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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2020 22:17:09 GMT -5
When I tried to get tested, not only do you have to be within 6' of someone with a confirmed positive test for 15+ minutes, but you also had to be unmasked.
I was originally told I didn't qualify for testing because I'd worn a mask and didn't know anyone who had a positive test. Then again, they test very few people, so that's a sticking point in perpetuity here.
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Post by travelnut11 on Oct 9, 2020 22:48:11 GMT -5
I feel compelled to provide a data point where in-person school is actually working. I live on the other side of the same state as Giramomma. In a very red county no less. My 5 year-old goes to all day kindergarten, 5 days per week in-person. I thought we'd be shut down in less than three weeks but to my utter shock its been going very, very well. In a school district of roughly 4500 kids the number of kids with confirmed/probable cases has ranged from 5-14 per day almost all of them in the high school. There are more in quarantine of course but many of those are due to exposure outside of the school district rather than in-district per the metrics. Number of staff cases has been <5 every day since school started. Do I think we'll make it the whole year? Nope. But now I'm thinking we might make it to Thanksgiving. Definitely not what I thought at the beginning of the year given the level of assholery that I'm surrounded by.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Oct 10, 2020 6:56:09 GMT -5
I'm on the other side of the pond. We're in a district of 3800, Elementary schools are in person 5 days week. HS is hybrid. I can't remember what middle school was. Everyone is required to wear masks, with break times built into the day. Anyway, one month in, and from what I know we're still at only the 2 cases in the high school students that visited a near-ish college. I'm in a purple part of a blue county. I get the feeling the deniers/more fervent anti-maskers are either virtual schooling, or moved to private or charter schools, which helps. Cases are rising a bit here, though nothing like the dumpster fire that is Wisconsin right now.
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Post by oped on Oct 10, 2020 7:33:12 GMT -5
I had posted this in reopening:
RIT went from green to yellow today, even though they are still at 3 new infections in the last 2 weeks, and 92% open isolation beds. I called daughter for insight and she said they are doing wastewater monitoring and Greek Life housing had issues this week. It seems like they are on top of it, but I guess we will see what next week brings. I asked her to do only delivery and her few in person classes this week, to which she at least told me she agreed.
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Post by giramomma on Oct 10, 2020 9:13:46 GMT -5
I feel compelled to provide a data point where in-person school is actually working. I live on the other side of the same state as Giramomma. In a very red county no less. My 5 year-old goes to all day kindergarten, 5 days per week in-person. I thought we'd be shut down in less than three weeks but to my utter shock its been going very, very well. In a school district of roughly 4500 kids the number of kids with confirmed/probable cases has ranged from 5-14 per day almost all of them in the high school. There are more in quarantine of course but many of those are due to exposure outside of the school district rather than in-district per the metrics. Number of staff cases has been <5 every day since school started. Do I think we'll make it the whole year? Nope. But now I'm thinking we might make it to Thanksgiving. Definitely not what I thought at the beginning of the year given the level of assholery that I'm surrounded by. Actually, even the smaller districts around me are doing ok, too. Per the JS, covid is only in 260 schools, colleges, and daycare centers (I think) in the state. That's not very many.
And even the UW has managed to get back to nomral as normal as they can.
And, actually, if our kids didn't do activities, and/or we didn't have 75 year old parents (one set that watches Miss M one day a week), I'd probably be OK with sending the girls to school hybrid right now. The girls school has been open for 6 weeks, 4k-4th grade are in, 4k and 5K are going 5 days a week. No cases yet.
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Post by travelnut11 on Oct 10, 2020 9:30:51 GMT -5
I'm guessing Evers will shut it all down soon but my hope is that he does it in a thoughtful way by keeping the elementary schools open and moving middle/high to virtual since that is where the vast majority of the kid cases. Plus middle/high kids should be better equipped to manage their own remote learning.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Oct 11, 2020 7:57:11 GMT -5
When I tried to get tested, not only do you have to be within 6' of someone with a confirmed positive test for 15+ minutes, but you also had to be unmasked. I was originally told I didn't qualify for testing because I'd worn a mask and didn't know anyone who had a positive test. Then again, they test very few people, so that's a sticking point in perpetuity here. I had to lie to get tested. I also lied to get my daughter tested. They don't ask you to confirm who you were exposed to, just that you were exposed.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Oct 11, 2020 10:54:39 GMT -5
Sounds like Test Iowa may have done something right, despite the $6 million price tag.
Anybody can get tested if you can find an open space at a site near you. It was 3 days out for me to get an appointment.
We now have a drive through site at a drug store chain and grocery store chain as well as two Test Iowa sites in my county.
Probably because our positive rate is over 25% and holding strong.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Oct 11, 2020 11:54:13 GMT -5
Sounds like Test Iowa may have done something right, despite the $6 million price tag. Anybody can get tested if you can find an open space at a site near you. It was 3 days out for me to get an appointment. We now have a drive through site at a drug store chain and grocery store chain as well as two Test Iowa sites in my county. Probably because our positive rate is over 25% and holding strong. The problem with the drug store tests is that it takes 7 days to get the results back. At least that is what it was averaging in my area. We got tested at our hospital's testing site. My dd had her results the next morning, her friend had her results the same day and mine were next day. The criteria to get tested is ridiculous (none of us met the criteria) but people have learned to lie to get the test.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Oct 11, 2020 12:47:41 GMT -5
The grocery store and drug store sights have just opened and I have not heard what the turnaround time is.
With Test Iowa, I was told results would be in 3-5 days. It was less than 48 hours.
For the one I did before a medical procedure, I was never officially told if I was negative or positive, but the procedure was done. When I look at my records online, it isn't mentioned.
Test Iowa has more places open now than ever before because the state numbers are so high. The people of this state are doing a terrible job at reducing the spread, but that is how the Governor has approached covid since the beginning.
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Post by Clifford on Oct 11, 2020 18:02:38 GMT -5
DD had a mini breakdown last week about how she wanted to go back to school. Somewhere between missing friends and struggling with the remote tools, she’s at her wits’ end. I asked her to sleep on it for a few days. Today we emailed the school that she’d like to return. The HS has had only 5 total cases since school started on August 3. We had hoped she might hold out until after the new year, as the holidays might bring spikes, but I understand her frustrations and want her to be happy. Fingers crossed.
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Post by giramomma on Oct 11, 2020 18:53:25 GMT -5
Well, we were just told, through a generic update, that indeed there have been cases of Covid within the population at the girls' school. But, it doesn't matter because it doesn't affect the kids learning in person.
Oh, and by the way, they are still bringing kids back to school.
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Post by teen persuasion on Oct 12, 2020 11:20:24 GMT -5
DH checked DS5's grades on Parent Portal, and everything was in the 70s (usually mid 90s). So I logged into Schoology to see what I can find for the teachers using that portal. Chem had a bunch of grades that were dinged 50% for being turned in late (she'd contacted me about his work not being turned in, gave me a Schoology login, I found issues with the SW but also showed DS5 how to navigate the site better to find assignments) but now improving. English had grades up (nothing until after 5 week closed), and again DS5 had low grades because half of the entries were not turned in. More poking around on Schoology and I learn there's a daily question the English teacher uses as daily attendance check on remote days, which DS5 has been oblivious to. Global suddenly had *one* entry. One. That teacher is apparently only using Schoology for tests. The Orchestra and Chorus teachers are both using Google classroom, and I'm signed up for weekly updates, but they are all retrospective - come late Friday night, for past week's overdue work or past reminders/info. Not terribly useful. No idea what platform the other teachers are using, if any: Geometry, PE, Global. So a large part of the confusion here is the number and variety of platforms the kids need to check daily, looking for new notices and assignments and daily attendance. There's also confusion with deadlines - the Chem teacher repeatedly mentioned that her assignments would always be due on Sunday at midnight (before his Monday in person classes). Great, but why does Schoology show everything due on Wednesdays? Because that's the deadline for the Thursday/Friday cohort, and Schoology chokes on the two cohorts having different deadlines! Tracking this stuff down has made me realize another new issue with remote learning - the need to monitor for new assignments essentially round the clock. With in person only class, you knew that the math teacher could only assign homework during classtime in period 3. Now, the teachers can put up assignments virtually any time. Unless you login frequently, you could miss a new assignment. When I first learned hybrid meant no synchronous online classes, I thought the teachers would assign work during in person class to be completed during remote days. Apparently teachers are dropping daily assignments on remote days. Yeah, that's the phrase - wait for the new assignment to drop (like they wait for a popular new game character to drop on a future announced date). Please, ONE platform to learn and monitor, not multiples! I'm not surprised DS5 isn't keeping up with monitoring multiple platforms for random new assignments. I'm not keen on doing it, too, to keep him on track. I want him to function independently!
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Post by oped on Oct 12, 2020 11:27:10 GMT -5
Again, if anyone wants to homeschool just for the year... message me and I can help set you up or direct you to better resources for your questions.
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Post by cyanne on Oct 12, 2020 12:23:24 GMT -5
So a large part of the confusion here is the number and variety of platforms the kids need to check daily, looking for new notices and assignments and daily attendance... Tracking this stuff down has made me realize another new issue with remote learning - the need to monitor for new assignments essentially round the clock... Please, ONE platform to learn and monitor, not multiples! I'm not surprised DS5 isn't keeping up with monitoring multiple platforms for random new assignments. I'm not keen on doing it, too, to keep him on track. I want him to function independently! I’m sorry that you are dealing with this. The high school I work at is only using one platform and assignments for the day are to be posted by 9:00 am. It sounds like your school’s administration should work on this for the next grading term.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Oct 12, 2020 12:55:45 GMT -5
I got an email this morning from the district superintendent. There is a covid case dashboard available. There are 2 current cases among students in the district--1 at a different elementary school, and 1 at the middle school. A total of 10 students are currently quarantining, but only 3 each at each of those schools. Zero staff cases or quarantines.
A parent of a soccer player on the team my 10 yo played Saturday morning tested positive, but is asymptomatic (med professional getting routine tests). My son's soccer practice is cancelled for tonight. Each team + spectators sit on opposite sides of the field. I didn't go watch this particular game.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Oct 12, 2020 20:12:41 GMT -5
A seventh grader walked up to my husband today while they were at the grocery store. He begged my husband to re-open school. The kid really wants to meet his teachers in-person. My husband has no direct control over re-opening because our state is controlling all of it. He's been home for an hour now, and he's still upset.
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Post by raeoflyte on Oct 12, 2020 20:21:57 GMT -5
Again, if anyone wants to homeschool just for the year... message me and I can help set you up or direct you to better resources for your questions. Highly recommend! I was super nervous about pulling the kids out this year, but oped's suggestions have been awesome. I'm putting in less time than I would monitoring the kids if they were doing remote with the district and I get to do some fun activities with the kids instead of just pestering.
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Post by Clifford on Oct 12, 2020 22:50:13 GMT -5
Again, if anyone wants to homeschool just for the year... message me and I can help set you up or direct you to better resources for your questions. We would totally consider this, as we homeschooled and roadschooled for 5 years. I would endorse this for anyone, provided you can stick to a schedule. But our DS went to high school for the experience, and as a Junior is so close to the finish line... 3.5 semesters to go. ACT score is solid. PSAT/NMSQT is this week. But the Covid curveball is messing with everyone.
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Post by gs11rmb on Oct 13, 2020 9:16:00 GMT -5
Again, if anyone wants to homeschool just for the year... message me and I can help set you up or direct you to better resources for your questions. I want to preface what I'm about to say with the comments that 1) I am not philosophically opposed to homeschools or private schools; 2) I know that everyone is trying to do their very best for their families; and 3) I believe that many members of this board are interested in and concerned about educational equity. If a state bases educational funding on previous year's enrollment then pulling children from public schools to either home school or send private for one year could, in the collective, have a devastating financial and educational impact. The statistic I saw banded about was that in Georgia for every 20 students who don't enroll, a school loses a teacher. In some districts 10% of the expected kindergarten students didn't enroll. I am very worried about next year when the education budget is slashed overall because of revenue shortfalls, funding per school is based on the number of students this year, and the 'missing' students re-enroll.
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Post by jerseygirl on Oct 13, 2020 10:31:23 GMT -5
Again, if anyone wants to homeschool just for the year... message me and I can help set you up or direct you to better resources for your questions. I want to preface what I'm about to say with the comments that 1) I am not philosophically opposed to homeschools or private schools; 2) I know that everyone is trying to do their very best for their families; and 3) I believe that many members of this board are interested in and concerned about educational equity. If a state bases educational funding on previous year's enrollment then pulling children from public schools to either home school or send private for one year could, in the collective, have a devastating financial and educational impact. The statistic I saw banded about was that in Georgia for every 20 students who don't enroll, a school loses a teacher. In some districts 10% of the expected kindergarten students didn't enroll. I am very worried about next year when the education budget is slashed overall because of revenue shortfalls, funding per school is based on the number of students this year, and the 'missing' students re-enroll. Yes this budget impact is concerning But the school district and/or state education department should or could rewrite? Amend? Procedures to take into account the impact of the pandemic
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Post by gs11rmb on Oct 13, 2020 10:58:10 GMT -5
I want to preface what I'm about to say with the comments that 1) I am not philosophically opposed to homeschools or private schools; 2) I know that everyone is trying to do their very best for their families; and 3) I believe that many members of this board are interested in and concerned about educational equity. If a state bases educational funding on previous year's enrollment then pulling children from public schools to either home school or send private for one year could, in the collective, have a devastating financial and educational impact. The statistic I saw banded about was that in Georgia for every 20 students who don't enroll, a school loses a teacher. In some districts 10% of the expected kindergarten students didn't enroll. I am very worried about next year when the education budget is slashed overall because of revenue shortfalls, funding per school is based on the number of students this year, and the 'missing' students re-enroll. Yes this budget impact is concerning But the school district and/or state education department should or could rewrite? Amend? Procedures to take into account the impact of the pandemic But they will not... Revenue is down and all budgets will be impacted and have to take cuts. Keeping your children enrolled in public schools (if you intend to use them in the future) is something that parents can do to help.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Oct 13, 2020 11:33:38 GMT -5
Revenues are down so much, I think cuts will extend beyond funding formulas. If the money isn't there they can't make it magically appear. In one city I know of, revenues are way down. Services are hurting. All the extra money received as pandemic help has gone to paying police and fire departments.
It's a bad situation for everyone. I think most locales are seeing deep revenue cuts and it's going to be ugly going forward. You can only spend what you have. And things that fall under public safety and sanitation are going to be funded before education.
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Post by raeoflyte on Oct 13, 2020 11:47:17 GMT -5
Yes this budget impact is concerning But the school district and/or state education department should or could rewrite? Amend? Procedures to take into account the impact of the pandemic But they will not... Revenue is down and all budgets will be impacted and have to take cuts. Keeping your children enrolled in public schools (if you intend to use them in the future) is something that parents can do to help. If my work wasn't so crazy this year we would have tried to keep the kids online through the date they use for funding next year. It's my biggest regret of pulling out the kids. Our homeschool lost 1/3rd of their kids (but I'm not sure how many of those are still in the online district program which will keep their place for funding purposes).
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Post by gs11rmb on Oct 13, 2020 12:30:27 GMT -5
But they will not... Revenue is down and all budgets will be impacted and have to take cuts. Keeping your children enrolled in public schools (if you intend to use them in the future) is something that parents can do to help. If my work wasn't so crazy this year we would have tried to keep the kids online through the date they use for funding next year. It's my biggest regret of pulling out the kids. Our homeschool lost 1/3rd of their kids (but I'm not sure how many of those are still in the online district program which will keep their place for funding purposes). I hope you don't think I'm trying to criticize you. I know we're all trying to do what's best. I had no interest in joining a pod because the equity issue bothers me but then I turned around and hired a reading tutor. I am now spending hundreds of dollars a month on my child all the while knowing that there are thousands of children in our district that need additional help, are not receiving any, and will fall further and further behind. I was just trying to bring attention to the funding issue in the hopes that if a parent can keep their child enrolled in a public school that they do so.
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Post by raeoflyte on Oct 13, 2020 12:38:36 GMT -5
If my work wasn't so crazy this year we would have tried to keep the kids online through the date they use for funding next year. It's my biggest regret of pulling out the kids. Our homeschool lost 1/3rd of their kids (but I'm not sure how many of those are still in the online district program which will keep their place for funding purposes). I hope you don't think I'm trying to criticize you. I know we're all trying to do what's best. I had no interest in joining a pod because the equity issue bothers me but then I turned around and hired a reading tutor. I am now spending hundreds of dollars a month on my child all the while knowing that there are thousands of children in our district that need additional help, are not receiving any, and will fall further and further behind. I was just trying to bring attention to the funding issue in the hopes that if a parent can keep their child enrolled in a public school that they do so. I didn't take it badly. I knew we were going to be impacting our schools funding and feel bad about it. Our funding cut off is end of september/early October, and we did talk about if we could put them in online through then but ultimately decided it wasnt feasible. Definitely a catch 22, but the schools and students are the big loser. They were already facing huge budget cuts and getting very creative. Fewer kids this year means smaller class sizes which is great, but I can't imagine what next year will look like.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Oct 13, 2020 16:34:37 GMT -5
If my work wasn't so crazy this year we would have tried to keep the kids online through the date they use for funding next year. It's my biggest regret of pulling out the kids. Our homeschool lost 1/3rd of their kids (but I'm not sure how many of those are still in the online district program which will keep their place for funding purposes). I hope you don't think I'm trying to criticize you. I know we're all trying to do what's best. I had no interest in joining a pod because the equity issue bothers me but then I turned around and hired a reading tutor. I am now spending hundreds of dollars a month on my child all the while knowing that there are thousands of children in our district that need additional help, are not receiving any, and will fall further and further behind. I was just trying to bring attention to the funding issue in the hopes that if a parent can keep their child enrolled in a public school that they do so. Well if somebody pulls out at this point, wouldn’t the funding stay put?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 18:42:26 GMT -5
I had no interest in joining a pod because the equity issue bothers me but then I turned around and hired a reading tutor. I am now spending hundreds of dollars a month on my child all the while knowing that there are thousands of children in our district that need additional help, are not receiving any, and will fall further and further behind. Please. Give your kids the education they deserve, tailored to how they learn, and don't feel bad about it. I wish I'd been able to do that with DS and I'm delighted to see it happening with my home-schooled grandchildren. Throwing the same material at the same pace at a group of kids different learning styles and abilities doesn't work. It never has. If you want to narrow the gap, donate to a private school so they can give scholarships to kids who otherwise wouldn't be able to go there, or volunteer for an after-school homework help program or donate at one of the sites where teachers ask for specific learning materials for their schools.
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Post by gs11rmb on Oct 14, 2020 12:26:52 GMT -5
I hope you don't think I'm trying to criticize you. I know we're all trying to do what's best. I had no interest in joining a pod because the equity issue bothers me but then I turned around and hired a reading tutor. I am now spending hundreds of dollars a month on my child all the while knowing that there are thousands of children in our district that need additional help, are not receiving any, and will fall further and further behind. I was just trying to bring attention to the funding issue in the hopes that if a parent can keep their child enrolled in a public school that they do so. Well if somebody pulls out at this point, wouldn’t the funding stay put? That's a very good point. I'm sure the drop dates vary from state to state but I would imagine by November they'd all have 'taken' enrollment.
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Post by gs11rmb on Oct 14, 2020 12:30:13 GMT -5
I had no interest in joining a pod because the equity issue bothers me but then I turned around and hired a reading tutor. I am now spending hundreds of dollars a month on my child all the while knowing that there are thousands of children in our district that need additional help, are not receiving any, and will fall further and further behind. Please. Give your kids the education they deserve, tailored to how they learn, and don't feel bad about it. I wish I'd been able to do that with DS and I'm delighted to see it happening with my home-schooled grandchildren. Throwing the same material at the same pace at a group of kids different learning styles and abilities doesn't work. It never has. If you want to narrow the gap, donate to a private school so they can give scholarships to kids who otherwise wouldn't be able to go there, or volunteer for an after-school homework help program or donate at one of the sites where teachers ask for specific learning materials for their schools. I don't feel guilty about helping my daughter but I do feel very sad for all the kids who are not getting the help they need. I agree with many of your posts but I think we fundamentally view education in very different ways. I will never donate to a private school to provide scholarships to poor kids. I would much prefer to donate to a local school district to help fund, for example, literacy teachers that will help dozens of children at a time.
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