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Post by NastyWoman on Mar 24, 2020 13:17:21 GMT -5
DH is a pharmacist. He goes ballistic every time Trump touts this "miracle cure." I have been doing icu work for 40 years. I am over miracle cures, major advancements, etc. progress is generally incremental. Things have improved. A healthy skeptic is needed on any treatment, especially when so little information is available. Trump is doing the “wish in one hand and shit in the other” trick, and thinking we are not going to notice which one fills up. Malpractice if you ask me, but we shall see Isn't what he does more like practicing medicine without a license? As far as I know that is illegal too...
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Post by pulmonarymd on Mar 24, 2020 13:19:50 GMT -5
I have been doing icu work for 40 years. I am over miracle cures, major advancements, etc. progress is generally incremental. Things have improved. A healthy skeptic is needed on any treatment, especially when so little information is available. Trump is doing the “wish in one hand and shit in the other” trick, and thinking we are not going to notice which one fills up. Malpractice if you ask me, but we shall see Isn't what he does more like practicing medicine without a license? As far as I know that is illegal too... True, he says he knows as much as we do, but since he isn’t licensed, he isn’t a healthcare provider. Loophole is he didn’t give specifics
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 24, 2020 13:31:34 GMT -5
There's a run on unproven medication that other people really need. People with lupus, etc.
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Post by deminmaine on Mar 24, 2020 13:50:23 GMT -5
I am holding up. Have seen happier days.
My Mom passed away in early February, and my wife's Mom is now heading down the same road I fear. That puts a pall on things, to say the least.
I have an endeavor that involves getting out, knocking on doors and meeting people that, obviously, I can't do right now.
I have a medical issue that is going to require elective surgery to pre-emt, and I am supposed to plan for that next month. What happens with that now?
After a long planning period I am supposed to close on sale of our plant June 1st. I have an equipment auction scheduled for May 20. That was good news, but now I am not sure?
Employees are scattering in different directions, but most of them were all set up for what they wanted to do going forward. Now?
On the positive side, my wife, family and I are all well, and I know that this too will pass!
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Post by dondub on Mar 24, 2020 14:06:30 GMT -5
I am holding up. Have seen happier days. My Mom passed away in early February, and my wife's Mom is now heading down the same road I fear. That puts a pall on things, to say the least. I have an endeavor that involves getting out, knocking on doors and meeting people that, obviously, I can't do right now. I have a medical issue that is going to require elective surgery to pre-emt, and I am supposed to plan for that next month. What happens with that now? After a long planning period I am supposed to close on sale of our plant June 1st. I have an equipment auction scheduled for May 20. That was good news, but now I am not sure? Employees are scattering in different directions, but most of them were all set up for what they wanted to do going forward. Now? On the positive side, my wife, family and I are all well, and I know that this too will pass! You’re a Jehovahs Witness?’😎
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 24, 2020 15:16:57 GMT -5
I am stiffening the workplace orders in less than an hour, so I have to run. it is very stressful telling people stuff they don't want to hear. I get why Trump doesn't want to do it.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 24, 2020 16:38:30 GMT -5
Yup, he did say someone would die from taking this drug without medical supervision. Also, people with Lupus and Rheumatoid arthritis are now having a problem filling their prescriptions. We can’t get it now, and outpatient pharmacies around here are keeping for people on it chronically. If I was taking it, I’d be pushed about it jay he is doing to hype the drug Pharmacies keep people on prescription drugs? Don't they need a prescription from a doctor to give that to them?
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Post by wvugurl26 on Mar 24, 2020 16:46:25 GMT -5
I'm supposed to do a video visit tomorrow for this sinus infection that won't quit. I've made 3 attempts to test and it has been a massive failure. My guess is it fails because they are trying to use two unrelated apps plus the web browser on my phone to make this work. It needs to be app based in one app instead of trying to make all these things work together.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Mar 24, 2020 16:52:49 GMT -5
We can’t get it now, and outpatient pharmacies around here are keeping for people on it chronically. If I was taking it, I’d be pushed about it jay he is doing to hype the drug Pharmacies keep people on prescription drugs? Don't they need a prescription from a doctor to give that to them? They know who is on it so they can anticipate what to stock, so they are keeping their supplies for patients who have Ben getting routine refills. We can’t purchase any from them if we wish too
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Post by deminmaine on Mar 24, 2020 16:52:51 GMT -5
I am stiffening the workplace orders in less than an hour, so I have to run. it is very stressful telling people stuff they don't want to hear. I get why Trump doesn't want to do it. Our employees are supposed to maintain 6' distance when possible, and when not are supposed to disinfect afterwards. Anyone with any sort of cough or sniffle is sent home and not allowed back until clear, as is the case with anyone with contact with anyone who has tested positive or is suspected of having C-19. I expect this thing to spread quite a bit this week though hopefully not in our workplace. We are deemed "essential", which I find a bit peculiar, but the state just closed down quite a bit more of the economy. Rightly so, I may add.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 24, 2020 16:54:27 GMT -5
Yup, he did say someone would die from taking this drug without medical supervision. Also, people with Lupus and Rheumatoid arthritis are now having a problem filling their prescriptions. We can’t get it now, and outpatient pharmacies around here are keeping for people on it chronically. If I was taking it, I’d be pushed about it jay he is doing to hype the drug ...and gout. A Quebec medical research team has begun recruiting Quebecers over the age of 40 who test positive for the novel coronavirus to study whether a powerful drug already approved for other uses could help treat COVID-19. Researchers at the Montreal Heart Institute have been working day and night to launch the clinical study, named COLCORONA, to find out if colchicine is effective in treating complications of COVID-19. Colchicine is an orally administered anti-inflammatory drug used to treat gout, Behçet's disease and familial Mediterranean fever. www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-heart-institute-study-colchicine-1.5506930
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Post by pulmonarymd on Mar 24, 2020 16:56:07 GMT -5
We can’t get it now, and outpatient pharmacies around here are keeping for people on it chronically. If I was taking it, I’d be pushed about it jay he is doing to hype the drug ...and gout. A Quebec medical research team has begun recruiting Quebecers over the age of 40 who test positive for the novel coronavirus to study whether a powerful drug already approved for other uses could help treat COVID-19. Researchers at the Montreal Heart Institute have been working day and night to launch the clinical study, named COLCORONA, to find out if colchicine is effective in treating complications of COVID-19. Colchicine is an orally administered anti-inflammatory drug used to treat gout, Behçet's disease and familial Mediterranean fever. www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-heart-institute-study-colchicine-1.5506930Are you kidding me? There have been so many people looking for another use of that drug. Shows how desperate we are?
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 24, 2020 16:59:52 GMT -5
...and gout. A Quebec medical research team has begun recruiting Quebecers over the age of 40 who test positive for the novel coronavirus to study whether a powerful drug already approved for other uses could help treat COVID-19. Researchers at the Montreal Heart Institute have been working day and night to launch the clinical study, named COLCORONA, to find out if colchicine is effective in treating complications of COVID-19. Colchicine is an orally administered anti-inflammatory drug used to treat gout, Behçet's disease and familial Mediterranean fever. www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-heart-institute-study-colchicine-1.5506930Are you kidding me? There have been so many people looking for another use of that drug. Shows how desperate we are? Well, look what happened with thalidomide. They're now using it to treat acute myeloid leukemia. (At a 1000% markup, of course. It's a cheap drug to make.)
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Post by pulmonarymd on Mar 24, 2020 17:06:53 GMT -5
Are you kidding me? There have been so many people looking for another use of that drug. Shows how desperate we are? Well, look what happened with thalidomide. They're now using it to treat acute myeloid leukemia. (At a 1000% markup, of course. It's a cheap drug to make.) True, but we have tried this drug a number of ways, and have yet to find another use. Maybe it will work this time, but I am again skeptical
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Post by mmhmm on Mar 25, 2020 11:03:45 GMT -5
I am holding up. Have seen happier days. My Mom passed away in early February, and my wife's Mom is now heading down the same road I fear. That puts a pall on things, to say the least. I have an endeavor that involves getting out, knocking on doors and meeting people that, obviously, I can't do right now. I have a medical issue that is going to require elective surgery to pre-emt, and I am supposed to plan for that next month. What happens with that now? After a long planning period I am supposed to close on sale of our plant June 1st. I have an equipment auction scheduled for May 20. That was good news, but now I am not sure? Employees are scattering in different directions, but most of them were all set up for what they wanted to do going forward. Now? On the positive side, my wife, family and I are all well, and I know that this too will pass! Really sorry about your wife's mom. I can only imagine how that adds to the stress of this nasty virus! Glad the rest of you are okay.
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Post by deminmaine on Mar 25, 2020 12:23:18 GMT -5
I am holding up. Have seen happier days. My Mom passed away in early February, and my wife's Mom is now heading down the same road I fear. That puts a pall on things, to say the least. I have an endeavor that involves getting out, knocking on doors and meeting people that, obviously, I can't do right now. I have a medical issue that is going to require elective surgery to pre-emt, and I am supposed to plan for that next month. What happens with that now? After a long planning period I am supposed to close on sale of our plant June 1st. I have an equipment auction scheduled for May 20. That was good news, but now I am not sure? Employees are scattering in different directions, but most of them were all set up for what they wanted to do going forward. Now? On the positive side, my wife, family and I are all well, and I know that this too will pass! Really sorry about your wife's mom. I can only imagine how that adds to the stress of this nasty virus! Glad the rest of you are okay. Thank you mmhmm! My DW is holding up well considering, but it is so sad to see. I know you went through this a few years ago, heartbreaking really. I just want this dear lady to be comfortable and not afraid, it is all she can have at this point.
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Post by steff on Mar 25, 2020 12:48:11 GMT -5
I'm at 6 weeks without a cigarette & I want one SO DAMN BAD right now.
Since both my hubby & kiddo are essential employees, there's not much I can do other than worry. But it has been interesting to see what they have done in reacting to it all. They've gone "prepper". Kiddo has brought home giant bags of rice, beans & mason jars. So I've started dry canning those items today. Hubby has joined with his hunting buddy to plant a 2 acre garden on the buddy's property. What I always thought was a big ass garden in our backyard doesn't hold a candle to what they are planting now. They are discussing me canning tomato sauce, salsa, pickles, chow chow & freezing veggies from the garden. Told them I'm in, but they will be sitting here peeling tomatoes for me. I've gone ahead & ordered containers that I can freeze soups & stock in. So now I'm saving up all my bits & ends to make veggie stock & chicken stock for the freezers. We're talking about buying another chest freezer (I already have 1 small one & 3 refrigerators w/freezers). there's talk of raising & splitting a cow (side of beef for each family).
Clearly, we're worried about food. lol It does give me something to focus on since I can't do anything but let them go to work each day. I go to the grocery store once a week now instead of multiple times. I've gotten lucky & managed to get toilet paper/lysol wipes/hand sanitizer from a neighbor who is a manager at Sams/CostCo (don't know which one). My kiddo did some shopping last night instead of coming home for lunch at 2 am. We are now under a curfew, so he has decided it's not worth the hassle to come home if he gets stopped for being out past curfew. Funny to him because growing up he never had a curfew (I never had one, I never gave him one). Both he & hubby have work letters stating that they are essential employees. Hubby leaves for work around 3:30 am & typically is getting home around 6-7 pm. The bakery is running 24/7 now. They've been told that they will NEVER close. They are taking temps of everyone before they can even get thru the door.
So they are working, I'm sitting at home trying not to worry & trying not to harp on hand washing & trying not to let them realize that I'm slightly obsessed with wiping down everything they bring into the house the second they set it down. Haven't seen my mom in almost 2 months. Talk to her every day, multiple times a day, but we used to meet for lunch at least once a week. Haven't seen either of my brothers in about a month. Talk to them every day for one, every few days for the other, but again, we're used to seeing each other at least once a week. The cats & I are terrifyingly close now. I have a small army of animals that follow me around all day every day. Even the dog who I'm not particularly a fan of. Nothing gets done now without 3 cats & a dog's approval/supervision.
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Post by kadee79 on Mar 25, 2020 13:27:44 GMT -5
Steff...I can relate to the no ciggy...I've been without since Jan 10 last year...and I still want one during these stressful times. Hang in there gal, you can do it!
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Post by steff on Mar 25, 2020 13:30:29 GMT -5
Steff...I can relate to the no ciggy...I've been without since Jan 10 last year...and I still want one during these stressful times. Hang in there gal, you can do it! What's kinda funny is I didn't intend to stop smoking. I got the flu & was so sick that I slept thru all the withdrawl symptoms. Once I started to get better, I was still too sick to have a cigarette. Then it became about having gone so long without one, why start back up.
But now it's the stress making me want one, not physical cravings.
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Post by dondub on Mar 25, 2020 13:32:25 GMT -5
Steff...I can relate to the no ciggy...I've been without since Jan 10 last year...and I still want one during these stressful times. Hang in there gal, you can do it! I quit smoking 22 years ago and still have dreams that I’m still smoking. My favorite was doing a 3’ long Winston in the box in one drag and waking up in a sweat. Don’t even have one puff friends.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 25, 2020 13:43:51 GMT -5
Steff...I can relate to the no ciggy...I've been without since Jan 10 last year...and I still want one during these stressful times. Hang in there gal, you can do it! I quit smoking 22 years ago and still have dreams that I’m still smoking. My favorite was doing a 3’ long Winston in the box in one drag and waking up in a sweat. Don’t even have one puff friends. My father said he would have dreams that he was smoking and he was so happy. He has been having them for like 40 years. My dad is very disciplined and adjusts to change pretty easily. Hearing this from him changed my attitude on the addictiveness of cigarettes. If he is jonesing for a puff after 4 decades, I'm not sure how anyone can ever quit.
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Post by busymom on Mar 25, 2020 13:50:40 GMT -5
steff, that is exactly how one of DH's relatives quit smoking. Had a bad case of the flu, and by the time they'd recovered, (and they hadn't had a cigarette for a couple of weeks), they discovered the craving was gone, so they got rid of all of the cigarettes in the house, & haven't had one since. So sorry about your MIL, deminmaine. Well, we'd been thinking that DH's job was reasonably safe, as his industry is considered "essential". But, corporate has decided to have shorter hours. So, DH may have weeks where he doesn't get 40 hours, which will mean smaller paychecks. The only good news is, another nearby location is a bit shorthanded, & might "borrow" him, and that will help give him the extra hours he wants & needs.
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Post by steff on Mar 25, 2020 14:24:24 GMT -5
steff , that is exactly how one of DH's relatives quit smoking. Had a bad case of the flu, and by the time they'd recovered, (and they hadn't had a cigarette for a couple of weeks), they discovered the craving was gone, so they got rid of all of the cigarettes in the house, & haven't had one since. So sorry about your MIL, deminmaine . Well, we'd been thinking that DH's job was reasonably safe, as his industry is considered "essential". But, corporate has decided to have shorter hours. So, DH may have weeks where he doesn't get 40 hours, which will mean smaller paychecks. The only good news is, another nearby location is a bit shorthanded, & might "borrow" him, and that will help give him the extra hours he wants & needs. I had just bought a carton of cigarettes 2 days before I got sick. I literally have almost a whole carton of them in the house. I have an unopened pack in my desk drawer. lol
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Mar 25, 2020 14:46:01 GMT -5
steff - any aunt updates lately?
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Post by deminmaine on Mar 25, 2020 14:55:31 GMT -5
Steff...I can relate to the no ciggy...I've been without since Jan 10 last year...and I still want one during these stressful times. Hang in there gal, you can do it! What's kinda funny is I didn't intend to stop smoking. I got the flu & was so sick that I slept thru all the withdrawl symptoms. Once I started to get better, I was still too sick to have a cigarette. Then it became about having gone so long without one, why start back up.
But now it's the stress making me want one, not physical cravings.
That was how my Mom quit years ago, a hospital stay. Hang in there Steff, you can do it. Quitting cigs was the hardest thing I ever did, but soooooo worth it!
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Post by steff on Mar 25, 2020 15:34:00 GMT -5
steff - any aunt updates lately? We don't know much for sure, but we know she's been bouncing around Portland Washington down to San Jose California. For the last month she's been in Visalia, Ca. On a FB post, she said she planned to start heading "East" at the end of March. But we don't know if East means Texas, Georgia or Virginia. We know that my cousin & his wife in Virginia are the only ones who still communicate with her. But we're not asking him any questions because he would absolutely tell her we were asking & yeah, not going there. She had 1 FB post where she talked about missing Not my uncle John, so we're assuming he must have passed away. But again, we'll never know for sure. We do know that she's been traveling with 4-6 other transient persons on her bus. She's posted pics of everyone and they have all been working on pot farms. She has complained multiple times that she can't get her blood pressure meds renewed because she's a "traveler" & has no permanent address. That's all we've managed to get from her Google check in's & her FB posts.
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Post by sesfw on Mar 25, 2020 15:55:54 GMT -5
Hope they stay save from this virus mess
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Post by mollyc on Mar 25, 2020 16:38:35 GMT -5
Our health region covers the Northern half of BC. If you go with the standard Google figures that BC is approximately 945,000 sq Km and Northern Health is responsible for 600,000 sq Kms of that, it is more like 64%. But a lot of that area is essentially non-human inhabited. Depending on whose estimating, there are 280,000 to 300,000 of us up here, mostly in communities along the N/S and E/W highways.
For the longest time, we only had 2 and then 4 people infected. All of them were either flagged when they flew into Vancouver Intl Airport or contacted authorities right away as they were concerned. All of them were mild enough cases that they were given masks, etc, and instructions and allowed to drive themselves home to self-quarantine. Northern Health was alerted to check on them. None of them were/are a problem. Aside from some "torches and pitchfork" type comments about why no one would tell the public what city/town these people lived in, people were mostly not taking it very seriously.
The announcement about the exposure at BC Dentist Convention started freaking people out. My relative didn't go and he didn't permit any of his staff to go. However, because he had been out of town and knew he would get the stink eye at minimum, he temporarily closed his practice and gave his staff the 14 days to self-isolate with pay.
There has been hoarding behaviour around town since end of Feb-ish so stores have run out of things. Some of it though has been the people who come to town every 3-4 weeks for a big shop and they are now trying to get for double or triple that time. I feel sorry for a lot of them because some stuff just hasn't been available unless you go everywhere.
As of yesterday, we are up to 8 or 9 cases depending on the source. At least one case is currently hospitalized which is why everyone seems to know about it. I don't know that anyone isn't taking it seriously now.
My dad's retirement home is under lockdown. Only essential staff in and out. Tenants are not to leave their apartments. Luckily he has one of the bigger one bedroom suites and he has a good size balcony with a nice view. On Monday, the tenants were still allowed to leave the building so DD dropped off some soup. I am assuming that the staff are now delivering meals to the apts/rooms since they can't use the dining room but I'm glad he has another option. Every space comes with a fridge and my parents bought a new microwave when they moved in. At this time, family and delivery services can arrange to leave groceries, etc, at the front and staff will deliver it so I was still able to get Dad his "Kleenex" yesterday.
I kind of feel better now that the shoe has dropped so to speak. My fear has been that we would have a family gathering and I would unintentionally be responsible for my dad's death. Since he developed asthma, death by suffocation has been his greatest fear so this disease would be the worst ending. Especially since he's decided that he does want to live to his 90th bd in May. In fact, he decided he needed to live until August because then he would be 90, DB2 would be 60 and DB2's oldest, DN2, would be 30. Then DN2 reminded him she was getting married in Sept so he decided he could wait until Oct.
That might seem like an odd comment. At this time last year, I was trying to tease him about making me cry when I told him I was pregnant with DD. His comment then was that it was too bad he wouldn't live long enough to see her in high school. I pointed out that he and Mom were only a few months away from seeing her graduate. He wasn't feeling well that day and he told me that he had lived too long. He said that he knew we would take care of Mom so he wished he would die that week. Surprise Dad. Mom died first.
Dad was finally ready to move Mom's ashes to their niche. He booked it for a Saturday morning in April. This could be cancelled anytime up to that morning. If Dad isn't allowed out for the occasion, I don't know if it will happen. He also might cancel if DSis2 can't travel up here at that time.
There are still a lot of "wait and sees" but enough have been answered that I'm okay right now.
Plus DH finally picked up dog food before the bag was empty and he actually got 2 bags at once. It is weird that I worry about the dog food but they have us outnumbered. Plus DH might not be joking when he talks about being more willing to feed me to the dogs during TEOTWAWKI then eat the dogs.
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Post by kadee79 on Mar 25, 2020 20:06:59 GMT -5
What's kinda funny is I didn't intend to stop smoking. I got the flu & was so sick that I slept thru all the withdrawl symptoms. Once I started to get better, I was still too sick to have a cigarette. Then it became about having gone so long without one, why start back up.
But now it's the stress making me want one, not physical cravings.
That was how my Mom quit years ago, a hospital stay. Hang in there Steff, you can do it. Quitting cigs was the hardest thing I ever did, but soooooo worth it! I spent 6 days in ICU, so I had no choice. They did slap patches on me to ease it for me so when I got out, I continued with the patches and never picked up another cigarette. I had 5 unopened packs here at the house...they sat there for over a year before I finally pitched them in the trash. But when things get stressful, like now....DH is still recouping from back surgery...I want one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Mar 25, 2020 21:38:24 GMT -5
I'd like to see a survey with questions like: Do you have Covid 19? Do you know of someone who does? Are you going out to work? Are you working from home? Are you self-isolating? Are you 14-day isolated? Are you following best practices? How high is your anxiety level? Do you have the help you need? like someone checking on you.
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