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Post by pulmonarymd on May 14, 2021 18:09:11 GMT -5
It will keep many of us from getting it. It will also decrease your chance of getting severely ill if you catch it
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Post by kadee79 on May 14, 2021 20:48:00 GMT -5
Still sounds like Covid 19 is something to be concerned about even if you ARE vaccinated - you could be asymptomatic (and spreading it around) or you could still have a bout of it (even if it's not as bad as it could be). So if those of us who are vaccinated are spreading it...those who AREN'T vaccinated will be the ones who get really sick & some of them will die. That sounds like a really good reason to get vaccinated. LOL!
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 14, 2021 22:05:43 GMT -5
Still sounds like Covid 19 is something to be concerned about even if you ARE vaccinated - you could be asymptomatic (and spreading it around) or you could still have a bout of it (even if it's not as bad as it could be). So if those of us who are vaccinated are spreading it...those who AREN'T vaccinated will be the ones who get really sick & some of them will die. That sounds like a really good reason to get vaccinated. LOL! You think!
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Post by Tiny on May 14, 2021 22:55:18 GMT -5
I'm not too keen on the part where I might not get sick (or so sick) but I still might bring it to family/friends (also vaccinated) who might have a far worse bout with it than I did.
It seems the vaccine hasn't made it less "catchy"...
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 15, 2021 2:19:03 GMT -5
I'm not too keen on the part where I might not get sick (or so sick) but I still might bring it to family/friends (also vaccinated) who might have a far worse bout with it than I did. It seems the vaccine hasn't made it less "catchy"... Sure it has. Some studies show the risk of asymptotic infections is decreased by 86%. You are much less likely to spread it. It is still possible. We n addition, viral load decreases as well, also decreasing your infectivity
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Post by kadee79 on May 15, 2021 13:34:14 GMT -5
I'm not too keen on the part where I might not get sick (or so sick) but I still might bring it to family/friends (also vaccinated) who might have a far worse bout with it than I did. It seems the vaccine hasn't made it less "catchy"... Sure it has. Some studies show the risk of asymptotic infections is decreased by 86%. You are much less likely to spread it. It is still possible. We n addition, viral load decreases as well, also decreasing your infectivity ALL things are possible, but a huge amount never come to fruition. I'd much rather be a vaccinated person with a SLIGHT risk of contracting the virus...and if I did get it, a major likelihood of having a minor case or have no symptoms at all. We lost one of my DH's brothers to this virus...he was an anti-vaxxer....his wife got it after he died, but had a case that only required her to stay at home in bed until she was able to fight it off. She was lucky & now has had her shots. And perhaps more folks need reminded that NO vaccine is 100% effective. Aren't most flu vaccines only like 40-60% effective?....but if you do get the flu, you will most likely have a milder case?
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 15, 2021 13:40:43 GMT -5
Sure it has. Some studies show the risk of asymptotic infections is decreased by 86%. You are much less likely to spread it. It is still possible. We n addition, viral load decreases as well, also decreasing your infectivity ALL things are possible, but a huge amount never come to fruition. I'd much rather be a vaccinated person with a SLIGHT risk of contracting the virus...and if I did get it, a major likelihood of having a minor case or have no symptoms at all. We lost one of my DH's brothers to this virus...he was an anti-vaxxer....his wife got it after he died, but had a case that only required her to stay at home in bed until she was able to fight it off. She was lucky & now has had her shots. And perhaps more folks need reminded that NO vaccine is 100% effective. Aren't most flu vaccines only like 40-60% effective?....but if you do get the flu, you will most likely have a milder case?Correct
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Post by djAdvocate on May 15, 2021 19:45:37 GMT -5
yeah. that is one thing about this pandemic. we all got a crash course in immunity and virus.
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Post by Tiny on Sept 22, 2021 18:56:22 GMT -5
It looks like the USofA will roll past 700K deaths on the World-o-Meter tomorrow - 9/23/2021.
::sigh:: We were at about 450K dead in February 2021. So about 250K additional deaths in 7 months.
The CDC estimates that about 36,000 people in the US die from the flu each year.
Looks like Covid19 is killing about 35,000 people in the US per month.
Yeah, Covid19 is totally like influenza - absolutely... just like it....
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Sept 22, 2021 20:08:22 GMT -5
Or a really bad cold --------NOT.
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Post by kadee79 on Sept 22, 2021 21:26:05 GMT -5
Let me tell you a true story about a family....the parents have 3 adult daughters, all married. One daughter's MIL got covid & died. The that daughter who just happened to be pregnant got covid and was in the hospital for over a month fighting for her & her baby's lives...she made & delivered, but is still fighting the after effects...no taste, no smell. While she was in the hospital her husband got it too, but he didn't require hospital...he fought it off at home. The the original couple, her youngest brother got it & died about 3 weeks ago. She has 2 other unvaccinated brothers still. Then last week they got a call, their 15 y.o. granddaughter was super sick, had been taken to the hospital, put in ICU & on a ventilator...8 hrs. later she was gone. I don't know how much more just this one family can endure...she & her DH are vaccinated. That was 3 deaths so far this year & 2 super sick & fighting. I'm sure this isn't the only family that has had it rough. But it's just sooooo hard.
Get the vaccination to protect others if for no other reason...and wear a mask!
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Post by Value Buy on Sept 29, 2021 13:57:25 GMT -5
Although I have been away from the board for months and months, I do keep this issue on my mind and follow the numbers still coming in on my Facebook account....... I noticed a lot of bickering going on here, all Trump's fault, and so on, and that was not my intent. The intent was to educate ourselves on this stuff........Oh well, carry on! Kadee, your post above this one, hit me hard. I have a couple of relatives who are almost non political (no preference, and some never even vote) and refuse to get vaccinated. Most say they have had covid. Some I believe, others, not so sure, but I say take the vaccination anyway. The amazing thing about it, all had been heavily vaccinated by their parents for grade school requirements and it is idiocy not to take precautions. In my case, I know of only one person in my little world that has "officially" died of it, but I do believe others died from it, but family say it is the heart, diabetes, or something else....... Anyway hear me now, A Conservative political wonk, aligned towards the Republican party, heartily tells everyone get the vaccine. Kind of like,
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Let me tell you a true story about a family....the parents have 3 adult daughters, all married. One daughter's MIL got covid & died. The that daughter who just happened to be pregnant got covid and was in the hospital for over a month fighting for her & her baby's lives...she made & delivered, but is still fighting the after effects...no taste, no smell. While she was in the hospital her husband got it too, but he didn't require hospital...he fought it off at home. The the original couple, her youngest brother got it & died about 3 weeks ago. She has 2 other unvaccinated brothers still. Then last week they got a call, their 15 y.o. granddaughter was super sick, had been taken to the hospital, put in ICU & on a ventilator...8 hrs. later she was gone. I don't know how much more just this one family can endure...she & her DH are vaccinated. That was 3 deaths so far this year & 2 super sick & fighting. I'm sure this isn't the only family that has had it rough. But it's just sooooo hard. Get the vaccination to protect others if for no other reason...and wear a mask! Heartbreaking. Unfortunately, because this is a communicable disease, it can wipe out a family - either someone brings it into the house, or they all go to the same places together. I have heard many stories about having 2 parents die within days of each other, or multiple adult siblings being hospitalized at the same time. It is hard to quarantine from your own family in your own house.
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Let me tell you a true story about a family....the parents have 3 adult daughters, all married. One daughter's MIL got covid & died. The that daughter who just happened to be pregnant got covid and was in the hospital for over a month fighting for her & her baby's lives...she made & delivered, but is still fighting the after effects...no taste, no smell. While she was in the hospital her husband got it too, but he didn't require hospital...he fought it off at home. The the original couple, her youngest brother got it & died about 3 weeks ago. She has 2 other unvaccinated brothers still. Then last week they got a call, their 15 y.o. granddaughter was super sick, had been taken to the hospital, put in ICU & on a ventilator...8 hrs. later she was gone. I don't know how much more just this one family can endure...she & her DH are vaccinated. That was 3 deaths so far this year & 2 super sick & fighting. I'm sure this isn't the only family that has had it rough. But it's just sooooo hard. Get the vaccination to protect others if for no other reason...and wear a mask! Heartbreaking. Unfortunately, because this is a communicable disease, it can wipe out a family - either someone brings it into the house, or they all go to the same places together. I have heard many stories about having 2 parents die within days of each other, or multiple adult siblings being hospitalized at the same time. It is hard to quarantine from your own family in your own house. When my sister got it, it spread to the whole house. Everyone except my nephew got it. He didn't get it because he had had it already a few months prior. Luckily nobody died, but my dad had to go to the hospital. He needed oxygen but was not put on a vent. The girls and I stayed far away. Only I went over there to do their grocery shopping. I left everything on the porch and then had my niece and nephew come get it after I was back in the car.
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Post by Tiny on Oct 6, 2021 10:46:33 GMT -5
Covid19 reporting seems to have dropped off or rather changed in some way on the various news feeds I read.
Not much talk about it in Real Life either. But I get the feeling that people are just "looking the other way". I'm guessing it's the push to see the pandemic as over (and maybe just "pandemic" exhaustion/burnout.)
FWIW: The World-O-Meter still has the USA death count going up at least 2000 per day.
I'm gonna predict the USA is going to hit 800,000 by 12/31/2021 on the World-O-Meter.
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Post by Tiny on Oct 6, 2021 10:51:43 GMT -5
Since there isn't a new threatening variant:
Covid19 seems to have a 2 month cycle thing going. We've definitely seen it spread/creep across America a couple of times already.
Is this the end of the last "wave" or cycle in America??
do you all think we will have a lull in deaths and infections and then another surge in 2 months?
OR do you think deaths will just hit some level amount and then remain there for some months until the virus runs it course?
OR do you think something else will happen?
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 6, 2021 12:13:05 GMT -5
Covid19 reporting seems to have dropped off or rather changed in some way on the various news feeds I read. Not much talk about it in Real Life either. But I get the feeling that people are just "looking the other way". I'm guessing it's the push to see the pandemic as over (and maybe just "pandemic" exhaustion/burnout.) FWIW: The World-O-Meter still has the USA death count going up at least 2000 per day. I'm gonna predict the USA is going to hit 800,000 by 12/31/2021 on the World-O-Meter. Based on the trajectory we have right now, not sure if we reach 800k. Infections are tailing off, and places we would expect it to flare have higher vacciantion rates/ It will be interesting to see.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 6, 2021 12:16:12 GMT -5
Since there isn't a new threatening variant: Covid19 seems to have a 2 month cycle thing going. We've definitely seen it spread/creep across America a couple of times already. Is this the end of the last "wave" or cycle in America?? do you all think we will have a lull in deaths and infections and then another surge in 2 months? OR do you think deaths will just hit some level amount and then remain there for some months until the virus runs it course? OR do you think something else will happen? We will likely continue to have smaller and shorter spikes, that is what the typical curve looks like with a pandemic. I suspect we have another 6 months of waves, then most people will probably have some sort of immunity from infection/vaccination. It will likely be endemic then, with periodic flares. Once the number of infections are low enough that hospitals aren't overwhelmed, so degree of "normalcy" will return
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Post by Value Buy on Oct 8, 2021 9:45:40 GMT -5
yeah. that is one thing about this pandemic. we all got a crash course in immunity and virus. Evidently this includes the CDC and Fauci because they keep changing the rules, even to this day.......
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 8, 2021 9:49:51 GMT -5
yeah. that is one thing about this pandemic. we all got a crash course in immunity and virus. Evidently this includes the CDC and Fauci because they keep changing the rules, even to this day....... This nonsense too. Medicine should never change how it treats something or its recommendations, even when the initial assumptions are wrong? We change treatments all the time. Unless you want to treat your heart attack like we did in 1980. Or should we treat HIV like we did in 1990. This was a brand new disease that no one had any experience with. Of course mistakes were made in the beginning, and interventions and ideas changed with more knowledge. It is the way medicine works. This nonsense that we should not have adjusted our thinking, and changing your mind is a problem is wrong. Get over it.
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Evidently this includes the CDC and Fauci because they keep changing the rules, even to this day....... This nonsense too. Medicine should never change how it treats something or its recommendations, even when the initial assumptions are wrong? We change treatments all the time. Unless you want to treat your heart attack like we did in 1980. Or should we treat HIV like we did in 1990. This was a brand new disease that no one had any experience with. Of course mistakes were made in the beginning, and interventions and ideas changed with more knowledge. It is the way medicine works. This nonsense that we should not have adjusted our thinking, and changing your mind is a problem is wrong. Get over it. It's valuebuy. Consider the source.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 8, 2021 10:08:43 GMT -5
This nonsense too. Medicine should never change how it treats something or its recommendations, even when the initial assumptions are wrong? We change treatments all the time. Unless you want to treat your heart attack like we did in 1980. Or should we treat HIV like we did in 1990. This was a brand new disease that no one had any experience with. Of course mistakes were made in the beginning, and interventions and ideas changed with more knowledge. It is the way medicine works. This nonsense that we should not have adjusted our thinking, and changing your mind is a problem is wrong. Get over it. It's valuebuy. Consider the source. When he wants to be reasonable, he can be. So he is either doing it to get a rise out of people, or he is not as smart as I believe.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 8, 2021 10:18:05 GMT -5
It's valuebuy. Consider the source. When he wants to be reasonable, he can be. So he is either doing it to get a rise out of people, or he is not as smart as I believe. It's always been the latter.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 13, 2021 14:40:15 GMT -5
yeah. that is one thing about this pandemic. we all got a crash course in immunity and virus. Evidently this includes the CDC and Fauci because they keep changing the rules, even to this day....... of course. the rules SHOULD change as the conditions do. that is what I expect.
Fauci is not Moses. this shit is not carved in stone. and thank God for that.
having said that, they also said that massive testing would stop it dead in it's tracks, and they have been nearly 100% in favor of Masks for nearly 18 months now. they are currently opposed to in class learning. our opposition will probably cost us 1000 lives a day until sometime next year.
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Post by Tiny on Oct 26, 2021 18:48:17 GMT -5
And the World-o-meter is showing 759,849 USA deaths as of tonight.
The world-o-meter rolled past 700K on 9/23/2021... That's 60K deaths 33 days. 1818 deaths per day.
I'm sticking with my prediction we hit 800K deaths by 12/31/2021.
And best of all - I got exposed "close contact" exposed to someone with Covid 19 at an employer after work party. The guy was pasty and glassy eyed (wasn't sure if it was from too much alcohol or if he was sick). He was the event's sponsor and so came over and chatted with the group I was hanging with. So I got in the 15 minutes of breathing his germ laden air... I was in an "outsider" group for the event - so he spent most of his time with "his group" a densely packed group of about 20 people - I'm sure they are all overjoyed to know they were exposed. None of us were wearing masks and it was indoors (although a large open indoor area). I'm betting all the servers bringing drinks are glad they were wearing "industrial" face masks.
I've got a covid test scheduled for tomorrow - and I'm hoping my vaccination and my immune system do their jobs! and I avoid getting covid19.
I'm annoyed and a little angry - here I spent more than 18 months doing my best to avoid Covid19 without living in a bubble and stupid big wig from work comes to a party SICK. I'm guessing he knew he wasn't feeling well... I'm assuming Covid19 that's not asymptomatic comes with some hours of feeling 'funky' before you realize you have a fever and are achy and don't feel well. So, yeah, I'm a little more angry than I would be if the person was asymptomatic... and then a couple days later got sick enough to go "huh, I don't feel well".
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Post by Tiny on Nov 11, 2021 22:03:58 GMT -5
My covid19 test was negative and I didn't have any symptoms. I laid low for a week and seem to be none the worse for wear. Go Vaccine!!!
Here it is November 11th and the World-o-Meter is showing 780,775 deaths in the US as of tonight. It also looks like cases are starting to rise again. I'm guessing the higher vaccination rates will mean the the monthly death numbers will eventually start to drop... More than 40K deaths were attributed to Covid19 for the month of October 2021.
Not really seeing any media outlets with front news reports on Covid19 - anymore. Most people in my area are still consistently masking and social distancing. I have been to the opera and a 2 theater shows - everyone required to provide proof of vaccination - and masks must be worn at all times (when not drinking/eating during intermissions). No drinks allowed into the seating area. I haven't witnessed anyone breaking the mask rules. And I'd say most people were still social distancing when not in their seats - so groups stayed together apart from other groups - not much mingling or crowding together. I'm done with performances until late January. I'm glad I got to attend the shows I attended.
I'm planning to "lay low" and avoid unnecessary social stuff for 9 or 10 days leading up to Thanksgiving day - as I'm getting together with some family members (we've been a "group" since the beginning of the pandemic).
I'm still thinking 800K by the end of the year. Does it seem reasonable that covid19 deaths plus "excessive deaths" might put the total number over a 1million once we get closer to 800K?
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Post by Opti on Nov 12, 2021 9:50:19 GMT -5
Tiny, I think we will hit 800K deaths possibly by the end of November. Cases are ticking up, and it looks like the down part of the curve is shallower than the other waves. Possibly due to in person school.
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Post by anciana on Nov 12, 2021 10:42:35 GMT -5
My covid19 test was negative and I didn't have any symptoms. I laid low for a week and seem to be none the worse for wear. Go Vaccine!!! Here it is November 11th and the World-o-Meter is showing 780,775 deaths in the US as of tonight. It also looks like cases are starting to rise again. I'm guessing the higher vaccination rates will mean the the monthly death numbers will eventually start to drop... More than 40K deaths were attributed to Covid19 for the month of October 2021. Not really seeing any media outlets with front news reports on Covid19 - anymore. Most people in my area are still consistently masking and social distancing. I have been to the opera and a 2 theater shows - everyone required to provide proof of vaccination - and masks must be worn at all times (when not drinking/eating during intermissions). No drinks allowed into the seating area. I haven't witnessed anyone breaking the mask rules. And I'd say most people were still social distancing when not in their seats - so groups stayed together apart from other groups - not much mingling or crowding together. I'm done with performances until late January. I'm glad I got to attend the shows I attended. I'm planning to "lay low" and avoid unnecessary social stuff for 9 or 10 days leading up to Thanksgiving day - as I'm getting together with some family members (we've been a "group" since the beginning of the pandemic). I'm still thinking 800K by the end of the year. Does it seem reasonable that covid19 deaths plus "excessive deaths" might put the total number over a 1million once we get closer to 800K? I am so glad you didn't get sick! That would have been such a letdown after being so careful for so long! I think that this winter will be hard on some of the states and am wondering if we don't end up with 1 mill. by the 2nd anniversary of the start of the lockdowns, early spring of next year
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 15, 2021 1:38:26 GMT -5
my absurd number of 1M dead is starting to look increasingly likely.
at 1k/day, it will take 7 months. at 1500/day, it will take 4 months. there is no way this is over in 4 months.
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Post by Opti on Nov 15, 2021 9:41:26 GMT -5
my absurd number of 1M dead is starting to look increasingly likely.at 1k/day, it will take 7 months. at 1500/day, it will take 4 months. there is no way this is over in 4 months. Agreed, although the question will be when. I don't know when this will finally end. I've been tracking case counts every so often because the Spanish Flu end in the US when around 1/3 of the population had been exposed or known to have a case. ND has the highest case count in the US just over 203K per 1 Million. I don't think they will hit 333K per 1 Million until after next spring.
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