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Post by Blonde Granny on Apr 15, 2020 10:51:09 GMT -5
Well, I went to the IRS website here you can check your status. It appears that the IRS doesn't have any information on me therefore can't do a direct deposit. So, staying on their website I answered all the questions i.e checking act # routing # yada. Then came the winner! Enter how much money you received as a refund or how much you owed the IRS. The magic answer for me is (-0- zero). Opps, no its not try again.....tried any different way to tell it NONE, ZERO etc. Nope.....Now, my CPA filed my return, even the attached letter says I neither owned or received anything.
So, I guess IF I get some of this magic money it will be in the form of a check signed by our President.
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Post by jerseygirl on Apr 15, 2020 11:03:55 GMT -5
Well, I went to the IRS website here you can check your status. It appears that the IRS doesn't have any information on me therefore can't do a direct deposit. So, staying on their website I answered all the questions i.e checking act # routing # yada. Then came the winner! Enter how much money you received as a refund or how much you owed the IRS. The magic answer for me is (-0- zero). Opps, no its not try again.....tried any different way to tell it NONE, ZERO etc. Nope.....Now, my CPA filed my return, even the attached letter says I neither owned or received anything. So, I guess IF I get some of this magic money it will be in the form of a check signed by our President. Do you receive SS direct deposit? Think it would be deposited in that account
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Post by Blonde Granny on Apr 15, 2020 11:10:15 GMT -5
Well, I went to the IRS website here you can check your status. It appears that the IRS doesn't have any information on me therefore can't do a direct deposit. So, staying on their website I answered all the questions i.e checking act # routing # yada. Then came the winner! Enter how much money you received as a refund or how much you owed the IRS. The magic answer for me is (-0- zero). Opps, no its not try again.....tried any different way to tell it NONE, ZERO etc. Nope.....Now, my CPA filed my return, even the attached letter says I neither owned or received anything. So, I guess IF I get some of this magic money it will be in the form of a check signed by our President. Do you receive SS direct deposit? Think it would be deposited in that account Yes, I sure do.....and VA disability comes into that account also. PLUS, my CPA electronic files the return and has for the past 3 years. I was using the IRS website, but just in case, I've moved the money from that account to another one. The issue with getting the info into the IRS website was that I didn't receive a refund or owe the IRS any money. It's been that way for 2 years now. oh well, send me a check or not, I really don't care.
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Post by jerseygirl on Apr 15, 2020 11:22:19 GMT -5
Do you receive SS direct deposit? Think it would be deposited in that account Yes, I sure do.....and VA disability comes into that account also. PLUS, my CPA electronic files the return and has for the past 3 years. I was using the IRS website, but just in case, I've moved the money from that account to another one. The issue with getting the info into the IRS website was that I didn't receive a refund or owe the IRS any money. It's been that way for 2 years now. oh well, send me a check or not, I really don't care. I think the check isn’t dependent on receiving a refund In general it’s based on your adjusted gross income. A single person $75000 or less. Seems like you’ll be under this if you only get SS and vet benefits but look at your 2019 or 2018 return for the adjusted gross income line
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Post by daisylu on Apr 15, 2020 11:26:36 GMT -5
We do not have anything pending, so I checked the IRS site and all I got was "According to information that we have on file, we cannot determine your eligibility for a payment at this time.". We are well below the AGI threshold and got our taxes back 2 weeks ago, so I do not know what to think.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Apr 15, 2020 11:32:47 GMT -5
I just realized, using the online calculator, that they used our total income instead of agi in determining our stimulus amount. They are two different lines on the 1040 form. Can't screw that up. I'm sure it wasn't just ours. Hope to see something from others here and in the news about it. ETA. $820 difference.
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Post by Blonde Granny on Apr 15, 2020 11:56:32 GMT -5
Yes, I sure do.....and VA disability comes into that account also. PLUS, my CPA electronic files the return and has for the past 3 years. I was using the IRS website, but just in case, I've moved the money from that account to another one. The issue with getting the info into the IRS website was that I didn't receive a refund or owe the IRS any money. It's been that way for 2 years now. oh well, send me a check or not, I really don't care. I think the check isn’t dependent on receiving a refund In general it’s based on your adjusted gross income. A single person $75000 or less. Seems like you’ll be under this if you only get SS and vet benefits but look at your 2019 or 2018 return for the adjusted gross income line I had to enter my AGI....which isn't much. Hence, I pay no quarterly taxes because I don't owe any taxes.
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Post by Blonde Granny on Apr 15, 2020 11:58:05 GMT -5
We do not have anything pending, so I checked the IRS site and all I got was "According to information that we have on file, we cannot determine your eligibility for a payment at this time.". We are well below the AGI threshold and got our taxes back 2 weeks ago, so I do not know what to think. That was exactly the response I got from the IRS. And it all went fine until the receiver/payer showed up and the program didn't like the answer of 0. It made me feel better though to see that someone else got the same response. I had gotten a little nervous and moved money out of my checking account, just in case it was a scam things.
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Post by teen persuasion on Apr 15, 2020 12:10:46 GMT -5
Well, I went to the IRS website here you can check your status. It appears that the IRS doesn't have any information on me therefore can't do a direct deposit. So, staying on their website I answered all the questions i.e checking act # routing # yada. Then came the winner! Enter how much money you received as a refund or how much you owed the IRS. The magic answer for me is (-0- zero). Opps, no its not try again.....tried any different way to tell it NONE, ZERO etc. Nope.....Now, my CPA filed my return, even the attached letter says I neither owned or received anything. So, I guess IF I get some of this magic money it will be in the form of a check signed by our President. There's at least one thread on Bogleheads trying to track how to determine if they have your bank info for DD, and how to give the info to the treasury if they don't. It seems that this is one of the common problems - no refund AND nothing owed. You are in no man's land. The coders obviously never had MY CS professors - they taught us the hard way to make sure our programs didn't choke on bad data (unexpected inputs). This newly thrown up code seems to work for the most common scenarios (owe tax or got refund) but neglected those who meet neither scenario (another reason for $0 tax owed/refunded: applied refund to next year's taxes). The other common scenario I'm seeing on Bogleheads is: owed taxes, so paid by giving bank info for direct debit to IRS, but no pending stimulus deposit. Obviously, even though the govt has your bank info, they are not using that for deposits, only withdrawals. People who had refunds direct deposited have been getting stimulus money deposited with no intervention needed. Ours is pending, as of this morning - filed 2019 early March.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 15, 2020 12:15:09 GMT -5
Check hit our account this morning. Just now managed to access the bank's web site. Made the mistake of trying to transfer it and now I'm watching their web site buffer.
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 15, 2020 12:17:46 GMT -5
Check should hit any day now...I've decided the appropriate answer is "stump grinder".
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Post by wvugurl26 on Apr 15, 2020 12:18:17 GMT -5
I hope they fix the nothing owed and no refund situation. My grandma is in that boat. She gets a small pension, SS and dividends. She doesn't owe any taxes and there's no refund because she pays in nothing.
Our AGI is too high to get anything.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 15, 2020 12:22:54 GMT -5
I'm going to buy $3400 rolls of toilet paper and then set them on fire on my lawn for all my neighbors to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 12:30:48 GMT -5
I had an interesting development, which I was halfway expecting. I filed the 2019 return by paper, and the IRS has been unable to process it yet. So they used the 2018 return when DH had not yet died. So they deposited $2400 instead of $1200.
I tried to read online about what happens if you are paid too much. There are other scenarios possible. For example, your 2018 income might qualify you, but your 2019 income would not. Everything I read says there is no clawback provision. In one way that seems "fair" when some people are drawing more in unemployment than they did when they were working and some businesses not harmed by the covid virus are getting SBA loans that can be forgiven. In another way, it seems totally inept to issue a stimulus check for someone who is dead.
My son, who is a CPA and used to do personal income taxes but now does corporate taxes, said do nothing right now. He told me not to try to correct their mistake until I file 2020 taxes. He also suggested that I not spend it, which I won't, in case I do have to give it back. But now I am worried about a penalty if they want it back.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 12:35:52 GMT -5
@bamafan1954 - They claim no clawback of overpayments. There's a lot of people with dependents that will age out in 2020 so that question gets asked a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 12:41:28 GMT -5
@bamafan1954 - They claim no clawback of overpayments. There's a lot of people with dependents that will age out in 2020 so that question gets asked a lot. I hope so. But "they" aren't the IRS. The IRS will probably issue some official guidance on the issue once they get back to work.
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Post by snapdragon on Apr 15, 2020 13:34:35 GMT -5
I just paid my house payment and HELOC today.
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Post by tallguy on Apr 15, 2020 14:02:13 GMT -5
We do not have anything pending, so I checked the IRS site and all I got was "According to information that we have on file, we cannot determine your eligibility for a payment at this time.". We are well below the AGI threshold and got our taxes back 2 weeks ago, so I do not know what to think. That was exactly the response I got from the IRS. And it all went fine until the receiver/payer showed up and the program didn't like the answer of 0. It made me feel better though to see that someone else got the same response. I had gotten a little nervous and moved money out of my checking account, just in case it was a scam things. I got that response as well. My guess is that I won't receive my rebate this year and will have to wait until next. I did a large Roth conversion which put me way over the limit. I was leaving town for several weeks starting in mid-March, so filed the FreeFile Fillable Forms at that time, before the deadline was extended. My 2019 return is still not shown on the MyIRS page. It still shows 2018 as the last return I filed. That was giving me some hope that 2019 had not been processed and I would receive the payment this year and not have to wait, but perhaps not. Then again, the fact that other people easily qualify and still got the same message suggests that maybe this is still a rolling progress situation and they have just not gotten to us yet. Who knows?
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Post by oped on Apr 15, 2020 14:11:36 GMT -5
The IRS website doesn't seem to be working... I wouldn't trust what its telling you.
We are ok. But I wonder about other people... Can't access the IRS to give them direct deposit. PA still does not have an application process for self employed/contractors/gig workers... they say you can back apply once it is ready, but in the meantime? Its taking a long time of these things to sort out it feels like.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 14:16:52 GMT -5
That was exactly the response I got from the IRS. And it all went fine until the receiver/payer showed up and the program didn't like the answer of 0. It made me feel better though to see that someone else got the same response. I had gotten a little nervous and moved money out of my checking account, just in case it was a scam things. I got that response as well. My guess is that I won't receive my rebate this year and will have to wait until next. I did a large Roth conversion which put me way over the limit. I was leaving town for several weeks starting in mid-March, so filed the FreeFile Fillable Forms at that time, before the deadline was extended. My 2019 return is still not shown on the MyIRS page. It still shows 2018 as the last return I filed. That was giving me some hope that 2019 had not been processed and I would receive the payment this year and not have to wait, but perhaps not. Then again, the fact that other people easily qualify and still got the same message suggests that maybe this is still a rolling progress situation and they have just not gotten to us yet. Who knows? Did you file electronically or by mail? Go to the IRS Where's My Refund? site to see the status of your 2019 return if you filed electronically. If you filed by mail in March, they will definitely use 2018. Here's the link
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Post by tallguy on Apr 15, 2020 15:25:10 GMT -5
I got that response as well. My guess is that I won't receive my rebate this year and will have to wait until next. I did a large Roth conversion which put me way over the limit. I was leaving town for several weeks starting in mid-March, so filed the FreeFile Fillable Forms at that time, before the deadline was extended. My 2019 return is still not shown on the MyIRS page. It still shows 2018 as the last return I filed. That was giving me some hope that 2019 had not been processed and I would receive the payment this year and not have to wait, but perhaps not. Then again, the fact that other people easily qualify and still got the same message suggests that maybe this is still a rolling progress situation and they have just not gotten to us yet. Who knows? Did you file electronically or by mail? Go to the IRS Where's My Refund? site to see the status of your 2019 return if you filed electronically. If you filed by mail in March, they will definitely use 2018. Here's the linkNo. I did not mail it. I submitted electronically. And there is no refund coming. I cancelled the EFT payment I had set up for over $12,000 because I really didn't want to pay them yet! Update: There is a statement on the IRS site that reads (bolding mine):
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Post by Malarky on Apr 15, 2020 15:58:08 GMT -5
Does anyone know when the $600 UI kicker will start being paid? Does it have to go to the states UI office first, and then sent? I am assuming that would be the process? I received my first installment last Wednesday, the same day as my unemployment benefit. Today I got money from unemployment. It was more than I was expecting since I worked half time last week. It may have included the $600, but it wasn't clearly separated by state and federal as it was last week. I'm just grateful that money is going into my account. DH and I also each got our $1200 this morning. I'm pretty sure that unemployment is overpaying me at the moment. Our pay week is Friday to Thursday so I never have an accurate net to report for their Monday through Friday requests. So I give it my best guess. I also got a bonus I was unaware of when I filed two weeks ago. And this week I'll have tips (no retail staff for our Easter orders, a skeleton staff baked, packaged and brought bags to the curb.) I won't have those numbers until next Friday and I have to file UI on Sundays. I'm setting aside half of everything I get so I can pay back what I owe in the end. I am not getting into that 20,000 person phone queue to sort it out now. And I don't have accurate numbers to do so, even if I were willing.
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Post by jelloshots4all on Apr 15, 2020 17:23:29 GMT -5
Does anyone know when the $600 UI kicker will start being paid? Does it have to go to the states UI office first, and then sent? I am assuming that would be the process? I received my first installment last Wednesday, the same day as my unemployment benefit. Today I got money from unemployment. It was more than I was expecting since I worked half time last week. It may have included the $600, but it wasn't clearly separated by state and federal as it was last week. I'm just grateful that money is going into my account. DH and I also each got our $1200 this morning. I'm pretty sure that unemployment is overpaying me at the moment. Our pay week is Friday to Thursday so I never have an accurate net to report for their Monday through Friday requests. So I give it my best guess. I also got a bonus I was unaware of when I filed two weeks ago. And this week I'll have tips (no retail staff for our Easter orders, a skeleton staff baked, packaged and brought bags to the curb.) I won't have those numbers until next Friday and I have to file UI on Sundays. I'm setting aside half of everything I get so I can pay back what I owe in the end. I am not getting into that 20,000 person phone queue to sort it out now. And I don't have accurate numbers to do so, even if I were willing. Yeah my stupid state Republicans wouldn't waive the 1 week hold for UI, so we haven't even applied to the Fed Govt. Dem Govenor proposed it 3/17 when we first went on lockdown. GRRRRRRRRR
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Post by haapai on Apr 15, 2020 18:20:09 GMT -5
I lied when I said that I would buy the t-shirt and save the rest. It got deposited today. I didn't order the t-shirt.
Instead, I'm fighting the urge to buy a huge amount of groceries. I desperately want to set aside a stash of easy-to-prepare food that will get a household of two through a month of never leaving the house. There's a reason for this. I'm a grocery worker, and we don't get tested when we develop symptoms, we're just told to self-isolate immediately. Nobody checks to see if we have sufficient supplies to get through that period. If we want to do the right thing, we should be prepared to have much more than two weeks of no-fuss food on hand.
On the other hand, I know that this desire to buy massive amounts of Gatorade and canned soup is irrational (the stores will not have the stuff on the list) and that hording is not exactly community-minded.
I've managed to stay out of the store so far, but the fear and boredom is building up. The temptation to drive to another community and buy more stuff than I want my neighbors and coworkers to see me buying is also building up.
I'm not particularly proud of these emotions and impulses.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 18:26:24 GMT -5
I lied when I said that I would buy the t-shirt and save the rest. It got deposited today. I didn't order the t-shirt.
Instead, I'm fighting the urge to buy a huge amount of groceries. I desperately want to set aside a stash of easy-to-prepare food that will get a household of two through a month of never leaving the house. There's a reason for this. I'm a grocery worker, and we don't get tested when we develop symptoms, we're just told to self-isolate immediately. Nobody checks to see if we have sufficient supplies to get through that period. If we want to do the right thing, we should be prepared to have much more than two weeks of no-fuss food on hand.
On the other hand, I know that this desire to buy massive amounts of Gatorade and canned soup is irrational (the stores will not have the stuff on the list) and that hording is not exactly community-minded.
I've managed to stay out of the store so far, but the fear and boredom is building up. The temptation to drive to another community and buy more stuff than I want my neighbors and coworkers to see me buying is also building up.
I'm not particularly proud of these emotions and impulses.
Don't feel bad. There wasn't always food in the house when I was growing up, and I noticed that I am food hoarding. I don't mean I'm buying tons of toilet paper, etc., but there is more food (and more beer) in my house than I want to admit. Even the dog has two 12-pound bags of food. She also has 5 bags of treats! When they reopen the community, I want to be prepared for the inevitable spike. On a positive note, I made myself not go to the grocery store today. I sort of need bread, but not really. Mine is just a little less soft than I like it. I don't eat a loaf a week so I am going to resist. The real reason is that I can't go into a grocery store without buying even more food. And I need to stop.
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Post by haapai on Apr 15, 2020 19:52:03 GMT -5
I lied when I said that I would buy the t-shirt and save the rest. It got deposited today. I didn't order the t-shirt.
Instead, I'm fighting the urge to buy a huge amount of groceries. I desperately want to set aside a stash of easy-to-prepare food that will get a household of two through a month of never leaving the house. There's a reason for this. I'm a grocery worker, and we don't get tested when we develop symptoms, we're just told to self-isolate immediately. Nobody checks to see if we have sufficient supplies to get through that period. If we want to do the right thing, we should be prepared to have much more than two weeks of no-fuss food on hand.
On the other hand, I know that this desire to buy massive amounts of Gatorade and canned soup is irrational (the stores will not have the stuff on the list) and that hording is not exactly community-minded.
I've managed to stay out of the store so far, but the fear and boredom is building up. The temptation to drive to another community and buy more stuff than I want my neighbors and coworkers to see me buying is also building up.
I'm not particularly proud of these emotions and impulses.
Don't feel bad. There wasn't always food in the house when I was growing up, and I noticed that I am food hoarding. I don't mean I'm buying tons of toilet paper, etc., but there is more food (and more beer) in my house than I want to admit. Even the dog has two 12-pound bags of food. She also has 5 bags of treats! When they reopen the community, I want to be prepared for the inevitable spike. On a positive note, I made myself not go to the grocery store today. I sort of need bread, but not really. Mine is just a little less soft than I like it. I don't eat a loaf a week so I am going to resist. The real reason is that I can't go into a grocery store without buying even more food. And I need to stop. Strangely, there was always a lot of food, including a lot of non-perishable food in the house when I was growing up. So don't go flagellating yourself thinking that your urge to buy lots of it has much to do with growing up in a house that was poor or disorganized or the survivors of famine. Buying lots of food, often surreptitiously, seems to be a strategy that all sorts of folks gravitate toward when things get uncertain.
Don't flog yourself for wanting to go to the grocery store just to find out what is going on either. That's also a really, really normal urge and, from my experience in much different contexts that did not involve contagious respiratory illnesses, often an adaptive one.
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Post by justme on Apr 15, 2020 20:03:21 GMT -5
I'm going to buy $3400 rolls of toilet paper and then set them on fire on my lawn for all my neighbors to watch. You know the proper YMAM response is to figure out what the next it item will be, purchase $3400 of it, and the double your money once the stores run out. Mostly because quadrupling it is just greedy.
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Post by lynnerself on Apr 15, 2020 20:29:19 GMT -5
DH wants to give our money to the kids to put into their Roth IRAs while the markets are down.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Apr 15, 2020 21:38:00 GMT -5
I lied when I said that I would buy the t-shirt and save the rest. It got deposited today. I didn't order the t-shirt.
Instead, I'm fighting the urge to buy a huge amount of groceries. I desperately want to set aside a stash of easy-to-prepare food that will get a household of two through a month of never leaving the house. There's a reason for this. I'm a grocery worker, and we don't get tested when we develop symptoms, we're just told to self-isolate immediately. Nobody checks to see if we have sufficient supplies to get through that period. If we want to do the right thing, we should be prepared to have much more than two weeks of no-fuss food on hand.
On the other hand, I know that this desire to buy massive amounts of Gatorade and canned soup is irrational (the stores will not have the stuff on the list) and that hording is not exactly community-minded.
I've managed to stay out of the store so far, but the fear and boredom is building up. The temptation to drive to another community and buy more stuff than I want my neighbors and coworkers to see me buying is also building up.
I'm not particularly proud of these emotions and impulses.
Don’t be so hard on yourself. You know the risk — you’re living it at work. Making sure you’re well-stocked for a long-stretch makes perfect sense. It likely also helps you to go to work and deal with that stress without worrying how you’ll feed your own household. Thank you for being on the front lines.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Apr 15, 2020 21:44:04 GMT -5
I happened to see a site for IRS to check the status of your check. It would not recognize hubs nor my ss no and kept saying put in zip code and it would say I didn't. I gave up. And had to wait to get into it to begin with. What a total mess.
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