More proof the fix was in for Hillary to win the primary

[Value Buy]

It has been confirmed the Clinton campaign and the DNC hired a firm in April 2016 to dig up dirt on Trump and the Russian collusion.
Please note this was done in the spring before the fall conventions.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/ar-AAu0xVg

and on top of this, most of the data was compiled from the same person in Britain, that has been basically debunked.
I think there has to be a total shakeup in the DNC power structure. Any segment of the Clinton team has to be removed.

[Opti]

Your title and your OP seem to have nothing in common. Winning the Democratic primary has nothing to do with Trump who ran as a Republican.

[Value Buy]

Oct 24, 2017 18:34:50 GMT -5 Opti said:

Your title and your OP seem to have nothing in common. Winning the Democratic primary has nothing to do with Trump who ran as a Republican.

It has to do with the fix in for Hillary over Bernie. DNC and Clinton campaign were directly working together.

[Value Buy]

I understand now.
As long it was Americans colluding to rig an election it;s okay especially if it involves Democrats.

[Pants]

She lost, get over it.

[swamp]

I dint think it was a big secret the establishment favored the dem over the socialist

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Confirmed.

www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-clinton-campaign-russia-dossier-20171024-story.html


Sara Carter on Lou Dobbs..Gag
to be lifted on mystery witness tomorrow--
(if you don't know about the witness- you really need to catch up) And now the WaPo on the dossier--the story they can no longer bottle up... 

www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html

Marc Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington, D.C., firm, to conduct the research.

Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community.

Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the firm in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Prior to that agreement, Fusion GPS' research into Trump was funded by a still unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

The Clinton campaign and the DNC through the law firm continued to fund Fusion GPS' research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.

Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the firm in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Prior to that agreement, Fusion GPS' research into Trump was funded by a still unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

The Clinton campaign and the DNC through the law firm continued to fund Fusion GPS' research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.

Fusion GPS gave Steele's reports and other research documents to Elias, the people familiar with the matter said. It is unclear how or how much of that information was shared with the campaign and DNC, and who in those organizations was aware of the roles of Fusion GPS and Steele. One person close to the matter said the campaign and the DNC weren't informed of Fusion GPS' role by the law firm.

The dossier has become a lightning rod amid the intensifying investigations into the Trump campaign's possible connections to Russia. Some congressional Republican leaders have spent months trying to discredit Fusion GPS and Steele, and tried to determine the identity of the Democrat or organization that paid for it.

Trump tweeted as recently as Saturday that the Justice Department and FBI should "immediately release who paid for it."

And just in case you're part of the dwindling numbers of people willing to defend the Democrats on this GIANT scandal and you don't yet realize just exactly how big it is--  This is Big F'ing Deal territory...

...After the election, the FBI agreed to pay Steele to continue gathering intelligence about Trump and Russia, but the bureau pulled out of the arrangement after Steele was publicly identified in news reports...

[Tennesseer]

Not concerned about it.  

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

[Opti]

VB started a thread on the first URL earlier. One thread is enough.

[chiver78]

got it, merging threads now. thanks!

-chiver mod

[Opti]

Oct 24, 2017 19:37:20 GMT -5 swamp said:

I dint think it was a big secret the establishment favored the dem over the socialist

Exactly. The same thing happened on the Republican side except in that case the non party candidate, Trump, won the primary.

Shouldn't this thread be about the dossier?

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Oct 24, 2017 19:57:35 GMT -5 Opti said:

Oct 24, 2017 19:37:20 GMT -5 swamp said:

I dint think it was a big secret the establishment favored the dem over the socialist

Exactly. The same thing happened on the Republican side except in that case the non party candidate, Trump, won the primary.

Shouldn't this thread be about the dossier?

Which candidate did the RNC improperly collude with? (if they actually did do it, then they  are wrong to have done so as well... I just don't recall any candidate that the RNC colluded with)

[thyme4change]

I think we have all accepted that the Democratic Party chose Hillary, and they got a pretty big ads punishment. Maybe next time, they will let the voters choose.

[Value Buy]

Oct 24, 2017 19:54:28 GMT -5 Opti said:

VB started a thread on the first URL earlier. One thread is enough.

wow, gets to you doesn't it....now watch my thread from Tucker Carlson on the real Russian collusion. Looks like a lot of people were involved and all were Democrats, and also looks like a few of them in the Podesta camp probably should have filed paperwork they were working with agents of Russia with our government.
Also ex[plains a little bit on how and why Clinton signed off on the Uranium one deal.

[happyhoix]

Oct 25, 2017 6:07:08 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Oct 24, 2017 19:54:28 GMT -5 Opti said:

VB started a thread on the first URL earlier. One thread is enough.

wow, gets to you doesn't it....now watch my thread from Tucker Carlson on the real Russian collusion. Looks like a lot of people were involved and all were Democrats, and also looks like a few of them in the Podesta camp probably should have filed paperwork they were working with agents of Russia with our government.
Also ex[plains a little bit on how and why Clinton signed off on the Uranium one deal.

 

I realize it's been a long hard struggle for you die-hard Trump supporters since his chaotic and corrupt administration started bumbling it's way along, but seriously, this is feverishly trying to beat a molehill into a mountain.

Or are you seriously trying to claim that the dems paying for research on an opposing candidate (something that is SOP for political campaigns) comes anywhere near Don Jr meeting with Russians to try to get 'dirt' on Clinton?

As for the UraniumOne deal - that's a dead horse, as I explained in your thread about it. Please stop beating it.

I know it must be so exciting to find a nugget of shit you can fling at Clinton, but she's someplace enjoying her grandkids, and Trump's standing knee deep in shit while busy making more of it, so excuse me if I fail to find your 'collusion' story particularly truthful or relevant.

[movingforward]

Hillary is over, now can we move on already...oh wait, if we moved on then we would have to talk about the asshat that actually DID win the presidency.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

The subject of NFL players kneeling during the anthem is losing it's appeal.  Time to bring up Hillary to keep people from noticing the patients are running the asylum.

Our government is muzzling scientists because they don't toe the government approved agenda and I just read about how they want the justice system to label anyone who protests the transatlantic pipeline a domestic terrorist. Here they are celebrating being able to pollute the water more thanks to EPA roll backs on water conservation.

Not to mention their continued bungled attempts to "improve" health care and the looming tax bill that nobody can explain how exactly it will work.

There is some serious shit going on people, shit that is going to effect us and our children and our children's children.  All this is going on while you, the 24/7 news media and the internet are running around chasing whatever shiny Trump and his propaganda machine throw at you.

 Hillary lost, GET OVER IT.

[Phoenix84]

Oct 24, 2017 19:41:40 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Not concerned about it.  

Seems like a big deal to me. The Christopher Steele dossier was major fuel for the calls for investigation into the Trump campaign and Russia. We now know that the dossier was funded by political opponents (I.e the Clinton Camaign, the DNC, and republicans primary opponents)

It casts a shadow over the investigation that it is politically motivated.

[Tennesseer]

Oct 25, 2017 8:46:55 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

Oct 24, 2017 19:41:40 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Not concerned about it.  

Seems like a big deal to me. The Christopher Steele dossier was major fuel for the calls for investigation into the Trump campaign and Russia. We now know that the dossier was funded by political opponents (I.e the Clinton Camaign, the DNC, and republicans primary opponents)

It casts a shadow over the investigation that it is politically motivated.

Of course it would concern you. Takes attention away from the real trump corruption in Washington.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

If they want to look into the DNC and RNC's practices I have no problem with that.   Knock yourselves out there should be more transparency when it comes to picking candidates.

That being said Hillary still freaking lost.   So why the hell does it even matter?

We should be focused on what the adminstration that won is doing since that has real impact on our lives.  I am so over this Russian shit concerning both sides I could vomit.   It's all carefully designed propaganda to keep us distracted.  While we're all busy salivating over which side is going to be the next Watergate they are busy rolling back regulations, muzzling scientists, messing with health care and twiddling taxes.

 

[movingforward]

I am so over this Russian shit concerning both sides I could vomit. It's all carefully designed propaganda to keep us distracted. While we're all busy salivating over which side is going to be the next Watergate they are busy rolling back regulations, muzzling scientists, messing with health care and twiddling taxes.

x100 - I say let it go on both sides. I am over this shit.

[OldCoyote]

"She Lost, Get over it"

No, you don't understand, We need to drive that stake thru her black little heart to keep her from coming back to life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[swamp]

Oct 25, 2017 9:26:51 GMT -5 movingforward said:

I am so over this Russian shit concerning both sides I could vomit. It's all carefully designed propaganda to keep us distracted. While we're all busy salivating over which side is going to be the next Watergate they are busy rolling back regulations, muzzling scientists, messing with health care and twiddling taxes.

x100 - I say let it go on both sides. I am over this shit.

I care because of Trump has business ties to Russia that he has been lying about I think his ties are really important to know about. He can't seem to say anything bad about Russia well he feels free to go off in a tweet storm about every other national leader.

[Value Buy]

Oct 25, 2017 8:26:59 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

The subject of NFL players kneeling during the anthem is losing it's appeal.  Time to bring up Hillary to keep people from noticing the patients are running the asylum.

Our government is muzzling scientists because they don't toe the government approved agenda and I just read about how they want the justice system to label anyone who protests the transatlantic pipeline a domestic terrorist. Here they are celebrating being able to pollute the water more thanks to EPA roll backs on water conservation.

Not to mention their continued bungled attempts to "improve" health care and the looming tax bill that nobody can explain how exactly it will work.

There is some serious shit going on people, shit that is going to effect us and our children and our children's children.  All this is going on while you, the 24/7 news media and the internet are running around chasing whatever shiny Trump and his propaganda machine throw at you.

 Hillary lost, GET OVER IT.

The democrats were planning to use info to force him to resign or get Republicans on board for Impeachment.
Putting Podesta or Hillary Clinton in jail for crimes are fair game. It is called collusion with a foreign entity.

[Value Buy]

Oct 25, 2017 9:53:41 GMT -5 swamp said:

Oct 25, 2017 9:26:51 GMT -5 movingforward said:

x100 - I say let it go on both sides. I am over this shit.

I care because of Trump has business ties to Russia that he has been lying about I think his ties are really important to know about. He can't seem to say anything bad about Russia well he feels free to go off in a tweet storm about every other national leader.

And I care about Podesta and Clinton because they colluded for financial reasons with a foreign entity.

[Tennesseer]

Oct 25, 2017 10:35:55 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Oct 25, 2017 9:53:41 GMT -5 swamp said:

I care because of Trump has business ties to Russia that he has been lying about I think his ties are really important to know about. He can't seem to say anything bad about Russia well he feels free to go off in a tweet storm about every other national leader.

And I care about Podesta and Clinton because they colluded for financial reasons with a foreign entity.

Podesta and Clinton can share a jail cell with Don Jr. (and more) for colluding with a foreign entity. Let's see who Trump pardons.

[Value Buy]

Oct 25, 2017 10:50:20 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Oct 25, 2017 10:35:55 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

And I care about Podesta and Clinton because they colluded for financial reasons with a foreign entity.

Podesta and Clinton can share a jail cell with Don Jr. (and more) for colluding with a foreign entity. Let's see who Trump pardons.

He is crazy enough to pardon Hillary.
After all, he appreciates the color of money, as much as Hillary does

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Even if Hillary and/or Trump end up in jail the fact remains that Pence, Congress and all the little cronies running the various state departments are still in place.   They are being busy little worker bees while we are all salivating over which figurehead gets put in prison.

I only have so much time and energy to give.  I choose for my focus to be on those that will remain regardless of this massive conspiracy because they are the ones that directly impact my future.  Which figurehead is standing in front of them I could give a crap less about at the moment.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

We now know that the Trump - Russia collusion story was a concoction based on a phony dossier dressed up as "intelligence", but which was really just a fabricated pile of shit paid for by the Clinton Campaign, the DNC, and even the FBI under former Director Comey, to a Russian outfit who hired a former British MI6 guy to make shit up about Trump. Combined with the Uranium One scandal- there's going to be enough to #LockHerUp after all.

The odds of Hillary Clinton actually being charged and found guilty of a criminal offense just went up from 0% to 50/50 odds.