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Post by thyme4change on Oct 3, 2020 19:10:57 GMT -5
So, PE is tricky. The standards generally include student interaction and physical demonstration of skills. Many PE teachers will have a "daily grade" to score students on the skills for that week/unit. If a student is excused--as getting full credit for doing nothing--then teacher is forced to give credit with an A; ethically that's a problem for the teacher and consistency in grading procedures. Where's the line for being excused. Is a doctor's note required? Is it a parent validation of illness? What if a student can't afford to go to the doctor and his parents are drunks? Many PE teachers will have a way for a student to "make up" a missed class. Usually it's along the line of a physical activity done outside of the school, and the student has somehow documented it. Have you/your son asked about that option for this specific case?
When a student is excused with no make-up, the other option to just giving the "free credit" is to eliminate the credit that the is responsible for. So in a full year, let's say there are 100 days of PE and each day is worth 5 points. That's 500 points. If a student is excused from half of that resulting in 250 points, then there is far less opportunity for the student earn an A for the class. This plan is not fair to the student but is more fair in "grading" consistency.
If there is no way for your son to make up the PE days he is missing, dropping the class is actually the fairest approach. He just doesn't take that class this term and schedules it for another term when he's feeling better. He doesn't have to make it up; he doesn't get "free" credit; he doesn't get penalized by having a smaller amount of points to work with. I get that the teacher may have had a poopy attitude when he said "drop the class", but for high school credit, this is a sticky situation. How do you drop a non-optional class? PE is mandatory every semester. Do you take 2 periods of PE? He is only required 1 year of PE. He took it both 9th and 10th grade, but this year he wanted to take weightlifting as one of his electives, which they turned into general PE . He should be cleared to work out after fall break when the next semester starts. So it shouldn't be a problem for him.
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Post by jerseygirl on Oct 3, 2020 20:14:15 GMT -5
DD almost flunked high school because failed one (last) semester of required 4 years of PE Granted she was smart ass and just didn’t attend. She ran track plus was a competitive ice skater but HS wouldn’t accept ice skating as a substitute She was in National honors society I went to principal and had a serious conversation since we were never informed while the PE class was ongoing. Principal let it pass
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Oct 3, 2020 22:22:33 GMT -5
So, PE is tricky. The standards generally include student interaction and physical demonstration of skills. Many PE teachers will have a "daily grade" to score students on the skills for that week/unit. If a student is excused--as getting full credit for doing nothing--then teacher is forced to give credit with an A; ethically that's a problem for the teacher and consistency in grading procedures. Where's the line for being excused. Is a doctor's note required? Is it a parent validation of illness? What if a student can't afford to go to the doctor and his parents are drunks? Many PE teachers will have a way for a student to "make up" a missed class. Usually it's along the line of a physical activity done outside of the school, and the student has somehow documented it. Have you/your son asked about that option for this specific case?
When a student is excused with no make-up, the other option to just giving the "free credit" is to eliminate the credit that the is responsible for. So in a full year, let's say there are 100 days of PE and each day is worth 5 points. That's 500 points. If a student is excused from half of that resulting in 250 points, then there is far less opportunity for the student earn an A for the class. This plan is not fair to the student but is more fair in "grading" consistency.
If there is no way for your son to make up the PE days he is missing, dropping the class is actually the fairest approach. He just doesn't take that class this term and schedules it for another term when he's feeling better. He doesn't have to make it up; he doesn't get "free" credit; he doesn't get penalized by having a smaller amount of points to work with. I get that the teacher may have had a poopy attitude when he said "drop the class", but for high school credit, this is a sticky situation. The semester ends on Friday and the doctor told him not to work out, so we can't drop the class in time to bounce the semester, nor can he do any workouts to catch up. So, my kid will get a C instead of an A, and the possibility of his scholarship to his preferred school is gone. Particularly crushing because my son is an athlete. If it was a C because he absolutely couldn't get through English, it would be one thing, but a C in PE just blows. If it wasn't for Covid, the semester would be longer and he would have time to fix the situation. Plus, it isn't like anyone is doing the work anyway. They do 15 minutes of push-ups and jumping jacks twice a week over zoom, and then they turn in a questionaire the other days saying they did a workout. If I had known it was going to go down like this, I would have just let him turn in bogus workout reports like all his friends do. Also, if the PE teacher had called us back the two times we called him to discuss the situation, we may have been able to suggest something - walking, stretching, reading health articles - something, anything. But the douchebag couldn't be bothered to talk to us. Just give him zeros. His other teachers have been awesome. There is one in every school. This teacher must be on a power trip. I'm sorry.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Oct 3, 2020 22:23:57 GMT -5
In my state, the state only requires one full year of PE to meet graduation requirements. One full year of health is also required.
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Post by azucena on Oct 4, 2020 11:52:33 GMT -5
How do you drop a non-optional class? PE is mandatory every semester. Do you take 2 periods of PE? He is only required 1 year of PE. He took it both 9th and 10th grade, but this year he wanted to take weightlifting as one of his electives, which they turned into general PE . He should be cleared to work out after fall break when the next semester starts. So it shouldn't be a problem for him. What happens if you go above the teacher?
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Post by azucena on Oct 4, 2020 12:01:18 GMT -5
Sorry didn't mean to be vague. Just frustrated that this is yet another complexity of the pandemic that is directly impacting my family. Our private K-8 school went from 180 kids to 248 with 68 new kids. Great for the school as we also opened our new building and needed additional enrollment to increase funding. Bad because so many kids at once is disruptive. My daughter's second grade classroom went from 13 to 19 and it sounds like at least 2 of the boys have behavioral problems which our school isn't particularly equipped to deal with. Besides being mama bear angry, I'm also disappointed that our school administrators keep bragging about the growth and waiting lists which I think has been a bit at our current families expense. DD12's 7th grade class added a kid that's clearly on the spectrum, and she's gone out of her way to be nice to him because he's irritatingly quirky and doesn't follow social cues. And now he's making it very difficult to balance him with her core group of friends. And this is a disruption that my 12 yo didn't need either. Plus I heard thru the grapevine that his folks aren't happy about putting him in our school and are bad-mouthing our school so I just want to say pull him and deal with him at home now. None of this is very Christian of me, but this year has maxxed me out. How's this going? On Thurs, the problem second grade boy pulled the backpack tail strings of DD8's friend causing her to fall down. DD8 stood up for friend and yelled at the boy to let go. She sent another friend to get the teacher and stood between the boy and her friend until teacher arrived. She came home from school absolutely proud of herself for standing up for her friend and the boy got in trouble. Teacher told the friend's mom what had happened, and so I got a text from the mom saying to tell DD8 thank you. Friend's mom said her daughter said DD8 said that her mom had been telling her to stand up for herself and her friends. So even though they are still having to deal with this boy, it's nice to see progress being made. And DD8 now knows she has another ally in this friend because her mom was going to reinforce the same lessons. And it also makes another mom/family complaining about the behavior problems. DD12's new kid keep wanting to talk about politics. He keeps asking if she's liberal or conservative so they can debate. He won't drop it which frustrates her. Finally, I said if I were in her shoes, the next time he asked, I'd answer with "I'm 12" and leave it go because I'm much more of a smartass than she is. She proudly reported that it worked like a charm. He kept pushing the question and ended up getting bent out of shape. Another boy also asked if she supported the supreme court justice nominee to which she said "I'm 12". Both are making me proud!
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 4, 2020 14:09:26 GMT -5
He is only required 1 year of PE. He took it both 9th and 10th grade, but this year he wanted to take weightlifting as one of his electives, which they turned into general PE . He should be cleared to work out after fall break when the next semester starts. So it shouldn't be a problem for him. What happens if you go above the teacher? We were contacted by the vice principal in charge of attendance (or something like that.) Clearly, this is not the first time they have had a student have to miss a few weeks of school, so we have been following the procedure. Part of that is copying the VP on all emails. We were actually wondering if that pissed the PE teacher off. But, we have copied the guy on all the classes too. I have a feeling there will be some type of make up work that will show up this week and the worst will be a B. Still not ideal in my mind, but I guess life has pitfalls.
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Post by giramomma on Oct 6, 2020 7:50:43 GMT -5
We got our first look at the schedule for hybrid. If the peanut were returning to school, she would be dropped off at 7:50. Classes wouldn't start until 8:45. From 7:50-noon, she has 2 hours of academics. The rest of the time is either spent waiting, focusing on hygene, or lunch/recess. Lunch is 15 minutes. At least in the afternoon the waiting around/hygiene time is minimized. The afternoon is 3 hours, and two are focused on academics.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 8:24:34 GMT -5
If the peanut were returning to school, she would be dropped off at 7:50. Classes wouldn't start until 8:45. From 7:50-noon, she has 2 hours of academics. The rest of the time is either spent waiting, focusing on hygiene, or lunch/recess. Lunch is 15 minutes. At least in the afternoon the waiting around/hygiene time is minimized. The afternoon is 3 hours, and two are focused on academics. Wow. That's awful. Even allowing for extra time to sanitize things that's a heck of a lot of wasted time. And 15 minutes for lunch? Does that include going through the lunch line? No wonder we have so much of an issue with overweight in this country- at that rate you'd have to practically swallow your food whole and run out the door. No time at all for mindful eating.
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Post by giramomma on Oct 6, 2020 10:15:33 GMT -5
If the peanut were returning to school, she would be dropped off at 7:50. Classes wouldn't start until 8:45. From 7:50-noon, she has 2 hours of academics. The rest of the time is either spent waiting, focusing on hygiene, or lunch/recess. Lunch is 15 minutes. At least in the afternoon the waiting around/hygiene time is minimized. The afternoon is 3 hours, and two are focused on academics. Wow. That's awful. Even allowing for extra time to sanitize things that's a heck of a lot of wasted time. And 15 minutes for lunch? Does that include going through the lunch line? No wonder we have so much of an issue with overweight in this country- at that rate you'd have to practically swallow your food whole and run out the door. No time at all for mindful eating. There is no lunch line. Covid. Kids have to bring a packed lunch and eat in the classrooms. Normally their lunch time is 45 minutes-split between recess and eating. We're actually almost done for the day, in terms of getting the peanut through the academic work. She also got a bath in as well. Just need to practice some math facts and coasting.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Oct 6, 2020 10:56:48 GMT -5
We got our first look at the schedule for hybrid. If the peanut were returning to school, she would be dropped off at 7:50. Classes wouldn't start until 8:45. From 7:50-noon, she has 2 hours of academics. The rest of the time is either spent waiting, focusing on hygene, or lunch/recess. Lunch is 15 minutes. At least in the afternoon the waiting around/hygiene time is minimized. The afternoon is 3 hours, and two are focused on academics. That seems horrific.
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Post by giramomma on Oct 6, 2020 11:57:13 GMT -5
We got our first look at the schedule for hybrid. If the peanut were returning to school, she would be dropped off at 7:50. Classes wouldn't start until 8:45. From 7:50-noon, she has 2 hours of academics. The rest of the time is either spent waiting, focusing on hygene, or lunch/recess. Lunch is 15 minutes. At least in the afternoon the waiting around/hygiene time is minimized. The afternoon is 3 hours, and two are focused on academics. That seems horrific. It's what the majority of the parents want so they can send their kids to school two days a week, even when we are a hot spot state.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Oct 6, 2020 20:24:01 GMT -5
So, PE is tricky. The standards generally include student interaction and physical demonstration of skills. Many PE teachers will have a "daily grade" to score students on the skills for that week/unit. If a student is excused--as getting full credit for doing nothing--then teacher is forced to give credit with an A; ethically that's a problem for the teacher and consistency in grading procedures. Where's the line for being excused. Is a doctor's note required? Is it a parent validation of illness? What if a student can't afford to go to the doctor and his parents are drunks? Many PE teachers will have a way for a student to "make up" a missed class. Usually it's along the line of a physical activity done outside of the school, and the student has somehow documented it. Have you/your son asked about that option for this specific case?
When a student is excused with no make-up, the other option to just giving the "free credit" is to eliminate the credit that the is responsible for. So in a full year, let's say there are 100 days of PE and each day is worth 5 points. That's 500 points. If a student is excused from half of that resulting in 250 points, then there is far less opportunity for the student earn an A for the class. This plan is not fair to the student but is more fair in "grading" consistency.
If there is no way for your son to make up the PE days he is missing, dropping the class is actually the fairest approach. He just doesn't take that class this term and schedules it for another term when he's feeling better. He doesn't have to make it up; he doesn't get "free" credit; he doesn't get penalized by having a smaller amount of points to work with. I get that the teacher may have had a poopy attitude when he said "drop the class", but for high school credit, this is a sticky situation. The semester ends on Friday and the doctor told him not to work out, so we can't drop the class in time to bounce the semester, nor can he do any workouts to catch up. So, my kid will get a C instead of an A, and the possibility of his scholarship to his preferred school is gone. Particularly crushing because my son is an athlete. If it was a C because he absolutely couldn't get through English, it would be one thing, but a C in PE just blows. If it wasn't for Covid, the semester would be longer and he would have time to fix the situation. Plus, it isn't like anyone is doing the work anyway. They do 15 minutes of push-ups and jumping jacks twice a week over zoom, and then they turn in a questionaire the other days saying they did a workout. If I had known it was going to go down like this, I would have just let him turn in bogus workout reports like all his friends do. Also, if the PE teacher had called us back the two times we called him to discuss the situation, we may have been able to suggest something - walking, stretching, reading health articles - something, anything. But the douchebag couldn't be bothered to talk to us. Just give him zeros. His other teachers have been awesome. There is one in every school. That’s really shitty. It’s gym and he is sick, ffs! How is that any different than making accommodations for kids with disabilities or pre-existing conditions? I would be flipping shit. At the end of the day, this gym teacher is a hard ass for zero reason. In my school, we either passed or failed. I never even heard of getting graded for gym. And the fact that the gym grade could actually hurt him for college blows my Mind. Who cares about gym??
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 6, 2020 20:37:32 GMT -5
The teacher must have felt the pressure. He assigned my son some written homework. My son has done it and turned it in. I am not sure it has been graded - probably out of spite.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Oct 6, 2020 21:27:18 GMT -5
The teacher must have felt the pressure. He assigned my son some written homework. My son has done it and turned it in. I am not sure it has been graded - probably out of spite. This gym teacher sounds like the stereotypical gym teacher/coach in movies. A complete douchecanoe! I hope this guy sees the light and cuts your son some slack
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 6, 2020 22:01:37 GMT -5
The teacher must have felt the pressure. He assigned my son some written homework. My son has done it and turned it in. I am not sure it has been graded - probably out of spite. This gym teacher sounds like the stereotypical gym teacher/coach in movies. A complete douchecanoe! I hope this guy sees the light and cuts your son some slack He certainly isn't breaking any stereotypes in my book. We are now hearing stories about other troubles with this guy. Oh well, everyone has to have a teacher that teaches them how to deal with a dick.
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Post by irishpad on Oct 6, 2020 22:27:12 GMT -5
This gym teacher sounds like the stereotypical gym teacher/coach in movies. A complete douchecanoe! I hope this guy sees the light and cuts your son some slack He certainly isn't breaking any stereotypes in my book. We are now hearing stories about other troubles with this guy. Oh well, everyone has to have a teacher that teaches them how to deal with a dick. Omg, can people have some common sense during this time? What a jerk.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Oct 7, 2020 10:31:39 GMT -5
It's what the majority of the parents want so they can send their kids to school two days a week, even when we are a hot spot state. I mean, we are home 100% of the time, and yeah it sucks, but at least there isn't pointless compromise and standing around doing nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 10:43:17 GMT -5
He certainly isn't breaking any stereotypes in my book. We are now hearing stories about other troubles with this guy. Oh well, everyone has to have a teacher that teaches them how to deal with a dick. Is he tenured?
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Post by giramomma on Oct 7, 2020 12:07:35 GMT -5
It's what the majority of the parents want so they can send their kids to school two days a week, even when we are a hot spot state. I mean, we are home 100% of the time, and yeah it sucks, but at least there isn't pointless compromise and standing around doing nothing. The parents don't care that was have at least one first year teacher that doesn't have a teaching degree. They don't care that the school is hiring warm bodies to be baby-sitters for their kids to keep class sizes at 15. They consider the private education they are buying in the same vein that they consider any other service they might hire out....whether it's getting house cleaners, lawn service etc. They just don't give a shit how it gets done, as long as it gets done and they don't have to do it.
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 7, 2020 14:23:55 GMT -5
He certainly isn't breaking any stereotypes in my book. We are now hearing stories about other troubles with this guy. Oh well, everyone has to have a teacher that teaches them how to deal with a dick. Is he tenured? Do high schools have tenure? My guess is he is untouchable - tenure system or not. I think he has worked there his whole career, and he may have even graduated from there back in the 80's? Every school has one. Fall break is next week, and my son will be cleared to work out after that. Then he just has to out up with the douche until Christmas and then he is done. Even though he wanted to take weightlifting, he will skip it and just go to a gym.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 16:14:15 GMT -5
Do high schools have tenure? In NNJ the teachers in my son's GRADE school could have tenure! And the few times (maybe 3) he had teachers he wasn't crazy about, I generally agreed with his assessment after meeting them, and they were tenured. (He asked.)
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Post by anciana on Oct 9, 2020 14:39:01 GMT -5
Could someone, please, help me understand the quarantine process now that the schools are in-person, 2-5 days a week?
What do your schools require when a student or staff has been exposed? Ours require a 14 day quarantine after the known date of exposure for the person exposed, nothing for the members of their family unless they themselves become symptomatic, and no testing is required from what I can see on their website. I guess the county/state says a person should wait to get tested about 7 days after exposure and that they can get tested if they experience symptoms, but it never says you should get tested at some point during quarantine.
So, if someone was exposed, they will need to quarantine for two weeks and then, if no symptoms, they're allowed to come back to school without any testing done even though they could potentially be positive and asymptomatic, do I have that correct? yikes
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Post by TheOtherMe on Oct 9, 2020 15:10:32 GMT -5
In Iowa schools, there is no such thing as quarantine unless you are considered as being in direct contact with someone who has tested positive. One of their criteria is that means more than 15 minutes of being within 6 feet of someone. So schools are playing musical chairs every 14 minutes. Since one of the governor's metrics for schools to go online is 10% absenteeism. Governor says staff and students who are out because of quarantine do not count in the absenteeism rate.
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Post by anciana on Oct 9, 2020 15:25:46 GMT -5
In Iowa schools, there is no such thing as quarantine unless you are considered as being in direct contact with someone who has tested positive. One of their criteria is that means more than 15 minutes of being within 6 feet of someone. So schools are playing musical chairs every 14 minutes. Since one of the governor's metrics for schools to go online is 10% absenteeism. Governor says staff and students who are out because of quarantine do not count in the absenteeism rate. Are you sure you're not kidding? Are they really making everyone in a classroom switch chairs every 14 minutes?!? So in a period of an hour, the kids would move 3 times?!? Are they also cleaning everything that the previous desk occupant touched? How do they get any learning done?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2020 17:47:04 GMT -5
Back in the "olden days" (think Kennedy's Presidential Fitness awards, etc.), physical education was elevated from a minor to a major. You took four years of it, and you were graded on your skill. If you couldn't do X number of pull-ups in X number of minutes, your grades suffered. There was some subjective part ("participation"), but only true athletes got A's.
As a freshman in high school, I was in competition for something known as the Freshman Book Award. It went to the freshman with the highest gpa. I wasn't allowed by my aunt (she went to the principal and insisted) to have a study hall. So I had 6 courses, 5 A's and 1 C (PE). The guy who won had 5 A's, one being ROTC. That, too, is skill based, but not athletic skill. I learned to improve my PE grade by hanging out with the cheerleader group (only casually but especially during PE) since the PE teacher was the cheerleader sponsor.
I would be the first in line to take this up with the VP (we call them AP or asst principals). But if my child was penalized for being sick, I'd have escalated to the principal and even the board if necessary. And I am a teacher. Teachers aren't entitled to the power trip you describe. Tenured or not, someone can reverse it.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Oct 9, 2020 18:02:16 GMT -5
In Iowa schools, there is no such thing as quarantine unless you are considered as being in direct contact with someone who has tested positive. One of their criteria is that means more than 15 minutes of being within 6 feet of someone. So schools are playing musical chairs every 14 minutes. Since one of the governor's metrics for schools to go online is 10% absenteeism. Governor says staff and students who are out because of quarantine do not count in the absenteeism rate. Are you sure you're not kidding? Are they really making everyone in a classroom switch chairs every 14 minutes?!? So in a period of an hour, the kids would move 3 times?!? Are they also cleaning everything that the previous desk occupant touched? How do they get any learning done? According to what parents in some districts are saying, I am not kidding. It's happening in elementary schools. No, nothing is being cleaned and the parents say there isn't much learning happening.
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Post by giramomma on Oct 9, 2020 18:13:47 GMT -5
Could someone, please, help me understand the quarantine process now that the schools are in-person, 2-5 days a week? What do your schools require when a student or staff has been exposed? Ours require a 14 day quarantine after the known date of exposure for the person exposed, nothing for the members of their family unless they themselves become symptomatic, and no testing is required from what I can see on their website. I guess the county/state says a person should wait to get tested about 7 days after exposure and that they can get tested if they experience symptoms, but it never says you should get tested at some point during quarantine. So, if someone was exposed, they will need to quarantine for two weeks and then, if no symptoms, they're allowed to come back to school without any testing done even though they could potentially be positive and asymptomatic, do I have that correct? yikes Our public health is similar, except family members also have to quarantine if they have been exposed. Now, what the school actual will do? Who the hell knows. They aren't following our county's public health. They are following the CDC's recommendations, which are far more liberal..With the numbers/100,000 in our state, the kids are going back to school, in hybrid fashion, with moderate risk. Our city hospitals are looking at slowing down elective procedures due to the increase in hospitalizations. Metrics, smectrics.
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Post by teen persuasion on Oct 9, 2020 18:42:31 GMT -5
There was an article in the local newspaper - school districts aren't sure which county rules to enforce about quarantine, because several districts cross county borders, or have students from 2 or 3 counties, and each county board of health can implement rules differently.
So one county may insist on quarantine if you are within 6' for more than 15 minutes. Another if you are in a room with a positive case for an hour (regardless of distance). Some combine both (either/or). Everyone is really confused - do they implement the rule for the county the school lies in, or for the students' home county? For that matter, the rules keep changing as new issues come up, and some changes are verbal, some written. Are the verbal ones immediately in effect, or just a heads up for a change in written rules coming eventually?
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