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Post by tallguy on Apr 27, 2024 21:41:24 GMT -5
sorry, but the NY court does not march to the orders of Biden. Bragg is not a Biden appointee, doesn't work for the DOJ, etc. he also sat on this case for 2 years before he brought it. was that ALSO Biden's fault? you really need to stop regurgitating Trump talking points. this one, in particular, is utterly absurd. Trump is on trial because of his crimes. no other reason. let me ask you this, rip- if a BIDEN were on trial for the same crimes, and TRUMP was president, would you be making the same case against TRUMP? There are 2 sides to a coin. I just happen to have the other side than you do. And I would side with anyone facing obvious malicious prosecution. This is nothing more than a blatant scheme to keep Trump off the campaign trail by any means. The difference being that we are looking at the coin, while you are holding up your side of the coin to a funhouse mirror and looking at the reflection. Grossly distorted, and all of the detail lost.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 27, 2024 21:51:37 GMT -5
sorry, but the NY court does not march to the orders of Biden. Bragg is not a Biden appointee, doesn't work for the DOJ, etc. he also sat on this case for 2 years before he brought it. was that ALSO Biden's fault? you really need to stop regurgitating Trump talking points. this one, in particular, is utterly absurd. Trump is on trial because of his crimes. no other reason. let me ask you this, rip- if a BIDEN were on trial for the same crimes, and TRUMP was president, would you be making the same case against TRUMP? There are 2 sides to a coin. I just happen to have the other side than you do. And I would side with anyone facing obvious malicious prosecution. This is nothing more than a blatant scheme to keep Trump off the campaign trail by any means. Nice try. Trump could have been on the campaign trail had he and his lawyers not filed so many motions to delay his trials.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 27, 2024 21:57:11 GMT -5
sorry, but the NY court does not march to the orders of Biden. Bragg is not a Biden appointee, doesn't work for the DOJ, etc. he also sat on this case for 2 years before he brought it. was that ALSO Biden's fault? you really need to stop regurgitating Trump talking points. this one, in particular, is utterly absurd. Trump is on trial because of his crimes. no other reason. let me ask you this, rip- if a BIDEN were on trial for the same crimes, and TRUMP was president, would you be making the same case against TRUMP? There are 2 sides to a coin. I just happen to have the other side than you do. And I would side with anyone facing obvious malicious prosecution. This is nothing more than a blatant scheme to keep Trump off the campaign trail by any means. You also might want to familiarize yourself with the four different lawsuits filed against trump. Read the 'Main article' of each one. Indictments against Donald Trump
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 27, 2024 22:16:22 GMT -5
sorry, but the NY court does not march to the orders of Biden. Bragg is not a Biden appointee, doesn't work for the DOJ, etc. he also sat on this case for 2 years before he brought it. was that ALSO Biden's fault? you really need to stop regurgitating Trump talking points. this one, in particular, is utterly absurd. Trump is on trial because of his crimes. no other reason. let me ask you this, rip- if a BIDEN were on trial for the same crimes, and TRUMP was president, would you be making the same case against TRUMP? There are 2 sides to a coin. I just happen to have the other side than you do. And I would side with anyone facing obvious malicious prosecution. This is nothing more than a blatant scheme to keep Trump off the campaign trail by any means. What does a candidate gain by being on the "campaign trail"? Seriously. If Joe Biden met you at the door of your local grocery store and reached out to shake your hand, would you shake it and then vote for him in November? Do you think that if Trump held a rally in Seattle, tallguy and dondub would vote for him?
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Post by tallguy on Apr 27, 2024 22:36:49 GMT -5
There are 2 sides to a coin. I just happen to have the other side than you do. And I would side with anyone facing obvious malicious prosecution. This is nothing more than a blatant scheme to keep Trump off the campaign trail by any means. What does a candidate gain by being on the "campaign trail"? Seriously. If Joe Biden met you at the door of your local grocery store and reached out to shake your hand, would you shake it and then vote for him in November? Do you think that if Trump held a rally in Seattle, tallguy and dondub would vote for him? Normally I wouldn't do this, but I'm pretty sure I can speak for dondub on this one.... That's gonna be a hard no from both of us.
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Post by ripvanwinkle on Apr 28, 2024 0:37:39 GMT -5
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Post by dondubble on Apr 28, 2024 0:59:47 GMT -5
[b Dear rip, While you are whining the talking point that he is denied campaigning, I’m on another board that says all of this is raising his numbers so it doesn’t matter. Coming and going.
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Post by tallguy on Apr 28, 2024 1:05:42 GMT -5
No, it doesn't mean that at all. We have gone over this dozens of times, and likely a bunch of them in response to you posting the same stupid sh** again and again. If it were possible for this to mean less than nothing, it would. I know that you care not at all about what is actually true, but I really wish you would start to care about making yourself look like an idiot. Maybe we wouldn't have to read so much stupid sh** all the time.
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Post by Opti on Apr 28, 2024 5:29:01 GMT -5
No, it doesn't mean that at all. We have gone over this dozens of times, and likely a bunch of them in response to you posting the same stupid sh** again and again. If it were possible for this to mean less than nothing, it would. I know that you care not at all about what is actually true, but I really wish you would start to care about making yourself look like an idiot. Maybe we wouldn't have to read so much stupid sh** all the time. Its an "article" from Fox no less. Its not surprising they always pick their competition so they can look good, but I find it interesting that a newspaper that is only online or in paper form is pretty close to their stats. Fox News Digital finished No.1 with 4.9 billion multiplatform views during the news-heavy quarter compared to 4.5 billion for The New York Times
I also found this stat very curious given many Fox viewers feel Biden's vote total of 81 Million was too high. So how many of these "unique" visitors are American and not bots? Fox News Digital also had an average of 111 million monthly total digital multiplatform unique visitors.
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Post by tbop77 on Apr 28, 2024 7:11:07 GMT -5
Did they have to start telling the truth since the settlement to Dominion? I was under the impression Fox became part of the deep state after calling the election for Biden and MAGA turned on them.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 28, 2024 8:58:10 GMT -5
Yes they are doing something right, far right.
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 28, 2024 10:08:37 GMT -5
There are 2 sides to a coin. I just happen to have the other side than you do. And I would side with anyone facing obvious malicious prosecution. This is nothing more than a blatant scheme to keep Trump off the campaign trail by any means. What does a candidate gain by being on the "campaign trail"? Seriously. If Joe Biden met you at the door of your local grocery store and reached out to shake your hand, would you shake it and then vote for him in November? Do you think that if Trump held a rally in Seattle, tallguy and dondub would vote for him? I think Trump especially does not gain much by campaigning as his recent rallies always have embarrassing moments of word salad and incoherent speech. He’d do better letting his various kids and minions rally for him, showing artfully edited videos of Trump looking spry and intelligent. The problem is Trump is a kind of vampire who needs a room full of cheering MAGAS to keep his batteries charged.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 28, 2024 10:09:38 GMT -5
From your linked article: So there is one digital conservative network, but two 'liberal' networks in the quoted material. So lets merge The New York Times and CNN into one digital network assuming NYT viewers don't read CNN article and vice versa. Which mean more viewers for the new merged 'liberal' network. Using the stats in the quoted paragraph, Fox Digital would have 4.9 billion multiplatform views while the new digital news source of the now one 'liberal' digital news source named 'New York Times' would have a total around 8.2 billion multiplatform views as the CNN readers now read digital New York Times. Now more than likely many digital CNN multiplatform views also read the digital The New York Times. Let's say 75% view both. So we cannot double count the views. But 25% of digital CNN's multiplatform views do not read digital The New York Times. So adding only 25% of CNN's 3.7 billion digital multiplatform views to the now only New York Times multiplatform views would equal 925 million new multiplatform views for a total of 5.4 billion multiplatform views of The New York Times. And if MSNBC were to also merge with the new New York Times and CNN digital site, the numbers would be even higher than 5.4 billion multiplatform views mentioned above.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 28, 2024 11:13:58 GMT -5
sorry, but the NY court does not march to the orders of Biden. Bragg is not a Biden appointee, doesn't work for the DOJ, etc. he also sat on this case for 2 years before he brought it. was that ALSO Biden's fault? you really need to stop regurgitating Trump talking points. this one, in particular, is utterly absurd. Trump is on trial because of his crimes. no other reason. let me ask you this, rip- if a BIDEN were on trial for the same crimes, and TRUMP was president, would you be making the same case against TRUMP? There are 2 sides to a coin. I just happen to have the other side than you do. And I would side with anyone facing obvious malicious prosecution. This is nothing more than a blatant scheme to keep Trump off the campaign trail by any means. Again, if Trump is innocent, what does he have to worry about? Why did he try so hard to delay the trial to after the election, because if he was innocent he could have disposed of this last year and he would be free to campaign to his hearts desire? You do realize he has already lost 3 cases( not to mention the 62 he filed about the election that you still refuse to accept as legitimate)? Finally, you still haven’t answered the question regarding an all white jury and a black defendant. Is that fair? Could a “liberal” get a fair trial in deep red Alabama? If not, then why should I care if you think Trump can’t get a fair trial in NYC?
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Post by Opti on Apr 28, 2024 12:06:29 GMT -5
sorry, but the NY court does not march to the orders of Biden. Bragg is not a Biden appointee, doesn't work for the DOJ, etc. he also sat on this case for 2 years before he brought it. was that ALSO Biden's fault? you really need to stop regurgitating Trump talking points. this one, in particular, is utterly absurd. Trump is on trial because of his crimes. no other reason. let me ask you this, rip- if a BIDEN were on trial for the same crimes, and TRUMP was president, would you be making the same case against TRUMP? There are 2 sides to a coin. I just happen to have the other side than you do. And I would side with anyone facing obvious malicious prosecution. This is nothing more than a blatant scheme to keep Trump off the campaign trail by any means. But he's not facing malicious prosecution, just prosecution he delayed until it finally got dealt with. I don't get why you want to believe these lies especially since Trump is still holding multiple rallies. Really the only kind of campaigning he does. Trump has been campaigning since the last election. No one in my lifetime has campaigned more and more often than Trump for the Presidency. I don't know why you want to pretend court cases are keeping him off the campaign trail. Court isn't in session on the weekends. He could have rallies every weekend if he wanted to. Maybe he just wants you to feel sorry for him and buy tickets to the rallies he is having.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 12:37:33 GMT -5
sorry, but the NY court does not march to the orders of Biden. Bragg is not a Biden appointee, doesn't work for the DOJ, etc. he also sat on this case for 2 years before he brought it. was that ALSO Biden's fault? you really need to stop regurgitating Trump talking points. this one, in particular, is utterly absurd. Trump is on trial because of his crimes. no other reason. let me ask you this, rip- if a BIDEN were on trial for the same crimes, and TRUMP was president, would you be making the same case against TRUMP? There are 2 sides to a coin. I just happen to have the other side than you do. And I would side with anyone facing obvious malicious prosecution. This is nothing more than a blatant scheme to keep Trump off the campaign trail by any means. you didn't answer the question. if Trump were in the WH, and Biden was facing 88 felony counts, would you be taking the position that it was an unjust political persecution? there is zero evidence to back up your final assertion. there is STRONG evidence that the only reason Trump is running is to lessen his odds of getting held to account. have you considered that?
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 12:42:35 GMT -5
congrats! they are only trailing NPR by 75% now! a whole 2M viewers a week, approximately 1.5% of the voting population!!! WOW!!!! (sarcasm off) FOX is the #1 among Cable News. that makes them the Keuffel & Esser of news media. if you don't know that name, look it up.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 12:44:30 GMT -5
Did they have to start telling the truth since the settlement to Dominion? I was under the impression Fox became part of the deep state after calling the election for Biden and MAGA turned on them. they have a couple of smart, incisive liberals in their programming now. they also have jettisoned Tucker J6 Carlson and the sexual predators. that probably helps attract a small number of liberals, as well.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 12:51:21 GMT -5
note to rip and others:
i would appreciate it if you would refrain from bringing in (wildly) off-topic subjects to this thread, as it diminishes the value of this thread as a resource for myself and others on the board.
tyia,
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 12:53:27 GMT -5
to be clear, if the tables were turned, i would not be taking Biden's side. my side is in favor of the courts and justice, the ONLY remaining branch of government that is still functioning, and only by a thread.
i reserve the right to reverse that position if the SCOTUS upholds absolute immunity for the president.
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Post by ripvanwinkle on Apr 28, 2024 15:20:06 GMT -5
There are 2 sides to a coin. I just happen to have the other side than you do. And I would side with anyone facing obvious malicious prosecution. This is nothing more than a blatant scheme to keep Trump off the campaign trail by any means. you didn't answer the question. if Trump were in the WH, and Biden was facing 88 felony counts, would you be taking the position that it was an unjust political persecution? there is zero evidence to back up your final assertion. there is STRONG evidence that the only reason Trump is running is to lessen his odds of getting held to account. have you considered that? As I said above, I would side with Biden if the roles were reversed and faced malicious prosecution.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 15:23:15 GMT -5
you didn't answer the question. if Trump were in the WH, and Biden was facing 88 felony counts, would you be taking the position that it was an unjust political persecution? there is zero evidence to back up your final assertion. there is STRONG evidence that the only reason Trump is running is to lessen his odds of getting held to account. have you considered that? As I said above, I would side with Biden if the roles were reversed and faced malicious prosecution. ah, ok. so you would side would both. i would side with neither. that really is quite a difference. for the record, i don't believe in malicious prosecution, in the general sense, nor do i believe it in this specific sense. therefore, i am going to side with the Judicial branch over anyone that THINKS they are being prosecuted maliciously. if there is malicious prosecution, it can be appealed. that is how it works. so, from this, i gather you don't believe in the judiciary. how odd.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 15:24:38 GMT -5
for those of you interested in the SCOTUS case, i recommend watching this:
i have found Popak to be right almost always. and i think he is right here. this will be referred back to either appeals or Chutkan. i hope it goes back to Chutkan for reasons i will give later.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 28, 2024 15:25:22 GMT -5
Cheer up Rip - if the Supreme Court sides with Trump and says it is legal for a President to do anything as long as it is for the good of the country - Biden can have Trump murdered and the Don won’t have any legal troubles - and neither will Biden.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 15:30:09 GMT -5
still listening to that/\. it is a BRILLIANT analysis.
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Post by ripvanwinkle on Apr 28, 2024 15:31:24 GMT -5
congrats! they are only trailing NPR by 75% now! a whole 2M viewers a week, approximately 1.5% of the voting population!!! WOW!!!! (sarcasm off) FOX is the #1 among Cable News. that makes them the Keuffel & Esser of news media. if you don't know that name, look it up. You got me on that one. What does slide rules have to do with Fox News being #1 in cable news?
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 15:32:15 GMT -5
Cheer up Rip - if the Supreme Court sides with Trump and says it is legal for a President to do anything as long as it is for the good of the country - Biden can have Trump murdered and the Don won’t have any legal troubles - and neither will Biden. bingo!!!! give the woman a quepie doll!
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 15:33:02 GMT -5
congrats! they are only trailing NPR by 75% now! a whole 2M viewers a week, approximately 1.5% of the voting population!!! WOW!!!! (sarcasm off) FOX is the #1 among Cable News. that makes them the Keuffel & Esser of news media. if you don't know that name, look it up. You got me on that one. What does slide rules have to do with Fox News being #1 in cable news? cable news is going the way of wooden teeth and slide rules, rip. you know that, right?
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Apr 28, 2024 15:50:53 GMT -5
Cheer up Rip - if the Supreme Court sides with Trump and says it is legal for a President to do anything as long as it is for the good of the country - Biden can have Trump murdered and the Don won’t have any legal troubles - and neither will Biden. bingo!!!! give the woman a quepie doll! Do you mean Kewpie?
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 28, 2024 16:26:44 GMT -5
Cheer up Rip - if the Supreme Court sides with Trump and says it is legal for a President to do anything as long as it is for the good of the country - Biden can have Trump murdered and the Don won’t have any legal troubles - and neither will Biden. Might want to deal with a couple of lifetime appointments as well.
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