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Post by scgal on Jun 16, 2022 13:21:14 GMT -5
Are the dermatologists, personal physicians, and gynecologists that you go to 'so-called' doctors, or are they real doctors? Witchdoctors
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 16, 2022 13:26:13 GMT -5
Are the dermatologists, personal physicians, and gynecologists that you go to 'so-called' doctors, or are they real doctors? Witchdoctors More like "Which doctors"? So-called doctors or real doctors? When you call for an appointment, do you say "I'd like to see my 'so-called gynecologist?' It's really offensive, but that's in your wheelhouse.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 16, 2022 13:29:30 GMT -5
Are the dermatologists, personal physicians, and gynecologists that you go to 'so-called' doctors, or are they real doctors? I was so disappointed reading the sentence all the way through I was hoping you were going to ask if it's been considered they might be the ones in the dog masks. Oh Pulmonary . . .
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 16, 2022 13:36:24 GMT -5
Are the dermatologists, personal physicians, and gynecologists that you go to 'so-called' doctors, or are they real doctors? Witchdoctors A gyno is a witch doctor? Whatttttttt? Then what kind of "real doctor" did you see when you were pregnant?
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Post by tallguy on Jun 16, 2022 13:42:49 GMT -5
Like they do in South Carolina. it's their right Yes it is, until their actions infringe on the rights of others. Thoughts and beliefs are protected. Actions are not. It is also true that everyone else in this society has the right to criticize or ostracize them for those beliefs, and to question what type of person one has to be to actually hold those beliefs. People may have freedom of expression, but there is no concurrent freedom from consequences.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 16, 2022 14:00:23 GMT -5
I'll repeat I don't think kids should be exposed to it. I'm not projecting anything. I highly doubt anyone on this board is qualified to say it's good for a child to be subject to people walking around with dildos hanging off their head and shown they are submissive to another. But we think it's okay in this country for our elected officials to be on national TV swinging rifles around proudly declaring they are going to go to war against those who disagree with their views of America. The guy with the dildo on his head isn't threatening anyone. It's not like he's threatening to shove it up your backside if you don't support LBGTQ rights. He's a guy wearing a dildo minding his own business at an event that embraces sexuality in all it's forms. I'd rather my child be "subjected" to someone peaceful who represents accepting who you are than someone who implies they are willing to murder people who dare have a different viewpoint. We have a town named Dildo. Just saying.....
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 16, 2022 14:02:02 GMT -5
Are the dermatologists, personal physicians, and gynecologists that you go to 'so-called' doctors, or are they real doctors? I was so disappointed reading the sentence all the way through I was hoping you were going to ask if it's been considered they might be the ones in the dog masks. Oh Pulmonary . . . Sorry. They could very well be.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 16, 2022 14:16:39 GMT -5
Don't dish it out if you can't take it. You questioned my competence on a different thread, and claimed your daughter has competence without any background as to why, exactly what you accuse me of doing. your competence that was questioned was to knowledge to damage of gunshot wounds to various calibers. Nothing actual medical. I was nothing to your skill of being a dr. I will stand by that. I guess you forgot this post: I surely hope you diagnose medical issues better than comprehending a post. What I say and I will put this very simply is I see people spending a lot of money before they pay their student loans yet they complain that they cannot pay their loans off. To which I would like to see a study done on that subject. Not once did I ever post that those people are undeserving. I wonder how many dems jump to conclusions like this.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 16, 2022 14:17:16 GMT -5
Are the dermatologists, personal physicians, and gynecologists that you go to 'so-called' doctors, or are they real doctors? I was so disappointed reading the sentence all the way through I was hoping you were going to ask if it's been considered they might be the ones in the dog masks. Oh Pulmonary . . . Not my style
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Post by scgal on Jun 16, 2022 14:50:11 GMT -5
A gyno is a witch doctor? Whatttttttt? Then what kind of "real doctor" did you see when you were pregnant? omg I was being sarcastic. You people so worked up
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 16, 2022 14:53:37 GMT -5
At least they can say gay in NYC and...... the GOP is always talking about local rights. what happened to that?
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 16, 2022 14:56:09 GMT -5
A gyno is a witch doctor? Whatttttttt? Then what kind of "real doctor" did you see when you were pregnant? omg I was being sarcastic. You people so worked up Uh well, given some of the other 'out there' shit you've said, you'll have to understand why no one picks up on your 'sarcasm'.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 16, 2022 17:08:16 GMT -5
When my kids were real little - like 3 years old - we accidentally got in the traffic leaving the pride parade. We ended up next to a float with a couple of drag queens. They were waving at my kids and talking to them through the open window. My kids were so excited. She was sparkly and animated and fantastic. They could not peel their eyes away from her.
That is exactly who should be reading them books. Someone who is exciting and dramatic and thoroughly engaging. Kids would be so drawn to the experience. I wish drag queen story book hour was a thing when my kids were little. They would have loved it. Maybe they would be better readers.
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Post by ripvanwinkle on Jun 16, 2022 22:31:09 GMT -5
I will decry any protest groups, whether they be BLM (riots and burning in 2020), Antifa, Proud Boys, Latter Day Saints, Jehovah Witness, Christian, Buddhist, KKK, right and left wing groups, Democrats or Republicans, pro and anti abortion etc that partake in any violence or riots of any kind and feel they are superior to anybody. In my book they are terrorists and should be prosecuted as such. What is up with you starting your protest rants with BLM? Why not start with The Proud Boys or KKK or the teaching Sisters of St. Joseph (right up there as being as violent as members of the LDS)? Ok, fine. Will this unhurt your feelings? I put BLM last. Still does not change my mind on terrorist groups that espouses violence:
I will decry any protest groups, whether they be Antifa, Proud Boys, Latter Day Saints, Jehovah Witness, Christian, Buddhist, KKK, right and left wing groups, Democrats or Republicans, pro and anti abortion and BLM, etc that partake in any violence or riots of any kind and feel they are superior to anybody. In my book they are terrorists and should be prosecuted as such.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 16, 2022 22:47:08 GMT -5
What is up with you starting your protest rants with BLM? Why not start with The Proud Boys or KKK or the teaching Sisters of St. Joseph (right up there as being as violent as members of the LDS)? Ok, fine. Will this unhurt your feelings? I put BLM last. Still does not change my mind on terrorist groups that espouses violence:
I will decry any protest groups, whether they be Antifa, Proud Boys, Latter Day Saints, Jehovah Witness, Christian, Buddhist, KKK, right and left wing groups, Democrats or Republicans, pro and anti abortion and BLM, etc that partake in any violence or riots of any kind and feel they are superior to anybody. In my book they are terrorists and should be prosecuted as such.
Beside ringing your home doorbell, what other violent things have Jehovah Witnesses done?
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 16, 2022 22:57:02 GMT -5
What is up with you starting your protest rants with BLM? Why not start with The Proud Boys or KKK or the teaching Sisters of St. Joseph (right up there as being as violent as members of the LDS)? Ok, fine. Will this unhurt your feelings? I put BLM last. Still does not change my mind on terrorist groups that espouses violence:
I will decry any protest groups, whether they be Antifa, Proud Boys, Latter Day Saints, Jehovah Witness, Christian, Buddhist, KKK, right and left wing groups, Democrats or Republicans, pro and anti abortion and BLM, etc that partake in any violence or riots of any kind and feel they are superior to anybody. In my book they are terrorists and should be prosecuted as such.
I'll bet you were OK with the riots on Jan 6th, by the 'patriots'.
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 16, 2022 23:19:50 GMT -5
Ok, fine. Will this unhurt your feelings? I put BLM last. Still does not change my mind on terrorist groups that espouses violence:
I will decry any protest groups, whether they be Antifa, Proud Boys, Latter Day Saints, Jehovah Witness, Christian, Buddhist, KKK, right and left wing groups, Democrats or Republicans, pro and anti abortion and BLM, etc that partake in any violence or riots of any kind and feel they are superior to anybody. In my book they are terrorists and should be prosecuted as such.
I'll bet you were OK with the riots on Jan 6th, by the 'patriots'. Every single person who scaled the walls, stormed the doors, or entered that building should have been shot. It was true on that day and it is still true today. Peaceable assembly and protest outside the grounds is acceptable. What happened on January 6 was not that. Well said TG. I concur. I'm all for peaceful demonstrations and free speech but as soon as it becomes a mob violence, severe actions have to be taken. ymam.proboards.com/post/3353720/quote/66043
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 17, 2022 7:35:06 GMT -5
But he agrees with them. He has “concerns” about the election. He is not sure Biden is the legally elected president of the US. Thinks the Republicans should have the right to have their own hearings about January 6, despite having every opportunity to join the committee. I don’t think he deserves much credit
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Post by giramomma on Jun 17, 2022 8:31:07 GMT -5
Everyone says that shit, yet when COVID broke out, everyone came to us for treatment. As is the case for when everyone else gets sick. So, if you believe that we are incompetent, you are free to treat yourself, take out your own appendix, or treat your own gunshot wound. Life expectancy has increased by over 30 years in the last 100, death rates for cancer and heart disease are down. Pretty good in my opinion for people who you look down upon. so you are saying that everyone in your class was top notch? I'm not saying there is not good medical professionals. I'm saying the guy who barely got by is practicing with a little help from the internet. I see dr's all the time gynecology, personal phys, dermatologist. Can anyone here say they never got a second opinion or changed dr's because they were not satisfied with the level of care? I never got a second opinion on care. I actually was pretty damn impressed with the cancer treatment I got during Covid. I didn't even know how burned out the medical staff were while they were treating me.
I did get a new ob for my last kid. He was an asshole. He had it out for me because I was old and fat when I was pregnant with my 4th. He actually did strongly hint that if I was carrying a downs kid, that I should abort. Now, I had him as an ob for my 3rd kid. I was 36, which was still acceptable age wise. A little lighter, but he did not treat me the same way. In fact, he was perfectly lovely. I also have access to some of the top care in my state. I think that makes a difference.
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 17, 2022 9:22:55 GMT -5
But he agrees with them. He has “concerns” about the election. He is not sure Biden is the legally elected president of the US. Thinks the Republicans should have the right to have their own hearings about January 6, despite having every opportunity to join the committee. I don’t think he deserves much credit My post had nothing to do with ripvanwinkle . I'll bet you were OK with the riots on Jan 6th, by the 'patriots'. I was just letting weltschmerz know she lost her bet.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 17, 2022 12:10:00 GMT -5
so you are saying that everyone in your class was top notch? I'm not saying there is not good medical professionals. I'm saying the guy who barely got by is practicing with a little help from the internet. I see dr's all the time gynecology, personal phys, dermatologist. Can anyone here say they never got a second opinion or changed dr's because they were not satisfied with the level of care? I never got a second opinion on care. I actually was pretty damn impressed with the cancer treatment I got during Covid. I didn't even know how burned out the medical staff were while they were treating me.
I did get a new ob for my last kid. He was an asshole. He had it out for me because I was old and fat when I was pregnant with my 4th. He actually did strongly hint that if I was carrying a downs kid, that I should abort. Now, I had him as an ob for my 3rd kid. I was 36, which was still acceptable age wise. A little lighter, but he did not treat me the same way. In fact, he was perfectly lovely. I also have access to some of the top care in my state. I think that makes a difference.
quality of care is not the issue in the US. neither is delivery, which is also expeditious. it is cost of care, which provides a barrier to entry, particularly to the uninsured. edit: to be clear, if we did everything we do at half the cost, we would rank in the top 20 healthcare systems in the world, rather than 37th. still not "great", but "better". as it stands today, we rank alongside Canada and Costa Rica due to our outrageous cost and poor access for poor people.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 17, 2022 14:50:02 GMT -5
I never got a second opinion on care. I actually was pretty damn impressed with the cancer treatment I got during Covid. I didn't even know how burned out the medical staff were while they were treating me.
I did get a new ob for my last kid. He was an asshole. He had it out for me because I was old and fat when I was pregnant with my 4th. He actually did strongly hint that if I was carrying a downs kid, that I should abort. Now, I had him as an ob for my 3rd kid. I was 36, which was still acceptable age wise. A little lighter, but he did not treat me the same way. In fact, he was perfectly lovely. I also have access to some of the top care in my state. I think that makes a difference.
quality of care is not the issue in the US. neither is delivery, which is also expeditious. it is cost of care, which provides a barrier to entry, particularly to the uninsured. edit: to be clear, if we did everything we do at half the cost, we would rank in the top 20 healthcare systems in the world, rather than 37th. still not "great", but "better". as it stands today, we rank alongside Canada and Costa Rica due to our outrageous cost and poor access for poor people. The next three countries in the ranking — the U.K., Germany, and New Zealand — perform very similarly to one another (Exhibit 2). The U.S. ranks #11 — last. Exhibit 2 shows the extent to which the U.S. is an outlier: its performance falls well below the average of the other countries and far below the two countries ranked directly above it, Switzerland and Canada. In fact, the U.S. is such an outlier that we have calculated the average performance based on the other 10 countries, excluding the U.S. (see How We Measured Performance). The U.S. is last on all domains of performance except care process, on which it ranks #2. www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2021/aug/mirror-mirror-2021-reflecting-poorly#rank
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 17, 2022 15:25:16 GMT -5
we really have SO much work to do here, and NOBODY talks about it. even Democrats don't.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 17, 2022 16:03:08 GMT -5
we really have SO much work to do here, and NOBODY talks about it. even Democrats don't. #sad Sure, like the Republicans will let them do it. It's always like a game of tug-of-war, and nobody ever wins.
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Post by scgal on Jun 17, 2022 19:09:09 GMT -5
we really have SO much work to do here, and NOBODY talks about it. even Democrats don't. #sad Yet here I thought obamacare was supposed to remedy our health care issues. Quality, affordable healthcare for everyone.
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we really have SO much work to do here, and NOBODY talks about it. even Democrats don't. #sad Yet here I thought obamacare was supposed to remedy our health care issues. Quality, affordable healthcare for everyone. Enough with the nonsense. It was a start, and it has helped insure a large number of people. Unfortunately, too many republican states refused to expand Medicaid, which blunted the effect. Republicans spent a decade vilifying it and trying to end it, instead of working yo improve it. It was based on a conservative plan, and had been approved in MA when Romney was governor. But continue with those right wing talking points. One day you may actually get a clue
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we really have SO much work to do here, and NOBODY talks about it. even Democrats don't. #sad Yet here I thought obamacare was supposed to remedy our health care issues. Quality, affordable healthcare for everyone. You really have no clue about the history of the ACA, do you?
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Post by scgal on Jun 17, 2022 19:20:22 GMT -5
Yet here I thought obamacare was supposed to remedy our health care issues. Quality, affordable healthcare for everyone. Enough with the nonsense. It was a start, and it has helped insure a large number of people. Unfortunately, too many republican states refused to expand Medicaid, which blunted the effect. Republicans spent a decade vilifying it and trying to end it, instead of working yo improve it. It was based on a conservative plan, and had been approved in MA when Romney was governor. But continue with those right wing talking points. One day you may actually get a clue The plan as well intended as it might was / is a failure. It had to be pushed thru because they knew it was full of shit. Yes it did help many yet at the same time failed to deliver. Don't blame the republicans for ACA failure they just ignore the health care crisis.
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Post by scgal on Jun 17, 2022 19:23:44 GMT -5
Yet here I thought obamacare was supposed to remedy our health care issues. Quality, affordable healthcare for everyone. You really have no clue about the history of the ACA, do you? probably know as much or more than most here. I actually down loaded and printed the whole damn thing. Spent the next 8 mos reading and looking up what the hell I was reading.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 17, 2022 19:26:26 GMT -5
Enough with the nonsense. It was a start, and it has helped insure a large number of people. Unfortunately, too many republican states refused to expand Medicaid, which blunted the effect. Republicans spent a decade vilifying it and trying to end it, instead of working yo improve it. It was based on a conservative plan, and had been approved in MA when Romney was governor. But continue with those right wing talking points. One day you may actually get a clue The plan as well intended as it might was / is a failure. It had to be pushed thru because they knew it was full of shit. Yes it did help many yet at the same time failed to deliver. Don't blame the republicans for ACA failure they just ignore the health care crisis. Again, you are completely wrong. Republicans refused to negotiate, so it had to pass only with democratic votes. It was based on plans that conservative think tanks had come up with. Massachusetts had I acted it. Republicans immediately went on the offensive and attacked it, and made public opinion extremely negative. States refused to enact it, so of course it did not work as intended. Yet, even with all that, it improved health metrics in the US. You can’t possibly think you understand this better than I do. Unless your MLS daughter is an expert on this too.
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