Vaccinated

[moon/Laura]

I haven't scheduled my booster yet, but I (unfortunately) did have the opportunity to test how well the vaccine works. My brother in Utah is unvaxxed. His reasons are flimsy (based on legit pre-existing issues) and I highly doubt he consulted his doctor to get his/her opinion. He and his also unvaxxed wife are conservative, if that tells you anything. <sigh>

They were in town a couple of weeks ago, and we had dinner with him and my other brother on his last night in town. He texted me 2 days later and said he'd tested positive for covid. To be fair, he'd mentioned he'd been having headaches off and on before he came, but that isn't abnormal for him so he apparently didn't really think much of it. Anyway, I was NOT happy that he'd put us, not to mention who knows how many other people, at risk. I frequently go help a friend who has Parkinson's, either to help her at home when she can't move or to drive her places. I had already agreed to drive her to an appt today, but then I had to go get a test before I could. Luckily, my test was negative.

[teen persuasion]

So far this morning, I've helped 2 people register online for booster shots.   

Also renewed books for a household that's quarantining.

[Spellbound454]

We've got 22 cases now and there is evidence of community spread.
No-one has died but it takes people a while to die.... and those who are infected have been young. So as of yet we still don't know.

Quite easy to identify on a standard PCR because it doesn't have an S gene.....so they do something called an S gene target failure.

Then, since the other variants which don't have an S gene are rare... its more likely to be Omicron.
All positives and their contacts have to isolate.


We have got some measures in place (face masks testing) but not gone the full hog...... lets hope its enough
We do have a high vaccine take-up already..... and they are going to booster everyone over 12 in double quick time.

[debthaven]

Last night I suddenly realized that our booster appts (scheduled for 11 Dec) would have been 3 days past the new 7-month deadline set by the French gov't ... which meant we'd both lose our "vaccination passes". I don't know what would have happened, but I didn't want to find out!

It took me 2 hours, but I was able to find 2 spots at the vaccination center near school, so DH and I are both boosted as of late this afternoon! We had previously had AstraZeneca X 2, so we're happy we were able to get the Pfizer. 

I hope I don't have a reaction ... the timing isn't ideal for me since I have to be at school all day tomorrow and Thursday. But I'm very grateful I was able to find two spots at the last minute!!!

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

The horse is already stolen, folks.

Amsterdam went back and tested old samples taken prior to the release of information about the new variant.  Yep, they found the strain.

It is naive to think that closing borders is going to help at this point.  You can’t find something if you don’t look for it, and no one was looking for it.  The fact that it is already so widespread suggests (to me anyway) that it is very likely that it is controlled by the vaccine.  Otherwise there would have been a large increase of cases with the new and different symptoms.

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59473131 

[Opti]

Nov 30, 2021 14:25:43 GMT -5 debthaven said:

Last night I suddenly realized that our booster appts (which were scheduled for 11 Dec) would have been 3 days past the new 7-month deadline set by the French gov't ... which meant we'd both lose our "vaccination passes". I don't know what would have happened, but I didn't want to find out!

It took me 2 hours, but I was able to find 2 spots at the vaccination center near school, so DH and I are both boosted as of late this afternoon! We had previously had AstraZeneca X 2, so we're happy we were able to get the Pfizer. 

I hope I don't have a reaction ... the timing isn't ideal for me since I have to be at school all day tomorrow and Thursday. But I'm very grateful I was able to find two spots at the last minute!!!

That 7 months is quick. I'm just glad the US recently approved booster shots from those not 65 and over.

[Opti]

The US passed 800K deaths from Covid as of yesterday per Worldometer. 

[debthaven]

The Walk of the Penguin Mich I'm not surprised at all ... every time they go back to do more testing, they find that (whatever strain) was already present earlier than they thought.

I have several examples ... a close (French) friend whose entire family had "the worst flu they'd ever had" after vacationing in NY in Feb 2020.

Another close (American) friend who runs the English program for an art school here. Some of the professors (including my friend and her DH) had "the worst flu they'd ever had" in Jan 2020. After Covid became common knowledge, they checked the register, and found out that the January intake of Chinese students were all from Wuhan.

Your post makes me relieved! And I agree, closing borders now is closing the barn doors after the horse has escaped. 

DH and I are just deliriously happy that our health passes won't expire!!!

PS The Walk of the Penguin Mich that link is dead. I checked the BBC page but I wasn't sure which article you meant to link.

[pulmonarymd]

Nov 30, 2021 14:58:56 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

The horse is already stolen, folks.

Amsterdam went back and tested old samples taken prior to the release of information about the new variant.  Yep, they found the strain.

It is naive to think that closing borders is going to help at this point.  You can’t find something if you don’t look for it, and no one was looking for it.  The fact that it is already so widespread suggests (to me anyway) that it is very likely that it is controlled by the vaccine.  Otherwise there would have been a large increase of cases with the new and different symptoms.

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59473131 

Variant has been detected in Canada. Maybe we should close the Canadian border shown to keep the variant out.

The fantasy that we can keep these variants out is just that, is just that, a fantasy

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Nov 30, 2021 15:18:33 GMT -5 debthaven said:

The Walk of the Penguin Mich I'm not surprised at all ... every time they go back to do more testing, they find that (whatever strain) was already present earlier than they thought.

I have several examples ... a close (French) friend whose entire family had "the worst flu they'd ever had" after vacationing in NY in Feb 2020.

Another close (American) friend who runs the English program for an art school here. Some of the professors (including my friend and her DH) had "the worst flu they'd ever had" in Jan 2020. After Covid became common knowledge, they checked the register, and found out that the January intake of Chinese students were all from Wuhan.

Your post makes me relieved! And I agree, closing borders now is closing the barn doors after the horse has escaped. 

DH and I are just deliriously happy that our health passes won't expire!!!

PS The Walk of the Penguin Mich that link is dead. I checked the BBC page but I wasn't sure which article you meant to link.

Link comes up ok for me, it was just posted 6 hours ago….this is the article:
Covid: Omicron variant in Netherlands earlier than thought

[debthaven]

Thanks The Walk of the Penguin Mich ! 

[moon/Laura]

I just saw this on FB, though it was a different source.

Germam Dr. administers "homemade' vaccine at airport

Winfried Stöcker, a millionaire doctor from Germany, is facing criminal charges after vaccinating an estimated 20,000 people with a COVID-19 vaccine that he concocted, according to a report from The Irish Times.

Stöcker, who also is the owner of the Lübeck Airport in Germany, insists that his COVID-19 vaccine, which he called "Lubecavax," is 97 percent effective at preventing COVID-19 and is safe to be distributed as a three-dose course for full vaccination.

[haapai]

And we have our first US Omicron variant case.  Vaccinated, mild case, California, returned to US from SA on 11/22.  Definitely isolated, aggressive contact tracing promised. 

I wonder if the folks on his connecting flight from Newark or Atlanta will even be notified.  Technically, they were masked. 

ETA  CNN link

There's a certain irony in this case was detected in San Francisco instead of Atlanta. 

[Deleted]

Dec 1, 2021 8:37:41 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

I just saw this on FB, though it was a different source.

Germam Dr. administers "homemade' vaccine at airport

Winfried Stöcker, a millionaire doctor from Germany, is facing criminal charges after vaccinating an estimated 20,000 people with a COVID-19 vaccine that he concocted, according to a report from The Irish Times.

Stöcker, who also is the owner of the Lübeck Airport in Germany, insists that his COVID-19 vaccine, which he called "Lubecavax," is 97 percent effective at preventing COVID-19 and is safe to be distributed as a three-dose course for full vaccination.

I'm not sure what troubles me more, that the doctor would do that or that 20,000 people agreed to it.  

[NastyWoman]

Am I the only one that thinks this latest variant Omicron sounds like the name of a Transformer " more than meets the eye "?

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Dec 1, 2021 17:47:31 GMT -5 soupandstew said:

Dec 1, 2021 8:37:41 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

I just saw this on FB, though it was a different source.

Germam Dr. administers "homemade' vaccine at airport

I'm not sure what troubles me more, that the doctor would do that or that 20,000 people agreed to it.  

Sadly the 20,000 doesn't shock me after knowing my MIL and how she obeys without question anyone that has the letters MD behind their name.

[billisonboard]

Dec 2, 2021 2:14:28 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Am I the only one that thinks this latest variant Omicron sounds like the name of a Transformer " more than meets the eye "?

Nope. My wife made that observation the other day.

[Lizard Queen]

My MIL was diagnosed with COPD and listened to her Dr and finally got the vax--so there is hope with people listening to Drs.

[thyme4change]

Dec 1, 2021 14:51:56 GMT -5 haapai said:

And we have our first US Omicron variant case.  Vaccinated, mild case, California, returned to US from SA on 11/22.  Definitely isolated, aggressive contact tracing promised. 

I wonder if the folks on his connecting flight from Newark or Atlanta will even be notified.  Technically, they were masked. 

ETA  CNN link

There's a certain irony in this case was detected in San Francisco instead of Atlanta. 

Plenty of right wing weirdos in California. Seriously millions upon millions of Q believers in that state.

[empress of self-improvement]

Dec 2, 2021 8:41:54 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Dec 2, 2021 2:14:28 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Am I the only one that thinks this latest variant Omicron sounds like the name of a Transformer " more than meets the eye "?

Nope. My wife made that observation the other day.

Me three. I keep looking at DH's boxes to see if I can find it!

[andi9899]

Dec 2, 2021 9:43:59 GMT -5 empress of self-improvement said:

Dec 2, 2021 8:41:54 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Nope. My wife made that observation the other day.

Me three. I keep looking at DH's boxes to see if I can find it!

My friend said that last night. Now I want to hear that Megatron song.

[jerseygirl]

Vaccinated MN resident traveled to convention in NYC had mild symptoms identified as Omicron variant, symptoms resolved already! So omicron here already in US
But remembering the few initial cases in Washington state and now here we are almost 2 years later. But likely cases were already in US like in Italy

Good to know omicron in a vaccinated person mild and resolved

Wondering will omicron ‘swamp’ out the Delta variant and result in more? but milder cases?
Information coming in now

content.govdelivery.com/accounts/MNMDH/bulletins/2fee8d4

[Lizard Queen]

Dec 2, 2021 11:49:38 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Vaccinated MN resident traveled to convention in NYC had mild symptoms identified as Omicron variant, symptoms resolved already! So omicron here already in US
But remembering the few initial cases in Washington state and now here we are almost 2 years later. But likely cases were already in US like in Italy

Good to know omicron in a vaccinated person mild and resolved


Wondering will omicron ‘swamp’ out the Delta variant and result in more? but milder cases?
Information coming in now

content.govdelivery.com/accounts/MNMDH/bulletins/2fee8d4

That's great news! I guess you were correct in grabbing RC while it was down.

[chiver78]

Dec 2, 2021 2:14:28 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Am I the only one that thinks this latest variant Omicron sounds like the name of a Transformer " more than meets the eye "?

my Kool-Aid drinking Trumper cousin put up a meme on FB this morning. "OMICRON" is an anagram for "MORONIC" with text under a fact-checker spoiler of "They are straight up fucking with us at this point." 

I wanted to ask if she knew what the word anagram meant, but just put her on snooze again. I really need to just unfollow her. she adds nothing to my day. I don't wanna hear about just deleting her outright. ugh, family. 

[apple 2]

Dec 2, 2021 13:08:42 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Dec 2, 2021 2:14:28 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Am I the only one that thinks this latest variant Omicron sounds like the name of a Transformer " more than meets the eye "?

my Kool-Aid drinking Trumper cousin put up a meme on FB this morning. "OMICRON" is an anagram for "MORONIC" with text under a fact-checker spoiler of "They are straight up fucking with us at this point." 

I wanted to ask if she knew what the word anagram meant, but just put her on snooze again. I really need to just unfollow her. she adds nothing to my day. I don't wanna hear about just deleting her outright. ugh, family. 

Thanks for that, now all I see is MORONIC when I see that word.

[Lizard Queen]

Dec 2, 2021 13:08:42 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Dec 2, 2021 2:14:28 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Am I the only one that thinks this latest variant Omicron sounds like the name of a Transformer " more than meets the eye "?

my Kool-Aid drinking Trumper cousin put up a meme on FB this morning. "OMICRON" is an anagram for "MORONIC" with text under a fact-checker spoiler of "They are straight up fucking with us at this point." 

I wanted to ask if she knew what the word anagram meant, but just put her on snooze again. I really need to just unfollow her. she adds nothing to my day. I don't wanna hear about just deleting her outright. ugh, family. 

And SATAN - Santa are anagrams!
Coincidence??? 🤣🤣🤣

[Opti]

Dec 2, 2021 13:08:42 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Dec 2, 2021 2:14:28 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Am I the only one that thinks this latest variant Omicron sounds like the name of a Transformer " more than meets the eye "?

my Kool-Aid drinking Trumper cousin put up a meme on FB this morning. "OMICRON" is an anagram for "MORONIC" with text under a fact-checker spoiler of "They are straight up fucking with us at this point." 

I wanted to ask if she knew what the word anagram meant, but just put her on snooze again. I really need to just unfollow her. she adds nothing to my day. I don't wanna hear about just deleting her outright. ugh, family. 

I don't get why some people choose to believe these anagrams mean anything of importance. Ooooo... we can rearrange letters into another word. And?

[Opti]

www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/omicron-covid-variant-outbreak-at-christmas-party-infects-60-people/ar-AARotxg?ocid=msedgntp

Dozens of people in Norway who attended a work Christmas party have tested positive for Omicron, and if the cases are confirmed, it could be the world's biggest known single outbreak of the new coronavirus variant.



After staff at the renewable energy company Scatec attended the party at Louise Restaurant & Bar in Oslo on November 26, 50 people returned positive PCR tests for COVID, while another 10 tested positive following lateral flow checks, according to NRK.

Norwegian media reported that all those at the party had to be vaccinated and show a negative test for COVID. Among the infected, 41 live in Oslo and the rest in other municipalities.

Scatec's communications manager, Stian Tvede Karlsen, said that none of the participants had tested positive for coronavirus before the party, according to E24.

[haapai]

Wow!  I would love to know how recent those tests were and what type of test they were. 

This event is definitely pointing toward Omicron having a fantastic tendency toward super-spreading events. 

It's probably also why Michael Osterholm was talking a bit about the possibility of the Omicron variant evading existing medical tests to detect it on his podcast recorded yesterday.  He said that there was no indication yet that this variant could evade existing testing mechanisms but he has never addressed that issue before. 

[andi9899]

Dec 2, 2021 13:08:42 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Dec 2, 2021 2:14:28 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Am I the only one that thinks this latest variant Omicron sounds like the name of a Transformer " more than meets the eye "?

my Kool-Aid drinking Trumper cousin put up a meme on FB this morning. "OMICRON" is an anagram for "MORONIC" with text under a fact-checker spoiler of "They are straight up fucking with us at this point." 

I wanted to ask if she knew what the word anagram meant, but just put her on snooze again. I really need to just unfollow her. she adds nothing to my day. I don't wanna hear about just deleting her outright. ugh, family. 

I've basically decided that I'm done with my dad's family outside of a couple of people because of this stuff. And I don't even have social media to see stuff like that. The kids tell me about the ones that are really bad that they see. I'm over it.