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Post by Value Buy on Sept 28, 2018 20:51:42 GMT -5
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 28, 2018 20:54:10 GMT -5
Soooo blame the victim.
Atta boy, VB.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 28, 2018 21:01:04 GMT -5
She could have been a hooker for all I care, but at some point, no means no. She said no and Kavanaugh allegedly keep going.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 28, 2018 21:05:02 GMT -5
So you’re saying, “yeah he probabky did it, but she was asking for it” Real classy
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Post by Opti on Sept 28, 2018 21:12:13 GMT -5
Did the OP post this twice? In a thread and starting one as well?
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 28, 2018 21:12:57 GMT -5
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Post by Opti on Sept 28, 2018 21:15:22 GMT -5
Turns out the answer is yes. I won't repost my reply though.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 28, 2018 21:15:36 GMT -5
Did the OP post this twice? In a thread and starting one as well? Yes
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Post by cktc on Sept 28, 2018 21:20:44 GMT -5
Wow if that isn't damning, I don't know what is. We all know how flatulent all the Barts are.
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Post by busymom on Sept 28, 2018 21:39:09 GMT -5
Seriously? You're trying to justify a guy trying to molest or rape an underage girl?!? Think about the girls your kids might know (I don't know how old you are, if you're a parent or a grandparent), and ask yourself if any 14-year-old "deserves it".
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 28, 2018 21:53:20 GMT -5
Are you serious? THIS is why women don't report sexual assaults. THIS is why I didn't report my own sexual assault. Blame the victim. Drag her through the mud. I don't care if she took on 10 men a night, no still means no. Doesn't give anyone the right to help themselves.
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 28, 2018 22:10:27 GMT -5
I was wonder why her entire social life had been scrubbed of history!! When the facts like that in the Yearbooks,, the Ford cheering crowd here gets really defensive,,
It appeared the everything in his year book was up for publication,,, Annnnnd Liberal interpretation!!! What is good for the Gander is going to be good for the Goose in this case.. Wonder if the FBI is going to investigate and publish her history,, Only fair!! Good reading V.B. Have any thing else?
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Post by steff on Sept 28, 2018 22:20:08 GMT -5
so fucking predictable and just as disgusting as this kind of fucked up view of women has been for the last 50 years. Blame the victim, smear the victim, praise the abuser, excuse the behavior of the abuser. White male privilege on fucking display folks. Difference now is women are DONE taking it. We're fucking DONE allowing men to get away with it.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 28, 2018 22:25:02 GMT -5
so fucking predictable and just as disgusting as this kind of fucked up view of women has been for the last 50 years. Blame the victim, smear the victim, praise the abuser, excuse the behavior of the abuser. White male privilege on fucking display folks. Difference now is women are DONE taking it. We're fucking DONE allowing men to get away with it. You want to piss off women? Way to go. Smear a 15 year old girl to excuse a sexual assault. I really hope you don’t have daughters or granddaughters
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 28, 2018 22:25:15 GMT -5
......and then the unmitigated gall of the Rs asking "Why didn't she/you/they report it?
THIS IS WHY!
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Post by Opti on Sept 28, 2018 22:35:15 GMT -5
so fucking predictable and just as disgusting as this kind of fucked up view of women has been for the last 50 years. Blame the victim, smear the victim, praise the abuser, excuse the behavior of the abuser. White male privilege on fucking display folks. Difference now is women are DONE taking it. We're fucking DONE allowing men to get away with it. As bad as it all is, its hard for me to look at this thread and the original article as anything but a desperate attempt to deny reality. Even if we don't know for certain what Kavanaugh did in that instance, it already appears he's not one of those nice gentlemanly men in the past. People throw up bad arguments when they have nothing good to win with. Really all this displays to me is that they know their position is shit, but they hate losing so much they'll go with anything they think will make a difference.
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 28, 2018 22:38:02 GMT -5
so fucking predictable and just as disgusting as this kind of fucked up view of women has been for the last 50 years. Blame the victim, smear the victim, praise the abuser, excuse the behavior of the abuser. White male privilege on fucking display folks. Difference now is women are DONE taking it. We're fucking DONE allowing men to get away with it. Maybe they should not have posted that in their yearbook,,
Playing victim again I see!!
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Post by whitney on Sept 28, 2018 22:49:42 GMT -5
When Dr Ford is a nominee for the supreme court , I will read her yearbook.
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Post by ednkris on Sept 29, 2018 3:58:43 GMT -5
As tempting as it is to us this yearbook stuff, it shouldn't be done. As I stated before they were kids. The 80's thats what was going on.
This was all a ruse by the dems. She is not a victim but a pawn by the dems. It didn't work the way they hoped. Let the FBI investigate then get him confirmed. Ford will see how they are they will drop her like a bad habit and on to the next obstruction.
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Post by jkapp on Sept 29, 2018 8:27:08 GMT -5
Are you serious? THIS is why women don't report sexual assaults. THIS is why I didn't report my own sexual assault. Blame the victim. Drag her through the mud. I don't care if she took on 10 men a night, no still means no. Doesn't give anyone the right to help themselves. The problem is there is no evidence he is the one who assaulted her...I don't think she's lying about being assaulted, but there's nothing that shows Kavanaugh is the one who did it.
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Post by jkapp on Sept 29, 2018 8:29:05 GMT -5
......and then the unmitigated gall of the Rs asking "Why didn't she/you/they report it? THIS IS WHY!Yeah, its as bad as CONDEMNING SOMEONE WITH ZERO EVIDENCE!!
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Post by tbop77 on Sept 29, 2018 9:00:02 GMT -5
As tempting as it is to us this yearbook stuff, it shouldn't be done. As I stated before they were kids. The 80's thats what was going on. This was all a ruse by the dems. She is not a victim but a pawn by the dems. It didn't work the way they hoped. Let the FBI investigate then get him confirmed. Ford will see how they are they will drop her like a bad habit and on to the next obstruction. LOL, conservatives, who mind you, have control of all three branches of government being duped by the dems. And President Trump, who is the greatest leader of all time being duped. He should have had his party in line. There should have been a vote. Sounds like a bunch of snowflakes to me....blaming it on the dems!
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Post by countrygirl2 on Sept 29, 2018 9:19:47 GMT -5
I try to look at this as what if she were my daughter. Men should too, that makes a difference.
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Post by Great on Sept 29, 2018 11:33:01 GMT -5
above from the article posted in the OP.
I was wondering about this, why the parents, grand parents, other family members or possibly teachers, had not noticed a behavior change, mood swings, common signs that something is stressing a child. Maybe, its a case of 'girls will be girls' being teenagers? Value Buy ... Thanks for posting an interesting article on Dr Ford's high school yearbook history.
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Post by dezii on Sept 29, 2018 13:00:25 GMT -5
You just don't get it Value as neither do the conservative old farts who are on that committee... Even if, and I am just useing the "if" as a possibility...if Dr Ford was no longer a Virgin...was a virgin but into petting as a 15 year old... was a pro sexually....to be attacked sexually is wrong..totally...and the reason woman over all..including conservative woman... no longer will accept it as part of what happens to their gender...and so many males have joined them..There was a million person [ heavy with woman ] march earlier and now this hearing has taken over the country...even in the red state Heart Land...and I believe that many of these girls and girl friends and wives , mothers, grandmothers too ..as they enter the privacy of the voting booth this fall, possible some even wearing those red baseball caps, ...they will change their vote privatey..possible not admitting it to the males in their lives but against the Donald and his political supporters...as they too say.."Never Again" Not all of course...don't believe u feel that way..thus your introducing this thread and posting that link ...but most of us here on this small forum accept that from u...u have shown your colors regarding your feelings for the opposite sex numerouse times by your postings.. This Judge is guilty....with his emotional display withstanding..and really does not have the temperament to be on the SCOTUS ..to important a position to have a flawed individual as a member and he is flawed..also probably a alcoholic too...
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Post by dezii on Sept 29, 2018 13:19:50 GMT -5
Are you serious? THIS is why women don't report sexual assaults. THIS is why I didn't report my own sexual assault. Blame the victim. Drag her through the mud. I don't care if she took on 10 men a night, no still means no. Doesn't give anyone the right to help themselves. The problem is there is no evidence he is the one who assaulted her...I don't think she's lying about being assaulted, but there's nothing that shows Kavanaugh is the one who did it. Yes there is...when asked for a % of certainly how sure she was it was the Judge ..she replied 100%...and said it forcefully and yes he said the same later in the day...because he watched her testimony and then copied her response...very obvious...just another nail in his coffin..ail driven by himself.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Sept 29, 2018 15:23:52 GMT -5
I have no idea but her testimony was very compelling. I hope we hear more from the other guy. Maybe when the FBI gets involved they will be more forthcoming.
The whole situation will leave everyone tainted. Might have been better for them to shove it through so we didn't know any of this stuff about him. We also know he is biased and why they want him in. Just makes it so bad for the democracy. How much longer will we have it?
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Post by whitney on Sept 29, 2018 15:46:00 GMT -5
As to the comment in the OP article concerning Dr Ford's parents and siblings and support or lack of support ... I read her brother Ralph , speaking on behalf of the family of origin ( himself , her other brother , her parents ), said that the family is supportive. Both of the brothers live in the area and are practicing lawyers , and a lower profile is hopefully helpful in avoiding those that might impact their families safety.
I think as the parents , I am not sure it is fair to read a lot into " not being out there ....."
I think it has to be extremely hard to be learning your child as a 15 year old had been the victim of a sexual assault. The emotions have to be hard I think . And there is not a right way or wrong way to cope. There are all sorts of emotions with shame , guilt , rage , regret , agony. I don't think making a judgement or speculation on the parents at a time like this is the best thing to do.
The father and the father of Brett were part of the same exclusive all mens social golf club group. I think could be a struggle as a father to wrap your mind around too. Then a parent looking back wondering why things did not click that something had happened years ago .... the reporting is that " Chrissy " had significant anxiety d/o ptsd sxs , relationship difficulties , academic struggles , concentration difficulties , other things for the 4 years following the assault then the more chronic course of ptsd and comorbid sxs. during her lifetime to date.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Sept 29, 2018 15:52:35 GMT -5
They likely never looked into the why. I don't know, seems like these parents were rather removed from the raising of their kids, I get the feeling they didn't know a lot about what they were doing.
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Post by jkapp on Sept 29, 2018 17:09:48 GMT -5
The problem is there is no evidence he is the one who assaulted her...I don't think she's lying about being assaulted, but there's nothing that shows Kavanaugh is the one who did it. Yes there is...when asked for a % of certainly how sure she was it was the Judge ..she replied 100%...and said it forcefully and yes he said the same later in the day...because he watched her testimony and then copied her response...very obvious...just another nail in his coffin..ail driven by himself. So her 100% is believable but his isn't? So you are just discriminatory towards men?
And how is it people are convicted of crimes they didn't commit when there are eye witnesses that say he/she did do it? Were the witnesses lying?
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