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Post by wvugurl26 on May 10, 2021 9:33:30 GMT -5
My FIL didn't want it at all. He caved if he could do J&J. His sister has cancer and is undergoing chemo so he decided to get it to protect her.
I've heard even J&J prevented hospitalizations and death. And that's the ultimate goal so as long as it does that then it helps.
My needle phobic cousin also got J&J. I think it could be a good option for the needle phobic and the skeptical. It's easier to convince them to get one shot versus two.
I know the mass vaccine sites here at least have some Pfizer on hand for the 16-18 group. One site had J&J and I think the rest were Pfizer normally.
The health departments and pharmacies seem split between Moderna and Pfizer. We got Moderna.
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Post by billisonboard on May 10, 2021 9:53:32 GMT -5
Logic offers that the different refrigeration requirements have to play a part in distribution decisions.
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Post by chiver78 on May 10, 2021 10:10:12 GMT -5
from the 10k ft view, yes. I'm curious how most of the Cape Cod sites are storing the Pfizer vax with the harsher storage requirements, for instance. there's only so much hospital storage space down here, I'm wondering how much was taken on by the Joint Base military operations. my 1st shot was administered by Army Reserves medics at that location. the guy that gave me mine in particular said that his group had been rotated through the larger sites as they came online in the system.
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Post by billisonboard on May 10, 2021 10:21:31 GMT -5
Transport also has to factor in. No idea where Pfizer vaccine is being manufactured but assume cost and risk of transporting it far wouldn't be best practice.
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Post by chiver78 on May 10, 2021 10:57:57 GMT -5
Moderna's main mfg site is right here in MA, not half an hour from my house. that said, I'm not sure where/who is packaging it (Finished Drug Product processing is a common production step to outsource to a CMO) this article is from early March, but it doesn't say where Moderna is packaging. it sounds like Pfizer's FDP site is in MI.
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Post by Ryan on May 10, 2021 11:11:55 GMT -5
My dad is getting the J & J. Considering shots are the one thing he's terrified and he does spout off some of the conspiracy crap if it be one and done motivates him to get it I'm good with that. The rest of us have had the Pzier vaccine. I don't know anyone whose gotten Moderna. Itd be interesting to know about distribution. Around here, early on everyone was getting Moderna. Now it seems that Pfizer is more common.
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Post by notagain on May 10, 2021 11:16:16 GMT -5
Received 2nd Pfizer shot today!
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 10, 2021 11:32:15 GMT -5
Now that I think of it, brother wants only J&J. Not sure why DS is open to Pfizer but I’m not arguing with him on that! Which happens to be the least effective It will s not clear that it is less effective. Studies were done at different times and under different conditions. The only true way to know which is better would be to do a head to head stidy(which will not be done), or to collect data on the number of breakthrough infections and see the rate for each vaccine. J and J is an effective vaccine with some clear advantages, and is “good enough” to use
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 10, 2021 12:45:11 GMT -5
I guess I need to start pushing the vaccine again on my sister. I WILL NOT buy a plane ticket if she is not vaccinated, and I am looking at doing this in early July.
Now I need to figure out how to work it into the conversation. Blindsiding her with this discussion will not work, and she will only dig in her heels.
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Post by tractor on May 10, 2021 12:49:23 GMT -5
I guess I need to start pushing the vaccine again on my sister. I WILL NOT buy a plane ticket if she is not vaccinated, and I am looking at doing this in early July. Now I need to figure out how to work it into the conversation. Blindsiding her with this discussion will not work, and she will only dig in her heels. Seems simple enough “ I’m starting to finalize plans for our trip, they require a vaccine to travel, should I get you a ticket or not?” Of course, I don’t know your sister...,
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2021 12:54:01 GMT -5
Around here we seem to have a fair mix of Pfizer, Moderna and J&J being promoted at various vaccine sites. Our clinic chain only has Moderna at this point which was fine with us. We gave our Moderna shots a test today by deciding to actually sit down for soup at our local taqueria-first time since March 2020. I didn't know that TODAY is Mother's Day across Latin America . The usually 80% empty on Monday's place was 100% occupied today.
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Post by billisonboard on May 10, 2021 12:54:15 GMT -5
My hesitant wife has an appointment for Thursday morning for a first shot. A good thing is she has a back to back appointment at the same place to have a toe looked at. Please send her positive thoughts of holding strong. 🙏
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Post by movingforward on May 10, 2021 15:24:17 GMT -5
I know a few people that want the J&J because they say it is the only "real" vaccine. Whatever...I don't care... just get your ass vaccinated.
Most everyone I know received Moderna. There are a few on my board of directors that had hospital privileges and received Pfizer back in late December/early January. Most everyone else in my industry was vaccinated mid-January into February and Moderna was what was available.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 10, 2021 15:43:01 GMT -5
I guess I need to start pushing the vaccine again on my sister. I WILL NOT buy a plane ticket if she is not vaccinated, and I am looking at doing this in early July. Now I need to figure out how to work it into the conversation. Blindsiding her with this discussion will not work, and she will only dig in her heels. Seems simple enough “ I’m starting to finalize plans for our trip, they require a vaccine to travel, should I get you a ticket or not?” Of course, I don’t know your sister..., Yeah, this FDA approval issue is now her biggest bandwagon. I just tried a few minutes ago. I told her in no uncertain terms that she needed to be vaccinated before I purchase a plane ticket.
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Post by Lizard Queen on May 10, 2021 15:43:58 GMT -5
Seems like the county south of me has moderna, and otherwise nearby it's mostly Pfizer, though J&J is scattered throughout and mostly at the smaller pharmacies. Im glad I got Pfizer. My work colleague had an awful reaction to moderna.
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Post by TheOtherMe on May 10, 2021 16:08:53 GMT -5
All of my immediate family got Pfizer. Sister, BIL and I all got ours through Walgreens. The rest got it through our local hospital (the one where niece works).
Next county over is doing only Moderna.
I have no idea of how it's determined.
Sister, DN1 and I all had terrible reactions to Pfizer. It affects people differently but I kept telling myself that it meant it was doing it's thing.
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Post by chiver78 on May 10, 2021 16:18:01 GMT -5
I know a few people that want the J&J because they say it is the only "real" vaccine. Whatever...I don't care... just get your ass vaccinated.
Most everyone I know received Moderna. There are a few on my board of directors that had hospital privileges and received Pfizer back in late December/early January. Most everyone else in my industry was vaccinated mid-January into February and Moderna was what was available.
to the bolded, yes, 10000% yes. to the statement prior to that, the J&J is the only one approved in the US that used traditional vaccine development. for those that don't understand mRNA technology has been around for awhile, this is an unproven thing for them. doesn't matter that it's approved, and that lots of other people have been vaccinated with those flavors....to them it is unproven. you're not going to change their opinion. if they are up for the J&J, it's still a win.
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Post by teen persuasion on May 10, 2021 21:54:40 GMT -5
Had someone come in yesterday for a visit for a family member who explained why she wouldn't get the vaccine. When I heard the do your own research line I knew where the source had to be, and I was right. www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlson-claimed-dozens-people-day-are-dying-covid-19-vaccine-its-blatant-lieCarlson inaccurately asserted that thousands of people have died after receiving the COVID-19 vaccination, claiming that “between late December of 2020 and last month, a total of 3,362 people apparently died after getting the COVID vaccine in the United States” and that even though the data was “not quite up to date,” we “can assume that another 360 people at that rate have died in the 12 days since. You put it all together, and that is a total of 3,722 deaths. That’s almost 4,000 people who died after getting the COVID vaccines. The actual number is almost certainly higher than that, perhaps vastly higher than that.”The sensational claims Carlson is parroting regarding a mass of unaddressed potentially COVID-19 vaccine-related deaths have been circulating online and on social media for months, and they are based on deeply unreliable data from the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). VAERS allows the public open access to report incidents of adverse reactions to vaccinations.If these exaggerated numbers were correct, doing your research should include noting that over 109 million people have gotten the vaccine with a possible 3362 deaths. As of yesterday the US is nearing 33.5 Million cases of Covid with 595K deaths. I think Tucker Carlson's fear mongering has gotten RL people to think that if anyone dies for any reason after getting the vaccine, it must be due to the vaccine. Wasn’t tucker Carlson and faux news the ones crying last year saying that the CDC was attributing all deaths for someone who had covid to covid? Things like dying in a car accident, etc? While that was a bunch of bull, they spent months parroting that and saying that was “proof” covid wasn’t real. Now, it’s ok to do that with VAERS data? If it wasn’t ok for the CDC to “do” that with the disease, why is it ok to do that with the vaccine? I should have known Tucker Carlson was the source of mom's "facts". . She was parroting both that 3xxx number of deaths from the vaccine, and the idea that every death is attributed to Covid so the number of Covid deaths is completely unbelievable. Ohh, I wish I'd recognized that BS as coming from Tucker - I'd love to have pointed out that he's been vaxxed! Also would have loved to pass along Joy Reid's Tucker takedown - she really showed him to be ridiculous (Race Lady who went to Harvard). In other news, Cuomo announced the entire SUNY/CUNY system will require students to be vaccinated. I believe all the community colleges in the state are part of SUNY, too. Local news said 88% of students are either already in the process of being vaxxed, or planning on it soon. Those numbers are significantly higher than the general population.
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Post by movingforward on May 11, 2021 6:45:35 GMT -5
At least my dad will not watch Hannity or Tucker Carlson. He does watch faux news during the day. He actually flips back and forth between CNN and Fox, but seems to "believe" Fox. Honestly, I think he watches too much news in general. I don't think it's good for his mental health.
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Post by NastyWoman on May 11, 2021 14:49:23 GMT -5
A quick vaccine trip around the world: I (CA) have received Pfizer as that was what they had at the vaccination center when I got my first shot. The day I came in for the second shot new (first shot) recipients received Moderna. In the Netherlands my two brothers and two sisters (the other 2 are not yet eligible) all received Pfizer but they have increased the spacing between shots from 3 weeks to 8. In Germany DS2 will get Astro Zeneca as that is the first one available. DDIL has health issues so she is checking with her specialist which one is best for her to receive. Meanwhile in S'pore DS1 estimates that he will get his vaccine late next month/early July. He is really, really hoping for the J&J vaccine (needle phobia) but he will go and get whatever is available. Oh and I saw a video in which Fucker Carlson was raving about how the Covid problem is all Fauci's fault and why is there not an investigation going on into this man who is killing us with his mask mandates and his aversion for science? Carlson may have to be committed to the strumpets loony bin very soon IMO.
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Post by TheOtherMe on May 11, 2021 18:30:24 GMT -5
As you know DN1 and his wife came from Toronto to Iowa to get vaccinated. My understanding (as of yesterday) is they are still not eligible in Toronto. They are by age but you have to live in a hot spot and they don't. The vaccines are also spread out farther than 3/4 weeks between shots.
There is discussion of mixing the types of vaccines, but nothing has been decided.
Welcome home to Canada. They were notified yesterday that one of the security staff tested positive for covid.
They are still doing their 14 day quarantine, so can't go anywhere.
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Post by NastyWoman on May 11, 2021 21:32:39 GMT -5
As you know DN1 and his wife came from Toronto to Iowa to get vaccinated. My understanding (as of yesterday) is they are still not eligible in Toronto. They are by age but you have to live in a hot spot and they don't. The vaccines are also spread out farther than 3/4 weeks between shots. There is discussion of mixing the types of vaccines, but nothing has been decided. Welcome home to Canada. They were notified yesterday that one of the security staff tested positive for covid. They are still doing their 14 day quarantine, so can't go anywhere. I bet they are really happy that they decided to come to Iowa for their shots. And so are you because you got extra doses of baby snuggles (heck we have to look for upsides everywhere IMO)
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Post by TheOtherMe on May 12, 2021 7:43:10 GMT -5
They are extremely happy they came to the US for their vaccines. No one they know in their department has been vaccinated. They only know people through Zoom as they have not set foot on the campus.
The baby snuggles were a huge upside for me. I got to see him learn to stand up and learn all kinds of new words.
Now we wait for the border to open.
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Post by teen persuasion on May 12, 2021 8:54:41 GMT -5
If they want more people vaccinated, they have to do a better job of getting the word out about opportunities.
The school district here held a vax clinic yesterday, open to anyone in the community. It's DS5's HS, he was in class there yesterday, he had no advanced notice about it (he's already done with his 2 doses). I saw a tweet from the Superintendent and immediately retweeted on the library Twitter account (to help get the word out), only to realize the clinic was over. The local news had multiple stories about it on the various evening news hours, but that's after the fact, and useless.
I really hate hearing about events only after they are over. Promote them beforehand, please!
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Post by mollyanna58 on May 12, 2021 11:56:09 GMT -5
I spoke to a friend this morning, who will not get vaccinated. He read an article that if you take vitamins D and C and magnesium, then you don't need that unproven science vaccine.
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I spoke to a friend this morning, who will not get vaccinated. He read an article that if you take vitamins D and C and magnesium, then you don't need that unproven science vaccine. Duh, and if you get Covid, just pop a few fish tank cleaner tablets or shoot up with bleach. Some days, I'm not sure about Darwin's theory as the stupid ones seem to be multiplying.
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Post by haapai on May 12, 2021 12:49:52 GMT -5
Am I the only fully-vaccinated person here who is still pretty much staying home? I just don't want to be around the un-vaccinated idiots out there, or mistaken for one of them. Maybe I am trying to be some sort of role model. Maybe I am staying home because I don't want to get used to freedom this summer because I expect cases to climb this fall when we move back indoors.
I sure wish that I knew what was going on, because I'm pretty sure that I'm being a fool and spiteing myself.
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Post by Lizard Queen on May 12, 2021 13:17:19 GMT -5
We haven't really changed any level of going out into public pre vs. post vaccine. We are going back to the gym sometime soon, though, and will travel a bit more. We haven't changed much at all since our kids can't get vaxed yet.
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