in network. You don't want to talk about that. How many dr's retired because of the ACA. Drs retire all the time because of changes in medical practices and insurances. You might want to look at this article and notice the trend in medical insurance prices. Its an older article as nothing current came up. www.thebalance.com/causes-of-rising-healthcare-costs-4064878After 1998, people rebelled and demanded more choice in providers. As demand increased again, so did prices. Between 1997 and 2007, drug prices tripled, according to a study in Health Affairs.
The reliance on corporate private insurance created healthcare inequality. Those without insurance often couldn't afford visits to a primary care physician. By 2009, half of the people (46.3%) who used a hospital said they went because they had no other place to go for healthcare.The article is informative. Basically it says pre ACA when the govt got involved all healthcare rose. After ACA--requiring insurance co to pay for yearly visits we all know nothing is free so the rates go up like I was saying. Medicare cut payments to providers, increase paperwork. Providers said screw it we will retire like I was saying. Moral of the story the more involved the govt is the more screwed your gonna be
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Post by raeoflyte on Jun 20, 2022 11:15:23 GMT -5
Doing nothing about medical care is killing people.
The ACA ended pre-existing condition clauses although I know they were going after that again. Pre-existing condition clauses could literally bankrupt us and ds when he's an adult. Insulin costs a fortune (no - not everyone can use Walmarts brand), not to mention all the other devices he needs. Even with insurance the first 12 months was difficult. We met his deductible in 24 hours, and had to do it all over again in less than 4 months when the calendar year restarted.
Doing nothing is not better than trying.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jun 20, 2022 11:17:14 GMT -5
Drs retire all the time because of changes in medical practices and insurances. You might want to look at this article and notice the trend in medical insurance prices. Its an older article as nothing current came up. www.thebalance.com/causes-of-rising-healthcare-costs-4064878After 1998, people rebelled and demanded more choice in providers. As demand increased again, so did prices. Between 1997 and 2007, drug prices tripled, according to a study in Health Affairs.
The reliance on corporate private insurance created healthcare inequality. Those without insurance often couldn't afford visits to a primary care physician. By 2009, half of the people (46.3%) who used a hospital said they went because they had no other place to go for healthcare.The article is informative. Basically it says pre ACA when the govt got involved all healthcare rose. After ACA--requiring insurance co to pay for yearly visits we all know nothing is free so the rates go up like I was saying. Medicare cut payments to providers, increase paperwork. Providers said screw it we will retire like I was saying. Moral of the story the more involved the govt is the more screwed your gonna be I have to wonder how we live on the same planet, yet alone country.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 20, 2022 11:18:59 GMT -5
Also one of the reasons that rates went up. Rates also went up due to the termination of trash medical plans. Again< overhead costs for Medicare are far lower than commercial plans. The real problem with insurance now is the Medicare Advantage plans, doing all kinds of unethical things with coverage. Yet people complain about Medicare. I would prefer to deal with straight Medicare, far fewer hassles. TGhe narrative that conservatives push is wrong, but as we see, they do not want to admit it.
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Post by Opti on Jun 20, 2022 11:19:09 GMT -5
Drs retire all the time because of changes in medical practices and insurances. You might want to look at this article and notice the trend in medical insurance prices. Its an older article as nothing current came up. www.thebalance.com/causes-of-rising-healthcare-costs-4064878After 1998, people rebelled and demanded more choice in providers. As demand increased again, so did prices. Between 1997 and 2007, drug prices tripled, according to a study in Health Affairs.
The reliance on corporate private insurance created healthcare inequality. Those without insurance often couldn't afford visits to a primary care physician. By 2009, half of the people (46.3%) who used a hospital said they went because they had no other place to go for healthcare.The article is informative. Basically it says pre ACA when the govt got involved all healthcare rose. After ACA--requiring insurance co to pay for yearly visits we all know nothing is free so the rates go up like I was saying. Medicare cut payments to providers, increase paperwork. Providers said screw it we will retire like I was saying. Moral of the story the more involved the govt is the more screwed your gonna be Interesting way to stick to your beliefs. Most governments are involved in healthcare of their citizens, yet our country is one of the priciest on the globe. So clearly involvement of government is not the thing that makes healthcare expensive, affordable or even reasonably priced. Government currently is staying out of gas prices, and some are absolutely crazy. So the myth that the market will make things cheap has been proven wrong so many times I don't know why anyone chooses to believe that malarky. Health insurance companies put their own pressure on providers and have for years. Are you ignoring that too?
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Post by scgal on Jun 20, 2022 11:26:20 GMT -5
The article is informative. Basically it says pre ACA when the govt got involved all healthcare rose. After ACA--requiring insurance co to pay for yearly visits we all know nothing is free so the rates go up like I was saying. Medicare cut payments to providers, increase paperwork. Providers said screw it we will retire like I was saying. Moral of the story the more involved the govt is the more screwed your gonna be Interesting way to stick to your beliefs. Most governments are involved in healthcare of their citizens, yet our country is one of the priciest on the globe. So clearly involvement of government is not the thing that makes healthcare expensive, affordable or even reasonably priced. Government currently is staying out of gas prices, and some are absolutely crazy. So the myth that the market will make things cheap has been proven wrong so many times I don't know why anyone chooses to believe that malarky. Health insurance companies put their own pressure on providers and have for years. Are you ignoring that too? All govts are not the same... ours is screwed up both sides want to distort truth for their own agendas. I'm not ignoring anything Health ins companies put pressure because the govt is putting pressure on them. The whole system is shit. I wonder is our renowned physician here would still be practicing if all he could make is 80k.
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Post by Opti on Jun 20, 2022 11:35:39 GMT -5
Interesting way to stick to your beliefs. Most governments are involved in healthcare of their citizens, yet our country is one of the priciest on the globe. So clearly involvement of government is not the thing that makes healthcare expensive, affordable or even reasonably priced. Government currently is staying out of gas prices, and some are absolutely crazy. So the myth that the market will make things cheap has been proven wrong so many times I don't know why anyone chooses to believe that malarky. Health insurance companies put their own pressure on providers and have for years. Are you ignoring that too? All govts are not the same... ours is screwed up both sides want to distort truth for their own agendas. I'm not ignoring anything Health ins companies put pressure because the govt is putting pressure on them. The whole system is shit. I wonder is our renowned physician here would still be practicing if all he could make is 80k. Just that statement shows you are so intent on the government being the villain that you aren't even evaluating other factors. Health insurance businesses want to make money. Sure they are regulated, but they also do things based on profits not people not health. Medical equipment and treatment has changed drastically since I was born. MRIs, robotic assisted surgery, all that costs more than the old way of doing things.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 20, 2022 11:36:30 GMT -5
Interesting way to stick to your beliefs. Most governments are involved in healthcare of their citizens, yet our country is one of the priciest on the globe. So clearly involvement of government is not the thing that makes healthcare expensive, affordable or even reasonably priced. Government currently is staying out of gas prices, and some are absolutely crazy. So the myth that the market will make things cheap has been proven wrong so many times I don't know why anyone chooses to believe that malarky. Health insurance companies put their own pressure on providers and have for years. Are you ignoring that too? All govts are not the same... ours is screwed up both sides want to distort truth for their own agendas. I'm not ignoring anything Health ins companies put pressure because the govt is putting pressure on them. The whole system is shit. I wonder is our renowned physician here would still be practicing if all he could make is 80k. You are the one who clearly doesn't care about others. Places where physicians make lower salaries also pay for medical school, jave affordable,college costs, lower or no malpractice costs and cases, limit care to a degree that Americans won't accept, do not expect to get care any time of the day or night, limit pharmaceutical costs, and have higher taxes so physicians do not have ridiculous loans and have to catch up on retirement savings. But you would not be in favor of any of that. Your precious freedom to own whatever firearm you want without limit is more important to you than a child's life. Don't act like you think you are better than physicians, almost all of us who put our lives at risk over the last 2 years. You did the same?
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 20, 2022 12:17:19 GMT -5
You should get out more then. Get out of your bubble. Most hospital based doctors care for uninsured patients, we see many on the icu. Before the aca, I got nothing for caring for critically ill uninsured patients s in the icu. Now I get something. Patients who went to the ER and were found to have a lung mass can now be seen and have their work up done as an outpatient instead of worrying about how to pay for it. You should have paid more attention to your reading, or maybe ask your MLS daughter what she knows, since you claim you both are knowledgeable in this area. Criticize dems all you want. They are the only ones trying to fix things. Republicans have no interest nor do they even have any ideas. I will take the person who tries any day instead of those who do nothing but say no. trying and failing is worse than doing nothing at all. Trying and failing is better than doing nothing. We learn from our failures. We learn nothing from doing nothing.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 20, 2022 12:47:17 GMT -5
trying and failing is worse than doing nothing at all.
If that was true, Richard Branson would still be selling budgies door-to-door.
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Criticize dems all you want. They are the only ones trying to fix things. Republicans have no interest nor do they even have any ideas. I will take the person who tries any day instead of those who do nothing but say no. trying and failing is worse than doing nothing at all.That is a shockingly ridiculous viewpoint for an adult to hold. History is replete with stories of tremendous successes based on a series of failures, and indeed, most successes are built on a series of failures. There is a marvelous collection of quotes on the value of failure, from such an assorted cast of luminaries as Edison, Churchill, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Robert F. Kennedy, and uncounted others not-so-famous. I am not going to direct you to them because, quite frankly, you do not deserve them and are unlikely to be able to understand them if I did. To refer back to the specific example of health care in this country and the ACA in particular, it is most disingenuous to criticize as a colossal failure something that was hurt far worse by sabotage than by being lacking in its own merits or intentions. Most of its "failures" were due to political resistance from conservatives and the greed and self-interest of insurance companies. And as for conservatives bleating about the low approval ratings of the ACA, much of that was because a third of the country did not think it went far enough. They were right, it didn't. That was all that could get passed in Congress, and it helped tens of millions of people. Unfortunately, as most conservatives seem to believe, it helped the wrong people. It helped people who actually needed it.
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Post by dannylion on Jun 20, 2022 13:14:17 GMT -5
trying and failing is worse than doing nothing at all.
If that was true, Richard Branson would still be selling budgies door-to-door. Trying and failing and learning from what went wrong and trying again is literally how science gets done. And, just speaking for myself, of course, if I am injured by a firearm, whether the doctor treating me can recite precise information regarding muzzle velocity or ammunition or anything else regarding firearms is not going to be of any interest (or use) to me whatsoever. I want the guy or gal who went to medical school and learned human physiology at the molecular level treating me. ER doctors are very knowledgeable about gunshot wounds. That's the important part. They do not need to have a personal relationship with the weapon.
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Post by Opti on Jun 20, 2022 14:05:32 GMT -5
No, you do not. People who treat these things have more knowledge about how they cause damage that needs to be repaired. I will take the word of a trauma surgeon who has to repair these wounds over someone with no real world knowledge about the effects of this on the body. You need to learn more about medical costs. Medical inflation hit its lowest rate in decades after the ACA was passed. You pay for the uninsured either way. You just now see that cost. Uninsured patients drive up the cost for everybody. The status quo sucked. Saying you think that was better clearly shows you have no clue about this. The easiest insurance to deal with is straight Medicare. It has the fewest restrictions, the lowest overhead, and the fewest preauthorization requirements. And it is a government run program. Imagine that! No they do not, they see and treat the damage as a wound..Besides being a firearm instructer my husband has been a guest speaker to several universities as an expert in firearms 2 of the universities was medical universities as well as several police academy. No we may not see the damage everyday but we sure know what the damage is and can usually tell rifle, handgun, close range.... He also been asked to testify as an independent expert if a death is a suicide or not when there is conflicting medical examiner reports. As I wouldn't know how to treat cancer or a heart disease compared to me you are way out of your depth on firearm knowledge. What about the part of the ACA that drove up costs for millions of other insurers. I had to pay more, with less dr's in network. You don't want to talk about that. How many dr's retired because of the ACA. Sounds like your husband's and PMD's knowledge is different because the focus is different. When testifying at a trial its important to know who shot whom and how. There are probably no deep discussions on what blood vessels got shredded, how long it will take for tissue to heal and what to do about missing bone. A surgeon or doctor needs to fix or save a still living patient. A trial expert in firearms is going to testify on gun types, angles, distances, because that's what's important at a trial. What the heck happened to the body and what can be fixed, is more important if you are trying to save a life versus analyzing a death. Different purposes, different skills, both needed.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 20, 2022 16:00:25 GMT -5
Sure you did. I am the Queen of Sheba. If this is a failure, then maybe we should institute universal health care like most of the countries ahead of us have done. I am SURE you are in favor of that. Cancer screening rates, diabetes and hypertension control all improved after it was implemented. Medical debt, medical inflation, and finances of small, rural hospitals in places that expanded Medicaid improved. How is that the failure? Where is the beautiful, Republican plan to improve health care, I think we are still waiting I don't know what you are....Universal healthcare may have some merit, but shouldn't be rushed. As far as republicans I already said they're not doing shit. I can own that dems can't own that the ACA was a shit show. You are the only dr I herd say they like the ACA. scgal- people said the same thing about universal suffrage and civil rights. it just pissed off the people that were waiting anxiously for what they considered to be a human right. i am not sure why DOCTORS would like the ACA. it is not designed for DOCTORS.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 20, 2022 17:33:18 GMT -5
Sure you did. I am the Queen of Sheba. If this is a failure, then maybe we should institute universal health care like most of the countries ahead of us have done. I am SURE you are in favor of that. Cancer screening rates, diabetes and hypertension control all improved after it was implemented. Medical debt, medical inflation, and finances of small, rural hospitals in places that expanded Medicaid improved. How is that the failure? Where is the beautiful, Republican plan to improve health care, I think we are still waiting I don't know what you are....Universal healthcare may have some merit, but shouldn't be rushed. As far as republicans I already said they're not doing shit. I can own that dems can't own that the ACA was a shit show. You are the only dr I herd say they like the ACA. Shouldn't be rushed? The US has been debating universal healthcare since 1950. That's 72 years.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 20, 2022 19:30:45 GMT -5
I don't know what you are....Universal healthcare may have some merit, but shouldn't be rushed. As far as republicans I already said they're not doing shit. I can own that dems can't own that the ACA was a shit show. You are the only dr I herd say they like the ACA. Shouldn't be rushed? The US has been debating universal healthcare since 1950. That's 72 years. this is WHY Obama will probably be seen by historians as a top 10 president. he got something done that even Truman could not accomplish.
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Post by scgal on Jun 21, 2022 7:06:36 GMT -5
trying and failing is worse than doing nothing at all. That is a shockingly ridiculous viewpoint for an adult to hold. History is replete with stories of tremendous successes based on a series of failures, and indeed, most successes are built on a series of failures. There is a marvelous collection of quotes on the value of failure, from such an assorted cast of luminaries as Edison, Churchill, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Robert F. Kennedy, and uncounted others not-so-famous. I am not going to direct you to them because, quite frankly, you do not deserve them and are unlikely to be able to understand them if I did. To refer back to the specific example of health care in this country and the ACA in particular, it is most disingenuous to criticize as a colossal failure something that was hurt far worse by sabotage than by being lacking in its own merits or intentions. Most of its "failures" were due to political resistance from conservatives and the greed and self-interest of insurance companies. And as for conservatives bleating about the low approval ratings of the ACA, much of that was because a third of the country did not think it went far enough. They were right, it didn't. That was all that could get passed in Congress, and it helped tens of millions of people. Unfortunately, as most conservatives seem to believe, it helped the wrong people. It helped people who actually needed it. not deserving yup another democrat view....I should have been more specific Government is better off doing nothing than trying and failing.
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Post by scgal on Jun 21, 2022 7:12:26 GMT -5
trying and failing is worse than doing nothing at all. Trying and failing is better than doing nothing. We learn from our failures. We learn nothing from doing nothing. On a personal level I couldn't agree more. There is too much to risk when the govt does it. The risk needs to be assessed carefully not rushed thru. They rushed the ACA thru because they knew they would get a ton of pushback from conservatives and rightfully so. To be penalized for not having healthcare is absurd and that is how they were going to get compliance.
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Post by scgal on Jun 21, 2022 7:26:46 GMT -5
All govts are not the same... ours is screwed up both sides want to distort truth for their own agendas. I'm not ignoring anything Health ins companies put pressure because the govt is putting pressure on them. The whole system is shit. I wonder is our renowned physician here would still be practicing if all he could make is 80k. You are the one who clearly doesn't care about others. Places where physicians make lower salaries also pay for medical school, jave affordable,college costs, lower or no malpractice costs and cases, limit care to a degree that Americans won't accept, do not expect to get care any time of the day or night, limit pharmaceutical costs, and have higher taxes so physicians do not have ridiculous loans and have to catch up on retirement savings. But you would not be in favor of any of that. Your precious freedom to own whatever firearm you want without limit is more important to you than a child's life. Don't act like you think you are better than physicians, almost all of us who put our lives at risk over the last 2 years. You did the same? OMG...you like wearing your superman cape don't you, I wouldn't consider less than 1% chance of dying from a flu variant makes you superman. Millions of us went to work the last 2 years it was no big deal. Slap a mask on, wash your hands, stay away from each other. If you catch it stay the hell away from each other if you have other other issues you might be in for some bad shit. We are not guaranteed a tomorrow live life, make smart choices and deal with bad shit. Now take off your cape fold it up and save it for the democrat ass slapping conventions
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 21, 2022 7:42:59 GMT -5
You are the one who clearly doesn't care about others. Places where physicians make lower salaries also pay for medical school, jave affordable,college costs, lower or no malpractice costs and cases, limit care to a degree that Americans won't accept, do not expect to get care any time of the day or night, limit pharmaceutical costs, and have higher taxes so physicians do not have ridiculous loans and have to catch up on retirement savings. But you would not be in favor of any of that. Your precious freedom to own whatever firearm you want without limit is more important to you than a child's life. Don't act like you think you are better than physicians, almost all of us who put our lives at risk over the last 2 years. You did the same? OMG...you like wearing your superman cape don't you, I wouldn't consider less than 1% chance of dying from a flu variant makes you superman. Millions of us went to work the last 2 years it was no big deal. Slap a mask on, wash your hands, stay away from each other. If you catch it stay the hell away from each other if you have other other issues you might be in for some bad shit. We are not guaranteed a tomorrow live life, make smart choices and deal with bad shit. Now take off your cape fold it up and save it for the democrat ass slapping conventions First of all, you have no idea what my risk profile of dying is. Your ignorance is astounding. Risk go ups with age and comorbidities. The risk is 12% for 80 yo for example. You should stick to a topic you are an expert at. In addition, in the early days of the pandemic, there were a ton of unknowns about the risk profile, so again, you are wrong. A 26 yo Emergency Medicine resident in NYC died from COVID. I am sure their family is comforted that the risk was less than 1%. I do not have the luxury of staying away from people. I need to expose myself routinely by examining and caring for these people. That necessitated close contact. Your dismissiveness of me and others like me is telling. Your lack of respect for the sacrifice I and my fellow health care workers is also noted. You appear to care for us about as much as you care for the lives of elementary school children. I guess your caring about others ends at birth.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jun 21, 2022 7:54:54 GMT -5
You are the one who clearly doesn't care about others. Places where physicians make lower salaries also pay for medical school, jave affordable,college costs, lower or no malpractice costs and cases, limit care to a degree that Americans won't accept, do not expect to get care any time of the day or night, limit pharmaceutical costs, and have higher taxes so physicians do not have ridiculous loans and have to catch up on retirement savings. But you would not be in favor of any of that. Your precious freedom to own whatever firearm you want without limit is more important to you than a child's life. Don't act like you think you are better than physicians, almost all of us who put our lives at risk over the last 2 years. You did the same? OMG...you like wearing your superman cape don't you, I wouldn't consider less than 1% chance of dying from a flu variant makes you superman. Millions of us went to work the last 2 years it was no big deal. Slap a mask on, wash your hands, stay away from each other. If you catch it stay the hell away from each other if you have other other issues you might be in for some bad shit. We are not guaranteed a tomorrow live life, make smart choices and deal with bad shit. Now take off your cape fold it up and save it for the democrat ass slapping conventions And who the fuck cares about those people with other issues and those of us who love them? Not your political party who want government out of insurance, but in other people's medical decisions. Whether you agree with them or not, you're voting for people who are putting my family at risk, even risk of dying because of "other issues" by politicizing a vaccine. Your party who are supporting white supremacists that are among us their attacks on queer and Trans gatherings. Your party that has over 200 fucking bills to limit rights for queer and Trans people. Those are the people you are supporting. At some point on this thread or another, you said something about how strong I am to live my life as a queer parent, but I'm not stronger than any other parent. I just have to watch out even more for my kids to try to protect them from the effects of having queer parents. I can't protect them from everything though, and your political party is working to take away my marriage and my husband's right to exist in public spaces. Maybe you care or live a queer person. Maybe you've found that unicorn of a gay republican that assures you you're right. I'd say go to pride and meet with and talk to queer people, but you're unwilling to hear anyone else's view. You want your freedom and your guns to live your life and your values to dictate how others live theirs. I can't believe I let myself read this shit in the morning.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 21, 2022 8:09:14 GMT -5
OMG...you like wearing your superman cape don't you, I wouldn't consider less than 1% chance of dying from a flu variant makes you superman. Millions of us went to work the last 2 years it was no big deal. Slap a mask on, wash your hands, stay away from each other. If you catch it stay the hell away from each other if you have other other issues you might be in for some bad shit. We are not guaranteed a tomorrow live life, make smart choices and deal with bad shit. Now take off your cape fold it up and save it for the democrat ass slapping conventions And who the fuck cares about those people with other issues and those of us who love them? Not your political party who want government out of insurance, but in other people's medical decisions. Whether you agree with them or not, you're voting for people who are putting my family at risk, even risk of dying because of "other issues" by politicizing a vaccine. Your party who are supporting white supremacists that are among us their attacks on queer and Trans gatherings. Your party that has over 200 fucking bills to limit rights for queer and Trans people. Those are the people you are supporting. At some point on this thread or another, you said something about how strong I am to live my life as a queer parent, but I'm not stronger than any other parent. I just have to watch out even more for my kids to try to protect them from the effects of having queer parents. I can't protect them from everything though, and your political party is working to take away my marriage and my husband's right to exist in public spaces. Maybe you care or live a queer person. Maybe you've found that unicorn of a gay republican that assures you you're right. I'd say go to pride and meet with and talk to queer people, but you're unwilling to hear anyone else's view. You want your freedom and your guns to live your life and your values to dictate how others live theirs. I can't believe I let myself read this shit in the morning. x 1000
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Post by teen persuasion on Jun 21, 2022 8:22:53 GMT -5
Interesting - the ad at the top of the page this morning is for Ru Paul Drag Race All Stars. Considering how family-friendly Proboards wants our discussions to remain, I guess that means drag queens ARE approved as family-friendly entertainment.
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