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Post by kadee79 on Sept 5, 2018 20:40:11 GMT -5
Even though these "patriots" are claiming to be protecting the country...are they really?...or are they protecting a certain class of people & a political party? None of them were elected, they shouldn't be making decisions no matter what the consequences may have been if they didn't....maybe we would already be rid of DT if they had stayed out of it?
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Post by steff on Sept 5, 2018 20:40:46 GMT -5
Just a thought, but if I were writing something & didn't want my identity to be obvious, I'd use words or phrases that others were well known to use....just to throw off any investigation. that has been mentioned. That throwing lodestar in could be trying to throw someone off the mark. But there are a lot of reasons being tossed around as to why Pence could be the one.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 5, 2018 20:42:31 GMT -5
I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump AdministrationI work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations. The Times today is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers. We invite you to submit a question about the essay or our vetting process here.President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader. It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall. The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations. Complete opinion article here: I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration It seems the Donald and his press secretary are a bit perturbed with the op/ed in the NY Times...Seems the word treason is being bandied around a bit...suggested individual should resign...guess some can't take constructive criticism... Was thinking if polygraph tests are out …. Maybe trump will start torturing his employees to begin naming names. After all trump said “Don't tell me it doesn't work — torture works,” So maybe trump will use some of ISIS' methods of torture like using the flying carpet method.
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Post by steff on Sept 5, 2018 20:43:19 GMT -5
I also say possibly both Conways, but I don't think Kelly Ann has the balls to actually release it. I saw Nikki Haley as another possibility because he undermines everything she does or says with the UN.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 5, 2018 20:43:33 GMT -5
Just a thought, but if I were writing something & didn't want my identity to be obvious, I'd use words or phrases that others were well known to use....just to throw off any investigation. omg. you are so devious!
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 5, 2018 20:45:00 GMT -5
Even though these "patriots" are claiming to be protecting the country...are they really?...or are they protecting a certain class of people & a political party? None of them were elected, they shouldn't be making decisions no matter what the consequences may have been if they didn't....maybe we would already be rid of DT if they had stayed out of it? they are the kind of "patriots" that the Nazi's are: the kind that thinks that they are the master race, and that everyone else is evil, and that the world will be better off when their kind "purifies" the body politic. we have seen it before. it never ends well.
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Post by Jaguar on Sept 5, 2018 20:45:14 GMT -5
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 5, 2018 20:47:18 GMT -5
Saw a video meme of Melania Trump smiling with the words, 'It Was Me.'
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 5, 2018 20:48:00 GMT -5
It seems the Donald and his press secretary are a bit perturbed with the op/ed in the NY Times...Seems the word treason is being bandied around a bit...suggested individual should resign...guess some can't take constructive criticism... Was thinking if polygraph tests are out …. Maybe trump will start torturing his employees to begin naming names. After all trump said “Don't tell me it doesn't work — torture works,” So maybe trump will use some of ISIS' methods of torture like using the flying carpet method. if so, he will rapidly discover what has been known since this was studied by the British through about 1960: that the only thing torture is good for (and it is great for this) is eliciting false testimony.
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Post by Jaguar on Sept 5, 2018 20:50:26 GMT -5
If 45 physically hurts anyone can he be charged ? Like what protects the people who work in the White House with this crazed paranoid one.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 5, 2018 20:56:38 GMT -5
If 45 physically hurts anyone can he be charged ? Like what protects the people who work in the White House with this crazed paranoid one. if you can't charge a sitting president, then that means that any sitting president who is a menace to society is protected. this is why we need to vet officeholders well. OR we need to change that rule. the odds of that happening drop with Kavanaugh in the SCOTUS.
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Post by Jaguar on Sept 5, 2018 21:00:48 GMT -5
Then, GOP get off your fucking asses and serve the American Constitution . Start the impeachment now.
Honestly they would hate it if I was in there, cause I would start the proceedings
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 5, 2018 21:24:48 GMT -5
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 5, 2018 21:45:31 GMT -5
I also say possibly both Conways, but I don't think Kelly Ann has the balls to actually release it. I saw Nikki Haley as another possibility because he undermines everything she does or says with the UN. I don’t think Miss “Alternative Facts” has the ethics. It isn’t her.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 5, 2018 22:01:39 GMT -5
On CNN I keep hearing 'Soft Coup' or 'Administrative Coup'.
trump probably on the phone with Kim Jong-un asking him how he avoids coups.
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Post by jelloshots4all on Sept 5, 2018 22:08:12 GMT -5
We look stupid to the world because our 45 is a flagrant liar, tweeter, adulter, etc. Other countries are watching that all we can talk about and HE can focus on is crap HE has created. There are so many distractions with this POS. I hope there are some smart people in Washington keeping our country, AMERICA safe! And even more babysitters keeping 45 in a daycare room so he doesn't destroy the USA!!
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 5, 2018 22:27:51 GMT -5
On CNN I keep hearing 'Soft Coup' or 'Administrative Coup'. trump probably on the phone with Kim Jong-un asking him how he avoids coups. Kim Jong shoots anyone he wants. Hopefully the “adults” don’t let the deranged nutcase near a firearm
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 22:32:14 GMT -5
But Hillary......
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Post by countrygirl2 on Sept 5, 2018 23:05:06 GMT -5
Hubs thinks it Dan Coates. It has to be someone with access and time to do it.
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Post by tallguy on Sept 5, 2018 23:08:54 GMT -5
Why am I not seeing this as likely...?
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Post by dezii on Sept 5, 2018 23:32:08 GMT -5
Even though these "patriots" are claiming to be protecting the country...are they really?...or are they protecting a certain class of people & a political party? None of them were elected, they shouldn't be making decisions no matter what the consequences may have been if they didn't....maybe we would already be rid of DT if they had stayed out of it? they are the kind of "patriots" that the Nazi's are: the kind that thinks that they are the master race, and that everyone else is evil, and that the world will be better off when their kind "purifies" the body politic. we have seen it before. it never ends well.
Your suggesting the whistle blower is equivalent to Nazi's...?
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Post by dezii on Sept 5, 2018 23:33:45 GMT -5
We look stupid to the world because our 45 is a flagrant liar, tweeter, adulter, etc. Other countries are watching that all we can talk about and HE can focus on is crap HE has created. There are so many distractions with this POS. I hope there are some smart people in Washington keeping our country, AMERICA safe! And even more babysitters keeping 45 in a daycare room so he doesn't destroy the USA!!
………….well said
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Post by dezii on Sept 5, 2018 23:37:19 GMT -5
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Post by steff on Sept 6, 2018 0:16:24 GMT -5
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Post by dezii on Sept 6, 2018 0:37:46 GMT -5
It seems the Donald and his press secretary are a bit perturbed with the op/ed in the NY Times...Seems the word treason is being bandied around a bit...suggested individual should resign...guess some can't take constructive criticism... Was thinking if polygraph tests are out …. Maybe trump will start torturing his employees to begin naming names. After all trump said “Don't tell me it doesn't work — torture works,” So maybe trump will use some of ISIS' methods of torture like using the flying carpet method. According to the following article it seems our Donald is really pissed off and is wanting the one responsible found. Anyone know if the SS can be ordered to do some physical whatever on the one responsible if Donny asks them too? Just wondering... ======================== www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/hunt-betrayer-volcanic-trump-lashes-out-n906941====================== Actually to me it's a bit of payback for all the attacks the man has done against just about every one plus the nick names … Also the birther accusations...even the Central Park accusations...might as well throw in the discrimination of those of color his father and he were charged with back in the day on their NYC apartments... As long as we are at it, there is the 13 year old prostitute, the rape of , three times, plus the rape of the ex wife...then we got his remarks about equating not catching a veneral disease to the dangers our troops faced in the jungles of Nam...plus the draft dodging..bone spurs... Did I cover everything? Oh wait...there is the BS of his calling all stories not favorable to him fake news...the dissing of all those who quit him and those still in power..Sessions? Whew, though payback is nice..I wonder if St Peter has stopped writing the sins down...figure he has enough damage already...
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 6, 2018 1:11:28 GMT -5
they are the kind of "patriots" that the Nazi's are: the kind that thinks that they are the master race, and that everyone else is evil, and that the world will be better off when their kind "purifies" the body politic. we have seen it before. it never ends well.
Your suggesting the whistle blower is equivalent to Nazi's...? no, i was painting with a much broader brush, dez. i think his ENABLERS are making a huge mistake.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Sept 6, 2018 4:07:59 GMT -5
so when do we start chatting about who might have written it? from what I keep seeing, Pence & Sessions are coming out as possible suspects based on certain wording in the op-ed. "lodestar" is a word that Pence likes a lot & uses often. Shortly before the op-ed was released, Pence gave a strong statement of support for Sessions.
Mattis in retaliation for the "fake news" rebuttal of Woodward's quotes yesterday?
Kelly to be the "American Hero" we all hoped he was many many moons ago?
Wouldn't it be funny if it were Pence? Trump can't fire Pence. There's no way that Pence would resign. Pence sort of makes sense. He’ll come in and “save America” possibly guaranteeing a win in 2020 as America’s savior.
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Post by dezii on Sept 6, 2018 4:42:08 GMT -5
I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump AdministrationI work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations. The Times today is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers. We invite you to submit a question about the essay or our vetting process here.President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader. It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall. The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations. Complete opinion article here: I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration Not all think that op/ed at the Times is a good thing...The following article by a retired former foreign relationships folk disses the writer...though in his article he lists many of the Donalds mis deeds accurately but then comes to, in my humble opinion, a wrong conclusion of how to take the op/ed article and it's author. Since none of the country's secrets were disclosed, just the authors impressions of our current leader and the reason he /she/it feels this way...again , I don't agree with it. ===================================== "I encountered many approaches to faithfully executing the law during my more than two decades in government. I saw officials seek to bend the rules to achieve their desired outcomes, and I saw officials demonstrate reverent respect for the law as they performed their elected and appointed functions. Never in my career have I witnessed anything on the magnitude of the tale told Wednesday by an anonymous senior administration official in a New York Times op-ed. I imagine I am far from alone" ===================================== www.yahoo.com/news/anonymous-white-house-writer-isn-035435009.html
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Post by dezii on Sept 6, 2018 4:56:05 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be funny if it were Pence? Trump can't fire Pence. There's no way that Pence would resign. Pence sort of makes sense. He’ll come in and “save America” possibly guaranteeing a win in 2020 as America’s savior. I believe the individual will be identified soon...whether they admit to it is another thing...unless there is actual proof, just conjecture by Trump loyalist. Then it will be interesting to watch everything unfold...how the Administration handles everything.. Personally I don't believe we will see much initiatives coming from this administration now right up to 2020...believe they have shot their load.. NAFTA /Canada...possible even Mexico will not advance...remember Congress has to approve the new treaty with Mexico...China and we will still be at odds and the North Koreans will still be armed with nucs with no hint of doing away with them. Wall still not being built...many executive decisions but over all the Donald will be spending his time defending himself against any and all things..especially if Dems do take the House..Possible some more scandles...possible marriage separation of the two main parties ...with both sides asking for privacy as they work things out...Just suggesting.
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Post by tbop77 on Sept 6, 2018 6:22:38 GMT -5
Or: I didn't realize how far the DEEP STATE would go to get rid of the best President the US has ever had to prevent him from MAGA. Fox news is still covering border security, President Trump might shut the government down if he doesn't get $ this go round for the wall.
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