January 6th Bomb Exploded

[NastyWoman]

Actually I believe Kelly thinks the rest of the world is extremely gullible. He comes off like a 3-yo expecting us to believe that a Loser-beanie wearing person would be breaking into the WH? Why would anyone "storm" the residence of the person he admires that much. Your biggest "friend" and idol no less? What an idiot. 

[Rukh O'Rorke]

www.cnn.com/2021/05/05/politics/wisconsin-national-guard-us-capitol/index.html

Abram Markofski and an associate allegedly traveled to DC together to attend then-President Donald Trump's protest against the certification of the 2020 presidential election. After the rally ended, investigators say Markofski and his associate walked to the Capitol and spent about 40 minutes inside the building.

Markofski has been charged with four federal crimes, including violent entry or disorderly conduct. He has not yet entered a plea.

Maj. Joe Trovato, a spokesperson for the Wisconsin National Guard, said that Markofski enlisted in the Army National Guard in 2019. He is currently a private first class assigned to the 1st Battalion, 128 Infantry Regiment. Trovato declined to comment further.

how is he not immediately dishonorably discharged?

[Tennesseer]

GOP downplays Jan. 6 violence: Like a 'normal tourist visit'

Republican after Republican on Wednesday repeatedly sought to downplay the violence of the Jan. 6 insurrection, with one Georgia lawmaker likening the mobs overwhelming Capitol Police and vandalizing Capitol offices to a “normal tourist visit.”

Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-Ga.) made the tourist comment, saying that calling what happened at the Capitol on Jan. 6 an insurrection “is a boldfaced lie.”

“Watching the TV footage of those who entered the Capitol and walked through Statuary Hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stanchions and ropes taking videos and pictures,” the first-term lawmaker said. “You know, if you didn’t know the TV footage was a video from Jan. 6, you’d think it was a normal tourist visit.”

Article here: link

[djAdvocate]

May 12, 2021 20:11:09 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

GOP downplays Jan. 6 violence: Like a 'normal tourist visit'

Republican after Republican on Wednesday repeatedly sought to downplay the violence of the Jan. 6 insurrection, with one Georgia lawmaker likening the mobs overwhelming Capitol Police and vandalizing Capitol offices to a “normal tourist visit.”

Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-Ga.) made the tourist comment, saying that calling what happened at the Capitol on Jan. 6 an insurrection “is a boldfaced lie.”

“Watching the TV footage of those who entered the Capitol and walked through Statuary Hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stanchions and ropes taking videos and pictures,” the first-term lawmaker said. “You know, if you didn’t know the TV footage was a video from Jan. 6, you’d think it was a normal tourist visit.”

Article here: link

yes.  PARTS of the insurrection were eerily "normal".

and parts were not. 

the orderly parts don't forgive the disorderly parts.

[billisonboard]

May 12, 2021 20:27:29 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 12, 2021 20:11:09 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

GOP downplays Jan. 6 violence: Like a 'normal tourist visit'

Republican after Republican on Wednesday repeatedly sought to downplay the violence of the Jan. 6 insurrection, with one Georgia lawmaker likening the mobs overwhelming Capitol Police and vandalizing Capitol offices to a “normal tourist visit.”

Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-Ga.) made the tourist comment, saying that calling what happened at the Capitol on Jan. 6 an insurrection “is a boldfaced lie.”

“Watching the TV footage of those who entered the Capitol and walked through Statuary Hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stanchions and ropes taking videos and pictures,” the first-term lawmaker said. “You know, if you didn’t know the TV footage was a video from Jan. 6, you’d think it was a normal tourist visit.”

Article here: link

yes.  PARTS of the insurrection were eerily "normal".

and parts were not. 

the orderly parts don't forgive the disorderly parts.

If you stroll in/out casually and are polite to the teller when you rob the bank, you still robbed the bank.

[happyhoix]

May 12, 2021 20:11:09 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

GOP downplays Jan. 6 violence: Like a 'normal tourist visit'

Republican after Republican on Wednesday repeatedly sought to downplay the violence of the Jan. 6 insurrection, with one Georgia lawmaker likening the mobs overwhelming Capitol Police and vandalizing Capitol offices to a “normal tourist visit.”

Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-Ga.) made the tourist comment, saying that calling what happened at the Capitol on Jan. 6 an insurrection “is a boldfaced lie.”

“Watching the TV footage of those who entered the Capitol and walked through Statuary Hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stanchions and ropes taking videos and pictures,” the first-term lawmaker said. “You know, if you didn’t know the TV footage was a video from Jan. 6, you’d think it was a normal tourist visit.”

Article here: link

They were showing some video this am of a capital cop getting attacked by the horde of ‘tourists’. He was begging them not to kill him because he has kids.

The footage was sickening, the GOP ass lickers trying to pass this off as normal tourist activity is 10 x worse.

[happyhoix]

I saw where they began the committee investigation into the Dec 6 attacks yesterday and the GOP committee members immediately tried to turn it into a discussion about the protests after George Floyd’s death. They were whining about how everyone wanted to pick on the poor Trump supporters.

For the record, I want to prosecute the terrorists who attacked the capital. I don’t care what their politics are. Attacking our seat of government to try to overturn an election is far worse than breaking a window and stealing something during the Floyd unrest.

[Tennesseer]

You left us': Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean slams Trump in expletive-laden message

WASHINGTON – Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean lashed out at President Donald Trump, accusing him of misleading his supporters and then deserting them despite their unwavering loyalty.

"We are now and always have been on our own. So glad he was able to pardon a bunch of degenerates as his last move and s--- on us on the way out," Nordean said in an expletive-laden message about the former president. "F--- you trump you left us on [t]he battle field bloody and alone."

Nordean is one of several members of the extremist group with ties to white supremacy whose members describe themselves as "Western Chauvinists." He's among the more than 400 people who have been charged for their alleged roles in the deadly assault on the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Ethan Nordean, circled in red in this photo the U.S. Department of Justice released from ABC7 News and Eddie Block films, was arrested and charged with conspiracy and other offenses on Feb. 3 for his participation in the U.S. Capitol riot. Nordean is a self-described officer with the Seattle chapter of the Proud Boys.
Prosecutors say Nordean, along with other Proud Boys members, planned to push through police barricades and force themselves inside the building that day. Nordean, the self-described "sergeant-at-arms" of the Proud Boys' Seattle chapter is facing several charges, including conspiracy, obstruction of an official proceeding, and aiding and abetting.

In a court filing Thursday, prosecutors detailed communications sent through the instant messaging app Telegram that they say show additional evidence that Nordean and other Proud Boys members conspired to breach the Capitol. Prosecutors included the anti-Trump diatribe in which Nordean seemed to acknowledged he and others are facing criminal charges because they followed Trump's lead.

"I've followed this guy for 4 years and given everything and lost it all. Yes he woke us up, but he led us to believe some great justice was upon us...and it never happened," Nordean wrote on Jan. 20, after Proud Boys members were charged, "now I've got some of my good friends and myself facing jail time cuz we followed this guys lead and never questioned it."

Complete article here: link

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

May 15, 2021 8:59:16 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

You left us': Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean slams Trump in expletive-laden message

WASHINGTON – Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean lashed out at President Donald Trump, accusing him of misleading his supporters and then deserting them despite their unwavering loyalty.

"We are now and always have been on our own. So glad he was able to pardon a bunch of degenerates as his last move and s--- on us on the way out," Nordean said in an expletive-laden message about the former president. "F--- you trump you left us on [t]he battle field bloody and alone."

Nordean is one of several members of the extremist group with ties to white supremacy whose members describe themselves as "Western Chauvinists." He's among the more than 400 people who have been charged for their alleged roles in the deadly assault on the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Ethan Nordean, circled in red in this photo the U.S. Department of Justice released from ABC7 News and Eddie Block films, was arrested and charged with conspiracy and other offenses on Feb. 3 for his participation in the U.S. Capitol riot. Nordean is a self-described officer with the Seattle chapter of the Proud Boys.
Prosecutors say Nordean, along with other Proud Boys members, planned to push through police barricades and force themselves inside the building that day. Nordean, the self-described "sergeant-at-arms" of the Proud Boys' Seattle chapter is facing several charges, including conspiracy, obstruction of an official proceeding, and aiding and abetting.

In a court filing Thursday, prosecutors detailed communications sent through the instant messaging app Telegram that they say show additional evidence that Nordean and other Proud Boys members conspired to breach the Capitol. Prosecutors included the anti-Trump diatribe in which Nordean seemed to acknowledged he and others are facing criminal charges because they followed Trump's lead.

"I've followed this guy for 4 years and given everything and lost it all. Yes he woke us up, but he led us to believe some great justice was upon us...and it never happened," Nordean wrote on Jan. 20, after Proud Boys members were charged, "now I've got some of my good friends and myself facing jail time cuz we followed this guys lead and never questioned it."

Complete article here: link

Here's your sign.

[thyme4change]

May 15, 2021 8:59:16 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

You left us': Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean slams Trump in expletive-laden message

WASHINGTON – Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean lashed out at President Donald Trump, accusing him of misleading his supporters and then deserting them despite their unwavering loyalty.

"We are now and always have been on our own. So glad he was able to pardon a bunch of degenerates as his last move and s--- on us on the way out," Nordean said in an expletive-laden message about the former president. "F--- you trump you left us on [t]he battle field bloody and alone."

Nordean is one of several members of the extremist group with ties to white supremacy whose members describe themselves as "Western Chauvinists." He's among the more than 400 people who have been charged for their alleged roles in the deadly assault on the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Ethan Nordean, circled in red in this photo the U.S. Department of Justice released from ABC7 News and Eddie Block films, was arrested and charged with conspiracy and other offenses on Feb. 3 for his participation in the U.S. Capitol riot. Nordean is a self-described officer with the Seattle chapter of the Proud Boys.
Prosecutors say Nordean, along with other Proud Boys members, planned to push through police barricades and force themselves inside the building that day. Nordean, the self-described "sergeant-at-arms" of the Proud Boys' Seattle chapter is facing several charges, including conspiracy, obstruction of an official proceeding, and aiding and abetting.

In a court filing Thursday, prosecutors detailed communications sent through the instant messaging app Telegram that they say show additional evidence that Nordean and other Proud Boys members conspired to breach the Capitol. Prosecutors included the anti-Trump diatribe in which Nordean seemed to acknowledged he and others are facing criminal charges because they followed Trump's lead.

"I've followed this guy for 4 years and given everything and lost it all. Yes he woke us up, but he led us to believe some great justice was upon us...and it never happened," Nordean wrote on Jan. 20, after Proud Boys members were charged, "now I've got some of my good friends and myself facing jail time cuz we followed this guys lead and never questioned it."

Complete article here: link

I guess better late than never. Do you think he can convince others? The more people who lose their faith in Trump the better.

[Tennesseer]

May 12, 2021 20:11:09 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

GOP downplays Jan. 6 violence: Like a 'normal tourist visit'

Republican after Republican on Wednesday repeatedly sought to downplay the violence of the Jan. 6 insurrection, with one Georgia lawmaker likening the mobs overwhelming Capitol Police and vandalizing Capitol offices to a “normal tourist visit.”

Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-Ga.) made the tourist comment, saying that calling what happened at the Capitol on Jan. 6 an insurrection “is a boldfaced lie.”

“Watching the TV footage of those who entered the Capitol and walked through Statuary Hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stanchions and ropes taking videos and pictures,” the first-term lawmaker said. “You know, if you didn’t know the TV footage was a video from Jan. 6, you’d think it was a normal tourist visit.”

Article here: link

A Republican congressman who denied there was an insurrection and likened Capitol rioters to tourists was photographed barricading the chamber doors against them



link

[thyme4change]

May 17, 2021 8:43:50 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

May 12, 2021 20:11:09 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

GOP downplays Jan. 6 violence: Like a 'normal tourist visit'

Republican after Republican on Wednesday repeatedly sought to downplay the violence of the Jan. 6 insurrection, with one Georgia lawmaker likening the mobs overwhelming Capitol Police and vandalizing Capitol offices to a “normal tourist visit.”

Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-Ga.) made the tourist comment, saying that calling what happened at the Capitol on Jan. 6 an insurrection “is a boldfaced lie.”

“Watching the TV footage of those who entered the Capitol and walked through Statuary Hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stanchions and ropes taking videos and pictures,” the first-term lawmaker said. “You know, if you didn’t know the TV footage was a video from Jan. 6, you’d think it was a normal tourist visit.”

Article here: link

A Republican congressman who denied there was an insurrection and likened Capitol rioters to tourists was photographed barricading the chamber doors against them



link

That is totally normal for regular tours. Everyday, the representatives get dressed in suits and shiny Oxford shoes, get all their papers together, and then go in and move furniture around, just to make sure the tourists don't accidentally bother them.

[Icelandic Woman]

May 15, 2021 8:59:16 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

You left us': Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean slams Trump in expletive-laden message

WASHINGTON – Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean lashed out at President Donald Trump, accusing him of misleading his supporters and then deserting them despite their unwavering loyalty.

"We are now and always have been on our own. So glad he was able to pardon a bunch of degenerates as his last move and s--- on us on the way out," Nordean said in an expletive-laden message about the former president. "F--- you trump you left us on [t]he battle field bloody and alone."

Nordean is one of several members of the extremist group with ties to white supremacy whose members describe themselves as "Western Chauvinists." He's among the more than 400 people who have been charged for their alleged roles in the deadly assault on the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Ethan Nordean, circled in red in this photo the U.S. Department of Justice released from ABC7 News and Eddie Block films, was arrested and charged with conspiracy and other offenses on Feb. 3 for his participation in the U.S. Capitol riot. Nordean is a self-described officer with the Seattle chapter of the Proud Boys.
Prosecutors say Nordean, along with other Proud Boys members, planned to push through police barricades and force themselves inside the building that day. Nordean, the self-described "sergeant-at-arms" of the Proud Boys' Seattle chapter is facing several charges, including conspiracy, obstruction of an official proceeding, and aiding and abetting.

In a court filing Thursday, prosecutors detailed communications sent through the instant messaging app Telegram that they say show additional evidence that Nordean and other Proud Boys members conspired to breach the Capitol. Prosecutors included the anti-Trump diatribe in which Nordean seemed to acknowledged he and others are facing criminal charges because they followed Trump's lead.

"I've followed this guy for 4 years and given everything and lost it all. Yes he woke us up, but he led us to believe some great justice was upon us...and it never happened," Nordean wrote on Jan. 20, after Proud Boys members were charged, "now I've got some of my good friends and myself facing jail time cuz we followed this guys lead and never questioned it."

Complete article here: link

Awe poor guy NOT! He is now learning the lesson that loyalty is a one way street with the twice impeached loser. He deserves everything that is coming to him and all the others too!
The price you pay for being a moron following a moron.

[billisonboard]

How the GOP lies about the US Capitol insurrection and 2020 election are related

Republicans are also trying to perform some mind jujitsu by trying to separate out the insurrection from the larger January 6 protests. While it is true that some January 6 protesters were not rioters, many of them were.

Good look at what polls show some of our fellow citizens believe.

[Tennesseer]

Hillary was right:  these are deplorable people.  Mindless people unwilling to think for themselves.

Quote from the above post's link

A Reuters/Ipsos poll from late March found that an astounding 55% of Republicans agreed that the January 6 riots were led by left-wing protesters trying to make the former President look bad. Just 30% of Republicans disagreed with this statement.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

They can stage a fake coup to discredit Trump but they couldn't fix it so Clinton won the election to begin with.

All righty then.

[Tennesseer]

Ttrump loves the Q-Anon conspiracy believers. But doesn't love them enough to stay at his properties.

Trump's DC hotel raised prices to keep QAnon conspiracy theorists from booking rooms, according to a leaked police memo

Trump's DC hotel raised prices as a "security tactic" to keep QAnon away, said a police memo.

The memo, obtained by The Daily Dot and The Guardian, was written in the wake of an Insider story.

Hotel management said the hikes were "to prevent protestors from booking rooms."

Article here: link

[Rukh O'Rorke]

May 22, 2021 10:51:42 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Ttrump loves the Q-Anon conspiracy believers. But doesn't love them enough to stay at his properties.

Trump's DC hotel raised prices to keep QAnon conspiracy theorists from booking rooms, according to a leaked police memo

Trump's DC hotel raised prices as a "security tactic" to keep QAnon away, said a police memo.

The memo, obtained by The Daily Dot and The Guardian, was written in the wake of an Insider story.

Hotel management said the hikes were "to prevent protestors from booking rooms."

Article here: link

this is - hilarious.

[billisonboard]

[Tennesseer]

I had lunch Tuesday with a former co-worker friend of mine.  The conversation eventually turned to the January 6th Capitol Building Open House - 'Welcome Tourists!' event.

Turns our Richard Barnett, the tourist from Arkansas sitting at Nancy Pelosi's desk, is the co-worker's cousin.  She stated the family stepped away from this guy long before January 6th. He was too bizarre for them.

[djAdvocate]

wow

[Opti]

May 22, 2021 10:36:06 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Hillary was right:  these are deplorable people.  Mindless people unwilling to think for themselves.

Quote from the above post's link

A Reuters/Ipsos poll from late March found that an astounding 55% of Republicans agreed that the January 6 riots were led by left-wing protesters trying to make the former President look bad. Just 30% of Republicans disagreed with this statement.

Silly people. No protestors needed to make Trump look bad, he does that all by himself.

[Rukh O'Rorke]

www.cnn.com/2021/05/30/politics/oath-keepers-capitol-riot-charged/index.html

(CNN)The Justice Department has added four new defendants to the federal criminal conspiracy case against Oath Keepers who allegedly prepared for and took part in the US Capitol riot, according to a new indictment made public in DC District Court on Sunday.



The newly named Oath Keeper defendants are Joseph Hackett, who went by "Ahab," Jason Dolan, who went by "Turmoil," and William Isaacs, all from Florida. A fourth new defendant's name and alleged actions are still redacted.

The case is the largest against any of the far-right extremist groups that participated in the pro-Trump siege on January 6. Prosecutors have gradually built out the case almost weekly, dropping additional details of how the group allegedly brought guns to a hotel in Virginia to back them up on January 6, and communicated during the insurrection.

The Oath Keeper defendants are all accused of taking part in the conspiracy as well as entering the restricted grounds of the Capitol. Isaacs, for instance, allegedly yelled, "The fight's not over" once the Oath Keepers group had gotten inside the building, and he waved rioters down the hallway toward the Senate, according to the indictment.

[Tennesseer]

Interesting analysis of the motivations of those arrested during the January 6th insurrection in Washington.

[thyme4change]

May 31, 2021 9:28:38 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Interesting analysis of the motivations of those arrested during the January 6th insurrection in Washington.

That was interesting, and I already over-simplified it in my mind. 😒

[happyhoix]

Ex general Flynn thinks the military needs to stage a Myanmar coup and put Trump back in power.

www.businessinsider.com/michael-flynn-said-us-should-have-a-coup-like-myanmar-2021-5

Can he be stripped of his military retirement benefits - or did that happen when he got convicted of lying to the Vice President?

[Tennesseer]

Another interesting read.

Death of QAnon Follower at Capitol Leaves a Wake of Pain.

For months, Rosanne Boyland had been worrying her family with bizarre notions she had picked up on the internet: The actor Tom Hanks might be dead, she said. A national furniture chain was trafficking children. Many prominent Democrats were pedophiles.

Then, early in January, she texted her older sister that she was heading to Washington with a friend to support President Donald J. Trump and protest what was happening in the country. “I’m going to dc,” she wrote. “I dont know all the deets yet.”

Ms. Boyland, 34, was one of five people who never made it home from the Jan. 6 protest, which erupted in violence when hundreds of people stormed into the Capitol. Her death has left her family grappling to understand how Ms. Boyland, who they say had never voted before 2020, wound up waving a “Don’t Tread on Me” flag amid a crowd of fanatic supporters of the former president before walking up the steps of the Capitol to her death.

Their frustration deepened further this week when Republicans in the Senate blocked an effort to establish an independent commission to look into the origins and the handling of the attack on the Capitol.

“Why anyone would NOT want to find out what happened, even just to prevent it from happening again, is beyond me,” Ms. Boyland’s older sister, Lonna Cave, said in a text message after the vote.

For months before the rally, Ms. Boyland had bombarded her friends and relatives with messages and links to long videos about the fantastical theories she had come to accept as fact. Many of the false claims spilled from QAnon, the pro-Trump conspiracy theory movement that rose in popularity over the course of his presidency and promoted the idea that many Democrats and celebrities are part of a global pedophile ring — a theory that 15 percent of Americans believe, according to one poll this week. Many of its supporters falsely believed that President Biden had stolen the election, and some attended Mr. Trump’s rally on Jan. 6.

Ms. Boyland’s sudden fixation so alarmed her family members and friends that some of them asked her to stop talking to them about politics — or just to stop talking altogether.

Some of her closest friends believe that Ms. Boyland was a vulnerable target for the conspiracy theorists. After a stint in drug rehabilitation, she had returned to her parents’ home and largely avoided drugs for several years, her family said. But the isolation brought about by the pandemic was making it harder. QAnon filled a void in her life, they said, helping distract her from thoughts of returning to drugs even as it acted as a different kind of hallucinogen.

“I was worried that she was trading one addiction for another,” said Blaire Boyland, her younger sister. “It just seemed like, yes, she’s not doing drugs, but she’s very obsessively online, watching all these YouTube videos and going down the rabbit hole.”

Complete article here: Death of QAnon Follower at Capitol Leaves a Wake of Pain

[djAdvocate]

May 31, 2021 10:19:59 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

May 31, 2021 9:28:38 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Interesting analysis of the motivations of those arrested during the January 6th insurrection in Washington.

That was interesting, and I already over-simplified it in my mind. 😒

I am a big Robert Pape fan.

I have recommended his book on terrorism many times on this board.

he is amazing at pattern recognition, and he doesn't care whether or not anyone agrees with him.  he just reports the facts as he sees them.

I found his book in a Navy bookstore.

[djAdvocate]

LOL!
I made that comment before I listened to the video.
this is precisely the same conclusion that this study found:

www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/us/politics/trump-economic-anxiety.html

it is the Karen Revolution, basically.
white people who don't want an even playing field.

[djAdvocate]

Pape's earlier book is mentioned in the 11th minute.

I disagree that there is no threat from suicide terrorism today. I also disagree that his theory is well studied, though I happen to think it is 100% right. his theory is that it is cultural displacement that leads to terrorism. and that definitely has overlap in the current discussion. in fact, I think Pape's work points to a very frightening future for the US.