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Post by OldCoyote on Feb 9, 2020 22:47:09 GMT -5
OK Don, Where can I see the mark on a wall or rock or, or or, That was put there 100 years ago,, Where sea level is today as compared to "That" mark. Jesus, here we go again with the ubiquitous and absurd "marks on a wall". All you have to do Welts is show me where I can find that mark,, that is it. Should be EZ PEZE for you.
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Post by OldCoyote on Feb 9, 2020 22:48:13 GMT -5
Do you know why you can not find it??
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Post by dondub on Feb 9, 2020 23:17:58 GMT -5
You can dig clams at low tide. Delish! HaHa you can't find it can you!! I have found clams many times. Oysters too. Yummm.
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 9, 2020 23:19:40 GMT -5
Jesus, here we go again with the ubiquitous and absurd "marks on a wall". All you have to do Welts is show me where I can find that mark,, that is it. Should be EZ PEZE for you.
Your remarks mean nothing. You said so yourself. Plus, they're alarmingly ignorant.
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Post by tallguy on Feb 10, 2020 7:42:31 GMT -5
You can dig clams at low tide. Delish! HaHa you can't find it can you!! No one can find any evidence of intelligence in your posting history either. Should we determine that there exists none?
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Post by OldCoyote on Feb 10, 2020 15:19:33 GMT -5
HaHa you can't find it can you!! I have found clams many times. Oysters too. Yummm. You can not find it, can you. Admit it Don.
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Post by dondub on Feb 10, 2020 16:18:54 GMT -5
What is it I'm supposed to be looking for? Your brain? Instead I'm finding clams and oysters galore at low tide. Yum!
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 10, 2020 16:21:39 GMT -5
What is it I'm supposed to be looking for? Your brain? Instead I'm finding clams and oysters galore at low tide. Yum! I think you're supposed to be looking for some marks people put on walls in 1900. Marks they has no reason to put anywhere, since they didn't know what was coming.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 10, 2020 18:42:41 GMT -5
Jesus, here we go again with the ubiquitous and absurd "marks on a wall". All you have to do Welts is show me where I can find that mark,, that is it. Should be EZ PEZE for you.
This silly argument needs to stop. It's beyond old. Science does not need to rely on marks on a wall, OC. There are other ways (scientific ways) of determining sea level changes over time.
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Post by OldCoyote on Feb 10, 2020 21:23:38 GMT -5
All you have to do Welts is show me where I can find that mark,, that is it. Should be EZ PEZE for you.
This silly argument needs to stop. It's beyond old. Science does not need to rely on marks on a wall, OC. There are other ways (scientific ways) of determining sea level changes over time. Since it is so silly where is that place that shows where sea level was 100 years ago, how that compares with today's sea level.
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Post by tallguy on Feb 10, 2020 21:28:14 GMT -5
Come on, guys. If someone is crying out this hard to be banned for good, give him what he wants. It will raise the collective IQ of the board at least a couple points.
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 11, 2020 2:19:51 GMT -5
All you have to do Welts is show me where I can find that mark,, that is it.
Should be EZ PEZE for you.They used tidal gauges to measure sea levels since the middle of the 19th century. This was explained to you previously, in great detail.You didn't bother reading it, but here you are again,yammering on about some fictional and utterly ridiculous marks on a wall. ocean-climate.org/?page_id=3831&lang=enTrump loves the poorly-educated.
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Post by azucena on Feb 11, 2020 5:28:51 GMT -5
Can we all just stop answering OP so this thread can die please? It is clear he is just taunting at this point.
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Post by OldCoyote on Feb 11, 2020 11:13:49 GMT -5
All you have to do Welts is show me where I can find that mark,, that is it.
Should be EZ PEZE for you.They used tidal gauges to measure sea levels since the middle of the 19th century. This was explained to you previously, in great detail.You didn't bother reading it, but here you are again,yammering on about some fictional and utterly ridiculous marks on a wall. ocean-climate.org/?page_id=3831&lang=enTrump loves the poorly-educated. You can not find it can you, admit you have failed.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Feb 11, 2020 11:44:41 GMT -5
This silly argument needs to stop. It's beyond old. Science does not need to rely on marks on a wall, OC. There are other ways (scientific ways) of determining sea level changes over time. Since it is so silly where is that place that shows where sea level was 100 years ago, how that compares with today's sea level. There are satellite photos showing the sea level back 100 years and more. ETA. Actually I remember seeing pictures from 500 years ago taken with a Polaroid camera.
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Post by dondub on Feb 11, 2020 14:37:50 GMT -5
Kiribati, The Maldives, Tuvalu, Marshall Islands.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 11, 2020 18:08:50 GMT -5
Sea level has risen a few inches.
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Post by OldCoyote on Feb 11, 2020 19:42:37 GMT -5
Since it is so silly where is that place that shows where sea level was 100 years ago, how that compares with today's sea level. There are satellite photos showing the sea level back 100 years and more. ETA. Actually I remember seeing pictures from 500 years ago taken with a Polaroid camera. Yes, and Columbus, measured sea level in the West Indies!
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 12, 2020 10:24:22 GMT -5
This silly argument needs to stop. It's beyond old. Science does not need to rely on marks on a wall, OC. There are other ways (scientific ways) of determining sea level changes over time. Since it is so silly where is that place that shows where sea level was 100 years ago, how that compares with today's sea level. Cut it out. Stop taunting and trolling, OC, and do it now. Enough! mmhmm, Administrator
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 12, 2020 13:43:52 GMT -5
Dr Brady said the divergence between the sea-level trends from (computer) models and sea-level trends from the tide gauge records was now so great “it is clear there is a serious problem with the models”.Howard Brady was called a “climate change researcher from Macquarie University”; in fact, Brady is a 70 year-old retiree who has published just seven scientific papers (on Antarctic sediments, not climate), the most recent one in 1983, following which he worked for 17 years in the oil industry. Macquarie University contacted The Australian to set the record straight. In neither of these cases did The Australian publish a retraction or clarification. theconversation.com/event-horizon-the-black-hole-in-the-australians-climate-change-coverage-2642
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 12, 2020 14:03:43 GMT -5
One of Australia’s foremost experts on the relationship between climate change and sea levels, Phil Wilson
Who? An expert? The only Phil Wilson I can find in Australia is a disgraced bishop who covered up clergy child sex abuses. If your Phil Wilson is a "foremost expert", you'd think there would something about him online.
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Post by tallguy on Feb 12, 2020 14:20:43 GMT -5
Looks like another conspiracy-theorist rag.
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 12, 2020 14:24:05 GMT -5
Quote; B ut if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change.
Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but “a colossal scare story.”
Despite fluctuations down as well as up, “the sea is not rising,” he says. “It hasn’t risen in 50 years.” If there is any rise this century it will “not be more than 10cm (four inches), with an uncertainty of plus or minus 10cm”.
And quite apart from examining the hard evidence, he says, the elementary laws of physics (latent heat needed to melt ice) tell us that the apocalypse conjured up by Al Gore and Co “could not possibly come about”.cairnsnews.org/2016/12/30/scary-sea-level-rise-on-sydney-harbour/ I already debunked this guy. Forgot already?
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 12, 2020 14:29:58 GMT -5
the organisation has previously stated that it is "distressed" that Mörner continues to falsely "represent himself in his former capacity." In recent years, before being discovered by Mr Nelson, Mörner had largely been reduced to self-publishing pamphlets on the web and penning overblown diatribes in loony-tunes publications which bear as much relationship to scientific literature as the Spectator does. One of these – titled There Is No Alarming Sea Level Rise! – was published in an online publication called 21st Century Science and Technology. It might sound impressive, but this magazine is in fact a vehicle for the views of Lyndon Larouche. Larouche is the US demagogue who in 1989 received a 15-year sentence for conspiracy, mail fraud and tax code violations www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2011/dec/02/spectator-sea-level-claims
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 12, 2020 14:35:20 GMT -5
In short, Mörner's conspiracy theory and accusation of falsified data is complete nonsense. It's also ironic that Mörner accuses others of falsifying data, since he has previously doctored photographs in his own presentations (i.e. see multiple photos of the Maldives 'marker tree' spliced together here and here). Highlighting the degree to which his arguments are divorced from reality, in testimony to the British House of Lords, Mörner even presented this laughable graph (which was later reproduced by Monckton and the SPPI), simply rotating Figure 1 to produce "the evidence that sea level is not rising" (Figure 5). Nils-Axel Mörner's claims regarding sea level rise are the very definition of denial, involving nothing more than conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated accusations of data falsification wich are easily proven untrue. The mainstream media needs to realize that Mörner is simply not a credible source of information about sea level rise or climate science in general. One individual's unsupported conspiracy theories do not trump empirical observational data. skepticalscience.com/Nils-Axel-Morner-wrong-about-sea-level-rise.html
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Post by pulmonarymd on Feb 12, 2020 18:02:29 GMT -5
I have been a long time lurker, but I have had enough of OCs troll like behavior on this subject.
So I have some serious questions for him. If he can answer them seriously, I would appreciate it. If not, I believe he should get a time out as he adds nothing to this subject.
Do you believe in oxygen, as you can’t see that? How about carbon monoxide, odorless and colorless? Ionizing radiation and x rays, as you can’t see it. The germ theory and antibiotics? In fact, any major advance in medicine in the past 50 years, or do you just pray?
If you use anything in modern medicine, then you are a hypocrite, as the science on climate change is robust.
How about it?
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 12, 2020 18:13:08 GMT -5
I have been a long time lurker, but I have had enough of OCs troll like behavior on this subject. So I have some serious questions for him. If he can answer them seriously, I would appreciate it. If not, I believe he should get a time out as he adds nothing to this subject. Do you believe in oxygen, as you can’t see that? How about carbon monoxide, odorless and colorless? Ionizing radiation and x rays, as you can’t see it. The germ theory and antibiotics? In fact, any major advance in medicine in the past 50 years, or do you just pray? If you use anything in modern medicine, then you are a hypocrite, as the science on climate change is robust. How about it? Don't hold your breath......and welcome to the board!
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Post by dondub on Feb 12, 2020 18:13:27 GMT -5
I have been a long time lurker, but I have had enough of OCs troll like behavior on this subject. So I have some serious questions for him. If he can answer them seriously, I would appreciate it. If not, I believe he should get a time out as he adds nothing to this subject. Do you believe in oxygen, as you can’t see that? How about carbon monoxide, odorless and colorless? Ionizing radiation and x rays, as you can’t see it. The germ theory and antibiotics? In fact, any major advance in medicine in the past 50 years, or do you just pray? If you use anything in modern medicine, then you are a hypocrite, as the science on climate change is robust. How about it? Welcome doc, and good luck with your quest.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Feb 12, 2020 19:08:51 GMT -5
I’m not, but I could not stay silent anymore
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Post by pulmonarymd on Feb 12, 2020 19:13:22 GMT -5
Thank you, o feel like I know you all after all these years
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